Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-18 Thread Mathew Howard
...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Saturday, February 14, 2015 9:51:28 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results I talked to the Exede guys at AF. After running a speedtest with 650+ms of latency they told me that their VoIP works perfectly. I called BS and they had it hooked

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-18 Thread Mathew Howard
/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com *To: *af af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, February 18, 2015 11:19:05 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results That's similar to what I'm seeing

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-18 Thread Mike Hammett
11:19:05 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results That's similar to what I'm seeing. we only have one link up so far, but pinging between the routers on each end of the link, I get an average of 5ms and minimum of 4ms. On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 10:32 PM, Rory Conaway r

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-18 Thread Mike Hammett
...@triadwireless.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:06:13 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results No. Single 40, dual 40’s, single 80, or dual 80. rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 5:57 AM

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-18 Thread Mike Hammett
: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 11:12:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results We can’t feed the radios at their maximum capacity. I’ve seen screenshots of guys running 850Mbps. I can run radio to radio tests at 750+Mbps with 80MHz wide channels but I just turned them down

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-18 Thread Rory Conaway
No. Single 40, dual 40’s, single 80, or dual 80. rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 5:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results So if you're getting 750 with 80 MHz, you'd only need

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-17 Thread TJ Trout
*To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results Argh, It wouldn't surprise me... On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: I'd be curious to see how this actually worked at an end user's location. I wouldn't surprise

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-17 Thread Rory Conaway
: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results Argh, It wouldn't surprise me... On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.commailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: I'd be curious to see how this actually worked at an end user's location. I wouldn't

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-17 Thread Rory Conaway
yes From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 9:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results are those links running with gps sync? Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-17 Thread Rory Conaway
are adding 2 more hops tomorrow for a 5-hop link. We are going to feed it with 300Mbps. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 9:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results What kind of throughput are you

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-17 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Saturday, February 14, 2015 9:51:28 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results I talked to the Exede guys at AF. After running a speedtest with 650+ms of latency they told me that their VoIP works perfectly. I called BS and they had

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-15 Thread Mike Hammett
...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 9:51:28 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results I talked to the Exede guys at AF. After running a speedtest with 650+ms of latency they told me that their VoIP works perfectly. I called BS and they had it hooked up

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results I wouldn't have thought it would, but it kinda supports my point that if you can control the other metrics, latency can go much higher on VoIP calls. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-15 Thread Jason McKemie
*Sent: *Saturday, February 14, 2015 9:51:28 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results I talked to the Exede guys at AF. After running a speedtest with 650+ms of latency they told me that their VoIP works perfectly. I called BS and they had it hooked up and said feel free. I

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-15 Thread Jason McKemie
://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Saturday, February 14, 2015 9:51:28 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results I talked to the Exede

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Mike Hammett
AF5X? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 10:23:56 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results I can't afford

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Mike Hammett
- Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 8:36:12 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results Just got done testing a Trango Altum AC PTP link on the bench. Units are 25db integrated panels. Did a 40mhz

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Erich Kaiser
you mind telling me what those radios cost? Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 7:36 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results Just got done testing a Trango Altum AC PTP link

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread John Woodfield
@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results I saw that too when I was reviewing the brochure this morning. I was just assuming they were considering this a long range product. Kurt, do you mind telling me what those radios cost? Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 8:39:27 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results I wonder if WISPs are going to be part of a trend toward higher latencies. It used to be customers mainly did web browsing and really

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
to. They just want mass quantities of data to watch video, as cheap as possible. I guess gamers still care about ping times. From: Erich Kaiser Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 7:44 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results I would assume AF5x is going to be the same

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Bill Prince
, 2015 8:39:27 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results I wonder if WISPs are going to be part of a trend toward higher latencies. It used to be customers mainly did web browsing and really noticed whether the websites snapped up immediately or lagged. Now everyone is streaming

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Mathew Howard
@afmug.com *Sent: *Saturday, February 14, 2015 7:44:08 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results I would assume AF5x is going to be the same issue if you are using GPS? Erich Kaiser North Central Tower Consulting er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread John Woodfield
@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results ADSL latencies used to be over 40ms or more. Cable latencies are about 10ms from my router to the first hop so 10ms isn’t that big a deal. I agree with you Mike. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Mike Hammett
- Original Message - From: Erich Kaiser er...@northcentraltower.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 7:44:08 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results I would assume AF5x is going to be the same issue if you are using GPS? Erich Kaiser North Central

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Mike Hammett
: Saturday, February 14, 2015 8:39:27 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results I wonder if WISPs are going to be part of a trend toward higher latencies. It used to be customers mainly did web browsing and really noticed whether the websites snapped up immediately or lagged. Now

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Rory Conaway
: Saturday, February 14, 2015 9:02 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results Not to mention the UBNT gear under load has at least that much latency... John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Rory

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
opinion. From: John Woodfield Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 10:01 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results Not to mention the UBNT gear under load has at least that much latency... John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Rory Conaway
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results A lot of WISPs get hardons over low latencies, but as long as end-to-end is under 100 ms or so, it doesn't really matter. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Ken

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Eric Kuhnke
reless.net Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 9:38pm To: "af@afmug.com" af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results I saw that too when I was reviewing the broc

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Mathew Howard
...@triadwireless.net r...@triadwireless.net Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 9:38pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results I saw that too when I was reviewing the brochure this morning. I was just assuming they were considering

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread John Woodfield
If you say so. John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 11:29am To: af af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results I have

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Mike Hammett
to the Internet exchange point. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 11:11 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results 100 ms end to end. That user device to the far server. If you're like Josh in Alaska, there's 30 - 40 ms before you even get anywhere

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
Hughesnet had a filing suggesting either no latency benchmark, or 750 ms. From: Bill Prince Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 11:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results Well if there is a mention of latency (and whether there is or isn't) will speak

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Mike Hammett
- Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 10:12:19 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results I think Kurt’s point, which I agree with, is this is a PTP product, and backhaul latencies get multiplied

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
exchange point. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 11:11 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results 100 ms end to end. That user device to the far server. If you're like Josh in Alaska, there's 30 - 40 ms before you even get anywhere

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Jeremy
-il.com -- *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com af...@kwisp.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Saturday, February 14, 2015 10:12:19 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results I think Kurt’s point, which I agree with, is this is a PTP product, and backhaul

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-13 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
] Trango Altum AC PTP test results Just got done testing a Trango Altum AC PTP link on the bench. Units are 25db integrated panels. Did a 40mhz channel test and 80mhz via UDP. I tried a TCP test between two RB2011's and best I seen was 175-180'ish and that was with both 40 and 80mhz channels. CPU

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-13 Thread Jeremy
*To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results Just got done testing a Trango Altum AC PTP link on the bench. Units are 25db integrated panels. Did a 40mhz channel test and 80mhz via UDP. I tried a TCP test between two RB2011's and best I seen was 175-180'ish

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-13 Thread Jeremy
? Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 7:36 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results Just got done testing a Trango Altum AC PTP link on the bench. Units are 25db integrated

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-13 Thread Jeremy
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results Just got done testing a Trango Altum AC PTP link on the bench. Units are 25db integrated panels. Did a 40mhz channel test and 80mhz via UDP. I tried a TCP test between two RB2011's and best I seen was 175-180'ish and that was with both 40

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-13 Thread Rory Conaway
:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results Just got done testing a Trango Altum AC PTP link on the bench. Units are 25db integrated panels. Did a 40mhz channel test and 80mhz via UDP. I tried a TCP test between two RB2011's and best I seen was 175-180'ish

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-13 Thread Jeremy
assuming they were considering this a long range product. Kurt, do you mind telling me what those radios cost? Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 7:36 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-13 Thread Jeremy
] Trango Altum AC PTP test results Just got done testing a Trango Altum AC PTP link on the bench. Units are 25db integrated panels. Did a 40mhz channel test and 80mhz via UDP. I tried a TCP test between two RB2011's and best I seen was 175-180'ish and that was with both 40 and 80mhz channels. CPU

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-13 Thread Erich Kaiser
telling me what those radios cost? Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 7:36 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results Just got done testing a Trango Altum AC PTP link on the bench

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-13 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 7:36 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results Just got done testing a Trango Altum AC PTP link on the bench. Units are 25db integrated panels. Did a 40mhz

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-13 Thread Erich Kaiser
telling me what those radios cost? Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 7:36 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results Just got done testing a Trango Altum AC PTP link on the bench