Re: [AFMUG] PTP650, PTP550, NLOS

2018-04-25 Thread Steve Jones
They claim nLOS not NLOS. To cambium, 1/16 fresnel impact is nLOS On Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 5:52 PM Christopher Gray wrote: > I'm definitely not expecting Cambium to go through a forest in 5 GHz... > but they specifically claim NLOS capability. > > I have several NLOS 5

Re: [AFMUG] After Hours Tech Support

2018-04-25 Thread Steve Jones
Odd your customers never have questions unrelated to your service hoppes. Anyhow in real life, what alternatives are there to serverplus that are similar in scope and cost? Funny this thread showed up considering was coming here to ask the specific question. OP, if youre looking for some input

Re: [AFMUG] OT Ham radio GoBox build

2018-04-25 Thread Ryan McAfee
as a bit bulky so I wanted >> to trim down the size a bit. The main purpose of the build is a crossband >> repeater. http://imgur.com/gallery/n67MNYS >> -- next part -- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://afmug.com/pipermail/af/attachments/20180425/68178fe4/attachment-0001.html> >

Re: [AFMUG] Alignment tips for AF11Fx

2018-04-25 Thread Mathew Howard
Nothing at all on the other side, or just weak? If it's not showing anything at all, it must not actually be linking, in which case it could be something configured wrong... like maybe a type in the key, or one of the frequencies is entered wrong. If all the config matches, the first thing I'd

Re: [AFMUG] After Hours Tech Support

2018-04-25 Thread Matt Hoppes
We don’t. We keep the network and customers running well enough there really aren’t many support calls in general - let alone at night. > On Apr 25, 2018, at 19:39, Matt wrote: > > How or what do you pay an employee to either answer phone calls or > return

Re: [AFMUG] OT Ham radio GoBox build

2018-04-25 Thread Jon Lee
Crystals? I'm trying to figure out where these go?!?!  I have 2 in my collection. http://imgur.com/gallery/U7HyraD On Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 12:06 PM wrote: > Where do you plug in the crystals? > > *From:* Adair Winter > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 25, 2018 12:56 PM > *To:*

Re: [AFMUG] After Hours Tech Support

2018-04-25 Thread Darin Steffl
We don't. We pay serverplus $250 per month minimum for "X" amount of calls for 24/7 tech support when our office is closed. It works fine most of the time and the customer gets to talk to someone. We don't return calls until normal business hours again. Sometimes I'll text someone if I think

Re: [AFMUG] Alignment tips for AF11Fx

2018-04-25 Thread Jon Langeler
We’ve had issues also. We always tested on the bench after that just to remove the doubts... Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Apr 25, 2018, at 7:44 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > > so we got a -53dBm on one end and nothing on the other end? aligned and

Re: [AFMUG] Alignment tips for AF11Fx

2018-04-25 Thread Jaime Solorza
so we got a -53dBm on one end and nothing on the other end? aligned and realignedhaving the other side check duplexor is 4 and 2 on their side because its 2 and 4 on my side i downloaded the manual...guess I will have to read it... this is a 9.3 mile linkI have aligned 11GHz up to 23

[AFMUG] After Hours Tech Support

2018-04-25 Thread Matt
How or what do you pay an employee to either answer phone calls or return voicemails after hours or on weekends?

Re: [AFMUG] PTP650, PTP550, NLOS

2018-04-25 Thread Christopher Gray
I'm definitely not expecting Cambium to go through a forest in 5 GHz... but they specifically claim NLOS capability. I have several NLOS 5 GHz links going through leaves at very short ranges that are relatively stable (all ePMP). I'm just curious about what makes them claim their NLOS is better.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Ham radio GoBox build

2018-04-25 Thread Brian Webster
Nice go kit! Neat and to the point. Chuck there has been a lot of activity around the new Icom IC-7300, SDR, touch screen, nice panadapter display without the computer. https://www.gigaparts.com/icom-ic-7300.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIwc6I4K7W2gIVkoeyCh1TqwWxEAAYASAAEgJz0fD_BwE Thank

Re: [AFMUG] PTP650, PTP550, NLOS

2018-04-25 Thread Ryan Ray
http://www.advantec.it/wp-content/uploads/cambium/pdf/cambium_networks_PTP550_Advantec.pdf On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 1:58 PM, Joe Novak wrote: > I've definitely done some stupid things with PTP 5ghz. With in a few > hundred foot I may or may not have a few micro-pops humming

Re: [AFMUG] PTP650, PTP550, NLOS

2018-04-25 Thread Joe Novak
I've definitely done some stupid things with PTP 5ghz. With in a few hundred foot I may or may not have a few micro-pops humming along with NLOS shots. It's definitely not a predictable layout though, you just have to test it. On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 3:52 PM, Steve Jones

Re: [AFMUG] PTP650, PTP550, NLOS

2018-04-25 Thread Steve Jones
No ptp650 magic sauce like you may be expecting. It performs exactly as ptp3/500 did in regard to that. Like anything you can get "nLOS" but you pay for it with capacity/reliability turning dual payload off gets you "sauce" at the expense of half your capacity, and IIRC theres another setting

Re: [AFMUG] PTP650, PTP550, NLOS

2018-04-25 Thread C Stanners
Orthogon-based PTP650/670 have something like 256/512 subcarriers which helps NLOS. I think AF5X has 1 and AF5XHD has 8 subcarriers? On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 3:10 PM, Christopher Gray < cg...@graytechsoftware.com> wrote: > I've been told the PTP650 (and 670) have some sort of magic that helps >

Re: [AFMUG] PTP650, PTP550, NLOS

2018-04-25 Thread Josh Baird
NLOS "magic" in 5ghz? Don't hold your breath, man. On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Christopher Gray < cg...@graytechsoftware.com> wrote: > I've been told the PTP650 (and 670) have some sort of magic that helps > with NLOS links. I've always assume this was a result of the custom > chipset. Do

[AFMUG] PTP650, PTP550, NLOS

2018-04-25 Thread Christopher Gray
I've been told the PTP650 (and 670) have some sort of magic that helps with NLOS links. I've always assume this was a result of the custom chipset. Do these radios actually perform better than others in similar signal NLOS environments? The PTP550 is based on a WiFi chipset... does it have any of

Re: [AFMUG] OT Ham radio GoBox build

2018-04-25 Thread chuck
Where do you plug in the crystals? From: Adair Winter Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 12:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Ham radio GoBox build FT-991a On Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 1:48 PM wrote: I wish I had a nice HF rig... From: Ben Royer Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Ham radio GoBox build

2018-04-25 Thread Adair Winter
FT-991a On Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 1:48 PM wrote: > I wish I had a nice HF rig... > > *From:* Ben Royer > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 25, 2018 12:13 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Ham radio GoBox build > > That’s BAD-A fellow HAM myself N9RYR > > Good job

Re: [AFMUG] OT Ham radio GoBox build

2018-04-25 Thread chuck
I wish I had a nice HF rig... From: Ben Royer Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 12:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Ham radio GoBox build That’s BAD-A fellow HAM myself N9RYR Good job and 73 Thank you, Ben Royer, Operations Manager Royell Communications, Inc. 217-965-3699

Re: [AFMUG] OT Ham radio GoBox build

2018-04-25 Thread Ben Royer
That’s BAD-A fellow HAM myself N9RYR Good job and 73 Thank you, Ben Royer, Operations Manager Royell Communications, Inc. 217-965-3699 www.royell.net From: Jon Lee Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 11:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT Ham radio GoBox build Hey guys just wanted

Re: [AFMUG] OT Ham radio GoBox build

2018-04-25 Thread Jaime Solorza
Impressive Jaime Solorza On Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 10:47 AM Jon Lee wrote: > Hey guys just wanted to share a fun project I finished up yesterday. I > volunteer with ARES RACES in my county here in AZ. Fire season is here and > we are already under a burn ban. My last

[AFMUG] OT Ham radio GoBox build

2018-04-25 Thread Jon Lee
Hey guys just wanted to share a fun project I finished up yesterday. I volunteer with ARES RACES in my county here in AZ. Fire season is here and we are already under a burn ban. My last build was a bit bulky so I wanted to trim down the size a bit. The main purpose of the build is a crossband

Re: [AFMUG] SunSight MW15

2018-04-25 Thread Robert
I would call that long distance shooting :) On 4/25/18 8:05 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: Eh... There are 6400mils in a circle, compared to 360 degrees. Much more accurate. Signed, a former artillery/mortar/CAS guy On Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 9:55 AM Robert

Re: [AFMUG] SunSight MW15

2018-04-25 Thread Mathew Howard
That's a good point. If you can get that accurate on the elevation, it should be easy to find the main lobe. On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 9:53 AM, wrote: > Nice thing is that you can get elevation to a tent of a degree or better > on the cheap. Accurate azimuth is the hard one. >

Re: [AFMUG] SunSight MW15

2018-04-25 Thread castarritt
I'm usually at 7.1 mils elevation for 1,000 yards. On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 9:55 AM, Robert wrote: > Long distance shooting talk... > > On 4/25/18 7:05 AM, castarritt wrote: > >> 5 milliradian would be ~0.3° >> >> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 6:24 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] SunSight MW15

2018-04-25 Thread Josh Reynolds
Eh... There are 6400mils in a circle, compared to 360 degrees. Much more accurate. Signed, a former artillery/mortar/CAS guy On Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 9:55 AM Robert wrote: > Long distance shooting talk... > > On 4/25/18 7:05 AM, castarritt wrote: > > 5 milliradian would

Re: [AFMUG] SunSight MW15

2018-04-25 Thread Robert
Long distance shooting talk... On 4/25/18 7:05 AM, castarritt wrote: 5 milliradian would be ~0.3° On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 6:24 PM, > wrote: Not huge if you consider most of the main lobes are that wide or wider, so just as long as you can get

Re: [AFMUG] SunSight MW15

2018-04-25 Thread chuck
Nice thing is that you can get elevation to a tent of a degree or better on the cheap. Accurate azimuth is the hard one. So of you had a tenth of a degree on elevation and “close enough” on azimuth you could always find the main lobe. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018

Re: [AFMUG] SunSight MW15

2018-04-25 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, 1 degree would certainly be useful. We recently put up a couple of 80ghz links, that have something like a 0.4 degree main lobe... the hard part is getting close enough to be sure you're not in a side lobe - once you get there, it's easy enough to aim with signal levels, and 1 degree is

Re: [AFMUG] SunSight MW15

2018-04-25 Thread chuck
I quit thinking in radians when I left college. From: castarritt Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 8:05 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SunSight MW15 5 milliradian would be ~0.3° On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 6:24 PM, wrote: Not huge if you consider most of the main

Re: [AFMUG] SunSight MW15

2018-04-25 Thread castarritt
5 milliradian would be ~0.3° On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 6:24 PM, wrote: > Not huge if you consider most of the main lobes are that wide or wider, so > just as long as you can get it close enough to tweak with signal levels, > that is all you need. > > If you are thinking of a set

Re: [AFMUG] FCC USF and 499 Filing

2018-04-25 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Because you haven’t convinced them not to, or it crosses state lines. Mark > On Apr 24, 2018, at 11:20 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > > Then why is my upstream provider charging me USF fee on my broadband only > connection? > > From: Af On Behalf

Re: [AFMUG] FCC USF and 499 Filing

2018-04-25 Thread Matt Hoppes
Does your data circuit cross state lines? Comcast tried to sell me an interstate circuit. I had to nip that on the quote. > On Apr 24, 2018, at 23:20, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > > Then why is my upstream provider charging me USF fee on my broadband only > connection? >