[AFMUG] Electronics question

Can I use the DC relay in a site monitor base unit to trigger an AC relay? Can I use the relay in a site monitor to directly switch an AC load? What I want to do is trick the utility power sensor in a standby generator so I can make it start when I want it to. So an NC relay in-line with

Re: [AFMUG] Generator runtime on very light loads

I have a similar situation, we have a Honda EU20001 running on a 12gal boat gas tank. It will run about 6 days on a tank full. On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > In retrospect, these are stupid questions. > > I wanted the Generac anyway to use for a

Re: [AFMUG] telephone pole climbing spikes

I actually haven't seen someone climb poles in ages. TWC, Frontier, and DP (power) all use bucket trucks. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Justin Wilson wrote: > Not sure. I know

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

We also do not have much 2.4GHz and attempt to install very few non line of sight links. In cases where we have done a few non ideal installs, we have not done it with 2.4GHz but 3.65GHz. That said, for your dense urban area, you will be very happy with the new EPMP 2k. We have not done a

Re: [AFMUG] telephone pole climbing spikes

I like DBI-Sala. I became a Miller fan after awhile though. That aircore harness and their retractable lanyards are very nice. On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Justin Wilson wrote: > Then new designs in “pole technology” is they are actually putting a long > threaded rod through

Re: [AFMUG] telephone pole climbing spikes

Then new designs in “pole technology” is they are actually putting a long threaded rod through the pole. The spikes actually screw into them to brace them. The guy who just went through his apprenticeship for line work on utility poles got cynch-lok stuff from DBI-SALA. Justin Wilson

Re: [AFMUG] telephone pole climbing spikes

Yeah, I've seen those. Wasn't there some reg that went in fairly recently (OSHA / Lineman) that said they couldn't fall more than 3 feet without arrest now? My memory is a little foggy, and I'm not climbing towers anymore. On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Justin Wilson wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] telephone pole climbing spikes

http://www.70esolutions.com/miller-stopfall-fall-restraint-system/ Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net --- http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth http://www.midwest-ix.com COO/Chairman

Re: [AFMUG] Overlashing ADSS

Here's the installation diagram. Shows using Tie Wraps/Zip Ties. http://preformed.com/images/pdfs/Energy/Fiber_Optics/Hardware_for_Aerial_FTTP_Applications/Fiberlign_ADSS_Midspan_Drop/sp3001.pdf Regards, Chuck On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 12:19 AM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>

Re: [AFMUG] telephone pole climbing spikes

Not sure. I know our little town only does bucket work now. Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net --- http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth http://www.midwest-ix.com COO/Chairman Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric > On Jun 3, 2016, at 12:23

Re: [AFMUG] Electronics question

On 6/3/2016 9:43 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: Can I use the DC relay in a site monitor base unit to trigger an AC relay? Yes. Can I use the relay in a site monitor to directly switch an AC load? Yes, as long as you don't exceed the current rating of the contacts. What I want to do is trick the

[AFMUG] 802.3at Switch for PMP450i

What is everyone using as an affordable 802.3at managed switch to power up PMP450i and PTP450i units? Would be so nice if Mikrotik had one.

Re: [AFMUG] 802.3at Switch for PMP450i

No Sync Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Netonix? > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 2:35 PM, Matt wrote: > > What is everyone using

Re: [AFMUG] 802.3at Switch for PMP450i

Mikrotik rb2011 + Packetflux gig SyncInjector Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 3:35 PM, Matt wrote: > What is everyone using as an affordable 802.3at managed switch to > power up

Re: [AFMUG] 802.3at Switch for PMP450i

Netonix? On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 2:35 PM, Matt wrote: > What is everyone using as an affordable 802.3at managed switch to > power up PMP450i and PTP450i units? Would be so nice if Mikrotik had > one.

Re: [AFMUG] 802.3at Switch for PMP450i

He said "power it" :P On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > No Sync > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Josh Reynolds

Re: [AFMUG] Generator runtime on very light loads

Keep in mind that some of the cheap portable generators recommend an oil change after every 8 hours of run time. That would mean three oil changes a day on top of your fuel costs. Might still be cheaper to run the Generac. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com

Re: [AFMUG] Electronics question

If you're talking about a Generac single phase setup, just put in an external DPDT relay to cut the two utility monitor legs (normally the two yellow wires in a transfer kit). Most of the Generac controllers wait for 192 volts or less, so I suppose you could cut only one leg and achieve the

[AFMUG] OT: Bitcoin in the $570's time to unload?

Still holding Bitcoin... should i unload or ride the current upswing wave a bit more? my coin avg cost was $420

Re: [AFMUG] telephone pole climbing spikes

Whimps From: Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, June 3, 2016 10:40 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] telephone pole climbing spikes I actually haven't seen someone climb poles in ages. TWC, Frontier, and DP (power) all use bucket trucks. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

I’m way late to the conversation, but one note on 2.4GHz penetration seems to be that it’s not apples to apples on the base station antenna. Many use the regular sector from Cambium while the UBNT sector has RF Armor or something else on it. Daniel White Managing Director – Hardware

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Bitcoin in the $570's time to unload?

you gotta know when to hole em, know when to fold em...know when to walk away, and know when to run ;-) your guess is as good as mine. I haven't read much on what is causing the recent price surge but it's probably temporary and not sustainable. 2 cents -sean On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 1:04 PM,

[AFMUG] SwOS FYI

I received a new batch of RB260GS units and after a lot of troubleshooting at an install that showed the local SFP interface as being up, but the remote as down I noticed that they were loaded with the 1.15 firmware. After downgrading to 1.13 the link came right up. The change log shows SwOS 1.16

Re: [AFMUG] 802.3at Switch for PMP450i

1090CKHH = gig ports? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 4:08 PM, Matt Mangriotis < matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote: > For clarification: > > > > 1090CKHH is CMM4 in the outdoor cabinet with included

Re: [AFMUG] 802.3at Switch for PMP450i

Just making sure it was pointed out =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > He said "power it" :P > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Josh Luthman >

Re: [AFMUG] 802.3at Switch for PMP450i

> Mikrotik rb2011 + Packetflux gig SyncInjector What I am currently using. Takes up to much space for this site. Just remembered, standard switch won't output sync, brain took Friday off. Does the "Cambium 1091HH" support 48 and 24 volt gear? Cannot find it on Cambium website. Awful

Re: [AFMUG] 802.3at Switch for PMP450i

For clarification: 1090CKHH is CMM4 in the outdoor cabinet with included EtherWAN switch 1091HH is the same CMM4 in the outdoor cabinet, but without the switch 1092HH is the rackmount version (i.e. no cabinet) of the CMM4, also without the switch All of them can support both 56 and 30 VDC power

Re: [AFMUG] 802.3at Switch for PMP450i

A cambium rackmount cmm4 takes up more space than two syncinjectors on a shelf, and is only 10/100 On Jun 3, 2016 2:01 PM, "Matt" wrote: > > Mikrotik rb2011 + Packetflux gig SyncInjector > > What I am currently using. Takes up to much space for this site. > > Just

Re: [AFMUG] 802.3at Switch for PMP450i

Sure looks like it, but the 1091HH does not have a switch https://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/CMM4_Specs.pdf Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Matt wrote: > >

Re: [AFMUG] SwOS FYI

If you just need a media converter, either a Ubiquiti Fiber-POE (minus the POE part), or MikroTik media converter would probably be fine. In addition to the 260GS, the EdgeRouter X SFP can also have all ports put in switch mode, and seems to work fine with generics and juniper coded SFP modules.

Re: [AFMUG] Generator runtime on very light loads

The eu2000 oil change interval is 100 hours. I plan to run a good synthetic and change at twice that, it would be interesting to send some oil out for analysis to verify. It does have a low oil shutoff to prevent it running out. On Jun 3, 2016 3:51 PM, "Brian Webster"

Re: [AFMUG] SwOS FYI

I'll try 1.16 and see if that works. The only change from 1.13 to 1.14 was for the GSP model, at least according to the change log. On Friday, June 3, 2016, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > I have hundreds. > > > > They work great, very low failure rate, and most of that is with

Re: [AFMUG] SwOS FYI

Huh? Er x SFP is gig. Fiber-POE is gig. On Jun 3, 2016 5:36 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" wrote: > Not for 1000Mbps. > > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds > Sent: Friday, June 3, 2016 4:33 PM > To: af@afmug.com >

Re: [AFMUG] SwOS FYI

Have you seen any other SFP issues with the RB260GS? I remember Sterling said that very rarely there were some units that, after fluctuations in the power source, didn't detect the SFP unless they were rebooted or the SFP was reinserted. I'm trying to get an idea of their reliability for use as

Re: [AFMUG] SwOS FYI

Not for 1000Mbps. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Friday, June 3, 2016 4:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SwOS FYI If you just need a media converter, either a Ubiquiti Fiber-POE (minus the POE part), or MikroTik

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

Double Lolz On Jun 2, 2016 10:30 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > UBNT is supposed to be coming out with PRISM-AC on 2.4. Will be > interesting to see how it does. > On Jun 2, 2016 4:49 PM, "Josh Luthman" > wrote: > >> Your welcome, I guess? =) >>

Re: [AFMUG] Cord is cut

ESPN? Josh Luthman wrote: Monthly subscription? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 4, 2016 12:17 AM, "Chuck McCown" > wrote: Got my Tivo Roamio going. I get 51 OTA channels.

Re: [AFMUG] SwOS FYI

Oh, sorry, thought you were talking about the old UBNT part that was 100Mbps only. I guess they never made that one public, or it died a short death. I still have a couple… Also I was wrong on the FTC device I guess, it does GigE too. I still wish Mikrotik/Routerboard would make the FTC larger

Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ Consumer Wireless Router

I just find it frustrating that the top of the line ASUS/Netgear/DLINK wireless AC routers can actually do close to 1000Mbps wireless and have 4 GigE ports, but are limited to 1 GigE internet port. Is there a UBNT or other wireless AC super system that can dual transport the wireless to two

Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ Consumer Wireless Router

I'm quite confused. Can you explain exactly what you want to do, and in your opinion, where the problem lies? On Jun 3, 2016 11:42 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" wrote: > I just find it frustrating that the top of the line ASUS/Netgear/DLINK > wireless AC routers can actually do

[AFMUG] SFP+ Consumer Wireless Router

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there isn't any high end consumer wireless router with an SFP+ WAN/Internet port out there yet, right?

Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ Consumer Wireless Router

No but there is an APC GPON unit. -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 9:54 PM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: [AFMUG] SFP+ Consumer Wireless Router Correct me if I'm wrong, but there isn't any high end consumer wireless router with an SFP+ WAN/Internet

[AFMUG] Cord is cut

Got my Tivo Roamio going. I get 51 OTA channels. Lots of features, still learning my way around. Youtube and Hulu seem to be better quality images than on the playstation.

Re: [AFMUG] Cord is cut

Monthly subscription? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 4, 2016 12:17 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Got my Tivo Roamio going. I get 51 OTA channels. Lots of features, still > learning my way around. > Youtube

Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ Consumer Wireless Router

I've got some Telco systems 4x10 on order, but these are for redundant 10G customers of ours. A consumer router with 10G? Not quite. On Jun 3, 2016 10:54 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" wrote: > Correct me if I'm wrong, but there isn't any high end consumer wireless > router with

Re: [AFMUG] Cord is cut

Tivo has a monthly subscription for the channels. Channel Master does not. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 12:39 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: > ESPN? > > Josh Luthman wrote: > >> >>

Re: [AFMUG] Cord is cut

Eww. To each their own I guess On Jun 3, 2016 11:39 PM, "Jay Weekley" wrote: > ESPN? > > Josh Luthman wrote: > >> >> Monthly subscription? >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Jun

[AFMUG] OT: Bought a new printer cable

My HP LaserJet is now hovering 4" above the tablet and emitting bolts of blue lightning. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/audioquest-16-4-usb-a-to-usb-b-cable-black-gray/4022646.p?id=1218449994838=4022646

Re: [AFMUG] SwOS FYI

The only trouble I've had otherwise with SFPs was trying to use Occam compatible optics in the rb260gs. Those had to be inserted or reinserted when the unit was on or they wouldn't function. Luckily I only had a few of those. On Friday, June 3, 2016, Colin Stanners wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] Electronics question

Yes. You can do this. Just look at the ratings of the relay in question. ryan On 6/3/16 9:43 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: Can I use the DC relay in a site monitor base unit to trigger an AC relay? Can I use the relay in a site monitor to directly switch an AC load? What I want to do is trick the

Re: [AFMUG] Electronics question

Of course you could always use the relay to run a relay. Use 24vdc in the SiteMonitor (or whatever voltage you have) to activate/deactivate the relay inline with the sensor. bp On 6/3/2016 11:15 AM, George Skorup wrote: If you're talking about a Generac single

[AFMUG] Generator runtime on very light loads

Generac tech support could not answer this question for me: What will my fuel consumption be a 1% load. I am looking at a 16kw Generac Guardian. Which has a 992cc engine and the spec sheet says will be consuming 1.99gal/hour of propane at 50% load. I'll be at 1% load and want to know how

Re: [AFMUG] Netonix Temps

Seen that. Your set up of netonix in enclosure. On Jun 3, 2016 6:28 AM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: > Of what? My hands melting against my car door handle? > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Friday, June

Re: [AFMUG] Netonix Temps

I’ll get some next time we are out there. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, June 3, 2016 5:50 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix Temps Seen that. Your set up of netonix in enclosure. On Jun 3, 2016 6:28 AM, "Rory Conaway"

Re: [AFMUG] telephone pole climbing spikes

We recently put some of these in, I think every 18" on a 60' (AGL) pole and it took hours. Lots of time drilling. If the pole company will pre-drill them for you at a reasonable price, then pay them to do it. -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" To:

Re: [AFMUG] Squirrel proofing

They are also called cable glands or strain relief... grainger and electrical houses carry them... http://m.platt.com/platt-electric-supply/Cable-Glands-Metallic-Gland-Brass/Mencom/MCG-M12/Products.aspx?pid=635749 On Jun 3, 2016 8:03 AM, "David" wrote: > Core grips? > got a

Re: [AFMUG] Generator runtime on very light loads

Hmmm...good point. I know a guy I can ask. -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 6/3/2016 10:00:35 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Generator runtime on very light loads Good question. Not much. I had lots of units that would start and run 15

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

We have removed ANY 2.4 on our network and let it be the indoor useful IOT access for all. Urban areas is just to high for 2.4 in general. 3.65 pmp450 has brought us mucho success in this area and the newest 900 450i rocks. I just need those KP higher gain cpe Ant to get a little deeper

Re: [AFMUG] Netonix Temps

Coolpun intended On Jun 3, 2016 7:10 AM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: > I’ll get some next time we are out there. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Friday, June 3, 2016 5:50 AM > *To:* Animal Farm >

Re: [AFMUG] Generator runtime on very light loads

Good question. Not much. I had lots of units that would start and run 15 minutes each week. There was almost zero fuel cost each year unless there had been some power outages. I think you would have to find someone willing to run their unit and measure the fuel consumption to get a good

Re: [AFMUG] Squirrel proofing

Core grips? got a link to this? thanks Dave On 06/02/2016 11:08 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Try core grips they come in different sizes On Jun 2, 2016 9:31 AM, "David" > wrote: We have either HDPFE conduit or Superior Essex

Re: [AFMUG] Generator runtime on very light loads

In retrospect, these are stupid questions. I wanted the Generac anyway to use for a standby generator at one site, but at a different site I have a temporary need to run on generator for about a month while I wait for the power company to hook up our new service...there's only about a 200

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

Which and what type of urban environment? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "David" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, June 3, 2016 9:17:12 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

I would love to be able to ditch 2.4ghz, but unfortunately that just isn't an option at this point. 900mhz and 3.65ghz gear that works is just too expensive for low density towers. On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 9:29 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Which and what type of urban environment?