Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

2016-11-08 Thread George Skorup
, November 8, 2016 12:08 PM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas Yes, I'm fairly certain there isn't any way to use only one polarity. I'm pretty sure that would have to be aggregate - but, since they are half duplex radios, it should be able to do the full 480 either direction

Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

2016-11-08 Thread Rory Conaway
To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas Yes, I'm fairly certain there isn't any way to use only one polarity. I'm pretty sure that would have to be aggregate - but, since they are half duplex radios, it should be able to do the full 480 either direction at any given time (just not both

Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

2016-11-08 Thread Mathew Howard
re available almost a year ago. Here is >>> another thing, the B11’s can get up to 480Mbps of real throughput in a >>> 40MHz channel. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rory >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]

Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

2016-11-08 Thread Eric Kuhnke
gt;> 40MHz channel. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds >> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 8, 2016 5:05 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B anten

Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

2016-11-08 Thread Sean Heskett
nother thing, the B11’s can get up to 480Mbps of real throughput in a > 40MHz channel. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 8, 2016 5:05 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [A

Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

2016-11-08 Thread Daniel White
dwh...@converge-tech.com> dwh...@converge-tech.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2016 8:05 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas H, can you clarify on minimum distance? I was not aware of a min distance

Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

2016-11-08 Thread Chuck McCown
...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 9:05 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas H, can you clarify on minimum distance? I was not aware of a min distance on 11 GHz, but if it’s only 5 km, maybe that was just never an issue. But I

Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

2016-11-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
operty of the > sovereign nation of (insert competitors name). > > *From:* Hardy, Tim > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 08, 2016 7:43 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas > > > At 11 GHz, 5 km is correct and paths under 5 kms can be coordin

Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

2016-11-08 Thread Hardy, Tim
Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 9:05 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas H, can you clarify on minimum distance? I was not aware of a min distance on 11 GHz, but if it's only 5 km, maybe that was just never an issue. But I thought min distance at 6

Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

2016-11-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
Thanks. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Hardy, Tim Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2016 8:44 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas At 11 GHz, 5 km is correct and paths under 5 kms can be coordinated and licensed as long as the EIRPs are restricted

Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

2016-11-08 Thread Chuck McCown
Yeah, the beamwidth too, forgot about that. And beamwidth is proportional to gain. Gain is proportional to dish diameter. From: Hardy, Tim Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 6:08 AM To: af@afmug.com ; af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas A couple of clarifications

Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

2016-11-08 Thread Chuck McCown
and then at the back side for F/B. From: Daniel White Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 5:28 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas Mostly answered… but I’ll take a stab: Class A vs Class B is about side-lobe suppression and F/B ratio. ETSI classes are the same way – and Class

Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

2016-11-08 Thread Bill Prince
a year ago. Here is another thing, the B11’s can get up to 480Mbps of real throughput in a 40MHz channel. Rory *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds *Sent:* Tuesday, November 8, 2016 5:05 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas Just

Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

2016-11-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
- *From: *"Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, November 7, 2016 10:51:11 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas +1 Inquiring minds. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 11/7/2016 8:47 PM, Sean Heskett wrot

Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

2016-11-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
White Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2016 6:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas Mostly answered… but I’ll take a stab: Class A vs Class B is about side-lobe suppression and F/B ratio. ETSI classes are the same way – and Class 4 antennas as Eric pointed out are a rare

Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

2016-11-08 Thread Hardy, Tim
gt;> Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2016 7:35 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas To: <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> And availability. The B11’s were available almost a year ago. Here is another thing, the B11’s can get up to 480Mbps of real throughput in a 40MHz channel

Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

2016-11-08 Thread Rory Conaway
: Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas Just $1,200+ more per end than an AF11x. You could buy a pair of Cisco SFPs for that savings! At list price! ;) (Yes, I understand business case vs product cost, just ribbing you a bit.] On Nov 8, 2016 6:00 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.

Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

2016-11-08 Thread Daniel White
2016 6:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas Does anyone make a 2 foot Class A antenna for 11 GHz? Or is 3 foot the minimum. Does anyone make a 1 foot Class A antenna for 18 GHz? Or is 2 foot the minimum. Is there a minimum distance for a 11 GHz link? Thanks

Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

2016-11-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
t; <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -------------- > *From: *"Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Monday, November 7, 2016 10:51:11 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas &

Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

2016-11-08 Thread Mike Hammett
The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 10:51:11 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas +1 Inquiring minds. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 11/7/2016 8:47

Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

2016-11-07 Thread Bill Prince
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Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

2016-11-07 Thread Sean Heskett
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Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

2016-11-07 Thread Eric Kuhnke
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Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

2016-11-07 Thread Mike Hammett
: "George Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 7:39:31 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas My finger clicked send before my brain. Interestingly, a RadioWaves HP2-11 has 60dB f/b ratio and is a Cat B. While a HP3-11 has 62d

Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

2016-11-07 Thread George Skorup
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Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

2016-11-07 Thread George Skorup
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Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

2016-11-07 Thread Mike Hammett
quot; <geo...@cbcast.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 7:08:11 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas IIRC, the classes are about front to back radio and sidelobe suppression. On 11/7/2016 6:45 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: 2.6' in 11 GHz. I forget who. ---

Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

2016-11-07 Thread George Skorup
--- *From: *"SmarterBroadband" <li...@smarterbroadband.com> *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, November 7, 2016 6:34:03 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Class A and B antennas Does anyone make a 2 foot Class A antenna for 11 GHz? Or is 3 foot the minimum. Does anyone make a 1 foot Class A a

Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

2016-11-07 Thread Mike Hammett
4:03 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas Does anyone make a 2 foot Class A antenna for 11 GHz? Or is 3 foot the minimum. Does anyone make a 1 foot Class A antenna for 18 GHz? Or is 2 foot the minimum. Is there a minimum distance for a 11 GHz link? Thanks Adam

[AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

2016-11-07 Thread SmarterBroadband
Does anyone make a 2 foot Class A antenna for 11 GHz? Or is 3 foot the minimum. Does anyone make a 1 foot Class A antenna for 18 GHz? Or is 2 foot the minimum. Is there a minimum distance for a 11 GHz link? Thanks Adam