Re: DIS: Proto: Nomicbots

Haha, I love that. Screwing with other's Nomicbots. Also "Duel" is a horrible term for it lol, "Match" or "Battle" something would be better : P Anyways, with your input into my derpy draft, here is a more refined and decent version: (I want to add the linear cost increase to consonants/vowels

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Loot!

Right. But I honestly didn't receive that message where you moved. When did you send it?​ On 18:52, Feb 26, 2018, at 18:52, Cuddle Beam wrote: >And that "ALL" is zero. > >On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:50 PM, Corona >wrote: > >> (To clarify) I pick

Re: DIS: Proto: Nomicbots

Comments inline Gaelan > On Feb 26, 2018, at 10:09 AM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > Haha, I love that. Screwing with other's Nomicbots. > > Also "Duel" is a horrible term for it lol, "Match" or "Battle" something > would be better : P > > Anyways, with your input into my

Re: DIS: Requests for Annotation

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > I also massively disagree with CFJ 3580, for the " Agora exists > > platonically, and so can exist without the rest of reality" thing, for the > > same reasons that CFJ 3622 gave that judgement. Hi CuddleBeam, I wanted to come back to this a little

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Loot!

No worries, I was just trying to become the autocrat of Arcadia, like all of us, but thanks. By the way, have you received my CoE on your report? It's telling me it's been sent, but I haven't received it back.​ On 19:02, Feb 26, 2018, at 19:02, Reuben Staley wrote:

Re: DIS: Proto: Nomicbots

Bots live in a subgame—they can't vote on "real" proposals. Gaelan > On Feb 26, 2018, at 8:15 AM, Reuben Staley wrote: > > This proposal is full of holes. To list a few: > > Do bots use their creator's voting power or do they have their own? If the > former, these

Re: DIS: Proto: Nomicbots

If that's true, it really needs to make that more clear in the proposal because I missed it entirely on my first read-through. El 26 feb. 2018 10:24, "Gaelan Steele" escribió: > Bots live in a subgame—they can't vote on "real" proposals. > > Gaelan > > > On Feb 26, 2018, at

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Feb 25 Land Auction and an Announcement.

Frick. That was definitely supposed to be (0, -1). Oh well. Also, I'm allowed to substitute 1 corn for 3 apples. But I guess since the moved were ineffective, I have destroyed none of my assets. El 26 feb. 2018 11:46, "Cuddle Beam" escribió: > You can't move from (+1,0) to

DIS: Re: BUS: Loot!

Sorry, I did it before you! On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:46 PM, Corona wrote: > I move to (0,+1) and then to (+1,+1), destroying an apple for each step. > I then pick up all the apples and lumber from the orchard on (+1,+1). > I then move to (0,+1) and then to (-1,+1),

DIS: Can I come back yet?

I forget when I deregistered. When am I allowed to reregister?

Re: DIS: Can I come back yet?

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018, ATMunn wrote: > I forget when I deregistered. When am I allowed to reregister? > Not quite! Your deregistration timestamp was Thu, 8 Feb 2018 21:28:52 -0500 -the very late-with-report Registrar

DIS: Re: BUS: Loot!

And that "ALL" is zero. On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:50 PM, Corona wrote: > (To clarify) I pick up ALL the stones and ore from the mine on (-1,+1).​ > > On 18:46, Feb 26, 2018, at 18:46, Corona > wrote: > >I move to (0,+1) and then to

DIS: Re: BUS: Loot!

There is no mine on that land unit. The two extent mines are at (+1, +1) and (-1, -1). El 26 feb. 2018 11:50, "Corona" escribió: (To clarify) I pick up ALL the stones and ore from the mine on (-1,+1).​ On 18:46, Feb 26, 2018, at 18:46, Corona

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Loot!

Ehh? That wasn't sent either? Is this thing working at all? ​ On 19:05, Feb 26, 2018, at 19:05, Corona wrote: >No worries, I was just trying to become the autocrat of Arcadia, like >all of us, but thanks. > >By the way, have you received my CoE on your report? It's

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Loot!

I got CB's message literally seconds before I got yours. El 26 feb. 2018 11:57, "Corona" escribió: Right. But I honestly didn't receive that message where you moved. When did you send it?​ On 18:52, Feb 26, 2018, at 18:52, Cuddle Beam wrote:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Loot!

Oh sorry, now I see it.​ On 18:52, Feb 26, 2018, at 18:52, Cuddle Beam wrote: >And that "ALL" is zero. > >On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:50 PM, Corona >wrote: > >> (To clarify) I pick up ALL the stones and ore from the mine on >(-1,+1).​ >> >> On

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Loot!

I did get it. It went to my spam folder though. Ugh, you're right. El 26 feb. 2018 12:06, "Corona" escribió: > No worries, I was just trying to become the autocrat of Arcadia, like all > of us, but thanks. > > By the way, have you received my CoE on your report?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Loot!

It's at the archives too. I'm seconds before. On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:58 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > I got CB's message literally seconds before I got yours. > > El 26 feb. 2018 11:57, "Corona" escribió: > > Right. But I honestly didn't

Re: DIS: Proto: Nomicbots

That looks really good. For the quadratic, maybe something like: (I'm sure the language on these would need fixing first) "A Nomicbot's capacity is a positive integer switch defaulting to 1. A Player CAN, by announcement, destroy (X+1) ore, where X is the value of an owned Nomicbot's capacity, to

DIS: Re: OFF: Feb 25 Land Auction and an Announcement.

All the Murricans have gone to sleep. :) Also, unless you're a Knight, you can't move directly from (+1, 0) to (-1, -1). Also, are you sure you can spend a fraction of a single corn, do another action (collect stuff) and then spend the rest of it? ~Corona​ On Feb 26, 2018, at 16:23, Reuben

DIS: Mail weirdness

Ok, this is weird. My own messages also go to my spam folder, which is why I thought they weren't getting sent. Could everyone also please make sure that my emails don't go to their spam? ~Corona​

Re: DIS: Mail weirdness

something something scam about sending stuff to everyone's spam folder. Also, yes, I get all of your messages fine. On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 8:17 PM, Corona wrote: > Ok, this is weird. My own messages also go to my spam folder, which is why > I thought they weren't

Re: DIS: Proto: Nomicbots

I like this quite a bit. I think that this indeed has a lot of potential to be fun. For the expanding price, you could model it off of how I described increasing upkeep costs and production in PAoaM. So add a level switch to each bot and say something like "A player can destroy 4n corn and 4n

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Metareport

Do you actually want to do it? I'm slacking on it and more than happy for anyone of equal slackness (or less slackness) to hold it. On Tue, 27 Feb 2018, Ned Strange wrote: > The only reason I nominated for Reportor is because it was listed as > nobody standing for it. > > On Tue, Feb 27, 2018

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Metareport

The only reason I nominated for Reportor is because it was listed as nobody standing for it. On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 5:04 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Mon, 26 Feb 2018, Ned Strange wrote: >> With two support, I intend to inititate an election for Notary. I >>

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Unofficial economic FAQ

I already did so for everyone. Gaelan > On Feb 26, 2018, at 11:36 PM, Ned Strange wrote: > > Wonderful post, thanks Murphy. > > I claim a welcome package. > >> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 4:26 PM, Edward Murphy wrote: >> Agora economic FAQ

Re: DIS: Proto: Nomicbots

>Does the arena reset every game? If not, should it? Nope. The Arena versatility is mostly there so that possible errors/impasses in the subgame can be solved more easily just in case, and if we want to add variants like "you can't vote AGAINST twice in a row", or adding "there is a voting order,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Feb 25 Land Auction and an Announcement.

Did we ever decide what happens with payments for failed actions? My vague recollection was that “I spend one coin TO do x” refunds when X is ineffective, but “I spend one coin AND do x” doesn’t. Is this correct? Either way, proto: { Create a P3.1 rule titled Spending: { When the rules specify

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Feb 25 Land Auction and an Announcement.

Not really, actually. This message was sent in the afternoon for me, and Trigon's original message was in late morning. I live in the Eastern Standard Time timezone though, so I can't speak for all Americans. :P (I'm also not registered so I couldn't do any of that anyway) On 2/26/2018 1:46

Re: DIS: Fwd: Facilities owned by contracts incur no costs

I think a cfj is frivolous in this case. Just write a fix proposal, or tell a player to submit one such proposal as you yourself cannot. El 26 feb. 2018 19:00, "Kenyon Prater" escribió: > I wasn't sure if it was appropriate to CFJ this or if this was a matter I > could

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Metareport

I mean I could do a job of it that doesn't suck as much as the job I did on some other roles ;). If you want it I'm happy to cede it but yeah. Or we could repeal it, I think there was discussion of 'we'll give it one more try and then repeal', and I feel like now would be a good time. On Tue, Feb

Re: DIS: Mail weirdness

Fine for me. I do have a filter specifically excepting messages on the Agoran mailing lists from going to spam, though. On 2/26/2018 2:17 PM, Corona wrote: Ok, this is weird. My own messages also go to my spam folder, which is why I thought they weren't getting sent. Could everyone also

DIS: Fwd: Facilities owned by contracts incur no costs

I wasn't sure if it was appropriate to CFJ this or if this was a matter I could just ask the public about. In the future for something like this, should I just ask? Kenyon -- Forwarded message -- From: Kenyon Prater Date: Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 5:54 PM

Re: DIS: Fwd: Facilities owned by contracts incur no costs

Sounds good, thanks. On Feb 26, 2018 6:21 PM, "Reuben Staley" wrote: > I think a cfj is frivolous in this case. Just write a fix proposal, or tell > a player to submit one such proposal as you yourself cannot. > > El 26 feb. 2018 19:00, "Kenyon Prater"

Re: DIS: Proto: Nomicbots

On 2/26/2018 1:09 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote: [snip] Players can have Nomicbots, which are assets with Instructions and a Name and a Banner. A Nomicbot's Instructions is a text document with instructions about its behavior. A Nomicbot's Instructions is blank by default. A Nomicbot's name is a

DIS: Unofficial economic FAQ

Agora economic FAQ (updated 2018-02-26) This is an informal summary of the board-game-esque areas of gameplay (as opposed to proposals/offices/CFJs), and is not guaranteed to cover nuances or otherwise be fully accurate. Types of assets: * Coins and such. Unrefinable currencies: stones,

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Feb 25 Land Auction and an Announcement.

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018, Reuben Staley wrote: According to the land auction rule, no. Maybe I should've said that Agora is the auctioneer, but I didn't know that when I wrote the proposal. This may make the whole Auction fail. Rule 2549 says: An

Re: DIS: Requests for Annotation

Consider that the CFJ ruling is made on the basis of the rules. In some sense, it's the game thinking about itself. There's a pretty strong historical basis for Agorans believing in a platonic reality, so the ruling codifies that. However, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's actually true, just

Re: DIS: Proto: Nomicbots

This proposal is full of holes. To list a few: Do bots use their creator's voting power or do they have their own? If the former, these are basically less useful contracts. If the latter, what's to say this isn't easily scammable for voting power, considering several bots can be created each week

DIS: Proto: Nomicbots

Some way to use our resources for a "minigame". You can spend them to get more consonants and vowels for a "bot" (which "runs" on natural language rather than any software language) to win a monthly game. For example, you could start off with a bot that just has "Always propose ' I win and the

Re: DIS: Proto: Nomicbots

“Vote for all proposals which would benefit this bot” Love the basic idea, though. Just needs to be written out a little more clearly. Gaelan > On Feb 26, 2018, at 5:59 AM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > Some way to use our resources for a "minigame". You can spend them to

DIS: Re: OFF: Feb 25 Land Auction and an Announcement.

On 2/25/2018 2:24 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: This is your local Cartographor calling in to remind everyone that as yesterday ended an Agoran week, Agora has created in possession of the following facilities the following items: The mine    at (-1, -1): 3 stones, 2 ore The mine    at (+1, +1): 3

Re: DIS: Requests for Annotation

Interesting how "CFJ 1911-1914 (called Mar 18, 2008): Physical realities supersede the Rules by default." and "CFJ: 3580 Called: 21 Oct 2017: The rules can override reality for game purposes." are around at the same time. (It works, though) I also massively disagree with CFJ 3580, for the " Agora

Re: DIS: Requests for Annotation

(Solely existing in our minds as a "game", the mailing lists and such exist out of our heads of course, but the bits and pixels and whatnot mean nothing until we come around and give it that meaning of being "Agora", but that's further off the main point I want to make that Agora does not exist

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Feb 25 Land Auction and an Announcement.

According to the land auction rule, no. Maybe I should've said that Agora is the auctioneer, but I didn't know that when I wrote the proposal. El 26 feb. 2018 07:34, "ATMunn" escribió: On 2/25/2018 2:24 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > This is your local Cartographor calling

Re: DIS: Requests for Annotation

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018, Cuddle Beam wrote: > Is there some way to challenge past CFJs? Besides the moot thing, which is > too late now to do for that. You can always re-call the same statement or similar. The Judge could say "CFJ 3580 was decided wrongly, and this is the new decision." However,

Re: DIS: Proto: Nomicbots

Not a player, but a fun way to avoid this would be that if a bot's action is paradoxical, unreadable, unspecified, etc, it explodes, is removed from the game, is removed from the duel, and automatically loses. So a clever bot could do proposal "all players that vote no on this proposal win the