Yep... same here.
On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
> On 8/23/16 12:06, Mathew Howard wrote:
>
>> I also agree with what Ken said - it isn't worth it to sell routers.
>> Even if you are making a $70 profit, it wouldn't be worth it with what
>> you end up having to deal with f
On 8/23/16 12:06, Mathew Howard wrote:
I also agree with what Ken said - it isn't worth it to sell routers.
Even if you are making a $70 profit, it wouldn't be worth it with what
you end up having to deal with from some customers. It's much better to
lease them a managed router.
I used to try t
>
> I'm also 100% in agreement with Ken Hohhof. If it's my choice I wouldn't
> sell a router at all...too many potential customer service issues.
>
>
> ------ Original Message --
> From: "Steve D"
> To: "af"
> Sent: 8/23/2016 12:2
choice I
wouldn't sell a router at all...too many potential customer service
issues.
-- Original Message --
From: "Steve D"
To: "af"
Sent: 8/23/2016 12:22:31 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISP ethics
Did your feeble aunt who doesn't know the first thing ab
; Thank you good sir for the laugh this Tuesday morning.
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>>> Brian McCoy
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>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2016 10:16 PM
>>> *To
ery entertaining. I still have a solid belly chuckle going right now.
>> Thank you good sir for the laugh this Tuesday morning.
>>
>>
>>
>> Brian McCoy
>>
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>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
>> *Se
y morning.
>
>
>
> Brian McCoy
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>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
> *Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2016 10:16 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WISP ethics
>
>
>
> In the land of moose, maple syrup and prime min
22, 2016 10:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISP ethics
In the land of moose, maple syrup and prime ministers who aren't afraid to
choke out a protestor [1], my wife and I pay $130 CAD together monthly for
health insurance... Which covers pretty much everything.
[1]:
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> customer. Take abuse and last forever.
>
>
> *From:* Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 23, 2016 12:09 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WISP ethics
>
> That WNR1000 is a horrible selection to be selling a customer in 2016, at
> any price.
>
>
lease, get a minor
cleaning, and go back out to another customer. Take abuse and last forever.
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 12:09 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISP ethics
That WNR1000 is a horrible selection to be selling a customer in 2016, at any
price.
But
@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISP ethics
This is not a WISP that competes with me in any way...
It's actually a family member's new last mile connection, where the bill looks
like:
NRC
$several hundred dollars - CPE radio
$165 - new customer one time installation fee
$80 route
Did your feeble aunt who doesn't know the first thing about realty buy the
house? Do you think she felt ripped off after you the expert told her the
house has termites and the golf course is actually a farm with the hay cut
extra low? If she knew about all that, then sure, not much else to be sai
caveat emptor...no one is making them buy the router are they??
-Sean
On Monday, August 22, 2016, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
> This is not a WISP that competes with me in any way...
>
> It's actually a family member's new last mile connection, where the bill
> looks like:
>
> NRC
> $several hundred do
Something is worth whatever someone will pay for it.
Eight years ago, contractors were building nice homes in a nice new
area, next to a golf course. They would build it for $600k (total cost
for everything) and then turn around and sell them for $1.2 - $1.4
million. Were people getting screwe
In the land of moose, maple syrup and prime ministers who aren't afraid to
choke out a protestor [1], my wife and I pay $130 CAD together monthly for
health insurance... Which covers pretty much everything.
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawinigan_Handshake
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 7:09 PM
You better stay away from the medical industry.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Aug 22, 2016 10:01 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote:
> This is not a WISP that competes with me in any way...
>
> It's actually a family member's new last mil
This is not a WISP that competes with me in any way...
It's actually a family member's new last mile connection, where the bill
looks like:
NRC
$several hundred dollars - CPE radio
$165 - new customer one time installation fee
$80 router purchase
MRC
$85 monthly for a reasonably high quota servi
I agree if they are selling the router along with installing it for $80
and they are not selling it as a new router I don't see the problem. Its
a $10 plus say $10 for shipping and $60 to install it. If that was geek
squad the bill would probably come out to $300...
I agree if this is a compet
If this is your competition, I encourage you to forget about it. Nothing
productive will come of it.
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016, 7:33 PM Josh Luthman
wrote:
> That doesn't really answer the questions though. Sounds like the second
> one kinda...
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-5
That doesn't really answer the questions though. Sounds like the second
one kinda...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Aug 22, 2016 7:47 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote:
> A CPE radio was installed and aimed, ubnt PoE injector put in plac
It was not specified whether the router was new or used, just "Wifi router,
$80". On top of the already not insignificant (but totally within reason)
new customer service charges for 1 guy to use an extension ladder to bolt a
J-pole to the house eaves, aim a CPE and run about 40' of ca5e.
On Mo
A CPE radio was installed and aimed, ubnt PoE injector put in place, and
the router connected to the LAN side of the PoE...
The CPE radio installation was its own installation service charge and
equipment fee separate from the $80 line item for the router.
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Josh
I agree with Josh... it depends how they're selling it.
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:00 PM, Josh Luthman
wrote:
> If it's sold as new? That's wrong.
>
> If it's sold as a service (go to house, install router, leave)? That's
> fine.
>
> If it's sold as a used product? That's fine.
>
>
> Josh Luth
If it's sold as new? That's wrong.
If it's sold as a service (go to house, install router, leave)? That's
fine.
If it's sold as a used product? That's fine.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:57 PM, Eric K
Many WISPs rent routers or sell home wifi routers to their customers.
Some routers are used pulls from other customers, get factory defaulted and
configured for new customers.
Nothing wrong with this.
If you saw a WISP that was taking used routers from customer pulls and
re-selling them to anoth
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