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Awaiting the arrival of our new home. Thanks for the help for the past 5 years Pauldont go anywhere:) Glad you are smiling a little more of these days Chuck :) Sent from my smartphone - Reply message - From: "Jason McKemie" To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: [AFMUG] List Date: Wed,

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There are more pros: Superman A lot of fun A bunch of those cons are also pros. On Wednesday, June 6, 2018, Chuck McCown wrote: > To drink or not to drink. Pros and cons > Pros > Buzz > > Cons > Dick stops working, even the next day > Ugly women look good to you > You hit on ugly women > You

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Dobrynochi comrades Jaime Solorza On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 8:47 PM Steve Jones wrote: > Where'd you get my resume? You been trolling my linkdn? > > On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 8:22 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > >> To drink or not to drink. Pros and cons >> Pros >> Buzz >> >> Cons >> Dick stops working, even

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Where'd you get my resume? You been trolling my linkdn? On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 8:22 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > To drink or not to drink. Pros and cons > Pros > Buzz > > Cons > Dick stops working, even the next day > Ugly women look good to you > You hit on ugly women > You can fu*k up your ability

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To drink or not to drink. Pros and cons Pros Buzz Cons Dick stops working, even the next day Ugly women look good to you You hit on ugly women You can fu*k up your ability to get insurance or a drivers license Hangovers Puke mouth Kissing a puke mouth Beer goggles Beer gut Puking Cleaning up

Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 25

In reading this citation there are two phrases which I think get to the meat of what the person writing the citation intended: Item 1: "The employer did not *require* a competent person to inspect." Item 2: "...the employer did not *ensure* complete personal fall arrest systems were properly

Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 25

Yeah, just like school "cooperate and graduate" never paid to correct the error of the teacher. -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 4:58 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 25 On 6/6/18 9:10 AM, David Sovereen wrote: I spoke with the OSHA

Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 25

I just looked it up on Wikipedia, right in the definition of "right" there is a cross reference to OSHA On 06/06/2018 03:58 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 6/6/18 9:10 AM, David Sovereen wrote: I spoke with the OSHA representative handling our matter on Friday. He tells me that Rohn 25s have

Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 25

On 6/6/18 9:10 AM, David Sovereen wrote: I spoke with the OSHA representative handling our matter on Friday.  He tells me that Rohn 25s have not been tested by the manufacturer to support 5,000 lbs and therefore are not a suitable anchor point for securing oneself.  He says all work on Rohn

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I read "Do I need to move my cot " as Do I need to move my car... City life. On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 6:03 PM, Dave wrote: > Wait something is changing... > Do I need to move my cot :) > > > > On 06/06/2018 04:40 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > > i havent been drinking, so its ok > thats a lie though

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

Mimosa B5c can pull 500Mbps to 1Gbps on that type of link depending on how much spectrum you want to use. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 2:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed Well, that explains

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Wait something is changing...  Do I need to move my cot :) On 06/06/2018 04:40 PM, Steve Jones wrote: i havent been drinking, so its ok thats a lie though i have been drinking and its not ok On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Jason McKemie > wrote:

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i havent been drinking, so its ok thats a lie though i have been drinking and its not ok On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > Good to hear, I'm having withdrawals. > > > On Wednesday, June 6, 2018, wrote: > >> I am in the process of moving

Re: [AFMUG] changes to this list

is it the russians we are moving it to? Theyre pretty good at this interwebs stuff On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:09 PM, Josh Baird wrote: > I think this is a good move. > > On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 2:08 PM, wrote: > >> Problems. It is on AWS. Who knows. >> >> Worked great for almost 5 years. >> >>

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

Well, that explains everything. From: Chris Fabien Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 3:28 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed 3ft... Jirous on one side and one of the WB Optic on the other actually! On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 5:17 PM wrote: Wow, what size dishes? From:

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

3ft... Jirous on one side and one of the WB Optic on the other actually! On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 5:17 PM wrote: > Wow, what size dishes? > > *From:* Chris Fabien > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 3:16 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed > > Chuck we just did a 13 mile

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Mapping - 2018

I just realized that last message was more a rambling trip through nostalgia versus anything useful for the OP or others looking at this software. GIS software in general is probably very well suited to fiber mapping and most of it very database driven. Oil, Forestry, Mining all make use of this

Re: [AFMUG] 12V 8-10A wall mount battery backup

Another option might be to get a (cheap) solar charge controller. Instead of a solar panel input, just put a DC power supply on it and add a battery? On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:03 PM Carl Peterson wrote: > Thanks Mark, > > It looks like all the 12V ones there are 2-3A > > Alpha makes

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

Wow, what size dishes? From: Chris Fabien Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 3:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed Chuck we just did a 13 mile link using AF5XHD, getting about 350mbps in both directions using 60mhz and 50/50 ratio. On Jun 6, 2018 2:42 PM, "Mathew Howard"

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

Chuck we just did a 13 mile link using AF5XHD, getting about 350mbps in both directions using 60mhz and 50/50 ratio. On Jun 6, 2018 2:42 PM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: Yeah, if you go with 3' dishes you might be getting close to $1500 in cost, but that'll easily cover it with 2 footers. The only

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Mapping - 2018

You know I have to say, I have not given QGIS a fair shake in over 10 years. I gave it a download last night and it's not the weak, completely unfinished, seemingly dead piece of open source software I played with back in 2005/2006. Around that time, as part of a part-time job/college

Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 25

I emailed Rohn back again because I wanted to get clarification of what the anchor point was that was being tested, as the picture was very hard to see. He replied with this: > From: Tim Rohn > Subject: RE: 25G Anchor Point Test > Date: June 6, 2018 at 4:42:42 PM EDT > To: David Sovereen >

[AFMUG] Bicomm

Anyone using Bicom Systems for their VoIP customers or office? -Kevin

Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 25

+1000 From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 1:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 25 First, I would think Rohn would have a legitimate "3rd party" interest in your citation. I would definitely see if they would like to be involved. I think you can still be contrite

Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 25

First, I would think Rohn would have a legitimate "3rd party" interest in your citation. I would definitely see if they would like to be involved. I think you can still be contrite and interested in correcting your procedures while searching for the truth and the right way to do things. Probably

Re: [AFMUG] from Paul - List hosting

Unfortunately for both wives and business partners, closest is the first suspect... On 06/06/2018 12:10 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Paul McCall stepped up to help me out 5 years ago when a group of former business associates were hell bent on causing me as much grief as possible. I will

Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 25

Oh, yeah, position lanyard, not the shock arrest lanyard. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 12:45 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 25 I'm assuming he means you need to have a shorter lanyard than normal well, a position lanyard shouldn't be stretching anyway, should

Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 25

Sorry to hear about your son.. True tragic.. I sure hope OSHA doesn't read this list... On 06/06/2018 09:49 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: First, let me say that I am so sorry that your employee caused so much grief for all involved. I am rabid about seat belt use. I lost a son, who was wearing

[AFMUG] from Paul - List hosting

Hi Everyone, I wanted to jump in and let everyone know that we apologize that we are no longer able to stay on top of the Amazon instance associated with the list. Amazon has been great as a platform, it really has worked well, all up to the point where the hackers have caused us more grief

Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 25

I'm assuming he means you need to have a shorter lanyard than normal well, a position lanyard shouldn't be stretching anyway, should it? On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:39 PM, wrote: > Aren’t most lanyards designed to stretch out to the 6 foot mark when > falling? In other words, even if you had

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

Yeah, if you go with 3' dishes you might be getting close to $1500 in cost, but that'll easily cover it with 2 footers. The only parts involved are going to be the dishes and the radios, so it's pretty simple to price... well, I suppose mounts and surge suppressors too, but I assume you know

Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 25

Aren’t most lanyards designed to stretch out to the 6 foot mark when falling? In other words, even if you had it positioned right in front of your face, you will still drop 6 feet, right? From: Sean Heskett Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 12:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 25

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Mapping - 2018

Mark, I totally agree. I do have it networked but only I can make the changes. I see it still working for us for a while but do not get me wrong, I would like actual software. I think I might do a demo of patchmanager and check it out. But in all honesty I do not think it takes me more time

Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 25

Sorry to both of you for your loss. I have physically stopped guys from climbing without gear. But if someone is hell bent to be stupid not much you can do. Jaime Solorza On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 10:49 AM wrote: > First, let me say that I am so sorry that your employee caused so much > grief for

Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 25

I'm so sorry to hear about your loss. ROHN 25 is **not** compliant for the 5,000lb drop from 6' but it is from 3' so you always have to have a 3' position lanyard holding you, even while you climb. I would contact CITCA (or we use https://www.safetyoneinc.com ) or any other trainer to give you

Re: [AFMUG] another test

received @ 10:26am MDT 6/6/2018 (1 min after you sent it) -sean On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:26 AM, Justin Marshall wrote: > Testing, sent @ 12:25pm EDT 6/6/2018 > > >

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Mapping - 2018

Didn't Donny Smith have a hosted offering in this arena? On Wednesday, June 6, 2018, wrote: > I’ll let Sterling learn it and then hopefully he can teach me... > > *From:* Brian Webster > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 11:32 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Mapping - 2018

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

Thanks, that is what I am looking for. Actually not sure yet what up down ratio the customer will be buying yet. If I tell the owners $1500 for parts then I should be good to go? From: Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 11:47 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed That's

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Good to hear, I'm having withdrawals. On Wednesday, June 6, 2018, wrote: > I am in the process of moving it. AWS or whatever is running on the AWS > is getting progressively more and more flakey. So, I have put it off long > enough. Domain will move to GoDaddy and the list will move to >

Re: [AFMUG] changes to this list

I think this is a good move. On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 2:08 PM, wrote: > Problems. It is on AWS. Who knows. > > Worked great for almost 5 years. > > But since it is just maintenance by a committee of volunteers, I figured > it best to just move it over to folks that specialize in running lists

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Problems. It is on AWS. Who knows. Worked great for almost 5 years. But since it is just maintenance by a committee of volunteers, I figured it best to just move it over to folks that specialize in running lists for others. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 12:04 PM

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Amazon problems? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:36 PM, wrote: > I think we will be able to do this without any re-subscribing. > -Original Message- From: Christopher Tyler Sent: Wednesday, June >

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

That's because airfibers use a fixed up/down ratio (75/25, in this case). If you needed 50/50, this link would only be get you somewhere around 140Mbps each way. Signal is just a little too low to get 8X (256qam) on this case, but I probably could if I changed them to the new HD version, since

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Mapping - 2018

I’ll let Sterling learn it and then hopefully he can teach me... From: Brian Webster Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 11:32 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Mapping - 2018 Sterling, The QGIS software is well suited for what you want and you can spin up an instance

Re: [AFMUG] changes to this list

I think we will be able to do this without any re-subscribing. -Original Message- From: Christopher Tyler Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 11:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] changes to this list Are you moving the accounts or will we need to subscribe again? --

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Mapping - 2018

Sterling, The QGIS software is well suited for what you want and you can spin up an instance of PostgreSQL/PostGIS database for all the data and have the mapping interface directly to the database and without too much other work the mapping can be web enabled such that the data

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Are you moving the accounts or will we need to subscribe again? -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 12:00:10 PM Subject: [AFMUG] changes

Re: [AFMUG] 12V 8-10A wall mount battery backup

Thanks Mark, It looks like all the 12V ones there are 2-3A Alpha makes MPS12-100-8H and MPS12-100-GD which are 7.5A. I've asked P for quotes... The Mean well AD-155A might work but then I would need to build it into an enclosure with a battery and I'm trying for easy. On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at

[AFMUG] changes to this list

Once it is up and running, to post will most likely be a...@af.afmug.com They need a sub domain.

Re: [AFMUG] 12V 8-10A wall mount battery backup

Title: Re: [AFMUG] 12V 8-10A wall mount battery backup Carl, What about the cyberpower FTTX battery backup units? https://www.cyberpowersystems.com/products/fttx/ We've also looked into these before https://www.powertecsolutions.net/solutions/#psi-micro-ups-series I saw a BBU built into a

Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 25

First, let me say that I am so sorry that your employee caused so much grief for all involved. I am rabid about seat belt use. I lost a son, who was wearing a seatbelt in a wreck. My wife was driving. She was saved by her seat belt so I am thankful for that. I was an EMT for a while and

[AFMUG] another test

Testing, sent @ 12:25pm EDT 6/6/2018

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

Is the 65 Mbps a limitation of the link or system settings or ?? From: Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:16 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed Here's an example of a 25km AF-5x link using 2' dishes. I'd probably use AF-5xHD radios these days, and I'd use the airFiber

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

Excellent, thanks for the advice. What does a whole system cost? From: Darin Steffl Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:15 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed First, I'd recommend the new AF5XHD which is a huge upgrade over the AF5x. You can then use that radio with

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I am in the process of moving it. AWS or whatever is running on the AWS is getting progressively more and more flakey. So, I have put it off long enough. Domain will move to GoDaddy and the list will move to mailmanhost.com Will probably take a few days. From: Jason McKemie Sent:

[AFMUG] 12V 8-10A wall mount battery backup

I'm looking for a 12V 8-10A power supply and battery backup for Calix E3s. Something that I could just mount to the telco board in a MDU. Doesn't need a whole lot of battery but an hour or so would be nice. Anyone have anything that they like?

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

We installed AF5 16 mile link with 34dB dishes to provide 100Mbps to hospital... averages 92 to 97MBps... Jaime Solorza On Tue, Jun 5, 2018, 11:44 AM Chuck McCown wrote: > Which is better, Rocket 5AC + RocketDish LW > or > AF5X + AF-5G34-S45 > > ? > > Or some other brand. Hauling out PTP to a

Re: [AFMUG] OT TV Show

It’s like adult children of alcoholics therapy live in TV! ryan -- D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc broadband | telco | colo | communities PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294 425-939-0047 > On Jun 1, 2018, at 23:09, Chuck McCown wrote: > > American Chopper is back. Mondays. Watched the first two

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

I wouldn’t go non-HD on the AF at this point. last I checked AF is only fixed ratio but might be fine. But speeds using 5AC won’t be slow comparatively. Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Jun 5, 2018, at 1:43 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Which is better, Rocket 5AC + RocketDish LW

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Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

Here's an example of a 25km AF-5x link using 2' dishes. I'd probably use AF-5xHD radios these days, and I'd use the airFiber dishes (the only difference between them and the RocketDish LW is that they're slant vs H/V). On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Which is better,

Re: [AFMUG] iRedmail

I am its ok for basic email server.   -Original Message- > From: Matt > To: af@afmug.com > Date: 06/05/18 01:49 > Subject: [AFMUG] iRedmail > > Anyone using iRedmail for an email server?  How is it working for you?

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Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

First, I'd recommend the new AF5XHD which is a huge upgrade over the AF5x. You can then use that radio with either the 30db or 34db dish you listed. At 15 miles, I would recommend the 34db dish as that is quite the long haul. If the customer is paying any decent amount of money, you'll recoup

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

Probably the AF On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Which is better, Rocket 5AC + RocketDish LW > or > AF5X + AF-5G34-S45 > > ? > > Or some other brand. Hauling out PTP to a customer. Like to keep the > bandwidth up but they are not currently asking for more than 100 Mbps.

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

I am running Mimosa b5c on a RD34 38km 2x40mhz Jason Wilson Remotely Located Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. 530-651-1736 530-748-9608 Cell www.remotelylocated.com On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 10:43 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Which is better, Rocket 5AC + RocketDish LW > or

[AFMUG] Are we dead again?

Did the list die again? I thought the whole point of moving to the amazon cloud crap was that it was reliable and had support...

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Mapping - 2018

I like the systems that allow you to click on a fiber and have it open a detail report of what the strands are being used for. Same with with splice cases, some systems can show what is spliced to what. From: Dennis Burgess Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 11:07 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Mapping - 2018

Sounds interesting. What I really want, if it exists, is a full layer system. Such that I can enter my GIS info for conduit and conduit capacity and used capacity on the physical level, then the fiber type/count in each section by geo on top of that, then the splice points/case map and power

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Mapping - 2018

What kind of costs are we talking about? We’ve got lines on GE and hand drawn maps and spreadsheets of info along with stuff in several peoples heads that need to be put into a system soon. And limited time/budget to allocate to this, so it has to be an awesome intuitive product with great

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Mapping - 2018

Cost? Looks like the list may have come back again... From: Leroy Koglin Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 10:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Mapping - 2018 We started using VETROFiberMap about 6 months ago. Very happy with them. http://vetrofibermap.com/ On 6/1/2018 4:34 PM,

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Is this list just done? Seems to be off as much as on anymore. Unless everyone is just outside as opposed to in front of a computer like me.