> Say a 911 scenario, cell phone base tech will not work. Perhaps all
> wireless would be iffy. Good copper, in duct, under the streets works in
> almost all conditions.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Faisal Imtiaz
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 6:42 AM
> To: a
. Perhaps all
wireless would be iffy. Good copper, in duct, under the streets works in
almost all conditions.
-Original Message-
From: Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 6:42 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines
Correct... I am not sure what
attinen" <se...@rollernet.us>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 12:25:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines
> On 2/23/17 1:57 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>>
>>The Phone Line in the Elevator is not a Fire code
>> requirement(
af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines
On 2/23/17 1:57 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>
>The Phone Line in the Elevator is not a Fire code
> requirement(That is the fire alarm button is for).
Of all the alarm buttons I've ever pressed in elevators, they just ring
a be
On 2/23/17 1:57 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
The Phone Line in the Elevator is not a Fire code
requirement(That is the fire alarm button is for).
Of all the alarm buttons I've ever pressed in elevators, they just ring
a bell/alarm while pressed and that's it. Useful for Morse code
: Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:54:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines
> There are national fire codes that most jurisdictions adopt.
> Same as the NEC etc.
> Irrespective of actual ordinances, the alarm companies are the ones setting
> the
> standar
in defying them to prove that my ATA or ONT is not good enough and
> that their pots comes from the equivalent technology out in that box along
> the highway.
>
> I am flexible.
>
>
>
> From: Faisal Imtiaz
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 12:49 PM
> To: af
Imtiaz
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 12:49 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines
Chuck,
I have to disagree with you on part of your statement
Local ordinances vary from region to region
Fire Alarms ... are very particular, and require TWO POTS phone
EC.
> Not that I don't want you to sell another VoIP line, but do *you* want to be
> the
> one getting in trouble if someone is stuck in the elevator and can't call for
> help?
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Faisal Imtiaz" < fai...@snappytelecom.net &
: Thursday, February 23, 2017 11:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines
Most customers are within the boundary of a Local Exchange Carrier with a
Certificate of Public Convenience and Necessity issued by the state public
utilitity regulators. And, they are typically the COLR
d.
>
> -Original Message- From: Brett A Mansfield
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 10:25 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines
>
> They don't require a computer anymore.
>
> I have some customers with POTS lines that have had far
Fronter
Good Copper
Mutually Exclusive
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 10:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines
We have Frontier. They have no “good copper”. They have waterlogged cables,
and orange garbage bags on the side of the road where
@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines
They don't require a computer anymore.
I have some customers with POTS lines that have had far more issues than any
of my magicJack customers.
If you can get a POTS line for only $20/mo the that would be great, but this
customer didn't have
Hi,
They aren't asking for the correct type of line. They just need a basic,
metered use line from Centurylink.
Travis
On 2/23/2017 10:25 AM, Brett A Mansfield wrote:
They don't require a computer anymore.
I have some customers with POTS lines that have had far more issues than any of
my
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 11:12 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines
I have mixed emotions. If you got stuck in an elevator, bank vault or burning
building which would you rather have connected, magic jack
They don't require a computer anymore.
I have some customers with POTS lines that have had far more issues than any of
my magicJack customers.
If you can get a POTS line for only $20/mo the that would be great, but this
customer didn't have that option.
Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield
> On
On 2/23/17 09:11, Chuck McCown wrote:
I have mixed emotions. If you got stuck in an elevator, bank vault or
burning building which would you rather have connected, magic jack or a
good old fashioned POTS line on good copper?
Who wouldn't prefer a magicjack connected to a random desktop?
offett
*Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 8:51 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines
Yes, check local ordinances.
Here it's not specifically an analog POTS line, but the line and
anything it relies on (PBX, etc) has to operate without external
power for some number
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines
Yes, check local ordinances.
Here it's not specifically an analog POTS line, but the line and anything it
relies on (PBX, etc) has to operate without external power for some number of
hours.
I would argue that a POTS line *is* th
Thursday, February 23, 2017 8:51 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines
>
> Yes, check local ordinances.
> Here it's not specifically an analog POTS line, but the line and anything it
> relies on (PBX, etc) has to operate without external power fo
"we're sorry, but this elevator is now out of service. It will return to
service at 8:00 am tomorrow..."
-Original Message-
From: Seth Mattinen
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines
On 2/23/17 08:43, Chuck Mc
On 2/23/17 08:43, Chuck McCown wrote:
Elevators are faraday cages. Cell phones do not always work there...
All of the elevators at school had phone numbers that you could call
them with because they were set up with auto answer speakerphones. Kinda
fun to mess with people.
~Seth
if someone is stuck in the elevator and can't call
for help?
-- Original Message --
From: "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 2/23/2017 9:40:04 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines
Need to check with your local ordinances...
In ma
Elevators are faraday cages. Cell phones do not always work there...
From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 7:40 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines
How do you think that call gets from Verizon to AT over that hardline exactly?
On Feb 23, 2017 8:37 AM
is stuck in the elevator and
can't call for help?
-- Original Message --
From: "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 2/23/2017 9:40:04 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines
Need to check with your local ordinances...
In many places,
“Hardline” is another of those terms people use but if you ask them what it
means they have no idea. Are they telling us we need to use Heliax?
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:24 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator
Using a network that's monitored 24/7 and fixed by dozens of people on call.
Not like a $40 ATA that's getting covered in graphite in the elevator room.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Josh Reynolds
AT Just tried to "upgrade" a location I work with from POTS to
U-Verse, when I mentioned there is an elevator there, they said, "Oh,
you're not eligible for U-verse Phone then". That didn't stop sales
people calling once a week to schedule the "upgrade" though.
On 2/23/2017 8:40 AM, Josh
How do you think that call gets from Verizon to AT over that hardline
exactly?
On Feb 23, 2017 8:37 AM, "Josh Luthman" wrote:
> Internet is far more complicated than a pair of copper wires. I can see
> where they're coming from.
>
> Having said that...who the hell
& Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
> From: "Dave" <dmilho...@wletc.com>
> To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:27:
Internet is far more complicated than a pair of copper wires. I can see
where they're coming from.
Having said that...who the hell wouldn't use their cell phone...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 9:27 AM,
Someone needs to reach out to the yahoos concerned with elevators that
HAVE TO HAVE a quote "Hardline".
I think we are in the 21st century and hard-lines I would think are
about gone.
A company in town here had an issue getting a hardline from ATT for
their elevator. They paid out the waazoo to
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