agora hasnt had one of these in a LONG time
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 2:57 PM Reuben Staley via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On 2020-06-11 22:49, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote:
> > On 2020-06-11 22:26, Rebecca via agora-business wrote:
> >> -- From R. Lee
> >
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 2:49 PM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On 2020-06-11 22:26, Rebecca via agora-business wrote:
> > -- From R. Lee
>
> Who the heck is "R. Lee"?
>
> --
> Trigon
>
true
--
>From proposal 8440
On 2020-06-11 22:26, Rebecca via agora-business wrote:
-- From R. Lee
Who the heck is "R. Lee"?
--
Trigon
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 1:15 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On 6/11/20 10:46 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
> > I change my nickname to CFJ 3835.
>
>
> Great. Your ruleset annotations have been updated [0].
>
> [0]:
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 1:42 PM Alex Smith via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Friday, 12 June 2020, 03:48:06 GMT+1, Kerim Aydin via agora-business <
> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> > On 6/11/2020 7:08 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> > > If
On Friday, 12 June 2020, 03:48:06 GMT+1, Kerim Aydin via agora-business
wrote:
> On 6/11/2020 7:08 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> > If the previous CFJ that I called was found TRUE, then that provides
> > evidence for the statement of this CFJ being TRUE: at some point, CFJ
> > 3835
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 12:50 PM Rebecca via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 12:48 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business <
> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > On 6/11/2020 7:08 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> > > If the
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 12:48 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> On 6/11/2020 7:08 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> > If the previous CFJ that I called was found TRUE, then that provides
> > evidence for the statement of this CFJ being TRUE: at
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 12:33 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On 6/11/20 10:08 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> > While I'm busy harassing the Arbitor...
> >
> > I CFJ: "On or about 16 May 2020, CFJ 3835 became G."
>
> > I CFJ: "CFJ 3835 is G."
On 6/11/20 9:55 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
> [Jason pointed out a while ago, that you could argue that when a judgement
> option ceased to be defined (like UNDETERMINED has), it ceased to be a
> judgement, so the case reverted to open. Not sure if that's true, but
> this makes sure
On 6/11/2020 6:43 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 2020-06-11 19:25, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote:
>> Not a CoE, but the CFJ stating whether my Spanish thing actually
>> transferred a coin to Agora hasn't been judged yet.
>
> It should have been judged here:
>
>
On 6/11/20 9:43 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 2020-06-11 19:25, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote:
>> Not a CoE, but the CFJ stating whether my Spanish thing actually
>> transferred a coin to Agora hasn't been judged yet.
> It should have been judged here:
>
>
On 2020-06-11 19:25, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote:
Not a CoE, but the CFJ stating whether my Spanish thing actually
transferred a coin to Agora hasn't been judged yet.
It should have been judged here:
https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-business@agoranomic.org/msg36712.html
--
Trigon
On 6/11/20 8:20 PM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote:
>>> Enact a power-1 rule entitled "Amulets" with the following text:
>>> Amulets are a class of assets, tracked by the Teasuror, which can be
>>> owned by players. Each amulet has the following attributes: type,
>>>
On 6/11/2020 9:26 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
agora-discussion wrote:
On Jun 11, 2020, at 21:20, ATMunn via agora-discussion
wrote:
On 6/11/2020 7:41 PM, nch wrote:
On 6/10/20 11:54 AM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote:
I've been rattling this idea around in my mind for a
> On Jun 11, 2020, at 21:20, ATMunn via agora-discussion
> wrote:
>
> On 6/11/2020 7:41 PM, nch wrote:
>> On 6/10/20 11:54 AM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote:
> I've been rattling this idea around in my mind for a bit. I decided to
> put together a proto-proposal to see
Not a CoE, but the CFJ stating whether my Spanish thing actually
transferred a coin to Agora hasn't been judged yet.
On 6/11/2020 6:37 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-official wrote:
FORBES FOUR HUNDRED
On 6/11/2020 7:41 PM, nch wrote:
On 6/10/20 11:54 AM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote:
I've been rattling this idea around in my mind for a bit. I decided to
put together a proto-proposal to see what others think.
Title: Amulets ver. 0.1
AI: 1.0
Author: ATMunn
Co-author(s):
Overall, I'm
Did not know that. Very handy!
On 6/11/2020 6:53 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
On 6/11/20 5:41 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote:
Can I gripe for a sec? Bottom-posting generally does help readability
but can we maybe try to not quote entire 100+ line messages to add one
On 6/11/20 2:38 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote:
> This has a lot in common with G.'s "stones" proto. Last posted in
> September, I think:
>
> https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-discussion/2019-September/055498.html
>
> I thought the rules about stones escaping
On 6/10/20 11:54 AM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote:
> I've been rattling this idea around in my mind for a bit. I decided to
> put together a proto-proposal to see what others think.
>
> Title: Amulets ver. 0.1
> AI: 1.0
> Author: ATMunn
> Co-author(s):
Overall, I'm not sure I like this
On 6/11/2020 4:27 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> On 6/11/2020 4:05 PM, Alex Smith via agora-discussion wrote:
>> On Thursday, 11 June 2020, 23:32:12 GMT+1, Kerim Aydin via agora-business
>> wrote:
>>> Gratuitous:
>>>
>>> The Pineapple Partnership was judged to be a person at the time the case
>>>
On 6/11/2020 4:05 PM, Alex Smith via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Thursday, 11 June 2020, 23:32:12 GMT+1, Kerim Aydin via agora-business
> wrote:
>> Gratuitous:
>>
>> The Pineapple Partnership was judged to be a person at the time the case
>> was assigned, and the Rules of the time made em a
> I also contributed three stone videos in the original thread in May
> 2019 (subject "the end never games"):
s/videos/ideas/
Not sure how that happened.
- Falsifian
> > This has a lot in common with G.'s "stones" proto. Last posted in
> > September, I think:
> >
> > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-discussion/2019-September/055498.html
> >
> > I thought the rules about stones escaping were fun. Also, there were
> > some creative
On Thursday, 11 June 2020, 23:32:12 GMT+1, Kerim Aydin via agora-business
wrote:
> Gratuitous:
>
> The Pineapple Partnership was judged to be a person at the time the case
> was assigned, and the Rules of the time made em a person [cites later].
> So it was a legal judgement of the time (which
On 6/11/20 5:41 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote:
> Can I gripe for a sec? Bottom-posting generally does help readability
> but can we maybe try to not quote entire 100+ line messages to add one
> comment at the bottom? At this point it's more of a nuisance that I am
> required to use
On 2020-06-11 16:17, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business
wrote:
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 6:07 AM Rebecca via agora-official
wrote:
=Metareport=
This is the ADoP’s weekly report, which I deputise for ADoP to publish,
having intended to do so more than 2 days earlier (and
On 6/11/2020 3:37 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> On 6/11/20 6:29 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
>> Gratuitous:
>>
>> The Pineapple Partnership was judged to be a person at the time the case
>> was assigned, and the Rules of the time made em a person [cites later].
>> So it
On 6/11/2020 3:11 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 6:09 PM Jason Cobb wrote:
>>
>> I point my finger at the H. Arbitor for failing to assign a judge to CFJ
>> 1706 in a timely fashion, although I request that the H. Referee not
>> punish em too harshly.
>>
>>
On 6/11/2020 2:48 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 6/11/20 3:29 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
>>
>> I submit the following proposal, "win indirection", AI-1:
>>
>> Amend Rule 2553 (Win by Paradox) by
On 6/11/20 2:28 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote:
> Actually, that could be a use for a limited asset. Call them Fingers,
> you pay one to point a finger, at most N Fingers exist at any given
> time, and they're gradually replenished somehow when there are fewer
> than N (auctions?). Not
On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 6:09 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business
wrote:
>
> I point my finger at the H. Arbitor for failing to assign a judge to CFJ
> 1706 in a timely fashion, although I request that the H. Referee not
> punish em too harshly.
>
> CFJ 1706 [0] was judged by the Pineapple
On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 3:09 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> I point my finger at the H. Arbitor for failing to assign a judge to CFJ
> 1706 in a timely fashion, although I request that the H. Referee not
> punish em too harshly.
>
> CFJ 1706 [0] was
On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 2:18 PM ATMunn via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On 6/11/2020 3:28 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote:
> >>> What is the advantage of arbitration by contract over just having the
> >>> Referee / CFJ system handle things?
> >>
> >> The
On 2020-06-11 15:48, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
--
nch
Webmastor, NAX Exchange Manager
I love this. "Needlessly Abstract Exchange Exchange Manager"
--
Trigon
On 6/11/20 3:29 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
>
> I submit the following proposal, "win indirection", AI-1:
>
> Amend Rule 2553 (Win by Paradox) by replacing:
>
> that case's initiator CAN, by announcement,
On 6/11/2020 3:28 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote:
What is the advantage of arbitration by contract over just having the
Referee / CFJ system handle things?
The Referee and judges didn't necessarily opt in to being involved in
every possible contract dispute (and it allows more
On 6/11/2020 2:15 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
On 6/11/2020 10:55 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote:
When an Arbitration Case is unassigned, the Head Arbitrator CAN by
announcement, and SHALL in a timely fashion, flip its Arbitrator to any
other value. The Arbitrator
thank you for actually making some comments on this, i was beginning to
get concerned that it would just get overlooked :)
On 6/11/2020 2:38 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote:
I've been rattling this idea around in my mind for a bit. I decided to
put together a proto-proposal to see
On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 2:50 PM James Cook via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 at 22:27, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
> agora-business wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 6:06 PM nch via agora-business
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On 6/10/20 4:22 PM, Kerim Aydin via
On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 3:29 PM James Cook via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> > > What is the advantage of arbitration by contract over just having the
> > > Referee / CFJ system handle things?
> >
> > The Referee and judges didn't necessarily opt in to being involved in
> > every possible contract
On 6/11/2020 1:01 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 12:58 PM James Cook via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
>>> In general, defining one method for doing something excludes
>> "unregulated"
>>> methods from working, but
On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 1:56 PM James Cook via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> > When an Arbitration Case is unassigned, the Head Arbitrator CAN by
> > announcement, and SHALL in a timely fashion, flip its Arbitrator to any
> > other value. The Arbitrator SHALL NOT assign an Arbitration Case to a
> >
On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 12:58 PM James Cook via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> > In general, defining one method for doing something excludes
> "unregulated"
> > methods from working, but doesn't exclude other regulated methods in the
> > rules from working.
> >
> >
> In general, defining one method for doing something excludes "unregulated"
> methods from working, but doesn't exclude other regulated methods in the
> rules from working.
>
> For example, saying (under certain conditions) that the Herald CAN award
> Champion by announcement (Rule 2449) doesn't
On 6/11/2020 11:19 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
> The Referee and judges didn't necessarily opt in to being involved in
> every possible contract dispute (and it allows more flexibility than the
> rules currently do). And, if we end up using contracts more, then it
> allows
On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 11:50 AM James Cook via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 at 22:27, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
> agora-business wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 6:06 PM nch via agora-business
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On
On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 19:09, James Cook via agora-discussion
wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 00:05, Rebecca via agora-official
> wrote:
> > I initiate an agoran decision for the election of the Prime Minister. The
> > quorum is 7, the vote collector is the ADoP, the method is IRV, and the
> >
On 6/11/2020 12:17 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote:
>>> In fact, I'm a little worried that associating a fee with winning the
>>> game might mean you always need to pay that fee to perform that action.
>>> E.g. even if you had 20 more victory cards than anyone else, R2579 would
>>>
> > What is the advantage of arbitration by contract over just having the
> > Referee / CFJ system handle things?
>
> The Referee and judges didn't necessarily opt in to being involved in
> every possible contract dispute (and it allows more flexibility than the
> rules currently do). And, if we
On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 18:16, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
wrote:
> On 6/11/2020 10:55 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote:
> >> When an Arbitration Case is unassigned, the Head Arbitrator CAN by
> >> announcement, and SHALL in a timely fashion, flip its Arbitrator to any
> >> other
On 6/11/20 3:17 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote:
> Why does the wording make a difference?
>
> I thought my comment applied to the 1,000 Coin rule as well, but
> didn't bring it up because that's about to be repealed.
>
> - Falsifian
R2125 permits multiple methods and strongly implies
On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 17:36, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
wrote:
> On 6/11/2020 10:12 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, 9 June 2020, 20:16:09 GMT+1, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> >> wrote:
> >>> On 6/9/2020 11:21 AM, Alex Smith via agora-discussion wrote:
>
On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 00:05, Rebecca via agora-official
wrote:
> I initiate an agoran decision for the election of the Prime Minister. The
> quorum is 7, the vote collector is the ADoP, the method is IRV, and the
> valid options are any candidates for PM, which currently are R. Lee, nch
> and
On 6/11/20 2:58 PM, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote:
> I’m unsure how much power we have in “defining an entity” for the purposes
> of contract-defined Assets, but eh life is short, I’ll give it a shot.
> Also, this doesn’t violate DADA, rather, it aims to exploit it seeing how
> G. was
On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 at 22:14, nch via agora-discussion
wrote:
> This is a very early proto, but I figured I'd throw it out there for
> consideration while other criminal reforms are being discussed.
>
> The idea is:
>
> * Shenanigans is a 0+X crime, where X is the number of times in the last
> 7
On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 at 22:27, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
agora-business wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 6:06 PM nch via agora-business
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 6/10/20 4:22 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
> > >
> > > I ossify Agora.
> > >
> > I point my finger at G. for
> I've been rattling this idea around in my mind for a bit. I decided to
> put together a proto-proposal to see what others think.
This has a lot in common with G.'s "stones" proto. Last posted in
September, I think:
On 6/11/20 1:55 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote:
>> When an Arbitration Case is unassigned, the Head Arbitrator CAN by
>> announcement, and SHALL in a timely fashion, flip its Arbitrator to any
>> other value. The Arbitrator SHALL NOT assign an Arbitration Case to a
>> person who has a
On 6/11/2020 10:55 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote:
>> When an Arbitration Case is unassigned, the Head Arbitrator CAN by
>> announcement, and SHALL in a timely fashion, flip its Arbitrator to any
>> other value. The Arbitrator SHALL NOT assign an Arbitration Case to a
>> person who
> When an Arbitration Case is unassigned, the Head Arbitrator CAN by
> announcement, and SHALL in a timely fashion, flip its Arbitrator to any
> other value. The Arbitrator SHALL NOT assign an Arbitration Case to a
> person who has a manifest interest in the case, whether monetary or
> otherwise.
On 6/11/2020 10:12 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 9 June 2020, 20:16:09 GMT+1, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
>> wrote:
>>> On 6/9/2020 11:21 AM, Alex Smith via agora-discussion wrote:
I submit the following proposal, "Barrel Rolling", AI-1:
> A player CAN
On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 at 21:06, nch via agora-business
wrote:
>
> This is a Notice of Honour:
>
> +1 Falsifian (excellence in journalism)
>
> -1 Jason (to ensure eir ego doesn't grow too big up in the clouds above
> the rest of us)
Thanks, ATMunn and nch! I am glad you're enjoying the summaries.
-
> On Tuesday, 9 June 2020, 20:16:09 GMT+1, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > On 6/9/2020 11:21 AM, Alex Smith via agora-discussion wrote:
> > > I submit the following proposal, "Barrel Rolling", AI-1:
> > >> A player CAN win the game, but it will cost em 100 barrels.
> > > This is
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