[AFMUG] Limited run of AW3464 900mhz dual-slant omnis actually available

2018-06-13 Thread Colin Stanners
For those who can fit some in their network/business plan, a limited run of Alpha AW3464 900mhz dual-slant omnis is now actually available. Contact Carey at Crossover Distribution.

Re: [AFMUG] CnMaestro keeps dropping AP's

2018-06-13 Thread Josh Luthman
There was a bug on older versions. I think early 3.x? I don't believe it exists in 3.5.1 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Sam Lambie wrote: > Yep, > the only way to get them back online in cnM is

Re: [AFMUG] CnMaestro keeps dropping AP's

2018-06-13 Thread Steve Jones
Are they natted? How many devices are behind that nat if so On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 12:32 PM Sam Lambie wrote: > Yep, > the only way to get them back online in cnM is to reboot the AP. Bummer. > It shows that it is connected on the UI. Must be a bug. > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:53 AM Sean

[AFMUG] Recent licensed link pricing?

2018-06-13 Thread Peter Kranz
Anyone priced out 18Ghz capable hardware recently? Need to do a new 3 link build, thinking of using Dragonwave-X Harmony Enhanced MC radios. http://www.dragonwavex.com/products/packet-microwave/harmony-enhancedmc Curious if any new players in the market are more cost effective than Dragonwave

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik / Mimosa Ethernet Errors

2018-06-13 Thread Steve Jones
i hate that chuck is open about product flaws and offers troubleshooting ideas, he pawns all the guild off on us for never having the time On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 6:55 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > Surge suppressors can certainly cause this. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 9, 2018, at 2:58 PM,

[AFMUG] test

2018-06-13 Thread Colin Stanners
test

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik / Mimosa Ethernet Errors

2018-06-12 Thread Jason McKemie
It was definitely the surge suppressor. I took the one out of in-line at the bottom and errors went away. I had tried to put one up top, but couldn't get the A5 to even power up with it inline, so there isn't one present up there anyhow. Now, how do I determine which version I'm getting? I have

Re: [AFMUG] CnMaestro keeps dropping AP's

2018-06-11 Thread Sam Lambie
Yep, the only way to get them back online in cnM is to reboot the AP. Bummer. It shows that it is connected on the UI. Must be a bug. On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:53 AM Sean Heskett wrote: > have you tried clicking on the 3 dots next to the AP in the monitor list > and then select refresh?

Re: [AFMUG] CnMaestro keeps dropping AP's

2018-06-11 Thread Sean Heskett
have you tried clicking on the 3 dots next to the AP in the monitor list and then select refresh? (hopefully the image comes thru the list) On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:08 AM, Sam Lambie wrote: > Even thought they are still up and running fine, it shows 2 of the AP's ad > down but the SM's

[AFMUG] Cambium Power Injector C000065L002A

2018-06-11 Thread Sam Lambie
Is this puppy 802.3.at compliant? I want to use it to power an axis camera. I can't seem to find specs anywhere on the web as to what it is. Scared of the magic smoke -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com

[AFMUG] CnMaestro keeps dropping AP's

2018-06-11 Thread Sam Lambie
Even thought they are still up and running fine, it shows 2 of the AP's ad down but the SM's are still connected. Any suggestions on how to get the AP's to show up without rebooting? I host cnmaestro locally. -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

2018-06-11 Thread Cameron Crum
They'd all be on trial for their treatment of women by now. That is a bygone era. On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 10:18 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > isnt that a broads only oceans flick? tsk tsk tsk > I miss the real rat pack, I wish we had a rat pack today > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 12:46 PM wrote: > >>

Re: [AFMUG] this list

2018-06-11 Thread Colin Stanners
Chuck, you can use hosts file entries on your PC so it will go to a different IP address even if the domain hasn't transferred. On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 12:01 PM, wrote: > Not sure. Since the domain has not transferred yet I cannot even get into > the back end of the new list server. Not sure

Re: [AFMUG] this list

2018-06-10 Thread Steve Jones
is there a red button perhaps that says dont push? push that button On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 5:36 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Knobs, switches , buttons and levers!! > > Jaime Solorza > > On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 11:01 AM wrote: > >> Not sure. Since the domain has not transferred yet I cannot even get

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

2018-06-10 Thread Steve Jones
isnt that a broads only oceans flick? tsk tsk tsk I miss the real rat pack, I wish we had a rat pack today On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 12:46 PM wrote: > MoviePass makes you send a photo of your ticket now. > > *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller > *Sent:* Saturday, June 9, 2018 9:20 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com >

Re: [AFMUG] RackInjector and SyncPipe

2018-06-10 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
There's this really nice "GPS status" page on the rackinjector which will show you when the GPS receiver drops a pulse, or detects a misaligned pulse.As a general rule, only the 'correct' counter should be incrementing - bearing in mind that GPS timing is not perfect, and you will get an

[AFMUG] RackInjector and SyncPipe

2018-06-10 Thread Matt
I have a rackinjector with Cambium Sync. My PMP450i devices seem to keep losing sync. I updated the firmware on the RackInjector to the 2018-05-07 latest. That seemed to help some. I still seem to lose sync on all connected devices every 8 hours or less very briefly. I moved syncpipe for cleaner

Re: [AFMUG] Test 6/9 @ 11:00 Pacific

2018-06-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
Hum. A disturbance in the flux capacitor? Jaime Solorza On Sun, Jun 10, 2018, 8:36 AM Bill Prince wrote: > Received 3 minutes before you sent it. > > > bp > > > On 6/9/2018 10:57 AM, TJ Trout wrote: > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

2018-06-10 Thread chuck
MoviePass makes you send a photo of your ticket now. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2018 9:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review Saw Hotel Artemis last night I felt it needed another hour of storyline. Have not made it to Ocean's 8 yet... my

Re: [AFMUG] Test 6/9 @ 11:00 Pacific

2018-06-10 Thread Bill Prince
Received 3 minutes before you sent it. bp On 6/9/2018 10:57 AM, TJ Trout wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

2018-06-09 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Saw Hotel Artemis last night I felt it needed another hour of storyline. Have not made it to Ocean's 8 yet... my MoviePass is getting a good workout though Sent from my smartphone - Reply message - From: "Jaime Solorza" To: "Animal Farm" Subject: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review Date:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

2018-06-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
We watched Death Wish with Bruce Willis at homeit's okay Jaime Solorza On Sat, Jun 9, 2018, 7:02 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > Oceans 8 > > Meh > > OK, Movie Pass made me not regret paying for it. > Just was not funny like the other Ocean movies. >

[AFMUG] OT Movie Review

2018-06-09 Thread Chuck McCown
Oceans 8 Meh OK, Movie Pass made me not regret paying for it. Just was not funny like the other Ocean movies.

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik / Mimosa Ethernet Errors

2018-06-09 Thread Chuck McCown
Surge suppressors can certainly cause this. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 9, 2018, at 2:58 PM, George Skorup wrote: > > What suppressors? > >> On 6/9/2018 3:23 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: >> I have a A5C that is giving me grief. I'm getting hundreds of Rx FCS errors >> on the Mikrotik when I'm

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik / Mimosa Ethernet Errors

2018-06-09 Thread George Skorup
The easiest way to tell is obviously to take the SS out and see if the errors stop. And as Chuck has said in the past, an SS can get wounded. Definitely seen that. In fact, just the other day I had two 450 sectors with link losses, falling back to 10Mbps, etc. and quite a lot of errors. Took

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik / Mimosa Ethernet Errors

2018-06-09 Thread Jason McKemie
They are Chuck's suppressors and I'm pretty sure they are an older revision as well, so that could be a contributing factor. On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 4:14 PM, George Skorup wrote: > Guess I should correct my grammar and say which suppressor(s)? > > And follow that up with the assumption that

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik / Mimosa Ethernet Errors

2018-06-09 Thread George Skorup
Guess I should correct my grammar and say which suppressor(s)? And follow that up with the assumption that you're using Chuck's suppressors? The only one that produced no errors for me is the CAT6-APC which is just gas tubes, no diodes. He asked me to test one more thing with the Rev G

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik / Mimosa Ethernet Errors

2018-06-09 Thread George Skorup
What suppressors? On 6/9/2018 3:23 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: I have a A5C that is giving me grief.  I'm getting hundreds of Rx FCS errors on the Mikrotik when I'm running gigabit, if I force it to 100 fdx, the Rx FCS errors stop, but Rx Code errors start incrementing instead.  I've always

Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow?

2018-06-09 Thread Brough Turner
Thanks all, this is a very useful discussion. And I'm particularly encouraged by Paul Stewart's comments! As Eric Kuhnke remarked, by flat I meant all routers in OSPF area 0. We do use a single layer two network with multiple vlans within each apartment building or condo complex, but it's all

[AFMUG] Mikrotik / Mimosa Ethernet Errors

2018-06-09 Thread Jason McKemie
I have a A5C that is giving me grief. I'm getting hundreds of Rx FCS errors on the Mikrotik when I'm running gigabit, if I force it to 100 fdx, the Rx FCS errors stop, but Rx Code errors start incrementing instead. I've always gotten some amount of Rx FCS errors from Mimosa A5/A5C units, but not

Re: [AFMUG] Test 6/9 @ 11:00 Pacific

2018-06-09 Thread chuck
I should say, slowly shipping small quantities to beta test customers. From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2018 2:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Test 6/9 @ 11:00 Pacific I already have that. We are slowly shipping small quantities. Ramping up. Adding the single pol

Re: [AFMUG] Test 6/9 @ 11:00 Pacific

2018-06-09 Thread chuck
I already have that. We are slowly shipping small quantities. Ramping up. Adding the single pol and adding the Andrew valuline adapter. From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2018 1:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Test 6/9 @ 11:00 Pacific So you won’t have a dual

Re: [AFMUG] Test 6/9 @ 11:00 Pacific

2018-06-09 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
So you won’t have a dual pol adapter? Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com > On Jun 9, 2018, at 3:02 PM, wrote: > > Working on REMEC rectangular to AF11X adapters today. Only one polarization > will be used. But at least the antenna can

Re: [AFMUG] Test 6/9 @ 11:00 Pacific

2018-06-09 Thread chuck
Working on REMEC rectangular to AF11X adapters today. Only one polarization will be used. But at least the antenna can get reused. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2018 12:58 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Test 6/9 @ 11:00 Pacific Que pasa , calabasa? Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Test 6/9 @ 11:00 Pacific

2018-06-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Que pasa , calabasa? Jaime Solorza On Sat, Jun 9, 2018, 12:01 PM wrote: > Received one minute before you sent it. > > *From:* Jason McKemie > *Sent:* Saturday, June 9, 2018 11:59 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Test 6/9 @ 11:00 Pacific > > Received here about 1pm central. > >

Re: [AFMUG] Test 6/9 @ 11:00 Pacific

2018-06-09 Thread chuck
Received one minute before you sent it. From: Jason McKemie Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2018 11:59 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Test 6/9 @ 11:00 Pacific Received here about 1pm central. On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 12:57 PM, TJ Trout wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Test 6/9 @ 11:00 Pacific

2018-06-09 Thread Jason McKemie
Received here about 1pm central. On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 12:57 PM, TJ Trout wrote: >

[AFMUG] Test 6/9 @ 11:00 Pacific

2018-06-09 Thread TJ Trout

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

2018-06-08 Thread Jeremy
Yeah, straying off-topic but our 6GHz link is actually a Trango that we own and are moving around as we upgrade to higher capacity backhauls. On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 5:49 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > The older ubiquiti radios can be set to "compliance test" mode, and then > you can use any channel

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

2018-06-08 Thread Mathew Howard
The older ubiquiti radios can be set to "compliance test" mode, and then you can use any channel that the chipset supports (not legally, obviously). On later firmware, they get rid of that option, and the new radios are locked to the US/Canada country code, so they're a lot harder to do blatantly

Re: [AFMUG] this list

2018-06-08 Thread Jaime Solorza
Knobs, switches , buttons and levers!! Jaime Solorza On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 11:01 AM wrote: > Not sure. Since the domain has not transferred yet I cannot even get into > the back end of the new list server. Not sure how many knobs it has. > > *From:* Steve Jones > *Sent:* Friday, June 8, 2018

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

2018-06-08 Thread Jaime Solorza
I have picked Ubiquiti 6GHz links on a rocket I use for spectral analysis that has 4900 to 6xxx ...I was given it when I replaced that Rocket with Cambium EPMP client was using ,5740 on Rocket...claims he did know why it had all those channelsguess he felt guilty and gave it to

Re: [AFMUG] 450M - Medusa groupings?

2018-06-08 Thread castarritt
Those MU-MIMO numbers look pretty weak. The only one I've seen that bad on our network turned out to be defective. What does the VC sounding look like under stats/radio? Do you have a bunch of VCs that are un-tracked? On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 2:52 PM, Joe Novak wrote: > This doesn't tell you

Re: [AFMUG] 450M - Medusa groupings?

2018-06-08 Thread Joe Novak
This doesn't tell you what group the users are apart of, more about how often you are able to group users on the downlink. https://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/450m-slot-grouping-help/td-p/71749 2nd post, " What the table shows is actually like a "histogram" of how many SMs are

Re: [AFMUG] 450M - Medusa groupings?

2018-06-08 Thread Bill Prince
Beyond the grouping, I would like to know the various azimuths so I know how well or poorly we've aimed the Medusa. bp On 6/8/2018 12:41 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: On the statistics, you can see the mummy groupings, so this means my users are mostly in 2,3,4 elements of the MUMIMO

[AFMUG] Fiber blowing y block

2018-06-08 Thread Jon Langeler
Any recommendations? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc.

[AFMUG] 450M - Medusa groupings?

2018-06-08 Thread Gino A. Villarini
On the statistics, you can see the mummy groupings, so this means my users are mostly in 2,3,4 elements of the MUMIMO sector? Is there a way to physically know were most users are located within the sector? [cid:61A79637-3867-42F3-8E88-7EE2B8D9793D] Gino A. Villarini President Metro

Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow?

2018-06-08 Thread Paul Stewart
I’ve done a lot of work with that model in the past and it works very well …. Extremely flexible what you can then do for multi-service handoff as well  -p From: Af on behalf of Carl Peterson Reply-To: Date: Friday, June 8, 2018 at 1:52 PM To: Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-08 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Make that a single radio with a “beeamforming” Omni, radio selects what beam subs are in… From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Matt Mangriotis mailto:matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Friday, June 8,

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-08 Thread Matt Mangriotis
I certainly hoped you filled in the survey! This is good stuff. Thanks, Matt From: Af On Behalf Of Carl Peterson Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 11:43 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [ External ] Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey Because you have a few thousand 450 subs and don't wan't to

Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow?

2018-06-08 Thread Carl Peterson
I've been thinking a lot about the flat -> routed transition lately and my current thinking is that we over reacted and just went to routers everywhere. We have been trimming back a lot and moving to running QinQ over VPLS where every sub has their own CVLAN in an SVLAN. As I get more

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-08 Thread Mathew Howard
Not that much, in most cases. Canopy PTP450 in 900mhz can use a 20mhz channel, and do 256qam, but most of the time you're lucky if it even works. In ideal conditions, I guess it should be able to do 100Mbps or so, but 900mhz rarely works as well as one would hope. We have a 1.7 mile PTP450 link

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-08 Thread chuck
Oh, input on 900, yes. Get the guys in Devon to roll a PTP600 in a 900 MHz version. From: Brian Sullivan Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 11:08 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey A neat product (which we couldn't use around here) would be a

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-08 Thread chuck
I wonder how much speed you could get from a 900 radio that uses the whole 20 MHz. If that was the output of the micropop and you kept distances short and antenna gains up it would hammer through almost anything. Say 512 QAM. You could deliver 100 Mbps. Of course you would be claiming a

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-08 Thread Brian Sullivan
A neat product (which we couldn't use around here) would be a 5G 450 AP with 900MHz OFDM PTP built in.  Although you would have to use all the available 900Mhz spectrum to make it worthwhile. Perhaps a nLOS 3.65 or LTE PTP combined with 450 AP would work in some areas. On 6/8/2018 12:03 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-08 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, "under the canopy" doesn't really happen around here, but getting into the middle of the trees does work in some cases... if we can get a point-to-point link working to one house in the middle of a subdivision, you can often get LOS to several other houses and nLOS will sometimes even work

Re: [AFMUG] this list

2018-06-08 Thread chuck
Not sure. Since the domain has not transferred yet I cannot even get into the back end of the new list server. Not sure how many knobs it has. From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:44 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] this list if there is a mechanism to sign up manually,

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-08 Thread chuck
A 450 translator would be a cool device. 5G in and some other frequency out. Essentially an SM and AP in one box. SM circuit for the backhaul, AP for the micropop. Maintains timing etc. From: Carl Peterson Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:43 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

2018-06-08 Thread chuck
Pop the cover on the AF5x, there is a tiny screwdriver adjustment marked “freq”. Just tweak it up to 6 GHz and you are good to go. Saves lots of money that way. From: Jeremy Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed I have an AF5X on 3'

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-08 Thread Jay Weekley
I added up around 15 different models of radios that we may run into during a day. The van gets crowded. Colin Stanners wrote: In our company we have 900FSK, 2.4FSK, 2.4 450, 3.65 WiMAX, 3.65 450, 5ghz 430 and 5ghz 450 SMs... really trying to minimize the number of radio models but there

Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow?

2018-06-08 Thread Paul Stewart
Can’t comment on “small iron” routers as limited experience but can tell you with larger gear (which in theory has a lot more CPU/processing capability) that large OSPF networks (100k routes) exist and work just fine.  One company I consulted for a number of years ago had over 600k routes in

Re: [AFMUG] this list

2018-06-08 Thread Steve Jones
if there is a mechanism to sign up manually, it might be best to share in the event it doesnt migrate well so the info is already out there out of curiousity, is the new list going to be publicly searchable like the aws list? On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 10:10 AM wrote: > I should be able to

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-08 Thread Carl Peterson
Because you have a few thousand 450 subs and don't wan't to have to stock your vans with something new. Because you want to unload some of your sectors without re-installing customers, just a repoint. Being able to move 20-30 subs off a sector to a micropop is huge. Because you want consistency

[AFMUG] EPMP Force 200, Buy only the Radio

2018-06-08 Thread Nate Burke
We're getting enough F200 radios in the air now that we are starting to have some failures, mostly storm related. We just change the radio unit, since alignment is all done. So I'm ending up with all these F200 dish parts sitting on the shelf that have no use. Is anyone selling just the

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-08 Thread Dave
Have you seen the Force 200 radios :) Our guys love em for our 2 little micro-pops using epmp1000 sectors Fixing to have to look at higher capacity at one of the micropops On 06/08/2018 11:22 AM, Colin Stanners wrote: In our company we have 900FSK, 2.4FSK, 2.4 450, 3.65 WiMAX, 3.65 450, 5ghz

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

2018-06-08 Thread Jeremy
I have an AF5X on 3' UBNT dishes (x-pol modified) that does 300x100 at 19 miles. It is about to be swapped for 6GHz though. On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 4:48 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: > Mimosa B5c can pull 500Mbps to 1Gbps on that type of link depending on how > much spectrum you want to use. > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-08 Thread Colin Stanners
In our company we have 900FSK, 2.4FSK, 2.4 450, 3.65 WiMAX, 3.65 450, 5ghz 430 and 5ghz 450 SMs... really trying to minimize the number of radio models but there isn't much that you can do due to history, existing customer base, cost of upgrades and interference/trees in different areas. At least

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-08 Thread Steve D
And in bands outside of 5GHz as well. I don't think there is such a thing as "under the canopy" around here. When you're in the trees, you're in the trees. 900 in a lite configuration would be ideal for us. -Steve D On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 7:05 AM Matt wrote: > Why not just make a PMP450i

Re: [AFMUG] this list

2018-06-08 Thread chuck
I should be able to automatically sign everyone up. I have the list. I believe there is a bulk import. It may send you a note asking you to verify. I would hope it will. From: Carl Peterson Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 9:07 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] this list So before it

Re: [AFMUG] this list

2018-06-08 Thread Carl Peterson
So before it dies, is there a process for us to sign up for the new list? On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 10:55 AM, wrote: > It is gonna die any day now. I gave GoDaddy the magic Tucows key to steal > it away from them. > > I have mailman hired to host. > > I keep checking on the status of the domain

[AFMUG] this list

2018-06-08 Thread chuck
It is gonna die any day now. I gave GoDaddy the magic Tucows key to steal it away from them. I have mailman hired to host. I keep checking on the status of the domain transfer and it just says “in process” or something like that.

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-08 Thread Matt
Why not just make a PMP450i lite connectorized AP? On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 8:19 AM, Matt Mangriotis wrote: > Very good question George… > > > > I am trying to gauge interest. Some folks would prefer that they are using > the same equipment throughout the network, and we don’t really have an >

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-08 Thread Mathew Howard
Yes, it is very common to not able to complete an install with 5ghz because of foliage, and we have done exactly that in several areas (using ePMP, in our case). On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 8:19 AM, Matt Mangriotis < matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote: > Very good question George… > > > > I

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-08 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Simple reason.. The need to deliver Next Gen level of Internet Service BW. (50meg/100meg/150meg/200meg/300meg + ) on a per client basis. :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom http://www.snappytelecom.net Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email:

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-08 Thread Matt Mangriotis
Very good question George... I am trying to gauge interest. Some folks would prefer that they are using the same equipment throughout the network, and we don't really have an option right now for a lower priced (shorter range) but high throughput extension of the network, but still a 450.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-07 Thread Mathew Howard
I could see somebody that has an all 450 network wanting something like that, but since we have no 450 (other than 900mhz... ), I'd have no use for such a thing. On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 9:47 PM, George Skorup wrote: > Ok, I guess I have to be the one to say this. Why would we want a > 450-based

Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow?

2018-06-07 Thread Bill Prince
I think we all started with really flat networks, and I think of them the same way as Chuck; all L2 accessible. One subnet. That really only works for about 200-250 subscribers, and then you are done. If you've got 10, 100, or 1000 routes in an OSPF design, you are not really "flat" except by

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-07 Thread Steve Jones
cause the operator is trying to get off meth and figure if they waste all their money buying more AP than is required they wont have any money for the crank On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 9:47 PM George Skorup wrote: > Ok, I guess I have to be the one to say this. Why would we want a > 450-based

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-07 Thread George Skorup
Ok, I guess I have to be the one to say this. Why would we want a 450-based micro-POP product when we have ePMP? Just askin'. On 6/7/2018 10:29 AM, Matt Mangriotis wrote: I would really like to get your opinions on this topic� would a 450 device like this help you in your network?

[AFMUG] Underbed truck boxes for small POP enclosure

2018-06-07 Thread Eric Kuhnke
If anyone has modified an underbody truck box for a small POP - can you share some photos? Looking at a few different 24" and 36" width models now with gasketed door.

Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow?

2018-06-07 Thread Chuck McCown
Yeah, nightmare... From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2018 6:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow? He's talking about having all routers in OSPF area 0, not a truly flat L2 broadcast-domain nightmare. On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 5:15 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow?

2018-06-07 Thread Eric Kuhnke
He's talking about having all routers in OSPF area 0, not a truly flat L2 broadcast-domain nightmare. On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 5:15 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > To me, flat network means all MACs are in the same broadcast domain. > That is what I did with my first Canopy system. > Did not even know

Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow?

2018-06-07 Thread Josh Baird
But you are still running MPLS on top of some IGP (OSPF, etc)? On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 7:47 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: > Our network by all means is flat as all services converge into our core. > We started by using vlans and qinq but later migrated to mpls/vpls. > > Now watching evpn as the

Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow?

2018-06-07 Thread Chuck McCown
To me, flat network means all MACs are in the same broadcast domain. That is what I did with my first Canopy system. Did not even know what a VLAN was back then. From: Gino A. Villarini Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2018 5:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat

Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow?

2018-06-07 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Our network by all means is flat as all services converge into our core. We started by using vlans and qinq but later migrated to mpls/vpls. Now watching evpn as the next step.. From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Lewis Bergman mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> Reply-To:

Re: [AFMUG] from Paul - List hosting

2018-06-07 Thread Robert Andrews
ess On 06/07/2018 02:20 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: He did die. Couple of years ago. Wife # 7(?) and an unethical estate attorney carried on the fight (along with about a dozen other attorneys). Aided of course by all the 30 something middle managers that were slid into the positions vacated

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Mapping - 2018

2018-06-07 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Purpose built fiber mapping tools with a SQL database backend definitely do exist - but you're looking at license costs that are prohibitive for all but the biggest ISPs. The sort of money for which you could hire a full time splicer and equip a splicing trailer + its operating costs...

Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow?

2018-06-07 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Also worth mentioning that a lot of OSPF documentation available on the Internet, makes assumptions that were valid in 2002 or so... When a typical router had a lot less DRAM and CPU. Such as a Cisco 3725/3745 or even something smaller like a 2621. Probably still true if you're trying to do OSPF

Re: [AFMUG] from Paul - List hosting

2018-06-07 Thread chuck
He did die. Couple of years ago. Wife # 7(?) and an unethical estate attorney carried on the fight (along with about a dozen other attorneys). Aided of course by all the 30 something middle managers that were slid into the positions vacated after the massacre 4.5 years ago. I say she is

Re: [AFMUG] from Paul - List hosting

2018-06-07 Thread chuck
No expiration. But I am sure there would not be big money either... -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 2:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] from Paul - List hosting On 6/6/18 12:10, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: That storm cloud that followed me for

Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow?

2018-06-07 Thread Dennis Burgess
This is a “unanswerable” question. In honesty, you can have 20k routes in OSPF and it be responsive so the routing platform does not have a limit. The number of routers, is another issue, if you have 500 routers all fiber connected and they don’t go up/down much, then no big deal, however, if

Re: [AFMUG] from Paul - List hosting

2018-06-07 Thread Robert Andrews
When the bastard dies On 06/07/2018 01:01 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 6/6/18 12:10, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: That storm cloud that followed me for 1366 days has been gone for a few months now. I am under a confidentiality agreement and a non disparagement agreement so not going to say too

Re: [AFMUG] from Paul - List hosting

2018-06-07 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 6/6/18 12:10, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: That storm cloud that followed me for 1366 days has been gone for a few months now.  I am under a confidentiality agreement and a non disparagement agreement so not going to say too much. Does it have an expiration so you can write a tell all exposé

Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow?

2018-06-07 Thread Mark Radabaugh
As long as it’s stable you are nowhere near the limits of OSPF as a IGP, and there are a number of fairly simple ways to start to segment the network when you start to reach the limits. OSPF itself is fine but during network instability situations you may run into issues with CPU on some of

Re: [AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow?

2018-06-07 Thread Lewis Bergman
Gino would probably be your best source for advice as I'll bet he has one of the largest networks of similar construction. I think he went MPLS to deal with a variety of issues he was having, including OSPF. But maybe Gino can speak up on the issue. Typically, if you didn't want to do anything

[AFMUG] OSPF - How large can a flat network grow?

2018-06-07 Thread Brough Turner
We're an urban WISP with a dense mesh of wireless links and a router per building. I am concerned that, without paying attention, we have grown to 600+ routers and ~2550 routes in one OSPF domain. This network has a diverse mix of routers from CCR1036s down to RB750UPs. We're not having any OSPF

Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 25

2018-06-07 Thread Chuck McCown
I have found that the more you start a sentence with “can you help me” the better it is. From: David Sovereen Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2018 12:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 25 I agree that those are the items to focus on with OSHA. Item 1: "The employer did not

Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 25

2018-06-07 Thread David Sovereen
I agree that those are the items to focus on with OSHA. > Item 1: > "The employer did not require a competent person to inspect." Except that is incorrect. The person who fell WAS a competent person. He held a “Competent Climber” certification card from CITCA. A significant portion of

[AFMUG] Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-07 Thread Matt Mangriotis
I would really like to get your opinions on this topic... would a 450 device like this help you in your network? Now's you chance to comment and help direct us! Please fill out the short survey and add any other info you'd like. It's only 16 questions. Matt From: Af On Behalf Of Ray Savich

[AFMUG] Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

2018-06-07 Thread Ray Savich
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