Re: [agi] FHI is shutting down

2024-04-24 Thread Ben Goertzel
> this as a person who should not be an institutional director - my > inevitable personality conficts would damage any institute I ran. > > With Anders as director I think FHI would not have been closed. > > > On Wed, 24 Apr 2024, Ben Goertzel wrote: > > FHI shared an office

Re: [agi] FHI is shutting down

2024-04-24 Thread Ben Goertzel
eory and information hazards >>>> (Roko's Basilisk), but to no avail. >>>> >>>> Vernor Vinge described the Singularity as an event horizon on the future. >>>> It cannot be predicted. The best we can do is extrap

Re: [agi] Re: ISO experienced Rust dev to help build AGI

2023-03-05 Thread Ben Goertzel
tely accomplishes this except > as a bricolage kludge. This is quite frustrating and, to be quite honest, I > don't think ANY new programming language deserves to exist that doesn't > perform this feat as an inevitability of its structure. > > This isn't just an autistic demand for a

Re: [agi] Re: ISO experienced Rust dev to help build AGI

2023-03-04 Thread Ben Goertzel
> but the interpreter for core MeTTa has to be written in something else > and that is Rust (which we chose over C++ or Haskell for this purpose > for fairly familiar reasons...) We nearly chose C++ but went with Rust for reasons like greater maintainability and greater ease of having the code

Re: [agi] Re: ISO experienced Rust dev to help build AGI

2023-03-04 Thread Ben Goertzel
On Sat, Mar 4, 2023 at 6:06 AM stefan.reich.maker.of.eye via AGI wrote: > > I'd be very curious to hear what you see as the role of Rust in AGI if you'd > be willing to expand on it a little bit. (Trade secret?! :) > > Stefan It's not very secret, see e.g.

[agi] ISO experienced Rust dev to help build AGI

2023-03-03 Thread Ben Goertzel
OpenCog Hyperon / SingularityNET is looking for an experienced Rust developer with an interest in AGI and/or implementation of novel functional programming languages. Email recruitm...@singularitynet.io and/or b...@singularitynet.io ... thanks! -- ben -- Ben Goertzel, PhD b...@goertzel.org &qu

[agi] AGI DIscussion Session Fri. Nov 11 -- Envisioning An Artificial Metaversal Society for Early-Stage AGI

2022-11-07 Thread Ben Goertzel
See https://wiki.opencog.org/w/AGI_Discussion_Forum#Upcoming_Sessions for details -- Ben Goertzel, PhD b...@goertzel.org "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permali

Re: [agi] AGI Discussion Forum -- Alex Ororbia on new/better alternatives to backprop e.g. predictive coding == 7AM Pacific time Wed Sep 21

2022-09-21 Thread Ben Goertzel
Video will be posted on AGI DIscussion Forum page on OpenCog wiki... On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 1:13 PM Mike Archbold wrote: > > Thanks. Where do you guys post the video? Thanks > > On 9/20/22, Ben Goertzel wrote: > > (note this one is Wed rather than Fri ...) > > >

[agi] AGI Discussion Forum -- Alex Ororbia on new/better alternatives to backprop e.g. predictive coding == 7AM Pacific time Wed Sep 21

2022-09-20 Thread Ben Goertzel
culation, local representation alignment, contrastive Hebbian learning, wake-sleep, and predictive processing." -- Ben Goertzel, PhD b...@goertzel.org "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche -- Artificial

Re: [agi] NY Times article about Ben Goertzel's Desdemona

2022-08-10 Thread Ben Goertzel
our last gigs at NAMMshow and Drom in NYC only featured the robot reciting AI generated poetry while the human band (incl me on keys and mayhem) jams ... https://media.namm.org/nso22/JamGalaxyBand.mp4 But in our Aug 21 gig at the Croc in Seattle (right after the AGI-22 event) we will premier

[agi] AGI DISCUSSION FORUM IN 30 MIN ... : July 15 2022, 7AM-8:30AM Pacific time: Matt ikle and Ben Goertzel on Measuring Consciousness in AGI Systems

2022-07-15 Thread Ben Goertzel
Videoconference at: https://singularitynet.zoom.us/my/benbot See details at https://wiki.opencog.org/w/AGI_Discussion_Forum -- ben -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink:

Re: [agi] The next advance over transformer models

2022-06-30 Thread Ben Goertzel
he time each sentence is presented. > > If all the above is true, the key question should be: what method could > directly group hierarchies of elements in language which share predictions? > > Artificial General Intelligence List / AGI / see discussions + participants + > delivery o

Re: [agi] Re: Current crypto crash

2022-06-19 Thread Ben Goertzel
it is wasteful. > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 7:38 AM Ben Goertzel wrote: >> >> As list founder/ co-owner, I would have to say the particulars of >> crypto trading are not on-topic for this list. Implementation of AGI >> on decentralized networks is on-topic, as is cus

Re: [agi] Re: Current crypto crash

2022-06-19 Thread Ben Goertzel
discussions + participants + > delivery options Permalink -- Ben Goertzel, PhD b...@goertzel.org "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink:

[agi] AGI DISCUSSION FORUM IN 6 HRS ... : June 17, 2022, 7AM-8:30AM Pacific time: Rob Freeman on chaotic cognitive linguistics

2022-06-17 Thread Ben Goertzel
-- ben goertzel -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Tafc92c0f2d3463ba-M3e3af5ee265d68a8b2683782 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription

[agi] Experiential Learning from Sequential Data - Anton Kolonin - OpenCog AGI Discussion

2022-05-27 Thread Ben Goertzel
A video of today's excellent talk by Anton Kolonin, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV_QQ7fqalw Apologies I forgot to give a reminder of the session yesterday (due to being busy moving house) ... it was a good one! ben -- Ben Goertzel, PhD b...@goertzel.org "My humanity is a constant

[agi] AGi Discussion Forum -- AGI DSLs in MeTTa (April 22)

2022-04-22 Thread Ben Goertzel
Reminder April 22, 2022, 7AM-8:30AM Pacific time: Alexey Potapov on "OpenCog Hyperon's MeTTa Language as a Tool for Creating DSLs" ... https://singularitynet.zoom.us/my/benbot . On Fri, Apr 8, 2022, 00:05 Ben Goertzel wrote: > AGI DIscussion Forum Session in 7 hours

[agi] AGi Discussion Forum -- formalization of MeTTa (April 8)

2022-04-08 Thread Ben Goertzel
nt general math formulation underlying MeTTa language) ... https://singularitynet.zoom.us/my/benbot . Background material: https://arxiv.org/abs/2203.15970 -- ben -- Ben Goertzel, PhD b...@goertzel.org "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche --

[agi] Formalization of OpenCog Hyperon's MeTTa language in terms of metagraph rewrite rules

2022-04-04 Thread Ben Goertzel
" A meta-probabilistic-programming language for bisimulation of probabilistic and non-well-founded type systems Jonathan Warrell, Alexey Potapov, Adam Vandervorst, Ben Goertzel " https://arxiv.org/abs/2203.15970 -- Ben Goertzel, PhD b...@goertzel.org "My humanity is

Re: [agi] AGI in the news

2022-03-28 Thread Ben Goertzel
interplanetary projections) but >> it's short on details. >> >> Any of you know about this co? > > Artificial General Intelligence List / AGI / see discussions + participants + > delivery options Permalink -- Ben Goertzel, PhD b...@goertzel.org "My humanity is

Re: [agi] AGi Discussion Forum sessions -- semantic primitives (Mar 18) and formalization of MeTTa (April 8)

2022-03-14 Thread Ben Goertzel
, programming languages and logics lies at the heart of OpenCog Hyperon design... On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 3:36 PM Rob Freeman wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 9:18 PM Ben Goertzel wrote: >> >> ... >> Well I am working pragmatically with the notion that the meaning of >>

Re: [agi] AGi Discussion Forum sessions -- semantic primitives (Mar 18) and formalization of MeTTa (April 8)

2022-03-14 Thread Ben Goertzel
> > But what assumptions are you baking into that? > > Are you assuming that the set of human concepts is finite? Are you assuming > that human concepts do not contradict? Are you assuming it is meaningful to > measure an "error" of concept e? Are you assuming you can even count > concepts?

Re: [agi] AGi Discussion Forum sessions -- semantic primitives (Mar 18) and formalization of MeTTa (April 8)

2022-03-14 Thread Ben Goertzel
> reality is undecidable, and this is true even in a narrow, > formal, sense." > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 2:37 PM Ben Goertzel wrote: >> >> The next couple AGI Discussion Forum sessions: >> >> https://wiki.opencog.org/w/AGI_Discussion_Forum#Sessions

[agi] AGi Discussion Forum sessions -- semantic primitives (Mar 18) and formalization of MeTTa (April 8)

2022-03-14 Thread Ben Goertzel
The next couple AGI Discussion Forum sessions: https://wiki.opencog.org/w/AGI_Discussion_Forum#Sessions March 18, 2022, 7AM-8:30AM Pacific time: Ben Goertzel leading discussion on semantic primitives , https://singularitynet.zoom.us/my/benbot . Background: https://bengoertzel.substack.com/p/can

[agi] AGI DIscussion Forum, Fri Feb 18, 7AM Pacific time -- Neural-symbolic proto-AGI in Minecraft w/ Alexey Potapov

2022-02-17 Thread Ben Goertzel
Hyperon work and will be ported in more generalized form to Hyperon before too long (once MeTTa interpreter and associated tooling is ready), Location is here, https://singularitynet.zoom.us/my/benbot -- Ben Goertzel, PhD b...@goertzel.org "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" --

[agi] Re: [opencog-dev] Neural-symbolic approach to exploratory learning in MInecraft

2022-02-11 Thread Ben Goertzel
his is one of the key applications we're using to test Hyperon as we develop it, along with the good old bio-AI genomic reasoning application, and the Grace robot back-end... ben On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 3:24 PM Ben Goertzel wrote: > > Well wait till our Sophiaverse AI/blockchain metavers

[agi] Re: [opencog-dev] Neural-symbolic approach to exploratory learning in MInecraft

2022-02-11 Thread Ben Goertzel
., Feb. 11, 2022, 12:31 p.m. Ben Goertzel, > wrote: >> >> Check this out from Alexey Potapov, >> >> https://blog.singularitynet.io/towards-general-purpose-minecraft-ai-agents-41fe415d6dd >> >> While it does not use OpenCog, the work was done as a prelimina

Re: [agi] AGI Discussion Forum -- Jan 28, 7AM Pacific time -- What Makes a Theorem Interesting?

2022-01-27 Thread Ben Goertzel
There seems to be a spiritual defect in your axiom system my friend ;) On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 10:31 AM Mike Archbold wrote: > > money > > On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 11:38 PM Ben Goertzel wrote: > > > > Next discussion forum coming up!! -- > > > > * Jan 28

[agi] AGI Discussion Forum -- Jan 28, 7AM Pacific time -- What Makes a Theorem Interesting?

2022-01-26 Thread Ben Goertzel
Next discussion forum coming up!! -- * Jan 28, 2022, 7AM-8:30AM Pacific time: Ben Goertzel on "What Makes a Theorem Interesting?", https://singularitynet.zoom.us/my/benbot https://wiki.opencog.org/w/AGI_Discussion_Forum#Sessions Be there or ... don't ... ;) -- Ben Goert

Re: [agi] TrueAGI

2022-01-02 Thread Ben Goertzel
> Artificial General Intelligence List / AGI / see discussions + participants + > delivery options Permalink -- Ben Goertzel, PhD b...@goertzel.org "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche -- Artificial General Int

Re: [agi] TrueAGI

2022-01-01 Thread Ben Goertzel
Which is the true true AGI, that is the question!! On Sat, Jan 1, 2022, 16:35 Mike Archbold wrote: > Trademark aside, now for the true AGI ;) ? > > On 1/1/22, Ben Goertzel wrote: > > And on GitHub what I find is an empty list of AGI resources > > > >

Re: [agi] TrueAGI

2022-01-01 Thread Ben Goertzel
; > similarly long periods of time. I can't believe they'd just steal my > > trademark like that. I figured they'd at least do some due diligence to > > see if the name was already in use, and maybe even contact me if they > > really wanted it that badly. I'm so stunned, I

Re: [agi] TrueAGI

2022-01-01 Thread Ben Goertzel
trademark like that. I figured they'd at least do some due diligence to > see if the name was already in use, and maybe even contact me if they > really wanted it that badly. I'm so stunned, I don't even know what to do. > > --Aaron > -- Ben Goertzel, PhD b...@goertzel.or

Re: [agi] Toward formalization of Hyperon's MeTTa language in terms of metagraph rewrite rules

2021-12-13 Thread Ben Goertzel
MeTTa is not like Cyc or Cycl-L at all, it is more like a 2.0 version of OpenCog's "Atomese" language. The learning/reasoning algos to go along with it, at first pass, will be more elegant and abstract versions of the familiar algos from OpenCog .. interfacing with deep NNs according to an

[agi] Toward formalization of Hyperon's MeTTa language in terms of metagraph rewrite rules

2021-12-12 Thread Ben Goertzel
he implementation of efficient methods for pattern matching and equality inference within the MeTTa interpreter. \end{abstract} -- Ben Goertzel, PhD b...@goertzel.org "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche -- A

[agi] AGI Discussion Forum Dec 10: Doug Miles LogicMoo Part Two

2021-12-08 Thread Ben Goertzel
://wiki.opencog.org/w/AGI_Discussion_Forum#Sessions More and more tasty logicmoo to fill your minds with beautiful and promising AI glory! See you Friday ;) ben -- Ben Goertzel, PhD b...@goertzel.org "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich

Re: [agi] drug name

2021-11-24 Thread Ben Goertzel
business and family in Addis Ababa and Bahir Dar) there are low COVID rates throughout Ethiopia, which is mostly mountainous with no malaria and no use of antimalarials... On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 6:02 PM John Rose wrote: > > On Tuesday, November 23, 2021, at 8:38 PM, Ben Goertzel

Re: [agi] drug name

2021-11-23 Thread Ben Goertzel
WILL create something more deadly. This was a test. We > failed. > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2021, 6:25 AM John Rose wrote: >> >> An AGI should be able to model cells, quite easily actually, better than AI: >> https://www.brighteon.com/4c2922ea-7239-478d-8780-6fb80d4df3

Re: [agi] drug name

2021-11-23 Thread Ben Goertzel
Intelligence List / AGI / see discussions + participants + > delivery options Permalink -- Ben Goertzel, PhD b...@goertzel.org "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Perm

Re: [agi] AGI Discussion Forum -- Doug Miles on LogicMoo -- 7AM Pacific time Fri Nov 19

2021-11-19 Thread Ben Goertzel
https://singularitynet.zoom.us/rec/share/qNIWqUfZIcj2oJgVdRxMR425lLfFU8MgQAY8van6XQKjeupPOEvgpzvU9tiwIH0S.XMYMYD9N2QRDfT19 On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 12:34 PM Mike Archbold wrote: > > Link to video please? > > On 11/18/21, Ben Goertzel wrote: > > https://wiki.opencog.org/w/AG

[agi] AGI Discussion Forum -- Doug Miles on LogicMoo -- 7AM Pacific time Fri Nov 19

2021-11-18 Thread Ben Goertzel
https://wiki.opencog.org/w/AGI_Discussion_Forum Zoom room: https://singularitynet.zoom.us/my/benbot Background: https://logicmoo.org/public/ 11.5 hrs from now ... be there or remain woefully ignorant of Doug's super-cool work! ... [or OK catch the recorded video afterwards... ;) ] -- Ben

[agi] AGI Discussion forum Oct 29 -- Hyperon as an AGI Approach (what needs special focus? what's missing?)

2021-10-28 Thread Ben Goertzel
5 hours in) -- Ben -- Ben Goertzel, PhD b...@goertzel.org "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Tc5f7e6

[agi] Zoom and YouTube links for today's Neural-Symbolic AGI workshop (part of AGI-21)

2021-10-15 Thread Ben Goertzel
See https://wiki.opencog.org/w/Workshop_on_Scaling_up_Neural-Symbolic_and_Integrative_AGI_Architectures -- Ben Goertzel, PhD b...@goertzel.org "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche -- Artificial General Intelli

[agi] Meta Type Talk (Hyperon) language description online, w/ talk coming Fri at AGI-21

2021-10-14 Thread Ben Goertzel
typed, allowing interoperation of multiple type systems w/ their own type checkers, and is intended to foster runtime human and AI creation of type systems including funky ones like probabilistic dependent type systems etc.).Metta is also a Pali word for lovingkindness, which has some AGI ethic

Re: [agi] AGI-21, Oct 15-18: How, When and Why AGI

2021-10-12 Thread Ben Goertzel
area it would be great to intersect in the > > flesh the old-fashioned way (appropriately. masked etc. > > > > General conference website: > > > > http://agi-conf.org/2021/ > > http://agi-conf.org/2021/registration/ > > > > Website for the nontechnica

[agi] AGI-21, Oct 15-18: How, When and Why AGI

2021-10-12 Thread Ben Goertzel
gistration/ Website for the nontechnical "How When and Why AGI" day: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/how-when-and-why-agi-understanding-the-emerging-agi-revolution-tickets-185317649077 -- Ben Goertzel, PhD b...@goertzel.org "My humanity is a constant self

Re: [agi] Re: AGI Discussion Forum: Recursion Schemes -- Oct. 1 2021 --- 7AM-8:30AM US Pacific time

2021-10-01 Thread Ben Goertzel via AGI
yeah I'll link it to the wiki page shortly! On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 10:15 AM stefan.reich.maker.of.eye via AGI wrote: > > Missed it. Is there a recording? > Artificial General Intelligence List / AGI / see discussions + participants + > delivery options Permalink -- Ben Goertz

[agi] AGI Discussion Forum: Recursion Schemes -- Oct. 1 2021 --- 7AM-8:30AM US Pacific time

2021-09-30 Thread Ben Goertzel via AGI
; focusing on a computer science technique that I believe can play a critical role in implementations of AGI systems. This may be a case where implementation-level tricks prove themselves more than "tricks" and synergize well with cognitive structures and dynamics. -- Ben -- Ben Goertzel

Re: [agi] AGI discussion group, Sep 10 7AM Pacific: Characterizing and Implementing Human-Like Consciousness

2021-09-16 Thread Ben Goertzel via AGI
On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 12:56 AM wrote: > > We are already replaced. God doesnt need any of us. Dude. Each of us is a fractal image and portion of "God". Get your eschatology straight my friend ;) -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI

Re: [agi] Rescuing Computer Science With the Relational Dimensions of the Empirical World

2021-09-11 Thread Ben Goertzel via AGI
his mathematics as a result of inventing minimal circuits in the early days > of the transistor -- and found he was working with imaginary logic values. > > So, tying this all together to address the original point: It would appear > that the computer science notion of "

Re: [agi] Re: AGI discussion group, Sep 10 7AM Pacific: Characterizing and Implementing Human-Like Consciousness

2021-09-09 Thread Ben Goertzel via AGI
ah yes these are very familiar. materials! ;) Linas Vepstas and I have been batting around Coecke's papers for an awfully long time now... On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 9:54 PM Rob Freeman wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 2:36 PM Ben Goertzel via AGI > wrote: >> >&g

Re: [agi] Re: AGI discussion group, Sep 10 7AM Pacific: Characterizing and Implementing Human-Like Consciousness

2021-09-09 Thread Ben Goertzel via AGI
>> -- design of a new programming language (MeTTA = Meta Type Talk) >> designed to serve as the type system and formalism behind the new >> version of OpenCog Atomspace. A lot of math/CS work has been done in >> the last 9 months leading up to this design... > > > Meta Type Talk... > > Is it a

Re: [agi] Re: AGI discussion group, Sep 10 7AM Pacific: Characterizing and Implementing Human-Like Consciousness

2021-09-09 Thread Ben Goertzel via AGI
On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 5:06 PM wrote: > > I dont think Man as a group has much chance in getting that to happen. Need > to get more down to earth I think. Our OpenCog/SNet team is spending a lot of time on down-to-earth stuff, some of which we'll talk about in some future AGI Discussion

[agi] AGI discussion group, Sep 10 7AM Pacific: Characterizing and Implementing Human-Like Consciousness

2021-09-09 Thread Ben Goertzel via AGI
to spread it out > > further, the same amount of computation power. -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org “He not busy being born is busy dying" -- Bob Dylan -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com

Re: [agi] Re: Advanced robots

2021-08-27 Thread Ben Goertzel
participants + > delivery options Permalink -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org “He not busy being born is busy dying" -- Bob Dylan -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Tf6dddeb

Re: [agi] Re: Advanced robots

2021-08-27 Thread Ben Goertzel
o be useful for modeling > chemistry or nuclear physics, as it exponentially speeds up solving > Schrodinger's equation. > > But learning means writing bits into memory. A quantum computer can't do that. > > Artificial General Intelligence List / AGI / see discussions + particip

[agi] AGI Discussion Forum: next one will be Fri Sep 10 (none this week)

2021-08-26 Thread Ben Goertzel
Hi, I'd previously scheduled an AGI Discussion Forum for this week but life has intervened... hopefully the added time for anticipation will make the next one on Sep 10 all the more precious ;) https://wiki.opencog.org/w/AGI_Discussion_Forum -- ben -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org

Re: [agi] Re: Advanced robots

2021-08-25 Thread Ben Goertzel
On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 10:57 PM wrote: > > Hehe > > I searched a bit and found 2 links worth sharing. > > A fully moving robot woman built for 50,000$ in Hong Kong > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd3QDTPgkOg > That dude brought his Scarlett Johannsen robot by the Hanson Robotics office in HK

Re: [agi] Re: Advanced robots

2021-08-24 Thread Ben Goertzel
elon-musk-robot > Artificial General Intelligence List / AGI / see discussions + participants + > delivery options Permalink -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org “He not busy being born is busy dying" -- Bob Dylan -- Artificial General Intell

[agi] Re: AGI discussion group, Aug 13 7:30AM Pacific: Open Ended Motivational Systems for AGIs

2021-08-13 Thread Ben Goertzel
, Aug 12, 2021 at 8:56 PM Ben Goertzel wrote: > > August 13, 2021, 7:30AM-9AM US Pacific time > > TOPIC: Paraconsistent Models of Open-Ended AGI Motivations. (leader: > Ben Goertzel) > > URL for video-chat: https://singularitynet.zoom.us/my/benbot > > ... open to all AGI

[agi] AGI discussion group, Aug 13 7:30AM Pacific: Open Ended Motivational Systems for AGIs

2021-08-12 Thread Ben Goertzel
August 13, 2021, 7:30AM-9AM US Pacific time TOPIC: Paraconsistent Models of Open-Ended AGI Motivations. (leader: Ben Goertzel) URL for video-chat: https://singularitynet.zoom.us/my/benbot ... open to all AGI enthusiasts/researchers who want to listen and/or converse on the theme... ben

Re: [agi] Re: Gazelle financing Attempt 2

2021-08-09 Thread Ben Goertzel
Beautiful thread guys ;) On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 10:54 AM Brett N Martensen wrote: > > 0.786 ETH sent > Artificial General Intelligence List / AGI / see discussions + participants + > delivery options Permalink -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org “He not busy being born i

Re: [agi] AGI Business Thought Experiment

2021-08-05 Thread Ben Goertzel
ave otherwise > demanded a large base of employees? > Artificial General Intelligence List / AGI / see discussions + participants + > delivery options Permalink -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org “He not busy being born is busy dying" -- Bob Dylan --

[agi] AGI discussion Forum June 18 -- Engineering and Emergence in AGI Systems

2021-06-17 Thread Ben Goertzel
ben -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org “He not busy being born is busy dying" -- Bob Dylan -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T09807150102c58c0-M9873a8b11b4553d2a0bb9e7a Delivery opti

[agi] AGI Discussion Fora -- Minecraft, Automated Program Learning...

2021-05-18 Thread Ben Goertzel
knowledge base of whatever proto-AGI system you're working with... -- ben -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org “He not busy being born is busy dying" -- Bob Dylan -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox

Re: [agi] Re: AGI Discussion Forum, May 14: Minecraft for aGI?

2021-05-13 Thread Ben Goertzel
gt; > chaos to human. > > > > Neural Rendering: How Low Can You Go In Terms Of Input?: > > https://www.unite.ai/neural-rendering-low-resolution-input-intel/ -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org “He not busy being born is busy dying" -- Bob Dylan --

[agi] Re: AGI Discussion Forum, May 14: Minecraft for aGI?

2021-05-10 Thread Ben Goertzel
Ah, forgot to re-include the general AGI Discussion Forum link, https://wiki.opencog.org/w/AGI_Discussion_Forum On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 12:51 AM Ben Goertzel wrote: > > Hi all, > > Fri May 14, 2021 we will have the next AGI Discussion Forum session on the > topic > &g

[agi] AGI Discussion Forum, May 14: Minecraft for aGI?

2021-05-10 Thread Ben Goertzel
itself so much to wide-open brainstorming/discussion. I've aimed this time to choose a topic that's super easy for anyone to enter into... opposite end of the spectrum perhaps... thanks Ben -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org “He not busy being born is busy dying&quo

Re: [agi] Re: Thursday, March 25, 2021 Constructing Transformers For Longer Sequences with Sparse Attention Methods

2021-04-19 Thread Ben Goertzel
On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 8:57 AM Mike Archbold wrote: > > I mean -- usually not enough appeals to intuition, just dive in to the > equations too fast. Hmm, my taste in reading ML papers is to first read the equations, then look for empirical results if any, and only after that worry about

[agi] OpenCog Hyperon / AGI Discussion Forum

2021-04-16 Thread Ben Goertzel
is technically knowledgeable genuinely interested in the sort of AGI approach we're pursuing... thanks! Ben -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org “He not busy being born is busy dying" -- Bob Dylan -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Perm

Re: [agi] Re: AGI Conference 2021?

2021-04-16 Thread Ben Goertzel
box.com/groups/agi> + > participants <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + delivery > options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> Permalink > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T05f9e3871800e2db-M4afee118ae6ecc6e93107181> > -- Ben Goertzel,

Re: [agi] Re: AGI Conference 2021?

2021-04-16 Thread Ben Goertzel
GI"? ;p On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 8:32 AM wrote: > > Agreed, boring tokyo AGI. > Artificial General Intelligence List / AGI / see discussions + participants + > delivery options Permalink -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org “He not busy being

Re: [agi] AGI Conference 2021?

2021-04-16 Thread Ben Goertzel
Regarding the Tokyo event, I note the papers listed at the bottom of https://waset.org/artificial-general-intelligence-conference-in-june-2021-in-tokyo have nothing to do with AGI as a topic, really... On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 8:23 AM Ben Goertzel wrote: > > That Tokyo event is a dif

Re: [agi] AGI Conference 2021?

2021-04-16 Thread Ben Goertzel
t; When / where would AGI 2021 be held? > > Is it postponed due to COVID? > >  > YKY -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org “He not busy being born is busy dying" -- Bob Dylan -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink:

Re: [agi] Gazelle AGI Technical Pitch

2021-04-12 Thread Ben Goertzel
wrote: >> >> For your reading pleasure. >> >> https://botcompany.de/files/1400465/Gazelle+AGI+Technical+Pitch.pdf > > Artificial General Intelligence List / AGI / see discussions + participants + > delivery options Permalink -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goert

Re: [agi] Toward a Useful General Theory of General Intelligence

2021-04-03 Thread Ben Goertzel
> This is interesting, had to pause and think on it: > > "Theorem 4. A COFO decision process whose combinatory operations Ci are > mutually > associative can be implemented as a chronomorphism." > I believe the utility of hierarchical structures for various aspects of human-like intelligence is

Re: [agi] Toward a Useful General Theory of General Intelligence

2021-04-03 Thread Ben Goertzel
al General Intelligence List / AGI / see discussions + participants + > delivery options Permalink -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org “He not busy being born is busy dying" -- Bob Dylan -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: http

Re: [agi] Toward a Useful General Theory of General Intelligence

2021-04-02 Thread Ben Goertzel
design wise. Specifically, given the advancement of quantum science, >>> suggesting to not exclude the development of the quantum aspect due to the >>> lack of a quantum computational platform. In other words, suggesting a >>> holistic approach to a generalized ve

Re: [agi] Toward a Useful General Theory of General Intelligence

2021-04-02 Thread Ben Goertzel
a fractal approach, instead primarily relying > on what emerges for the inherent nature of superpatterns. > > Viewing this similarly to the Euro-tunnel project, drilling from both > directions. If the science-in-engineering proved correct, the tunnel would be > encouraged to mee

Re: [agi] Toward a Useful General Theory of General Intelligence

2021-04-01 Thread Ben Goertzel
> > Your thoughts on quantum entanglement and AGI? > > Rob I suspect that quantum computing will enable even smarter AGIs than digital computing, but that digital computing can serve as the substrate for AGIs with greater than human GI ... I have argued recently that quantum probabilistic logic

[agi] Toward a Useful General Theory of General Intelligence

2021-04-01 Thread Ben Goertzel
stuff... ben -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org “He not busy being born is busy dying" -- Bob Dylan -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T9a211170d976967d-M0bd2c891d21f9d6fed33d174 Del

Re: [agi] Reversible Logic For Solomonoff Induction Via Evolutionary Program Synthesis

2021-03-24 Thread Ben Goertzel
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 6:35 AM James Bowery wrote: > > Agreed. I came at this a someone doing practical work with a CAS, frustrated > with how stupid it seemed, but you're right that I should have dropped the > CAS references and gone for the juggular -- particularly given my management > of

Re: [agi] Reversible Logic For Solomonoff Induction Via Evolutionary Program Synthesis

2021-03-24 Thread Ben Goertzel
On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 9:53 PM James Bowery wrote: > > I constrained mutations to "algebraic identities" -- which constrains the > paths to the search space. So the evolutionary program synthesis is more > along the lines of a computer algebra system searching for a proof. If the algebraic

Re: [agi] Reversible Logic For Solomonoff Induction Via Evolutionary Program Synthesis

2021-03-23 Thread Ben Goertzel
but Matt had some argument debunking this approach. > > PS: It was rather ironic that one of the first and most vocal critics of The > Hutter Prize was the inventor of the Kayak reversible programming language. > Artificial General Intelligence List / AGI / see discussions + particip

Re: [agi] Patterns of Cognition

2021-03-09 Thread Ben Goertzel
> One thing that is frustrating in many of your messages, Matt, is that > you interweave intelligent serious responses and thoughts with silly > trolling, in such a way that a reader without adequate background > couldn't tell the difference. I suppose in this way your messages are a fair

Re: [agi] Patterns of Cognition

2021-03-09 Thread Ben Goertzel
> Anyway, I assume that as an AGI researcher, that you don't believe that the > brain is doing anything that can't in principle be done by a computer. I don't know for sure if the brain is using quantum computing in some cognitively nontrivial way. But my best guess at present is that

Re: [agi] Patterns of Cognition

2021-03-08 Thread Ben Goertzel
on't use it, all pros use it. You on my naughty list, it's an > essential tool and is proven easily, bet you 5,000$. > Artificial General Intelligence List / AGI / see discussions + participants + > delivery options Permalink -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org “He not busy be

Re: [agi] Patterns of Cognition

2021-03-08 Thread Ben Goertzel
> So let's try it. If I randomly connect my neurons to the neurons in a dog's > brain, then I get a lot of novel sensations that just confuse me. After years > of experiments I learn their meanings. When I taste metal, it means the dog > is scratching it's left ear, and so on. > > Eventually

Re: [agi] Patterns of Cognition

2021-03-08 Thread Ben Goertzel
We are alive and magic meat robot machines my friend ;) On Mon, Mar 8, 2021, 2:20 PM wrote: > you clearly know nothing about the fact that we are ROBOT MACHINES. We are > not alive or magic. The brain only processes, there is no observer>poof > gone of last spawn worm holeany advanced AIers

Re: [agi] Patterns of Cognition

2021-03-08 Thread Ben Goertzel
> > Please tell me how you know whether the robot is conscious or not. I connect my brain to its brain with a "wire" of variable bandwidth and see what it feels like to sense myself fusing with it Then I carry out the same experiment with another human, a dog, a mushroom, a toaster, a computer

Re: [agi] Patterns of Cognition

2021-03-07 Thread Ben Goertzel
r. > > The recording you posted is interesting in that I think it displays a lower > layer from duality but it still has to transmit through duality for us to see. > > Artificial General Intelligence List / AGI / see discussions + participants + > delivery o

Re: [agi] Patterns of Cognition

2021-03-04 Thread Ben Goertzel
for the emerging superintelligent global brain...) On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 3:15 PM John Rose wrote: > > On Thursday, March 04, 2021, at 5:42 PM, Ben Goertzel wrote: > > And yes, Matt Mahoney is trolling me like he commonly does, I've gotten used > to it... of course I respond

Re: [agi] Patterns of Cognition

2021-03-04 Thread Ben Goertzel
I mean -- Better AGI-oriented trolling than QAnon mania right? ;'D On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 2:42 PM Ben Goertzel wrote: > > And yes, Matt Mahoney is trolling me like he commonly does, I've > gotten used to it... of course I respond to his trolling not for his > own delectation (I

Re: [agi] Patterns of Cognition

2021-03-04 Thread Ben Goertzel
be interested and with a more open-minded perspective ;) ... On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 2:40 PM Ben Goertzel wrote: > > Thanks John. I am working now on another paper that makes clearer > how the Patterns of Cognition material fits into an overall theory and > practice of general intelligence. >

Re: [agi] Patterns of Cognition

2021-03-04 Thread Ben Goertzel
here." > > There's a tradeoff between fidelity and implementable practicality it seems. > Go for the low hanging fruit. > > John > > Artificial General Intelligence List / AGI / see discussions + participants + > delivery options Permalink -- Ben Goertze

Re: [agi] Patterns of Cognition

2021-03-01 Thread Ben Goertzel
Not really a focus but might emerge as a side-effect... On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 1:09 PM wrote: > > Any evaluation on Text Prediction Ben? (Perplexity or Lossless Compression) > Artificial General Intelligence List / AGI / see discussions + participants + > delivery options Permalin

Re: [agi] Patterns of Cognition

2021-02-28 Thread Ben Goertzel
will cost in hardware, > software, training set size, years, and dollars? > > > On Sat, Feb 27, 2021, 3:44 PM Ben Goertzel wrote: >> >> ** >> OpenCog never did have a knowledge base or any useful applications or >> experimental results since the 2011 timeli

Re: [agi] Patterns of Cognition

2021-02-27 Thread Ben Goertzel
** OpenCog never did have a knowledge base or any useful applications or experimental results since the 2011 timeline forecast human level AGI in 8-10 years. ** My colleagues and I have used OpenCog w./in a bunch of useful applications but I don't have time to go through the list here It's true

Re: [agi] Patterns of Cognition

2021-02-27 Thread Ben Goertzel
-put but > that is all the more reason to try to make it accessible. The more people who > can understand the basic concepts the more people who will want to look at > the paper. > Artificial General Intelligence List / AGI / see discussions + participants + > delivery options Permali

Re: [agi] Patterns of Cognition

2021-02-25 Thread Ben Goertzel
Hi, > Ben, do you feel that these changes to OpenCog will address the current > obstacles to AGI? What do you believe were the reasons why it did not meet > the goals of the 2011 timeline ( > https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2011/03/opencog-artificial-general-intelligence.html > ) which forecast

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