Re: [agi] Second Life the Gaza Conflict

2009-01-04 Thread BillK
a protest site in Second Life. There is a lot of propaganda activity (on both sides) if you do a google search. BillK --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your

Re: [agi] Creativity and Rationality (was: Re: Should I get a PhD?)

2008-12-19 Thread BillK
, think he might say something useful to you instead of just wasting your time). BillK --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https

Re: [agi] Creativity and Rationality (was: Re: Should I get a PhD?)

2008-12-19 Thread BillK
, Contrarian Trolls frequent boards whose predominant opinions are contrary to their own. A forum dominated by those who support firearms and knife rights, for example, will invariably be visited by Contrarian Trolls espousing their beliefs in the benefits of gun control. BillK

[agi] Re: [sl4] Join me on Bebo

2008-12-04 Thread BillK
that has been caught out by this system. BillK --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244id_secret

Re: [agi] Entheogins, understainding the brain, and AGI

2008-11-24 Thread BillK
them all away yet. (Of course they might all be FBI agents. It's happened before) :) There are many similar interest groups for you to choose from. BillK --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com

[agi] Professor Asim Roy Finally Publishes Controversial Brain Theory

2008-11-20 Thread BillK
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Re: [agi] Professor Asim Roy Finally Publishes Controversial Brain Theory

2008-11-20 Thread BillK
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Mark Waser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah. Great headline -- Man beats dead horse beyond death! I'm sure that there will be more details at 11. Though I am curious . . . . BillK, why did you think that this was worth posting? ??? Did you read the article

Re: [agi] Professor Asim Roy Finally Publishes Controversial Brain Theory

2008-11-20 Thread BillK
straw man arguments... So, basically, you don't disagree with his paper to much. You just don't like his attitude.;) Danged AI researchers that think they know it all! ;) You don't think you could call it excessive PR where he is trying to dislodge an entrenched view? BillK

Re: [agi] My prospective plan to neutralize AGI and other dangerous technologies...

2008-11-18 Thread BillK
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Re: AW: AW: [agi] Language learning (was Re: Defining AGI)

2008-10-23 Thread BillK
. This increases the total number of languages from 23 to 34. Since we offer translation between any of those languages this increases the number of language pairs from 506 to 1122 (well, depending on how you count simplified and traditional Chinese you might get even larger numbers). - BillK

Re: AW: AW: [agi] Re: Defining AGI

2008-10-21 Thread BillK
. But Ben is saying that for evaluating science, there ain't no such checklist. The circumstances are too variable, you would need checklists to infinity. I go along with Ben. BillK --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https

Re: [agi] Will Wright's Five Artificial Intelligence Prophecies

2008-10-18 Thread BillK
there saying ' Ah, but they can't write poetry, so they are not really intelligent'. BillK --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https

Re: [agi] Advocacy Is no Excuse for Exaggeration

2008-10-15 Thread BillK
(2006) Hales, C. Qualia Ockham's Razor, Radio National, Australia 17 April (2005) Colin Hales. The 10 point framework and the altogether too hard basket Science and Consciousness Review (2003) --- BillK --- agi Archives: https

Re: [agi] META: A possible re-focusing of this list

2008-10-15 Thread BillK
lists are probably best. Then if technicians want a break from coding, they can dip into the philosophy list, to offer advice or maybe find new ideas to play with. And, as John said. it would save on moderation time. BillK --- agi Archives: https

Re: [agi] Updated AGI proposal (CMR v2.1)

2008-10-14 Thread BillK
basic levels. BillK --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244id_secret=117534816-b15a34 Powered

Re: [agi] Where the Future of AGI Lies

2008-09-20 Thread BillK
for 'world leader = president' or 'thumb and index finger = 2 fingers' NLP isn't as easy as it looks! :) BillK --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your

Re: [agi] Where the Future of AGI Lies

2008-09-19 Thread BillK
://www.cognition.com/ A new startup Eeggi is also interesting. http://www.eeggi.com/ BillK --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com

Re: [agi] Artificial humor

2008-09-11 Thread BillK
a few basic 3D objects (e.g. the Shrdlu stuff). Surely the DARPA autonomous vehicles driving themselves around the desert and in traffic show that computers can cope quite well with a 3D environment, including other objects moving around them as well? BillK

Re: AGI goals (was Re: Information theoretic approaches to AGI (was Re: [agi] The Necessity of Embodiment))

2008-08-27 Thread BillK
an infomorph. -- BillK --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244id_secret=111637683

Re: [agi] AGI's Philosophy of Learning

2008-08-20 Thread BillK
at once. Cooperative Linux also runs happily alongside Windows. BillK --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member

Re: [agi] AGI's Philosophy of Learning

2008-08-19 Thread BillK
Plus and NoScript addons. BillK --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244id_secret=111637683-c8fa51

Re: [agi] TOE -- US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-23 Thread BillK
as an Adjunct Faculty Member at Victor Valley College, Victorville, CA. BillK --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-21 Thread BillK
the technology to implement it. :-) I prefer Warren Ellis's angry, profane Three Laws of Robotics. (linked from BoingBoing) http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=5426 BillK --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https

Re: [agi] DARPA looking for 'Cutting Edge' AI projects

2008-06-24 Thread BillK
-- This is an overview of the meeting from one of the participants. http://www.ine-news.org/view.php?article=rss-248category=Workshops%3AGeneral Report on the DARPA SyNAPSE Teaming Workshop Leslie Smith 14 March 2008 --- BillK --- agi

Re: [agi] More Info Please

2008-05-27 Thread BillK
: Total is about 5% of Netcraft total) http://www.securityspace.com/s_survey/data/200804/ More detail here: http://www.securityspace.com/s_survey/data/200804/servers.html This gives 73% for Apache and 19% for Microsoft. BillK --- agi Archives: http

Re: [agi] More Info Please

2008-05-27 Thread BillK
major registrars. Their overall figure of 73% for Apache and 19% for Microsoft IIS sounds reasonable to me. As J. Andrew Rogers said, Apache is probably a larger % than this in Silicon Valley. BillK --- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive

Re: [agi] How general can be and should be AGI?

2008-04-26 Thread BillK
://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBIR This is a hot area of computer research, with many test systems. (see article). Nothing to do with AGI, of course. Every post from Mike seems to be yet another different way of saying 'You're all wrong!' Are you sure you want to be on this list, Mike? BillK

Re: [agi] Symbols

2008-03-31 Thread BillK
or twice should be sufficient, else you turn into a troll. BillK --- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id

Re: [agi] Instead of an AGI Textbook

2008-03-26 Thread BillK
... Here is a recent review of online mind mapping software: http://usableworld.terapad.com/index.cfm?fa=contentNews.newsDetailsnewsID=41870from=listdirectoryId=14375 Online mindmap tools - Updated! By James Breeze in Mind Maps Published: Saturday, 08 March 08 BillK

Re: [agi] reasoning knowledge

2008-02-26 Thread BillK
be taken advantage of by later robots. BillK --- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244id_secret=95818715

Re: [agi] Where are the women?

2007-11-30 Thread BillK
On Nov 30, 2007 2:37 PM, James Ratcliff wrote: More Women: Kokoro (image attached) So that's what a women is! I wondered.. BillK - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member

Re: Hacker intelligence level [WAS Re: [agi] Funding AGI research]

2007-11-29 Thread BillK
floating around the net and have to be protected against. BillK - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244id_secret=70081689-300ee8

Re: [agi] Nirvana? Manyana? Never!

2007-11-02 Thread BillK
be neat as well. Getting a dog is probably the nearest most humans can get to this. BillK - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244id_secret=60258273-c65ec9

Re: Economic libertarianism [was Re: The first-to-market effect [WAS Re: [agi] Religion-free technical content]

2007-10-06 Thread BillK
. A regulatory environment attempts to reduce the victimisation of the weaker members of the population and introduces another set of biases to the economy. A free market is just a nice intellectual theory that is of no use in the real world. (Unless you are in the Mafia, of course). BillK

Re: The first-to-market effect [WAS Re: [agi] Religion-free technical content]

2007-10-04 Thread BillK
system, then a sub-project will be a narrow AI project designed specifically to seek out and attack the competition *before* it becomes a true AGI. The Chinese are already constantly probing and attacking the western internet sites. BillK - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http

Re: [agi] Religion-free technical content

2007-10-02 Thread BillK
humans would be trying to stop me. -- I think the AGI will have great problems interfacing with these mixed-up argumentative humans. The AGI will probably have to do a lot of 'brain correction' to straighten out humanity. Let's hope that it knows what it is doing. BillK

Re: [agi] Religion-free technical content

2007-09-30 Thread BillK
, illegal music, pornography of every kind, etc. (Just wish I had a pornograph to play it on). BillK - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244id_secret=48269918-e87cb0

Re: [agi] Minimally ambiguous languages

2007-06-05 Thread BillK
also simplified the grammar but tried to keep it normal for English users. More recently, it has influenced the creation of Simplified English, a standardized version of English intended for the writing of technical manuals. BillK - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email

Re: [agi] My proposal for an AGI agenda

2007-04-10 Thread BillK
to tune performance or shoot oneself in the foot by reimplementing it poorly... BillK - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?list_id=303

Re: [agi] small code small hardware

2007-03-29 Thread BillK
problem to decide which functions are not required to create AGI. :) BillK - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?list_id=303

[agi] Mind mapping software

2007-03-06 Thread BillK
the next 19 hours. ** Restrictions for the free edition. 1. No free technical support 2. No free upgrades to future versions 3. Strictly non-commercial usage Normal price 119 USD. http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/conceptdraw-mindmap-personal/ BillK - This list is sponsored by AGIRI

Re: [agi] SOTA

2007-01-06 Thread BillK
is currently employed as a janitor at 10 high-rise buildings in Japan, including Harumi Triton Square and Roppongi Hills. BillK - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?list_id=303

Re: Re: Re: Re: [agi] A question on the symbol-system hypothesis

2006-12-05 Thread BillK
' alone will lead to what we call 'inhuman' ruthlessness. BillK - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?list_id=303

Re: Marvin and The Emotion Machine [WAS Re: [agi] A question on the symbol-system hypothesis]

2006-12-05 Thread BillK
do, we can be sure that the road toward designing 'post-human minds' will be rough. BillK - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?list_id=303

Re: [agi] A question on the symbol-system hypothesis

2006-12-05 Thread BillK
On 12/5/06, Charles D Hixson wrote: BillK wrote: ... Every time someone (subconsciously) decides to do something, their brain presents a list of reasons to go ahead. The reasons against are ignored, or weighted down to be less preferred. This applies to everything from deciding to get

Re: [agi] A question on the symbol-system hypothesis

2006-12-02 Thread BillK
you can do that, then you just don't understand the problem. BillK - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?list_id=303

Re: Re: [agi] A question on the symbol-system hypothesis

2006-11-14 Thread BillK
that in the very early development stages. BillK - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?list_id=303

Re: [agi] Natural versus formal AI interface languages

2006-11-06 Thread BillK
://www.basic-english.org/ Basic English is a selection of 850 English words, used in simple structural patterns, which is both an international auxiliary language and a self-contained first stage for the teaching of any form of wider or Standard English. A subset, no unlearning. BillK

Re: [agi] Natural versus formal AI interface languages

2006-11-01 Thread BillK
in tandem with the speaker. But when the German representative starts speaking they all fall silent and sit staring at him. The reason is that they are waiting for the verb to come along. :) Billk - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your

Re: [agi] SOTA

2006-10-24 Thread BillK
an email to Liang Gu on the IBM MASTOR project team (not really expecting a reply) :) and have just received this response. Sounds hopeful. BillK - Bill, Thanks for your interests on MASTOR. And your suggestion of MASTOR for Children is really great! It is definitely much more

Re: [agi] SOTA

2006-10-19 Thread BillK
generation that take the resultant set of transformed concepts and generate a sentence for the target language; generation of proper inflections by filtering hypotheses with an n-gram statistical language model; etc BillK - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email

Re: [agi] SOTA

2006-10-19 Thread BillK
download of the system in use. Simple speech, but impressive. http://www.research.ibm.com/jam/speech_to_speech.mpg BillK - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [agi] Numenta: article on Jeff Hawkins' AGI approach

2006-06-02 Thread BillK
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