On Friday, June 28, 2019 08:55 CEST, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies
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"Theory: give enough computer scientists enough keyboards and time, and they
will eventually figure out or stumble on whatever it takes to have general
intelligence Experiment: let the world's programmers work on t
On Wednesday, October 23, 2019 09:17 CEST, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies
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Basile. For what it's worth. If I had the funds, I would've enjoyed working
on some building blocks with you. This is the real way forward.
I hope you receive funding for such a worthwhile cause
he is reading this, could he contact me by some English email to
bas...@starynkevitch.net
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On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 14:13 CET, rounce...@hotmail.com wrote:
everything that makes it on the internet is public domain, thats why not
everything is there.
This is wrong. A typical example is the source code of the Linux kernel. It is
GPLv2, not public domain
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uot;nigger".
However, the Linux kernel is running in all Android mobile phones and tablets.
AFAIK, that makes more than a billion people impacted.
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nce.fr/WordPress3/ his views on
AI and his system.
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ynthesis> than like Meselson–Stahl
experiment
<https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meselson%E2%80%93Stahl_experiment>
because emergence of intelligence (both natural & artificial) is a slow
and evolutive process.
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your ML...
I agree with your position, perhaps less with your tone.
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lman (see https://www.list.org/ for more) or
some sympa (see https://www.sympa.org/ for more)
and indeed I won't install a proprietary application on my Debian/Linux
to read such a list.
On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 7:03 AM Basile Starynkevitch
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ggest instead?
I prefer a publicly archived mailing list, using Sympa or
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http://bootstrappingartificialintelligence.fr/WordPress3/2019/06/singularity-is-improperly-used-in-ai/
is very relevant for AGI
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On 6/17/19 5:55 AM, rounce...@hotmail.com wrote:
you dont need open cv if you can code it yourself.
Actually, an AGI system don't need OpenCV if that AGI system can code it
by itself.
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rg/> project may give a valuable insight
(see notably Roberto Di Cosmo <http://www.dicosmo.org/>'s opinion on
these). And that is why I believe that AGI has to be free software
Any proprietary approach will fail (because, like nuclear fusion, it
cannot be profitable in less than
On 6/26/19 6:03 PM, Basile Starynkevitch wrote:
On 6/26/19 5:21 PM, Stefan Reich via AGI wrote:
> Tying to build an AGI using symbolism, spoken language or C++ code
for example, IMO is like trying to build a car from cars. (I seem to
have a car theme going).
I beg to differ. I aim
single software system on
which tens of thousands computer scientist are working continuously for
an entire career, e.g. several decades.
Again, compare the current large AI projects to something like ITER, or
the Apollo program. We have no -single- that large and that ambitious
softwar
On 6/29/19 7:06 AM, Basile Starynkevitch wrote:
On 6/29/19 5:21 AM, Alan Grimes wrote:
bas...@starynkevitch.net wrote:
An AGI megaproject would require thousands of people working during
several decades on it. Costing tens of billions of US$ or ???.
As far as I know, it has not started
nd AFAIK the effective average working week in the USA has
increased in the last few decades.
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7;s how it is with AGI. It happens slowly enough that you don't
even notice.
But you forgot the difference between AI & AGI.
What we call AGI in 2019 was called AI in the 1990s.
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seless and annoying messages. I strongly believe that AGI
is as difficult to achieve as e.g. a human expedition to Mars, or a
controlled nuclear fusion reactor (à la ITER <https://www.iter.org/>).
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rary.wiley.com/doi/book/10.1002/9780470611791> book.
And an AGI system should obviously program itself and have quite
powerful software engineering (even AI programming, in the modern sense)
skills. The real question is what mentalese should an AGI system uses to
program and improve itself.
On 8/11/19 10:08 AM, Basile Starynkevitch wrote:
On 8/10/19 4:50 PM, Stefan Reich via AGI wrote:
> Language and mathematics are constructs created by an intelligent
system; they are not an insight into how the intelligent system
functions.
The interesting and AGi-related question is /
On 8/11/19 10:22 AM, Basile Starynkevitch wrote:
On 8/11/19 10:08 AM, Basile Starynkevitch wrote:
On 8/10/19 4:50 PM, Stefan Reich via AGI wrote:
> Language and mathematics are constructs created by an intelligent
system; they are not an insight into how the intelligent system
functi
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On 8/14/19 10:11 AM, Basile Starynkevitch wrote:
On 8/14/19 6:57 AM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies wrote:
I was wondering, what is currently regarded as being the best
language to develop AI in?
It should become a programming language designed by some AGI, and with
the implementation
sure neither that we are not part of some simulated
universe running on some planet-sized computer operated by aliens in
some other multiverse.
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ificial Beings: The Conscience of a Conscious
Machine},
year = 2009,
isbn = {978-1-848-21101-8},
publisher = {Wiley ISTE}
}
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essages in English related to
experimental AGI work, with some open source prototype implementation
which could run on Linux.
So for me most messages (including this one, what a strange loop
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_a_Strange_Loop>) are crappy.
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On 10/20/19 1:55 PM, Basile Starynkevitch wrote:
Hello List,
Does anyone know of some open source simple AI system -running on
Linux- (maybe using simple NLP and machine learning techniques) to
filter out the messages this AGI list?
Or just some spamassassin or other configuration for
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successful grant proposals
(and right now my bismon
<http://starynkevitch.net/Basile/bismon-chariot-doc.pdf> system is
funded by CHARIOT <https://www.chariotproject.eu/> & DECODER
<https://www.decoder-project.eu/>, two H2020 projects; BTW I do believe
that bismon <http://g
Hello all,
I would like to submit the draft
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ory> of human
intelligence? Is your model sound
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soundness>? (be aware of Rice's theorem
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rice%27s_theorem>).
If yes, please share some references with us.
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The European Commission pretend likewise:
https://www.ai4eu.eu/
https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/artificial-intelligence
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On 2/22/20 4:30 PM, Basile Starynkevitch wrote:
On 2/22/20 4:22 PM, Alan Grimes via AGI wrote:
I don't have much to say at this very minute, but I've been holding on
to this link for a few days and really should share it:
https://www.technologyreview.com/f/615174/the-white-house-
.org/2117/9600b3f05c0af399f9acbfc6e7b6d24daf03.pdf>
paper.
The slides I did show are online on
http://refpersys.org/Starynkevitch-CAIA-RefPerSys-2020mar06.pdf
(of course, I gave the talk in French)
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self observation of its behavior (for example, measure
of the virtual address space, of the elapsed time, etc...)
See http://refpersys.org/ and
http://bootstrappingartificialintelligence.fr/WordPress3/ for more. Read
also https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/book/10.1002/9780470611791
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://refpersys.org/ecai2020-highlight-refpersys.pdf
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Artifi
org/> in a few months.
Read also the /Artificial Beings: the Conscience of a Conscious Machine
/book ISBN 978-1848211018
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in France. He was born in 1934 and died in oct. 2019.
His last book
Artificial Beings: the Conscience of a Conscious Machine
ISBN-13: 978-1848211018
is about AI.
And you might be interested by his blog on
http://bootstrappingartificialintelligence.fr/WordPress3/
and by http://re
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I am living in France (near Paris) and I am not concerned (directly) at
all by internal US politics.
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otivation-
to learn how to use a Microsoft Windows operating system. But I am using
Linux both at home and at work since 1993.
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The last book of Jacques Pitrat -
Artificial Beings: the Conscience of a Conscious Machine
ISBN-13: 978-1848211018
should also interest some people from this list.
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at GC could be even be
partly geenerated by RefPerSys itself (as generated C++ or later machine
code).
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and open source code on https://github.com/RefPerSys/RefPerSys ...) is
developed with these ideas.
Email me for details.
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