e roughly as good as the $46.92 one, and, if not, are you
> > allowed to send me a copy of the better one for free?
> > >
> > > Edward W. Porter
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Subject: Re: [agi] breaking the small hardware mindset
Edward You talk about the Cohen article I quoted as perhaps leading to a
major
> paradigm shift, but actually much of its central thrust is similar to
> ideas that have been around for decades. Cohens gists are
>
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Subject: Re: [agi] breaking the small hardware mindset
Let me answer with an anecdote. I was just in the shop playing with some
small
robot motors and I needed a punch to remove a pin holding a gearbox onto
one
of them. I didn't have a purpose-made punch, so I cast around in the
tool
Let me answer with an anecdote. I was just in the shop playing with some small
robot motors and I needed a punch to remove a pin holding a gearbox onto one
of them. I didn't have a purpose-made punch, so I cast around in the toolbox
until Aha! an object close enough to use. (It was a small ratta
On 10/4/07, J Storrs Hall, PhD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday 04 October 2007 11:52:01 am, Vladimir Nesov wrote:
> > Analogy-making can be reformulated as other problems, so even if it's
> > not named this way it's still associated with many approaches to
> > learning. Recalling relevant
Edward You talk about the Cohen article I quoted as perhaps leading to a
major
paradigm shift, but actually much of its central thrust is similar to
ideas that have been around for decades. Cohens gists are surprisingly
similar to the scripts Schank was talking about circa 1980.
Josh: And
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On 10/4/07, Edward W. Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Josh,
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> (Talking of "breaking the small hardware mindset," thank god for the
> company with the
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Subject: Re: [agi] breaking the small hardware mindset
On Thursday 04 October 2007 10:56:59 am, Edward W. Porter wrote:
> You appear to know more on the subject of current analogy drawing
> research than me. So could you please explain to me what are the major
> current problems people
On Thursday 04 October 2007 01:57:22 pm, Edward W. Porter wrote:
> You talk about the Cohen article I quoted as perhaps leading to a major
> paradigm shift, but actually much of its central thrust is similar to
> ideas that have been around for decades. Cohens gists are surprisingly
> similar t
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On Thursday 04 October 2007 10:56:59 am, Edward W. Porter wrote:
> You appear to know more on the subject of current analogy drawing research
> than me. So could you please explain to me what are the major current
> problems people are having in trying figure out how to draw analogies
> using a str
On Thursday 04 October 2007 11:52:01 am, Vladimir Nesov wrote:
> Analogy-making can be reformulated as other problems, so even if it's
> not named this way it's still associated with many approaches to
> learning. Recalling relevant knowledge is about the same thing as
> analogy-making, and in life
Edward P: II skimmed “LGIST: Learning Generalized Image Schemas for Transfer
Thrust D Architecture Report”, by Carole Beal and Paul Cohen at the USC
Information Sciences Institute. It was one of the PDFs listed on the web
link you sent me (at
http://eksl.isi.edu/files/papers/cohen_2006_1160084
On 10/4/07, J Storrs Hall, PhD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Research in analogy-making is slow -- I can only think of Gentner and
> Hofstadter and their groups as major movers. We don't have a solid theory of
> analogy yet (structure-mapping to the contrary notwithstanding). It's clearly
> central,
On Thursday 04 October 2007 10:42:46 am, Mike Tintner wrote:
> ... I find
> no general sense of the need for a major paradigm shift. It should be
> obvious that a successful AGI will transform and revolutionize existing
> computational paradigms ...
I find it difficult to imagine a developmen
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Mike Tintner wrote:
>My impression is everyone's clinging to
>existing paradigms, even though they obviously don't work for AGI as opposed
>to AI. By all means disabuse me and point to someone contemplating such a
>shift.
>
You just pointed us to one (!): Paul Cohen (see
http://www.isi.edu/~
Josh: One main reason I support the development of AGI as a serious subfield
is not
that I think any specific approach here is likely to work (even mine), but
that there is a willingness to experiment and a tolerance for new and
odd-sounding ideas that spells a renaissance of science in AI.
Well
On Wednesday 03 October 2007 09:37:58 pm, Mike Tintner wrote:
> I disagree also re how much has been done. I don't think AGI - correct me -
has solved a single creative problem - e.g. creativity - unprogrammed
adaptivity - drawing analogies - visual object recognition - NLP - concepts -
creat
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Edward:The bigges
MessageEdward:The biggest brick wall is the small-hardware mindset that has
been absolutely necessary for decades to get anything actually accomplished on
the hardware of the day
Completely disagree. It's that purely numerical mindset about small/big
hardware that I see as so widespread and tha
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