Re: [agi] Growing Knowledge

2018-09-13 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
nce.fr/WordPress3/ his views on AI and his system. Cheers. -- Basile STARYNKEVITCH == http://starynkevitch.net/Basile opinions are mine only - les opinions sont seulement miennes Bourg La Reine, France -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Per

Re: [agi] Here is the sole reason why I don't progress faster

2019-05-27 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
i.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Tbb6d8acb094a551f-M2a9e532a02235e0d711fb856> -- Basile STARYNKEVITCH == http://starynkevitch.net/Basile opinions are mine only - les opinions sont seulement miennes Bourg La Reine, France -- Artificial General Intelligence

Re: [agi] hmu

2019-06-04 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
tps://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Tc47aa10d672cc421-Ma355769a865958e19f60d50c> -- Basile STARYNKEVITCH == http://starynkevitch.net/Basile opinions are mine only - les opinions sont seulement miennes Bourg La Reine, France -- Artificial General Intelligence Lis

Re: [agi] Do Neural Networks Need To Think Like Humans?

2019-05-30 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
. Permalink <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T4aa81fd9912dbd39-Mb9d3336013db16e0f56d8103> -- Basile STARYNKEVITCH == http://starynkevitch.net/Basile opinions are mine only - les opinions sont seulement miennes Bourg La Reine, France -- Arti

Re: [agi] My AGI 2019 paper draft

2019-06-01 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
t; than like Meselson–Stahl experiment <https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meselson%E2%80%93Stahl_experiment> because emergence of intelligence (both natural & artificial) is a slow and evolutive process. Cheers Permalink <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T3cad55ae51

Re: [agi] AI and Deep Learning Group on Telegram

2019-06-06 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
(see https://www.list.org/ for more) or some sympa (see https://www.sympa.org/ for more) and indeed I won't install a proprietary application on my Debian/Linux to read such a list. On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 7:03 AM Basile Starynkevitch mailto:bas...@starynkevitch.net>> wrote: O

Re: [agi] AI and Deep Learning Group on Telegram

2019-06-06 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
ML... I agree with your position, perhaps less with your tone. Cheers -- Basile STARYNKEVITCH == http://starynkevitch.net/Basile opinions are mine only - les opinions sont seulement miennes Bourg La Reine, France -- Artificial General Intelligence

Re: [agi] AI and Deep Learning Group on Telegram

2019-06-06 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
instead? I prefer a publicly archived mailing list, using Sympa or MailmanPermalink <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T1e60c6789e8fb401-M216a6165b05e61f6a6ec1413> -- Basile STARYNKEVITCH == http://starynkevitch.net/Basile opinions are mine only - les opinions sont seulement miennes Bo

Re: [agi] How to prepare an international AI offer

2019-06-16 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
On 6/17/19 5:55 AM, rounce...@hotmail.com wrote: you dont need open cv if you can code it yourself. Actually, an AGI system don't need OpenCV if that AGI system can code it by itself. -- Basile STARYNKEVITCH == http://starynkevitch.net/Basile opinions are mine only - les opinions sont

[agi] Pitrat's blog: “Singularity” is improperly used in AI

2019-06-09 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
http://bootstrappingartificialintelligence.fr/WordPress3/2019/06/singularity-is-improperly-used-in-ai/ is very relevant for AGI Thanks -- Basile STARYNKEVITCH == http://starynkevitch.net/Basile opinions are mine only - les opinions sont seulement miennes Bourg La Reine, France

Re: [agi] test

2019-06-26 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
may give a valuable insight (see notably Roberto Di Cosmo <http://www.dicosmo.org/>'s opinion on these). And that is why I believe that AGI has to be free software Any proprietary approach will fail (because, like nuclear fusion, it cannot be profitable in less than several decades).

Re: [agi] test

2019-06-26 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
On 6/26/19 6:03 PM, Basile Starynkevitch wrote: On 6/26/19 5:21 PM, Stefan Reich via AGI wrote: > Tying to build an AGI using symbolism, spoken language or C++ code for example, IMO is like trying to build a car from cars. (I seem to have a car theme going). I beg to differ. I

Re: [agi] While you were working on AGI...

2019-07-13 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
it is with AGI. It happens slowly enough that you don't even notice. But you forgot the difference between AI & AGI. What we call AGI in 2019 was called AI in the 1990s. Permalink <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Tbee4f4d703cc71ad-M2f172d3608a57abfe8ede2a7> -- Basile STA

Re: [agi] ARGH!!!

2019-06-28 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
are working continuously for an entire career, e.g. several decades. Again, compare the current large AI projects to something like ITER, or the Apollo program. We have no -single- that large and that ambitious software project on Earth. -- Basile STARYNKEVITCH == http://starynkevitch.net

Re: [agi] ARGH!!!

2019-06-28 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
On 6/29/19 7:06 AM, Basile Starynkevitch wrote: On 6/29/19 5:21 AM, Alan Grimes wrote: bas...@starynkevitch.net wrote: An AGI megaproject would require thousands of people working during several decades on it. Costing tens of billions of US$ or ???. As far as I know, it has not started

Re: [agi] ARGH!!!

2019-06-29 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
ve average working week in the USA has increased in the last few decades. -- Basile STARYNKEVITCH == http://starynkevitch.net/Basile opinions are mine only - les opinions sont seulement miennes Bourg La Reine, France -- Artificial General Intelligence

Re: [agi] Narrow AGI

2019-08-14 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
.com/groups/agi/T1ff21f8b11c8c9ae-Mbb5cdbfd0c3e9f31bcfc3da9> -- Basile Starynkevitch (92340 Bourg La Reine, France) http://starynkevitch.net/Basile/ Opinions are only mine - mes opinions ne sont que miennes (tel. mobile: cf my web page / voir ma page web) --

Re: [agi] Narrow AGI

2019-08-14 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
On 8/14/19 10:11 AM, Basile Starynkevitch wrote: On 8/14/19 6:57 AM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies wrote: I was wondering, what is currently regarded as being the best language to develop AI in? It should become a programming language designed by some AGI, and with the implementation

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-08-04 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
roups/agi> + participants <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + delivery options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> Permalink <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Tf27122c71ce3b240-M515cda17e10583c9534d0d2e> -- Basile Starynkevitch (9234

Re: [agi] Narrow AGI

2019-08-11 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
wiley.com/doi/book/10.1002/9780470611791> book. And an AGI system should obviously program itself and have quite powerful software engineering (even AI programming, in the modern sense) skills. The real question is what mentalese should an AGI system uses to program and improve itself. Che

Re: [agi] Narrow AGI

2019-08-11 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
On 8/11/19 10:22 AM, Basile Starynkevitch wrote: On 8/11/19 10:08 AM, Basile Starynkevitch wrote: On 8/10/19 4:50 PM, Stefan Reich via AGI wrote: > Language and mathematics are constructs created by an intelligent system; they are not an insight into how the intelligent system functi

Re: [agi] Re: ConscioIntelligent Thinkings

2019-08-24 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
be sure neither that we are not part of some simulated universe running on some planet-sized computer operated by aliens in some other multiverse. -- Basile STARYNKEVITCH == http://starynkevitch.net/Basile opinions are mine only - les opinions sont seulement miennes Bourg La Reine, France

[agi] scholar references in Russian on AGI & symbolic AI systems

2019-07-15 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
s and annoying messages. I strongly believe that AGI is as difficult to achieve as e.g. a human expedition to Mars, or a controlled nuclear fusion reactor (à la ITER <https://www.iter.org/>). -- Basile STARYNKEVITCH == http://starynkevitch.net/Basile opinions are mine only - les opinions sont

[agi] arXiv endorsement request from Basile Starynkevitch for RefPerSys (a symbolic AGI project - design draft)

2019-11-09 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
Hello all, I would like to submit the draft http://starynkevitch.net/Basile/refpersys-design.pdf to arxiv. Basile Starynkevitch requests your endorsement to submit an article to the cs.AI section of arXiv. To tell us that you would (or would not) like to endorse this person, please visit

[agi] simple open source AI system for Linux to filter out AGI messages

2019-10-20 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
; messages in English related to experimental AGI work, with some open source prototype implementation which could run on Linux. So for me most messages (including this one, what a strange loop <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_a_Strange_Loop>) are crappy. Regards -- Basile STARYNK

[agi] Re: simple open source AI system for Linux to filter out AGI messages

2019-10-20 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
On 10/20/19 1:55 PM, Basile Starynkevitch wrote: Hello List, Does anyone know of some open source simple AI system -running on Linux-  (maybe using simple NLP and machine learning techniques) to filter out the messages this AGI list? Or just some spamassassin or other configuration

Re: [agi] simple open source AI system for Linux to filter out AGI messages

2019-10-20 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
agi/Ta872947168daf2d4-M5e1667bb6f2c4981665acec0> -- Basile STARYNKEVITCH == http://starynkevitch.net/Basile opinions are mine only - les opinions sont seulement miennes Bourg La Reine, France; (mobile phone: cf my web page / voir ma pa

[agi] RIP Jacques Pitrat

2019-10-17 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
al Beings: The Conscience of a Conscious   Machine},   year =     2009,   isbn =     {978-1-848-21101-8},   publisher =     {Wiley ISTE} } -- Basile STARYNKEVITCH == http://starynkevitch.net/Basile opinions are mine only - les opinions sont seulement mienne

[agi] AGI research grant opportunities in the Eurozone

2019-10-23 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
Press3/?s=CAIA>. I have ideas (and even a few thousand lines of code) about an AGI system, free software one, using symbolic artificial intelligence bootstrapping approach. But I need to be funded to work on it a bit more than on weekends. Cheers -- Basile STARYNKEVITCH == http://starynkevitch

Re: [agi] Anyone worked / working on SOAR Cognitive Architecture? Or just requiring help "in general" ...

2019-11-30 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
<https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T7116d9f5c1f0551d-Me0e50014ca995e0fc095d37b> -- Basile STARYNKEVITCH == http://starynkevitch.net/Basile opinions are mine only - les opinions sont seulement miennes Bourg La Reine, France; (mobile phone: cf my web page / voir ma page web...) --

[agi] Re: On AI funding

2020-02-22 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
On 2/22/20 4:30 PM, Basile Starynkevitch wrote: On 2/22/20 4:22 PM, Alan Grimes via AGI wrote: I don't have much to say at this very minute, but I've been holding on to this link for a few days and really should share it: https://www.technologyreview.com/f/615174/the-white-house-will-spend

[agi] slides of talk about AI systems (in memory of Jacques Pitrat)

2020-03-06 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
.org/2117/9600b3f05c0af399f9acbfc6e7b6d24daf03.pdf> paper. The slides I did show are online on http://refpersys.org/Starynkevitch-CAIA-RefPerSys-2020mar06.pdf (of course, I gave the talk in French) -- Basile STARYNKEVITCH == http://starynkevitch.net/Basile opinions are mine only - les opinions so

Re: [agi] How to Code AGI

2020-04-20 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
self observation of its behavior (for example, measure of the virtual address space, of the elapsed time, etc...) See http://refpersys.org/ and http://bootstrappingartificialintelligence.fr/WordPress3/ for more. Read also https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/book/10.1002/9780470611791 -- Basi

Re: [agi] There is such a thing as a Free Lunch

2020-09-30 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
org/> in a few months. Read also the /Artificial Beings: the Conscience of a Conscious Machine /book ISBN 978-1848211018 Cheers -- Basile STARYNKEVITCH == http://starynkevitch.net/Basile opinions are mine only - les opinions sont seulement miennes Bourg La Reine, France; (mobile phone:

Re: [agi] Metaprogramming: the forgotten art.

2020-05-26 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
20-highlight-refpersys.pdf -- Basile STARYNKEVITCH ==http://starynkevitch.net/Basile opinions are mine only - les opinions sont seulement miennes Bourg La Reine, France; (mobile phone: cf my web page / voir ma page web...) -- Artificial General Intelligen

Re: [agi] FYI: ai.gov

2020-12-24 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
in 1934 and died in oct. 2019. His last book Artificial Beings: the Conscience of a Conscious Machine ISBN-13: 978-1848211018 is about AI. And you might be interested by his blog on http://bootstrappingartificialintelligence.fr/WordPress3/ and by http://refpersys.org/ -- Basile

Re: [agi] Comrade Biden.

2021-01-20 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
of that AGI list? I am living in France (near Paris) and I am not concerned (directly) at all by internal US politics. -- Basile Starynkevitch (only mine opinions / les opinions sont miennes uniquement) 92340 Bourg-la-Reine, France web page: starynkevitch.net/Basile

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-09-04 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
s list) The last book of Jacques Pitrat - Artificial Beings: the Conscience of a Conscious Machine ISBN-13: 978-1848211018 should also interest some people from this list. -- Basile Starynkevitch (only mine opinions / les opinions sont miennes uniquement) 92340 Bourg-la-Reine,

Re: [agi] Re: Gazelle financing (and the RefPerSys open source AI system)

2021-08-05 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
.com/groups/agi/Tfaee106f616454ab-M086530f0acacbe2d6b97d916> -- Basile Starynkevitch (only mine opinions / les opinions sont miennes uniquement) 92340 Bourg-la-Reine, France web page: starynkevitch.net/Basile/ -- Artificial General Inte

Re: [agi] Re: Gazelle financing (and the RefPerSys open source AI system)

2021-07-30 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
learn how to use a Microsoft Windows operating system. But I am using Linux both at home and at work since 1993. Regards -- Basile Starynkevitch (only mine opinions / les opinions sont miennes uniquement) 92340 Bourg-la-Reine, France web page: starynkevitch.net/Basile/

Re: [agi] Covid's Over

2021-12-31 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
ry options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> Permalink <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T8c909c6456c0aa24-Mf124fa5c4354a4daafdbddb7> -- Basile Starynkevitch (only mine opinions / les opinions sont miennes uniquement) 92340 Bourg-la-Reine, France web

Re: [agi] Current crypto crash

2022-06-19 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
ants <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + delivery options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> Permalink <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T3cd6d2535f693617-Mad250bb254003d0597f52a49> -- Basile Starynkevitch (only mine opinions / les opinions sont miennes un

Re: [agi] Re: ISO experienced Rust dev to help build AGI

2023-03-06 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
could be even be partly geenerated by RefPerSys itself (as generated C++ or later machine code). Regards -- Basile Starynkevitch (only mine opinions / les opinions sont miennes uniquement) 92340 Bourg-la-Reine, France web page: starynkevitch.net/Basile/ & refpersys