DIS: Re: OFF: Short Logical Ruleset

2013-01-19 Thread Charles Reiss
On 1/13/13 12:34 PM, omd wrote: THE SHORT LOGICAL RULESET Last updated: 16 October 2012 Last proposal with recorded effect on this ruleset: 7317 Last change to this ruleset: by Rule 2380 Last ratification: Short Logical Ruleset of 24 June 2012 Last ratification date: 7 July 2012

DIS: Re: BUS: Intents

2013-01-19 Thread Charles Reiss
On 1/14/13 6:54 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: For each of the following players, I intent, without objection, to make em inactive: Arkady FKA441344 moonroof Phlogistique Yally (None have sent a message to the lists in at least 2 months as far as I can tell, some of them as much as 5

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Protect Assets

2011-08-01 Thread Charles Reiss
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 08:18, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 July 2011 23:54, Charles Reiss woggl...@gmail.com wrote: Set the power of rule 2166 (Assets) to 3. [Rationale: promises are assets at Power 3, so the defining rule needs to be, too.] Why? Many of the asset

DIS: Proto: Payment

2011-07-31 Thread Charles Reiss
Background: Currently, one can pay two FINE and a Spending Action with the same Points. Proposal: Payment (AI = 2) {{ Create a new rule titled Payment with Power 2 and the following text: To pay a unit of an asset is to destroy that unit while designating exactly one purpose (such as

Re: DIS: This message may not have been sent by

2011-07-01 Thread Charles Reiss
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 05:08, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 June 2011 17:34, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: I'm now seeing this on the first message in any thread to the lists if it was

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 3035-36 assigned to woggle

2011-06-19 Thread Charles Reiss
Proto-judgement follows: On 6/17/11 8:34 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=3035 == CFJ 3035 == At least one vote of FOR, FOR on the decision to adopt Proposal 7077 is valid.

DIS: Re: BUS: A New Idea

2010-04-14 Thread Charles Reiss
On 4/14/10 12:45 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: Proposal: The Gameplay-o-Matic (AI=1.9, II=2) {{{ Enact a new Rule with power 1.9, entitled Fragments, with the following text: {{ If - e has not already done so, or - if at least two other players done so so e last did so, or

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: In before Kelly

2010-03-23 Thread Charles Reiss
On 3/23/10 8:22 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: Proposal: In before Kelly (AI = 1, II = 0, please) Amend Rule 2287 (Props) by replacing this text: Once per week, each player CAN transfer a prop from one player to another, with this text: Once per week, each player CAN

Re: DIS: Intentionally ttdf

2009-10-13 Thread Charles Reiss
On 10/13/09 10:06 AM, Alex Smith wrote: I call for judgement on the statement It is possible to submit a Call for Judgement by sending a message to a Discussion Forum., submitting it to the Justiciar. Arguments: The Justiciar probably reads the discussion fora, at least occasionally, so is

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2693 assigned to BobTHJ

2009-09-24 Thread Charles Reiss
On 9/23/09 11:50 PM, Pavitra wrote: Roger Hicks wrote: This judge's opinion is that such a Hard Deregistration is exercised by the player ceasing to be involved in the Agoran forums and essentially ignoring the game. When such occurs, R101 vii is fulfilled as Agora makes no attempt to impose

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2688 assigned to BobTHJ

2009-09-16 Thread Charles Reiss
On 9/16/09 12:08 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2688 = Criminal Case 2688 = ais523 violated the Power-1 rule 1742 by failing to act in accordance with the PerlNomic Partnership

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Justiciar] CFJ 2670a assigned to BobTHJ, Wooble, ehird

2009-09-10 Thread Charles Reiss
On 9/10/09 4:32 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: coppro wrote: Ed Murphy wrote: comex wrote: Appeal 2670a Panelist: BobTHJ Decision: Panelist: Wooble Decision: Panelist:

DIS: Re: BUS: AAA and IBA actions

2009-08-24 Thread Charles Reiss
On 8/23/09 2:48 PM, Charles Reiss wrote: [snip] I harvest 2663, 2664 (recent CFJ numbers) for 4 WRV. These harvests failed because I harvested those CFJ numbers earlier in the week (and apparently didn't remember that I did this). - woggle signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2628-29 assigned to woggle

2009-07-10 Thread Charles Reiss
On 7/10/09 10:39 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: Charles Reiss wrote: On 7/9/09 10:58 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2628 == CFJ 2628 == My judicial rank is 4

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6395-6402

2009-07-06 Thread Charles Reiss
On 7/6/09 10:06 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: [snip] That aside, it's a more general issue. Let's say I have a detailed private contract with all sorts of economic and political manipulations. One small part of that is an act on behalf of. When it happens, all the public needs to know is that the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cleanup

2009-07-05 Thread Charles Reiss
On 7/5/09 10:01 AM, C-walker wrote: On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Charles Reiss woggl...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/5/09 6:54 AM, C-walker wrote: [snip] I submit the following proposal: {{ Contract Cleanup (AI = 2, II = 0) Terminate each non-pledge Public contract which does

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [LPRS] Null Pointer

2009-07-05 Thread Charles Reiss
On 7/5/09 1:16 PM, Benjamin Caplan wrote: Charles Reiss wrote: On 7/5/09 12:42 PM, Benjamin Caplan wrote: Having received the necessary consent, I cause the LPRS to intend with Agoran Consent to register. I support. You CANNOT. Yes I can. The LPRS is the initiator of the intent

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A wisp of vapor escapes the fountain...

2009-06-17 Thread Charles Reiss
On 6/16/09 6:55 PM, Paul VanKoughnett wrote: On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Sean Huntride...@gmail.com wrote: Paul VanKoughnett wrote: I agree to the following: { This is a Public Legalistic contract and a pledge, called Three Coins. Parties to Three Coins are called Marvy. For

DIS: Re: BUS: The Conservative Party

2009-06-02 Thread Charles Reiss
On 6/2/09 3:38 PM, Alex Smith wrote: On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 00:12 -0500, Benjamin Caplan wrote: 3. Immediately after an Agoran Decision is initiated, the Conservative Party acts on behalf of each of its parties to cause that party to vote on that decision with the option selected being

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Insulator] Report

2009-05-25 Thread Charles Reiss
On 5/25/09 5:28 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: woggle wrote: !05/19:001 17:16 comex Wooble 22038forgery CoE: This notice was invalid. The crime it named, Forgery, is not specified by the rules. The NoV named Endorsing Forgery, which is specified by the rules;

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-25 Thread Charles Reiss
On 5/25/09 5:52 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: [snip] ps. court cases raised about a document should block ratification, not just self-ratificatation; generalization of R2201 in order here? I don't think that's a good idea unless CFJs raised about a document can be more clearly/objectively identified.

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Fix contract problems

2009-05-11 Thread Charles Reiss
On 5/10/09 2:54 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: Proposal: Fix contract problems (AI = 2, please) Change the power of Rule 2136 (Contests) to 2. [This fixes two bugs: R2198 allows contestmaster to be flipped, and secures the flipping of contract switches so that R2136 cannot allow contestmaster to

Re: DIS: Proto-Contract: Industrial Bank Agora

2009-05-03 Thread Charles Reiss
On 5/2/09 5:23 PM, comex wrote: On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Charles Reiss woggl...@gmail.com wrote: Also, I rather dislike the bias here towards currencies denominated in large units. How about a little less such bias, like: I thought about having it depending on zm

Re: DIS: Proto-Contract: Industrial Bank Agora

2009-05-02 Thread Charles Reiss
On 5/2/09 3:09 PM, comex wrote: On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: Add auto rates and I'm sold. I'm explicitly not including auto rates in this. I actually think the PBA did pretty well, but my highest priority is preventing scams--

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Decriminalize restricted actions

2009-04-29 Thread Charles Reiss
On 4/28/09 4:01 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: I retract the previous version of this proposal. Proposal: Decriminalize restricted actions (AI = 3, please) Amend Rule 2125 (Regulation Regulations) by replacing this text: d) The rules explicitly state that it MAY be performed while

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: http://irc.freenode.net:6667/#%23nomic no longer a forum

2009-04-10 Thread Charles Reiss
On 4/10/09 10:08 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: ##nomic doesn't work for me either. Besides, Rule 478 says the publicity of a forum can be changed by the Registrar without objection by announcing intent to change it to that forum. But that forum is inaccessible so this is hardly possible. I assure

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2443 assigned to Yally

2009-04-08 Thread Charles Reiss
On 4/8/09 10:04 AM, Alex Smith wrote: On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 20:37 -0500, Aaron Goldfein wrote: FALSE; Rule 2110 states that: A tortoise is an inquiry case on the possibility or legality of a rule-defined action. However, CFJ 2423 has determined what has happened, not whether

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2383a assigned to woggle, comex, Goethe

2009-02-26 Thread Charles Reiss
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:41, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, Charles Reiss wrote: And even if the above were not the better interpretation, surely the ambiguity on this matter would be sufficient to fail to satisfy R1504's condition (d) the Accused could have

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2383a assigned to woggle, comex, Goethe

2009-02-26 Thread Charles Reiss
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 13:01, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, Charles Reiss wrote: On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:41, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: (d) deliberately does not care about what the defendent actually thinks, only what e could have thought

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2383a assigned to woggle, comex, Goethe

2009-02-26 Thread Charles Reiss
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 16:26, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, Charles Reiss wrote: On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 13:01, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, Charles Reiss wrote: On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:41, Kerim Aydin ke

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2383a assigned to woggle, comex, Goethe

2009-02-26 Thread Charles Reiss
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 18:08, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, Charles Reiss wrote: I think plainly this is not what R1504(d) says since it considers whether some hypothetical situation exists where the defendent could have believed it did not violate the rule

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2383a assigned to woggle, comex, Goethe

2009-02-26 Thread Charles Reiss
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 21:01, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: [snip] And what's wrong with addressing this in a sentencing appeal, anyway (e.g. yes e technically could have known, but it's because e took the advice of others, so DISCHARGE is just fine).  I'm leery of setting

DIS: Re: BUS: Appeals Errors

2009-02-05 Thread Charles Reiss
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:49, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: [snip] Proposal: Patch 2321a (AI = 2, II = 0, please) Ratify the alleged history listed in these documents: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2321a http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2321

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [AAA] Agriculture Report

2009-02-04 Thread Charles Reiss
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 17:18, Benjamin Schultz ke...@verizon.net wrote: On Feb 4, 2009, at 8:15 PM, Charles Reiss wrote: On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 17:02, Benjamin Schultz ke...@verizon.net wrote: On Feb 4, 2009, at 9:22 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: Crop/WRV Holdings Player 0 1 2 3

Re: DIS: Partnerships + zombies = corporations?

2009-02-03 Thread Charles Reiss
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 14:15, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Proto-proto: Zombies Incorporated. [The following would take enacting several mechanisms; e.g. shares, auctions, maybe debts. Therefore soliciting expressions of interest before continuing]. 1. Cleanup: All

Re: DIS: Partnerships + zombies = corporations?

2009-02-03 Thread Charles Reiss
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 17:12, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Charles Reiss wrote: d. Key Power: *Any* shareholder (member or non member) may act on behalf of the corporation with the support of [shareholders adding up to a majority

Re: DIS: Partnerships + zombies = corporations?

2009-02-03 Thread Charles Reiss
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 18:00, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Charles Reiss wrote: Which reminds me, one needs to consider how to deal with a corporation owning its own shares. Manumission? When real corporations do this, it's to decrease the number of shares

DIS: Re: BUS: Rebellion or, Hi Chuck

2009-01-26 Thread Charles Reiss
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:04, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: I move to Beer Hall. I become Rebellious. [snip] I publish the following. Each of BobTHJ, woggle, OscarMeyr violated Rule 2157 by failing to act collectively to ensure the panel assigned a judgement to CFJ 2027a ASAP [15 days,

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Committees

2009-01-11 Thread Charles Reiss
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 14:05, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Proposal: Committees (AI = 3, II = 2, please) [snip] first-class players whose judicial rank is Supreme and whose posture is standing or standing) Oops?

Re: DIS: Proto: Committees

2009-01-08 Thread Charles Reiss
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 00:32, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Proto-Proposal: Committees (AI = 3, II = 2, please) Create a rule titled Committees with Power 3 and this text: Each rule is assigned to zero or more committees. Changing whether a rule is assigned to a

DIS: Re: BUS: Brian's DiploNomic Report

2008-12-22 Thread Charles Reiss
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 19:45, Warrigal ihope12...@gmail.com wrote: The following proposal passed, with Warrigal voting FOR it and nobody voting AGAINST it: {Append the following paragraph to Plate 1, Agora: Any Player can send a public message to Agora with support and without 2 objections

Re: DIS: Proto: Increase privatization

2008-12-19 Thread Charles Reiss
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 20:44, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Proto-Proposal: Increase privatization (AI = 2, II = 3, please) [snip] Create a rule titled Laundromats with Power 2 and this text: Cleanliness is a public contract switch with values Unclean (default) and

Re: DIS: Proto: Increase privatization

2008-12-19 Thread Charles Reiss
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 23:25, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: woggle wrote: Cleanliness is a public contract switch with values Unclean (default) and Clean. Changes to Cleanliness are secured. tracked by whom? The Janitor. * Murphy and the AFO agree to the following

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Contract precedence

2008-12-02 Thread Charles Reiss
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 13:40, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I withdraw the previous version of this proposal titled Fix asset redefinition, and submit the following revised version. Proposal: Contract precedence (AI = 2, please) woggle is a co-author of this proposal. Create a new

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Fix asset redefinition

2008-12-01 Thread Charles Reiss
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:57, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Proposal: Fix asset redefinition (AI = 2, please) Amend Rule 2166 (Assets) by replacing this text: An asset is an entity defined as such by a rule or contract (hereafter its backing document), and existing solely

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Fix asset redefinition

2008-12-01 Thread Charles Reiss
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:08, Charles Reiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:57, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Proposal: Fix asset redefinition (AI = 2, please) Amend Rule 2166 (Assets) by replacing this text: An asset is an entity defined as such by a rule

Re: DIS: Proto: Subgame/Contest: The Evolution of Cooperation

2008-11-26 Thread Charles Reiss
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 09:15, Elliott Hird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26 Nov 2008, at 17:05, Roger Hicks wrote: I believe that Mono is the .NET library ported to unix based systems. I could be wrong however. Yes, but you can't use a Windows binary. And revealing source would damage the

DIS: Re: BUS: Philosophy

2008-11-25 Thread Charles Reiss
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 08:52, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I CFJ on the statement The Ambassador CAN flip Wooble's Recognition to Friendly without objection.. Arguments: This is really about whether Wooble is a nomic or not, phrased such that I have a miniscule chance of a random Win

Re: DIS: Proto: Subgame/Contest: The Evolution of Cooperation

2008-11-25 Thread Charles Reiss
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 22:19, Jamie Dallaire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 3:26 AM, Charles Reiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 23:53, Pavitra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have more interest if it was in a toy language like Befunge. I don't

Re: DIS: Proto: Subgame/Contest: The Evolution of Cooperation

2008-11-25 Thread Charles Reiss
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 22:44, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 23:32, Charles Reiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's what I'd expect in this form given that expecting people to know how to program usually isn't considered unreasonable. But, of course

Re: DIS: Proto: Subgame/Contest: The Evolution of Cooperation

2008-11-23 Thread Charles Reiss
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 23:53, Pavitra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 22 November 2008 08:58:16 am Joshua Boehme wrote: On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:24:52 -0500 Jamie Dallaire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cross posting because I figure there could be interest on both sides. If need be this can

Re: DIS: I was bored, so I wrote this

2008-11-20 Thread Charles Reiss
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 17:32, Warrigal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rule 101 (power 1): [snip] Every actor has the right to not be considered bound by an agreement, or an amendment to an agreement, which e has not had the reasonable opportunity to review. Maybe you want to legisilate whether the

Re: DIS: Proto: Agora Smock Exchange

2008-11-19 Thread Charles Reiss
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 18:31, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sgeo wrote: Wouldn't it be best then to always buy Linen Smocks and Cotton Smocks, and sell them at the end of the month, and repeat? Blah, you're right. Maybe smock - shekel conversion should only be allowed during the

Re: DIS: Proto: Agora Smock Exchange

2008-11-19 Thread Charles Reiss
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 20:35, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: woggle wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 18:31, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sgeo wrote: Wouldn't it be best then to always buy Linen Smocks and Cotton Smocks, and sell them at the end of the month, and repeat? Blah,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Enigma] This week's moderately difficult puzzles

2008-11-12 Thread Charles Reiss
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 07:36, Alex Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 06:56 -0500, Joshua Boehme wrote: Contestmaster ais523, what is the current membership of Enigma? the Left Hand, Murphy, root, Iammars, Wooble, Goethe, avpx, Zefram, Pavitra, ais523, comex, Elysion,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: A modest contract

2008-11-04 Thread Charles Reiss
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 16:25, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 4 Nov 2008, comex wrote: I cease to agree with this. How? It was never a contract (would need two parties), so e can as an unregulated action. -woggle

Re: DIS: Partnership models

2008-10-26 Thread Charles Reiss
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 22:00, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Revisiting my B.N. thesis (11/29/07) on partnerships, I've identified the following general models of partnership control. Can anyone think of any others? * Consentual (e.g. Pineapple, Human Point Two) * Capitalist (e.g.

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2216-17 assigned to woggle

2008-10-19 Thread Charles Reiss
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 22:44, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I change all sitting players to standing. Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2216 == CFJ 2216 == If only Murphy had been given the password

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: It's reasonable, I think. (PBA)

2008-10-17 Thread Charles Reiss
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 13:21, Elliott Hird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17 Oct 2008, at 21:18, Charles Reiss wrote: I object. -woggle Why? I don't believe the proposed scheme would make exchange rates more closely reflect real values. (Though there is some relationship between the values

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A case of problematic precedence

2008-10-16 Thread Charles Reiss
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 17:08, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 17:56, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I join Nomic Wars I. I add the following section to Nomic Wars I: { Sections with lower Ratings take precedence over sections with higher Ratings; Sections of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: banking

2008-10-14 Thread Charles Reiss
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:49, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:28, Charles Reiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I object. I suggest Pavitra try the uncontroversial part of this change alone if you won't. Just curious: Why the objections? As RBOA chit holders

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Breaking the rules

2008-10-04 Thread Charles Reiss
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 20:41, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I submit the following proposal, Partner Responsibility, AI-2: -- Amend Rule 2145 by appending the following text: If a judge finds a partnership

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: AAA - Secretary of Agriculture Report

2008-10-03 Thread Charles Reiss
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 12:17, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 15:45, Ben Caplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well... flaming bobba smurf. All right. Let's see what I've got here. FARMER 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 X WRV Pavitra 8 5 6

DIS: Re: BUS: A Great Relief

2008-10-03 Thread Charles Reiss
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 14:53, ihope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 5:45 PM, ihope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I submit the following proposal, titled A Great Relief, with adoption index 3: Repeal all rules except Rules 101, 104, 217, and 2029. I retract that proposal. I submit

Re: DIS: Re: Proto-contract: The Llama Party

2008-10-03 Thread Charles Reiss
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 16:31, ihope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:30 PM, ihope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: {The name of this contract is The Llama Party. This is a public contract. Parties to this contract are known as Llamas. Any person CAN join this contract with the consent

Re: DIS: Re: Proto-contract: The Llama Party

2008-10-03 Thread Charles Reiss
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 16:54, ihope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Charles Reiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 16:31, ihope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:30 PM, ihope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: {The name of this contract

DIS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5708-5726

2008-10-02 Thread Charles Reiss
I vote as follows: On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 11:23, The PerlNomic Partnership [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NUM C I AI SUBMITTER TITLE 5708 O 1 1.0 comex none AGAINST x 2 5709 D 1 2.0 Murphy Form 2126-EZ AGAINST 5710 D 3 3.0 Murphy Pragmatic rights

Re: DIS: RE: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Promotor] Distribution of proposal 5707

2008-10-01 Thread Charles Reiss
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 09:26, Alexander Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wooble wrote: How much clearer could it be than specifying the exact ID number of the proposal it intended to democritize? The intent is to democratise a decision, not a proposal. The decision in question didn't exist,

DIS: Re: BUS: RE: another CFJ on the vote market

2008-10-01 Thread Charles Reiss
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 11:19, Alexander Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wooble wrote: I CFJ on the following statements, barring ais523: I CFJ on the following statement, barring root: A vote that relies on terminology defined in a public contract satisfies R683(c)'s requirement to clearly

Re: DIS: RE: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Promotor] Distribution of proposal 5707

2008-10-01 Thread Charles Reiss
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 12:41, Alexander Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CoE: The publisher of the above CoE is not the Assessor. (The assessor didn't publish the original document, so e can't usefully deny CoEs on it anyways.) I don't think that's a genuine CoE (it's not obvious what it's

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: AAA - Secretary of Agriculture Report

2008-09-25 Thread Charles Reiss
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 10:47, Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Ben Caplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the following series of actions would otherwise fail as a whole, then I take none of them. I dunno. Verification of these by the recordkeepors would require

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: AAA: Subsidy

2008-09-24 Thread Charles Reiss
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 16:17, Benjamin Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 24, 2008, at 7:14 PM, Benjamin Schultz wrote: I think I have this right: Almost. PF. I mill 8 * 5 = 7. I mill 8 - 8 = 0. The RBoA would've happily exchanged an 8 crop for a 0 crop and some chits...

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: why wait?

2008-09-24 Thread Charles Reiss
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 22:37, Ben Caplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 24 September 2008 08:20:35 am Geoffrey Spear wrote: I recommend a sentence of EXILE with a tariff of 180 days. R1504 prescribes the middle of the tariff range... for severe rule breaches amounting to a breach of

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ

2008-09-23 Thread Charles Reiss
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:17, Jeff Weston (Sir Toby) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I CFJ on the following statement: The message sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:16:23 + (see evidence 1) was successful in initiating a CFJ. I argue for a FALSE judgement in this case. The

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2164 assigned to Sir Toby

2008-09-23 Thread Charles Reiss
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 01:27, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, I'm using HRC as a database placeholder. If the initiator remains anonymous, I will eventually create a separate entry labeled '(anonymous person)' and update the DB to use it for this case. Detail:

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2164 assigned to Sir Toby

2008-09-23 Thread Charles Reiss
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:55, Geoffrey Spear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Charles Reiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Claim of Error: Sir Toby may be the initiator of this CFJ and so this assignment of Sir Toby as judge may have been INEFFECTIVE. Would Sir Toby

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgements, CFJs 2086 and 2087

2008-09-16 Thread Charles Reiss
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 12:04, ais523 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 12:01 -0700, Charles Reiss wrote: I also support the appeal of CFJ 2086-7. As root has stated, long-standing game custom allows the actions of a message to have some ordering in legal time even though

DIS: Re: BUS: New Cards v0.2

2008-09-10 Thread Charles Reiss
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:12, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Proto-Proposal: a Card Party (new cards v0.2), AI-2: (root would you accept coauthorship?) - Create the following Rule, Cards, power 2: Cards are

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2107 judged GUILTY (no sentence yet) by woggle

2008-09-08 Thread Charles Reiss
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 03:43, ihope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2107 = Criminal Case 2107 = Ivan Hope violated R2149

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: corporate motions

2008-09-08 Thread Charles Reiss
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:00, Geoffrey Spear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Geoffrey Spear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I post the following Motions for each of the Brown, Burnt Sienna, Beige, and Burgundy Corporations: {{ Authorize the CEO to cause the corporation to

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2107b assigned to OscarMeyr, Murphy, root

2008-09-08 Thread Charles Reiss
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 16:09, Benjamin Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see any commentary from H. Trial Judge woggle in the reevaluation of CFJ 2107. Is the COTC database lagging me out again? I don't think I made any commentary to agora-business (check agora-discussion archives for

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2082a assigned to root, woggle, Wooble

2008-09-07 Thread Charles Reiss
On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 19:41, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2082a Appeal 2082a Panelist: root Decision: Panelist:

DIS: Re: BUS: Does SHALL imply CAN?

2008-09-04 Thread Charles Reiss
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 10:47, ais523 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I call for judgement on the following statement: This CFJ has ID number 2146. I act on behalf of the Monster to deputise for the CotC to assign that CFJ an ID number of 2146. I call for judgement on the following statement: This

DIS: Re: BUS: Does SHALL imply CAN?

2008-09-04 Thread Charles Reiss
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 10:47, ais523 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I call for judgement on the following statement: This CFJ has ID number 2146. I act on behalf of the Monster to deputise for the CotC to assign that CFJ an ID number of 2146. I call for judgement on the following statement: This

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2107 assigned to woggle

2008-08-26 Thread Charles Reiss
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 16:26, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I change all sitting players to standing. Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2107 = Criminal Case 2107 = Ivan Hope violated R2149 by making the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5673-5673

2008-08-18 Thread Charles Reiss
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 15:10, ais523 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 14:07 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: ais523 wrote: On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 15:38 -0700, The PerlNomic Partnership wrote: NUM C I AI SUBMITTER TITLE I vote as follows 5673 D 2 3.1 fds

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Banking, Farming, and RBoA amendment

2008-08-17 Thread Charles Reiss
On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 07:17, Geoffrey Spear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Charles Reiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: X crops - 135 chits (no previous rate) This should probably be higher What would you suggest? - woggle

DIS: Re: BUS: AAA - Secretary of Agriculture Report

2008-08-15 Thread Charles Reiss
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 13:25, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 9:00 PM, Charles Reiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 14:26, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AGORAN AGRICULTURAL ASSOCIATION REPORT Time of last report: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:50

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2132a assigned to woggle, comex, BobTHJ

2008-08-13 Thread Charles Reiss
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 19:12, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Charles Reiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I intend, with the consent of the rest of the panel, to REMAND this case to Sgeo, so that e might judge the case again while thinking more clearly, and also

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Repeal Rule 101!

2008-08-12 Thread Charles Reiss
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 04:39, Elliott Hird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Proposal: Repeal Rule 101! Adoption index: 3. Interest index: 1. [Before we start, let me please justify this. Rule 101 is broken. Firstly, we are on a game played via computers. Really, we have no inherent rights at

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Repeal Rule 101!

2008-08-12 Thread Charles Reiss
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 10:07, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Charles Reiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [*] Lower-power rules notion of agreement is largely influenced by the properties they ascribe to contracts, but if we let these characterize agreements

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Repeal Rule 101!

2008-08-12 Thread Charles Reiss
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 12:08, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In tusho's proposal, the power 3.1 Rule doesn't actually repeal 101 when the rule is created. It enables the Repealing, but it doesn't do it. So that step

Re: DIS: Proto: partnership enforcement

2008-08-11 Thread Charles Reiss
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:08, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe the best way to ensure partnerships live up to obligations may be to allow equity to work on claims: Proto: Partnership equity, power-2 Amend Rule

Re: DIS: Proto: partnership enforcement

2008-08-11 Thread Charles Reiss
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:43, Geoffrey Spear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Charles Reiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the original contract envisioned not devolving the obligation well onto the parties (quite likely, in fact), then I don't see what resolution

DIS: Re: BUS: Evil foodstuffs, minus foods

2008-08-09 Thread Charles Reiss
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 21:43, ihope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree to the following: {This is a public contract known as The Normish Partnership. Any entity CAN cause TNP to act by causing Normish (a.k.a. rootnomic, which, as of August 9, 2008, was a server located at 209.20.80.194 and

Re: DIS: Way to get back some VP?

2008-08-09 Thread Charles Reiss
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 22:10, Sgeo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is NOT a pledge, an agreement, a promise, or anything else. I'm thinking maybe SELL ticket 10VP, with which, for 1 week, the filler can act on my behalf except for the actions of transfering VP or judging a certain way on CFJs

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PNP Voting

2008-08-07 Thread Charles Reiss
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 08:09, ihope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 11:51 PM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The PerlNomic Partnership wrote: The PerlNomic Partnership votes as follows. Each vote is made a number of times equal to the PerlNomic Partnership's EVLOD on

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Nethack.

2008-08-06 Thread Charles Reiss
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 11:30, Geoffrey Spear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In an equity case, this sort of word-twisting is not appropriate, if the Nethack sense of ascend was understood to be the relevant term in the spirit

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: AAA emergency!

2008-08-05 Thread Charles Reiss
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 11:16, Geoffrey Spear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:04 PM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been over a week since all the other CFJs were created. s/created/assigned ID numbers/ The CotC is behind; calling more CFJs may or may not be likely to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgements on CFJs 2094 and 2095

2008-08-01 Thread Charles Reiss
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 09:27, ais523 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 12:43 -0600, Charles Reiss wrote: I intend to appeal the judgment of CFJ 2094 with 2 support. I intend to appeal the judgment of CFJ 2095 with 2 support. I recommend REASSIGN due to the corruptive self

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