After successful experiments, roundcube is now up and running in two
separate instances for customer-facing and internal email client
services...
Most people also synchronize their email inboxes by IMAPS with a regular
client like Thunderbird, Outlook, or one of the many iOS and Android
clients. H
teve
> Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 10:53 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Roundcube
>
> I've run Surgemail and Zimbra without any issues for years. Surgemail is
> cheap fast and extremely configurable. It has a mirror license you can get
> so you run serv
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>> *From: *"Lewis Bergman"
>> *To:
Oh, I'm not doing it for everyone, just on a as-requested basis. That works
out to like 1 in 25 people typically. And doing email for people who have
weird things like scanner/printer/fax multifunction devices that need their
own email account for outgoing SMTP(TLS).
On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 4:01 AM
etter
looking webmail on Surgemail but their system is very functional and rather
simple which is more important in my opinion.
-p
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 10:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Roun
alone. They alert
> you to any problems ahead of time.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mike Hammett"
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 8:18:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Roundcube
>
> There seems to be two camps. One where peopl
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> *From:* Ken Hohhof
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 05, 2015 9:13 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Roundcube
>
> For the typical WISP, I think it’s 3 facts:
>
> Fact 1: 10% of customers are morons
> Fact 2: 10% of customers will get an email accou
me they got me to reset
their password.
Not fun.
- Original Message -
From: Ken Hohhof
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Roundcube
For the typical WISP, I think it’s 3 facts:
Fact 1: 10% of customers are morons
Fact 2: 10%
Roundcube is one of the webmail apps within cPanel. They figure it all
out and I don't mess with any of it. And the cPanel webmail interface
lets the users manage their password, filters, etc.
We do have a couple hundred users on our domain and at the beginning of
the year, we're going to tell
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>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
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>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>> http://www.midwest-ix.com
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>> &
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*From: *"Ken Hohhof"
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Thursday, November 5, 2015 9:13:41 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Roundcube
For the typical WISP, I think it’s 3 facts:
Fact 1: 10% of customers are morons
Fact 2: 10% of customers will get an ema
times. So there is no
additional cost for email.
So can't see how money is an issue.
- Original Message -
From: "Lewis Bergman"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 11:31:00 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Roundcube
What I get out of this discussion is that the
witter.com/mdwestix>
> --
> *From: *"Lewis Bergman"
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, November 5, 2015 10:31:00 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Roundcube
>
> What I get out of this discussion is that the guy who thinks it is no
> troub
est-ix.com
- Original Message -
From: "Lewis Bergman"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 10:31:00 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Roundcube
What I get out of this discussion is that the guy who thinks it is no trouble
or that expensive is not the guy writing t
://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>
>
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> -
o run off that cluster instead
of the local boxes they are now.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet Exchange
http://www.midwest-ix.com
- Original Message -
From: "Josh Baird"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, N
nformation.
- Original Message -
From: "Lewis Bergman"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 11:06:37 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Roundcube
All of this, except Ken's response, has nothing to do with the real cost.
The real cost is not making a server run, it is dealing
gent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet Exchange
http://www.midwest-ix.com
- Original Message -
From: "Ken Hohhof"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 9:13:41 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Roundcube
For the typical WISP, I think it’s 3 fact
t all. Once they
> are set up if you keep them up to date they really can be left alone. They
> alert you to any problems ahead of time.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mike Hammett"
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 8:18:25 AM
>
them up to date they really can be left alone. They alert
you to any problems ahead of time.
- Original Message -
From: "Mike Hammett"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 8:18:25 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Roundcube
There seems to be two camps. One where people ar
tions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
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>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
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>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Surely you recognize the absurdity of 14 servers for a few hundred mailboxes.
Might as well give each customer their own personal mailserver. Wait, was
Hillary one of your customers?
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 8:44 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Roundcube
aren’t making money from data mining.
From: Lewis Bergman
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 8:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Roundcube
How many thousands of users do you have? Running the service is pretty cheap. I
built my own sendmail+Dovecot system which was really cheap. Then I
Josh Baird"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 8:59:10 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Roundcube
Seven servers (yes, I know they are VMs), as awesome as Zimbra may be, is a
little ridiculous for a few hundred users.
On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.ne
Midwest Internet Exchange
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> --
> *From: *"Lewis Bergman"
&g
14
servers by then.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet Exchange
http://www.midwest-ix.com
- Original Message -
From: "Lewis Bergman"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 8:29:00 AM
Subject: Re:
Gmail
Ducking under large cave
On 11/05/2015 02:22 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
Any tips of tricks for success with using Roundcube to provide webmail
to individual end users (not a single domain corporate environment)?
Server side is postfix + spamassassin + dovecot.
I have a successful 'test' s
et Exchange
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> ------
> *From: *"Lewis Bergman"
> *To: *af@afm
quot;
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 8:08:29 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Roundcube
For me it wasn't about difficulty it was about expense. Email, at least how we
did it, was a cost center not a profit center. I kept it until I sold and wish
I would have ditched it much soo
rnet Exchange
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> ------
> *From: *"Chuck Hogg"
> *To: *af@afmug.com
&
*From: *"Chuck Hogg"
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Thursday, November 5, 2015 6:01:35 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Roundcube
I hope you are charging handsomely for email. We just quit it for our
customer base...and only had 2-3 complaints. Everyone already has a
http://www.midwest-ix.com
- Original Message -
From: "Chuck Hogg"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 6:01:35 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Roundcube
I hope you are charging handsomely for email. We just quit it for our customer
base...and only had 2-3 compl
I hope you are charging handsomely for email. We just quit it for our
customer base...and only had 2-3 complaints. Everyone already has an email
address.
Regards,
Chuck
On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 3:22 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
> Any tips of tricks for success with using Roundcube to provide webmai
Any tips of tricks for success with using Roundcube to provide webmail to
individual end users (not a single domain corporate environment)?
Server side is postfix + spamassassin + dovecot.
I have a successful 'test' setup of roundcube running in a VM doing TLSv1.2
on smtp and imap, logged into se
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