Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-24 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
> Say a 911 scenario, cell phone base tech will not work. Perhaps all > wireless would be iffy. Good copper, in duct, under the streets works in > almost all conditions. > > -Original Message- > From: Faisal Imtiaz > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 6:42 AM > To: a

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-24 Thread chuck
. Perhaps all wireless would be iffy. Good copper, in duct, under the streets works in almost all conditions. -Original Message- From: Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 6:42 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines Correct... I am not sure what

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-24 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
attinen" <se...@rollernet.us> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 12:25:05 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines > On 2/23/17 1:57 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: >> >>The Phone Line in the Elevator is not a Fire code >> requirement(

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-24 Thread Carlos Alcantar
af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines On 2/23/17 1:57 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > >The Phone Line in the Elevator is not a Fire code > requirement(That is the fire alarm button is for). Of all the alarm buttons I've ever pressed in elevators, they just ring a be

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/23/17 1:57 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: The Phone Line in the Elevator is not a Fire code requirement(That is the fire alarm button is for). Of all the alarm buttons I've ever pressed in elevators, they just ring a bell/alarm while pressed and that's it. Useful for Morse code

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
: Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:54:40 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines > There are national fire codes that most jurisdictions adopt. > Same as the NEC etc. > Irrespective of actual ordinances, the alarm companies are the ones setting > the > standar

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Brett A Mansfield
in defying them to prove that my ATA or ONT is not good enough and > that their pots comes from the equivalent technology out in that box along > the highway. > > I am flexible. > > > > From: Faisal Imtiaz > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 12:49 PM > To: af

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Chuck McCown
Imtiaz Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 12:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines Chuck, I have to disagree with you on part of your statement Local ordinances vary from region to region Fire Alarms ... are very particular, and require TWO POTS phone

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
EC. > Not that I don't want you to sell another VoIP line, but do *you* want to be > the > one getting in trouble if someone is stuck in the elevator and can't call for > help? > -- Original Message -- > From: "Faisal Imtiaz" < fai...@snappytelecom.net &

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Ken Hohhof
: Thursday, February 23, 2017 11:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines Most customers are within the boundary of a Local Exchange Carrier with a Certificate of Public Convenience and Necessity issued by the state public utilitity regulators. And, they are typically the COLR

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Brett A Mansfield
d. > > -Original Message- From: Brett A Mansfield > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 10:25 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines > > They don't require a computer anymore. > > I have some customers with POTS lines that have had far

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Chuck McCown
Fronter Good Copper Mutually Exclusive From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 10:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines We have Frontier. They have no “good copper”. They have waterlogged cables, and orange garbage bags on the side of the road where

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Chuck McCown
@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines They don't require a computer anymore. I have some customers with POTS lines that have had far more issues than any of my magicJack customers. If you can get a POTS line for only $20/mo the that would be great, but this customer didn't have

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, They aren't asking for the correct type of line. They just need a basic, metered use line from Centurylink. Travis On 2/23/2017 10:25 AM, Brett A Mansfield wrote: They don't require a computer anymore. I have some customers with POTS lines that have had far more issues than any of my

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Ken Hohhof
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 11:12 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines I have mixed emotions. If you got stuck in an elevator, bank vault or burning building which would you rather have connected, magic jack

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Brett A Mansfield
They don't require a computer anymore. I have some customers with POTS lines that have had far more issues than any of my magicJack customers. If you can get a POTS line for only $20/mo the that would be great, but this customer didn't have that option. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield > On

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/23/17 09:11, Chuck McCown wrote: I have mixed emotions. If you got stuck in an elevator, bank vault or burning building which would you rather have connected, magic jack or a good old fashioned POTS line on good copper? Who wouldn't prefer a magicjack connected to a random desktop?

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Travis Johnson
offett *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 8:51 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines Yes, check local ordinances. Here it's not specifically an analog POTS line, but the line and anything it relies on (PBX, etc) has to operate without external power for some number

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Chuck McCown
To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines Yes, check local ordinances. Here it's not specifically an analog POTS line, but the line and anything it relies on (PBX, etc) has to operate without external power for some number of hours. I would argue that a POTS line *is* th

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Brett A Mansfield
Thursday, February 23, 2017 8:51 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines > > Yes, check local ordinances. > Here it's not specifically an analog POTS line, but the line and anything it > relies on (PBX, etc) has to operate without external power fo

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Chuck McCown
"we're sorry, but this elevator is now out of service. It will return to service at 8:00 am tomorrow..." -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines On 2/23/17 08:43, Chuck Mc

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/23/17 08:43, Chuck McCown wrote: Elevators are faraday cages. Cell phones do not always work there... All of the elevators at school had phone numbers that you could call them with because they were set up with auto answer speakerphones. Kinda fun to mess with people. ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Chuck McCown
if someone is stuck in the elevator and can't call for help? -- Original Message -- From: "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/23/2017 9:40:04 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines Need to check with your local ordinances... In ma

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Chuck McCown
Elevators are faraday cages. Cell phones do not always work there... From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 7:40 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines How do you think that call gets from Verizon to AT over that hardline exactly? On Feb 23, 2017 8:37 AM

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Adam Moffett
is stuck in the elevator and can't call for help? -- Original Message -- From: "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/23/2017 9:40:04 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines Need to check with your local ordinances... In many places,

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Ken Hohhof
“Hardline” is another of those terms people use but if you ask them what it means they have no idea. Are they telling us we need to use Heliax? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:24 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Josh Luthman
Using a network that's monitored 24/7 and fixed by dozens of people on call. Not like a $40 ATA that's getting covered in graphite in the elevator room. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Josh Reynolds

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Nate Burke
AT Just tried to "upgrade" a location I work with from POTS to U-Verse, when I mentioned there is an elevator there, they said, "Oh, you're not eligible for U-verse Phone then". That didn't stop sales people calling once a week to schedule the "upgrade" though. On 2/23/2017 8:40 AM, Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Josh Reynolds
How do you think that call gets from Verizon to AT over that hardline exactly? On Feb 23, 2017 8:37 AM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > Internet is far more complicated than a pair of copper wires. I can see > where they're coming from. > > Having said that...who the hell

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
& Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Dave" <dmilho...@wletc.com> > To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:27:

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Josh Luthman
Internet is far more complicated than a pair of copper wires. I can see where they're coming from. Having said that...who the hell wouldn't use their cell phone... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 9:27 AM,

[AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Dave
Someone needs to reach out to the yahoos concerned with elevators that HAVE TO HAVE a quote "Hardline". I think we are in the 21st century and hard-lines I would think are about gone. A company in town here had an issue getting a hardline from ATT for their elevator. They paid out the waazoo to