Re: [AFMUG] wisp hanging on by a thread

I'd start contacting their tower owners...see if you can take over the sites. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Air Link wrote: > If I were you I would contact the bank that is doing the repossession ... > They might be willing to work with you to recover

Re: [AFMUG] wisp hanging on by a thread

ROFL... didnt see that one coming On 12/14/2016 08:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: harsh lewis ​ On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Lewis Bergman > wrote: Having done this before in less severe circumstances I wouldn't do

Re: [AFMUG] wisp hanging on by a thread

10-4 on that one.. We have one here now in the same boat but somehow they keep coming back into the picture. All UBNT gear. .. Their facebook really ramped down their reputation due to not full filling their grass is greener promises. On 12/14/2016 04:55 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: Having

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harsh lewis ​ On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > Having done this before in less severe circumstances I wouldn't do it > again. I think if you could run over there, stack equipment, sign a one > year upstream circuit to make it quicker setup, then

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BTW - their facebook page reports their fiber is back up. - Original Message - From: Jaime Solorza To: Animal Farm Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] wisp hanging on by a thread Chuck has a point... Study the pros and cons. Maybe

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gt; can keep them in service. > Once they find another service provider, they are gone for good. > > -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 2:07 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] wisp hanging on by a thread > > 250 custo

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If you provide them with a temp low speed connections to get them by you keep the customers having faith in WISP's and customers to buy cheap. or if you don't do it anyone that can get cable or DSL will likely just do that and anyone that can't will be calling you and you get free customers that

Re: [AFMUG] wisp hanging on by a thread

Having done this before in less severe circumstances I wouldn't do it again. I think if you could run over there, stack equipment, sign a one year upstream circuit to make it quicker setup, then advertise you would be way ahead. My acquisition was a huge distraction from my internal growth. If

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Agreed On Wed, Dec 14, 2016, 2:03 PM Eric Kuhnke wrote: > run away > > If they're down hard and not coming back up, their customers are angry and > frustrated and disappointed, so serious reputation damage has been done to > their brand name. > > Any money you might

Re: [AFMUG] wisp hanging on by a thread

I’d suggest it’s 24 hours before people cut and run, maybe 48 hours at most … same suggestion for you :) > On Dec 14, 2016, at 2:58 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller > wrote: > > > So there is a WISP near us who we recently started coordinating with on > frequencies, etc. >

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Howard *Sent:* Wednesday, December 14, 2016 2:37 PM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] wisp hanging on by a thread Yeah, but we don't know why their overhead was so high... if they had crazy expensive tower leases, then there might not be much of anything with any value, but I'd say it's certainly worth

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Yes, I would certainly spend some money just to satisfy curiosity. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 2:37 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] wisp hanging on by a thread Yeah, but we don't know why their overhead was so high... if they had crazy expensive tower leases

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- Reply message - From: "Robert Andrews" <i...@avantwireless.com> To: <af@afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] wisp hanging on by a thread Date: Wed, Dec 14, 2016 3:34 PM The point is that with 250 customers they couldn't stay in biz... Overhead was already killing them or they

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Yeah, but we don't know why their overhead was so high... if they had crazy expensive tower leases, then there might not be much of anything with any value, but I'd say it's certainly worth looking into a bit deeper. On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] wisp hanging on by a thread

The point is that with 250 customers they couldn't stay in biz... Overhead was already killing them or they were draining the biz for their pockets... On 12/14/2016 01:25 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 12/14/16 13:23, Cameron Crum wrote: I agree with Chuck. If they are current on tower leases,

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in service. Once they find another service provider, they are gone for good. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 2:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] wisp hanging on by a thread 250 customers should have been enough to make them viable. Sounds

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On 12/14/16 13:23, Cameron Crum wrote: I agree with Chuck. If they are current on tower leases, regardless of what else happens, you could at least have instant access. At this point, you have them over a barrel. It is either fall flat and lose everything or get some kind of cushion. Maybe get

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d their head end >> but yes, need a lot more information before i can make any >> educated decisions. >> >> - Original Message - >> *From:* Josh Luthman <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>

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c.com> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 14, 2016 2:02 PM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] wisp hanging on by a thread Normally it's as simple as: How much does it cost? How much can you make? In th

Re: [AFMUG] wisp hanging on by a thread

*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 14, 2016 2:02 PM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] wisp hanging on by a thread Normally it's as simple as: How much does it cost? How much can you make? In this case...can they sell?

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I would certainly offer some advanced life support in the form of paying the upstream provider a bit to keep them lit until you can dig in and assess the opportunity. From: Ryan Ray Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 1:58 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] wisp hanging on by a thread

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and the tower rentals are just that - rentals - well, i don't need >> their head end >> >> but yes, need a lot more information before i can make any educated >> decisions. >> >> >> - Original Message - >> *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetwork

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> > but yes, need a lot more information before i can make any educated > decisions. > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 14, 2016 2:02 PM > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] wisp

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or satellitehahahahahahahahah. talk about a grinch... - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] wisp hanging on by a thread That's kind of what I thought, though you're assuming they can

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From: Josh Luthman To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] wisp hanging on by a thread Normally it's as simple as: How much does it cost? How much can you make? In this case...can they sell? Bank took everything, what assets can they sell to you?

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That's kind of what I thought, though you're assuming they can get new Internet...I think Jay and I are in a position where it's us or dial-up. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Seth Mattinen

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That could maybe work if it's possible to get them back online within a few days... but if they're 18 miles away, it could take some time to tie into their network, by which point half the customers could be gone... once the majority of the customers are going, about the only value would be in the

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On 12/14/16 12:02, Josh Luthman wrote: In this case...can they sell? Bank took everything, what assets can they sell to you? A customer list is probably it if the bank took everything else back. And if they're already offline that customer list may be worthless as their customers get new

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If it were me, and I have no head for business, I would offer x bandwidth for 30 days for the holidays, no fee. However, you get to do some redirects explaining who you are, what youre doing, and for how long, while their ISP "reorganizes" buys you time to vet them buys them time to save face most

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run away If they're down hard and not coming back up, their customers are angry and frustrated and disappointed, so serious reputation damage has been done to their brand name. Any money you might spend acquiring their network or customers would be better spent, in my opinion, letting them

Re: [AFMUG] wisp hanging on by a thread

Normally it's as simple as: How much does it cost? How much can you make? In this case...can they sell? Bank took everything, what assets can they sell to you? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 2:58 PM, CBB

[AFMUG] wisp hanging on by a thread

So there is a WISP near us who we recently started coordinating with on frequencies, etc. Last Friday, the reached out and asked if we'd like to buy them. Then later that day they stated they were in a contract negotiation with their bandwidth provider and didn't see a solution. Over the