Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Promotor] Removals

2020-07-19 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 4:17 PM ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 7/19/2020 4:24 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > > - Warmer Welcomes [1] > > - Regulated Welcoming Coinage > > > > [1] Title may include quotes on either side > > should I not be putting quotes around my titles?

Re: DIS: Re: Subject: BUS: [Proposal] Minion Plan

2020-07-21 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 1:11 PM ais523 via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 16:03 -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > > On 7/21/20 3:56 PM, Greg P. Thomas II via agora-business wrote: > > > I submit the following proposal. > > > > > > ---

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2020-07-21 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 2:00 PM omd via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > at 6:48 PM, ais523 via agora-discussion > > wrote: > > Updated hypothesis: the messages are being sent by a bot, probably a > > neural network trained on Agoran public forum messages. > > I just notic

DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] Court Gazette

2020-07-26 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
I sincerely apologize for the tardiness of CFJ 3866. Somehow I never even saw that it was assigned to me (if I ever did, I've completely forgotten). It's entirely my fault for not paying close enough attention to the lists. If I'm still the judge (which I think I am, but the Arbitor might have recu

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3866 Judged FALSE

2020-07-29 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 11:28 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > > > I support this. > > On reading the judgement, I'm quite amused, but left a bit dissatisfied. > In particular, I don't see how this is different than other contract > clauses that "affirm consent" via an elongated process

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (attn Treasuror, Promotor) Okay let's get this over with

2020-07-31 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 1:19 PM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 2020-07-26 11:45, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: > > I perform Collection for the CCCA's sole Legislative Card (i.e. transfer > > it to myself, pay it to earn a Pendant, and keep said Pendant). > > > > I pay

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3873 assigned to G. and judged FALSE

2020-07-31 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 3:43 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > > On 7/30/2020 2:02 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote: > > > > > >> On Jul 30, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official > >> wrote: > >> > >> Holding with that precedent, "interested in judging" is no

DIS: [Promotor] Draft and Commentary

2020-08-01 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
My draft report is below. Comments are, as always, welcome. For the purposes of this report, I'm assuming that: - "Minion Plan" isn't a proposal because it failed to specify text - "Agoran Bit-streaming" is a proposal because it was submitted properly - "Simpler ribbon switches" was never pended f

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8478-8487

2020-08-02 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 3:29 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > > I vote as follows: > > > 8478*^ Jason, nix, G. 3.0 another talismans fix > > FOR > > > > 8479j^ nix, Aris, PSS, ATMunn 1.7 Competitive Finger Pointing v2 > > PRESENT > > > > 8480e^ Jason1

DIS: Badge Problems (was: Re: BUS: [Diplonomic 2020] BT3 Intent to Announce Winners, Badge, and Clean-up)

2020-08-03 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 10:47 AM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: > > I also plan to award the badge for this tournament in the next few days. > I would be interested in receiving suggestions for titles. I am > currently planning to award it to ATMunn, G., Jason, Aris, Fals

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3869 Judged FALSE

2020-08-03 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 12:56 AM Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I would've loved to bring up this: > - CFJ 3737 (called 15 Jun 2019): Actions that the rules state a player > SHALL NOT perform are considered to be regulated actions. > - R2471: "A person

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3869 Judged FALSE

2020-08-03 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 1:04 AM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 12:56 AM Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> I would've loved to bring up this: >> - CFJ 3737 (called 15 Jun 2019): Actions that the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3869 Judged FALSE

2020-08-03 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 5:53 AM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 8/3/20 3:38 AM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > > Judge's Arguments in CFJ 3869 > > > > The question of the day is "Is sending a public message a regulated > action?" > > The cal

DIS: [Promotor] Request for Comments: Two Administrative Regulations

2020-08-03 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
Below are two draft administrative regulations. The first one is a style guide for proposals, concerning the elements I interact with (metadata, headers, and text formatting). The second one codifies my policies regarding use of the 2+N support method for pending. I hereby solicit comments. -Aris

DIS: Re: BUS: But I Won't Do That

2020-08-03 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:58 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > I make/consent to the following contract 'Trust Me': > > { > 1. Only G. CAN join this contract. > > 2. G. CAN terminate this contract by announcement; > > 3. G. SHALL, within one week, perf

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Diplonomic 2020] BT3 Intent to Announce Winners, Badge, and Clean-up

2020-08-09 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 2:12 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: > On 8/2/20 1:47 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > > I intend, with 2 days notice, to announce G., ATMunn, and Jason as > > winners of this year's Birthday Tournament. > > I do so. > > > > > I inte

DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2020-08-09 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
Here's my weekly draft. -Aris --- PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it, and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the quorum is 6, the voting method is AI-majority, and the va

DIS: Re: BUS: [Dragon] Pendant Extraction [attn. Dragon President]

2020-08-10 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 6:24 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > > On 8/3/20 5:11 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > > I submit the following Ordinary Proposal to the Dragon Corporation: > > > > [informal title: Pendant Extraction] > > > > { > > > > Under this proposal, the President

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Weekly Report] Forbes 486

2020-08-15 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 5:36 PM Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 2020-08-14 14:30, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: > > On 8/14/2020 10:29 AM, ATMunn wrote: > >> On 8/13/2020 10:33 PM, Falsifian via agora-business wrote: > >>> On 2020-08-09 20:02, Reuben Staley via agora-official wrote

DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2020-08-21 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
Here's my draft. I was going to try to send it in earlier, but the week was a bit of a mess (a lot of them seem to be lately) and it didn't happen. -Aris --- PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it, and removing it from the proposa

DIS: Re: BUS: [Contract] Proofs of Claim

2020-08-24 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 2:04 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > > On 8/24/20 4:56 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > > Contract: Proofs of Claim > > > > Any player CAN, with notice, file a proof of a claim of a valid > > judgement. The first player to do so CAN once act on Aris's

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: (proposal)

2020-08-28 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 10:31 AM Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > > On Aug 28, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > > > > I submit the following proposal, "Minor Adjustments", AI-3: > > --

DIS: [Proto] Assorted Obligatory Patches

2020-08-29 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
Here's a proto to fix various problems I and others have found in various rules. This *should* all be pretty uncontroversial, I think; if you disagree with something, LMK. -Aris --- Title: Assorted Obligatory Patches Adoption index: 2.2 Author: Aris Co-author(s): G., nch, Jason [Breaking pledges

DIS: [Revised Proto] Sunlight is the Best Disinfectant

2020-08-30 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
Here's a revised version of Sunlight is the Best Disinfectant. I first protoed this back at the end of June. I've made a few changes here and there, such as rolling the notion of unconcealment into the idea of clarity, in line with more recent precedent. -Aris --- Title: Sunlight is the Best Disi

DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2020-08-30 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
Here's my mostly weekly draft. -Aris --- PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it, and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the quorum is 3, the voting method is AI-majority, and

Re: DIS: Re: agora-discussion Digest, Vol 83, Issue 6

2020-09-07 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
Hello! Several things: It's considered bad form to reply to the digest. It's too much stuff, and no one will know what you're replying to. Instead, if you want to play the game, it's strongly recommended that you turn off digest mode and get the messages individually. I know it may seem like a lo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Contract] Proofs of Claim

2020-09-13 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 1:50 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > > I support. > > > > > > I'll actually go the other direction. The contract says "Any player CAN, > > > with notice, file a proof of a claim of a valid judgement." With notice > is > > > a

DIS: [Promotor] Draft Renumbering

2020-09-15 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
Here's a draft to fix some numbering problems; more details within. -Aris --- It has come to my attention that there are two Proposal 8495s. I will correct this by assigning each a new ID number that unambiguously refers to only it It is not my intent to invalidate the old ID numbers where they d

DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2020-09-15 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
Here's the ordinary draft. -Aris --- PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it, and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the quorum is 5, the voting method is AI-majority, and the

DIS: Re: BUS: Prime Minister Election

2020-09-20 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 11:33 AM nix via agora-business wrote: > > It has been 90 days since I was elected PM. I intend, with 2 support, to > start a PM election. I still want the office and will campaign for it, > but elections are Good. I become a candidate. Platform: - In order to balance t

DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2020-10-03 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
Here's a draft report. I'm sorry this is so late -- I'm just starting college, and things are chaotic right now. -Aris --- PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it, and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vot

Re: DIS: down with whatever!

2020-10-14 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 8:34 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > Proto: Rebellion Redux I like most of this, but there's one bit I dislike quite a bit, and that's involving the offices of abiding players. It feels unnecessary, especially given that offices are currently seen as more r

DIS: The Buoyant Economy: A Proposal Prospectus

2020-10-15 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
1. INTRODUCTION I want to thank nix for introducing the problems facing our economy. For those who haven't yet, I suggest you read at least the first post in the thread "DIS: The State of the Agoran Economy". nix pointed out three problems. I've focused on Problem B, which is isolated enough from

DIS: The Buoyant Economy: The Actual Draft

2020-10-16 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
Here's my proposal that I've told you all so much about. I've left a few comments, but things should hopefully be pretty straightforward. It is quite possible things need some wordsmithing or adjustment. That's why this is a draft! I hope you all enjoy. -Aris --- Title: The Buoyant Economy Adoptio

DIS: Second Test

2020-10-17 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
This message contains no game actions. This is just a second test to see if the fora are working properly again. -Aris

DIS: Test

2020-10-18 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
This message contains no game actions. This just a test to see if the fora are working properly again. -Aris

DIS: Re: BUS: Petition for Patent Title for Jason [attn. Herald]

2020-10-18 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 10:23 AM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: > On 10/8/20 9:33 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > > Jason has provided valuable tech support to Agora for a long time. E > > has hosted the MUD, as well as designing and hosting AgoraBot, whic

DIS: [Proto] Our Heroic Distributor

2020-10-18 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
Title: Our Heroic Distributor Adoption index: 3.0 Author: Aris Co-authors: WHEREAS, since 2003, omd has served as Distributor, hosting and maintaining the Agoran lists and website; WHEREAS the period of eir Distributorship comprises the majority of Agoran history; WHEREAS e has been diligent ab

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cuddlebeam Degree Intent

2020-10-18 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 3:54 PM Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > woohoo Remember to grab your ribbon/glitter! -Aris

Re: DIS: The Buoyant Economy: The Actual Draft

2020-10-18 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 11:10 PM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > > Here's my proposal that I've told you all so much about. I've left a > few comments, but things should hopefully be pretty straightforward. > It is quite possible things need some wordsmith

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Rewards for Proposals 8507-8515

2020-10-28 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 12:31 PM ATMunn via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 10/28/2020 3:29 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-official wrote: > > For the adoption of Proposal 8507, I grant ATMunn 14-0=14 coins. > > For the adoption of Proposal 8508, I grant Falsifian 14-0=14

DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2020-10-31 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it, and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the quorum is 9, the voting method is AI-majority, and the valid options are FOR and AGAINST (PR

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] It's not theft if it was offered for free

2020-10-31 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 1:56 PM Falsifian via agora-business wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 08:51:14PM -0400, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: > > I submit (but do not pend) the following proposal: > > > > Title: I definitely authored this > > Adoption index: 2.0 > > Author: ATMunn > > Co-auth

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] It's not theft if it was offered for free

2020-10-31 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 1:57 PM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 1:56 PM Falsifian via agora-business > wrote: > > > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 08:51:14PM -0400, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: > > > I submit (but do no

DIS: Re: @treasuror Re: BUS: hi [attn. Registrar]

2020-11-08 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 9:33 AM Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: > > ATMunn wrote: > > > On 11/8/2020 9:48 AM, Lucidiot via agora-business wrote: > >> I register! > >> > >> I am elated to be able to celebrate my Agoran Birthday with all of you! > >> It has been such an amazing 0 years togeth

DIS: [Draft Proposal] Sunlight is the Best Disinfectant

2020-11-16 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
Alright! Here's a new proto of my proposal, "Sunlight is the Best Disinfectant", from a few months ago. Major changes from my last version: 1. Break rule 478 into two rules (it's getting really long, especially if you consider the annotations). 2. Remove the unpopular "by notification" phrasing. 3

DIS: Should We Save Honor?

2020-11-16 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
The honor/karma system seems to have fallen largely out of use. Should we try to fix it, and if so, what do we need to do? -Aris

Re: DIS: Should We Save Honor?

2020-11-16 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 10:45 AM nix via agora-discussion wrote: > > > On 11/16/20 12:41 PM, nix via agora-discussion wrote: > > > > On 11/16/20 12:40 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > >> The honor/karma system seems to have fallen largely out of use

DIS: On Rule 217 and the Four Factors: Another Proposal Prospectus

2020-11-16 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
"When interpreting and applying the rules, the text of the rules takes precedence. Where the text is silent, inconsistent, or unclear, it is to be augmented by game custom, common sense, past judgements, and consideration of the best interests of the game." -R217 These words are the core of Agoran

Re: DIS: [Draft Proposal] Sunlight is the Best Disinfectant

2020-11-18 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 9:17 PM Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 10:25:40AM -0800, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion > wrote: > > Alright! Here's a new proto of my proposal, "Sunlight is the Best > > Disinfectant", from a f

DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2020-11-21 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
My weekly draft follows. -Aris --- PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it, and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the quorum is 9, the voting method is AI-majority, and the v

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3890 Assigned to Aris (the ANCS approach)

2020-11-23 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
Trying to think if there's a way to say what I actually wanted to say that's less confusing. Basically, my concern is that sometimes people don't use just the text when they otherwise might. I can go into more details on the sort of interpretation I'm thinking of. I'm not trying to demote the text,

DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2020-12-19 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
Here's my weekly draft. I'm sorry this is so late. This week was finals week, and, as always during finals week, I was swamped. -Aris --- PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it, and removing it from the proposal pool. For this dec

Re: Proto: Specified Crime not Rule Re: DIS: Re: BUS: @Referee Re: OFF: [ADoP] Metareport

2020-12-20 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 10:57 AM nix via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On 12/20/20 9:43 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business > wrote: > > Title: Specified Crime not Rule > > Authors: PSS, nix > > Power: 1.7 > > Text: { > > Amend Rule 2478, "Vigila

Re: DIS: Re: [@Treasuror] Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Stonemason] December Stone Auction Resolution

2020-12-20 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 11:32 AM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 12/13/20 11:28 PM, Lucidiot via agora-discussion wrote: > > Le 13/12/2020 à 23:28, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion a écrit : > >> > >> On 12/10/20 8:46 AM, ATMunn via agora-discuss

Re: DIS: [Proto-Proposal] planning to flop

2020-12-30 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 12:01 PM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > > The following is a Proto-Proposal and therefore I do not submit it and > especially do not pend it. Even if I could this is the discussion forum > so it really doesn't matter anyway. > > I think this is a good idea, but

DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2021-01-02 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
My mostly weekly draft follows. Comments are, as always, welcome. -Aris --- PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it, and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the quorum is 5, t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8527-8529

2021-01-03 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 3:28 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 1/3/21 6:26 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > > If you're going to vote against this, it's IMO your responsibility to > > make sure this gets cleaned up reasonably soon. Dictatorships are, by > > tradition, te

Re: DIS: (proto) third level Turn Undead

2021-01-03 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 3:17 PM ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Sun, 2021-01-03 at 15:08 -0800, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > Proto: Turn Undead, AI-3: > > > > Any player CAN, with notice, make a player who has not > > made a public announcement in the past 60 d

DIS: Explaining the Current Dictatorship (attn. JTAC, was BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8527-8529)

2021-01-03 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 11:22 PM JTAC via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 4/1/2021 7:14 am, Aris Merchant via agora-official wrote: > > PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW > > > > I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it, > > and removing it

DIS: [Proto] SLR Ratification

2021-01-08 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
Here is a proposal to ratify the SLR, as we do from time to time. I want to submit this in time for Read the Ruleset week, but am publishing a proto so people can review the referenced ruleset for errors. -Aris --- Title: SLR Ratification Adoption index: 3.0 Author: Aris Co-author(s): Ratify the

DIS: Re: [Proto] SLR Ratification

2021-01-08 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
Just, for clarity, I meant "the 1st of December". Fixed in my local copy. -Aris On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 6:52 PM Aris Merchant wrote: > > Here is a proposal to ratify the SLR, as we do from time to time. I > want to submit this in time for Read the Ruleset week, but am > publishing a proto so peop

Re: DIS: [Rulekeepor] RTRW Festivities

2021-01-09 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 2:56 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I hereby solicit suggestions for celebrations/contests/whatever to be > held during RTRW. I understand that G. has done a bug finding contest in > eir time as Herald, so we could do something

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Personhood Revisited

2021-01-12 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 5:33 PM nix via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 1/12/21 7:18 PM, nix via agora-business wrote: > > > > I submit, but do not pend, the following proposal: > > > > { > > Title: Personhood Revisited > > Power: 3.0 > > Author: nix > > Co-Authors: Gaelan, Aris > > > > Amend R869

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Personhood Revisited

2021-01-13 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 10:01 PM Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote: > > > { > > Title: Personhood > > Adoption index: 3.0 > > Author: Aris > > Co-authors: Trigon, nix, G., Jason, ATMunn > > > > > > Amend Rule 869, "How to Join and Leave Agora", by replacing: > > > > Any entity that is or ever

Re: DIS: proto: dictator fixes

2021-01-17 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 12:11 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On 1/17/2021 8:41 AM, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote: > > G. wrote: > > > >> [pretty straightforward, but I think it captures the loopholes we used > or > >> were planning to u

DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2021-01-17 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
My draft report follows. Corrections are, as always, welcome. -Aris --- PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it, and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the quorum is 2, the vo

DIS: [Proto] Justice for All

2021-01-17 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
Here's a proto to get rid of Summary Judgement and tweak the finger pointing rules to match. There's a longer comment in the proto itself. -Aris --- Title: Justice for All Adoption index: 1.7 Author: Aris Co-authors: [This is OP and was only used twice in the whole of last year. We could reform

DIS: [Proto] We the People

2021-01-19 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
I have come out with a new draft of a personhood rearrangement. I wanted to precede it with a list G. made me write (thank you, G.) outlining the design goals, which may be of assistance to judges tasked with interpreting this later. Design goals: - Singlets are people - System members are people

DIS: Re: [Proto] Justice for All

2021-01-19 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 9:51 PM Aris Merchant wrote: > > Here's a proto to get rid of Summary Judgement and tweak the finger > pointing rules to match. There's a longer comment in the proto itself. > > -Aris > > --- > Title: Justice for All > Adoption index: 1.7 > Author: Aris > Co-authors: Here

Re: DIS: Re: [Proto] Justice for All

2021-01-20 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 9:05 AM Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote: > > > The Referee is by default the investigator for all Finger > > Pointing. When the Referee's Finger is Pointed or the Referee > > is the perp, the Arbitor is the investigator. > > > > The Referee CANNOT Point eir Fin

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Strengthening Extra Votes

2021-01-21 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 5:48 PM nix via agora-business wrote: > > I submit but pendn't the following proposal. As usual, looking for feedback > before pending. > > (Also looking for deals to efficiently liquidate my legislative card.) > > { > Title: Strengthening Extra Votes > Adoption index: 3.0

Re: DIS: [Proto] We the People

2021-01-23 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 9:27 AM Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote: > > > Title: We the People > > Adoption index: 3.0 > > Author: Aris > > Co-authors: Trigon, nix, G., Gaelan > > > > > > Amend Rule 869, "How to Join and Leave Agora", by replacing: > > > > Any entity that is or ever was an org

Re: DIS: [Proto] We the People

2021-01-23 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 4:09 PM Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 02:34:10PM -0800, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion > wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 9:27 AM Falsifian via agora-discussion > > wrote: > > > > > > > T

Re: DIS: [Proto] We the People

2021-01-23 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 7:49 PM Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote: > Okay, it's reasonable to take advantage of precedent that way. Does the > precedent actually talk about "free will" in those words? > > If it weren't obvious that the word "willingly" is trying to do > something special in thi

Re: DIS: [Proto] We the People

2021-01-23 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 9:25 PM Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 09:01:09PM -0800, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion > wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 7:49 PM Falsifian via agora-discussion > > wrote: > > > Okay, it

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Strengthening Extra Votes

2021-01-24 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 2:15 PM nix via agora-business wrote: > Title: Strengthening Extra Votes v2.0 > Adoption index: 3.0 > Author: nix > Co-authors: Aris, Jason [...] > > Repeal R2607, "Proposal Chambers". Chambers are referenced in several places; you'll need conforming amendments to Rules 16

DIS: [Proto] The Great Rollback

2021-01-27 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
The time has come for us to undo Statutory Instrumentation and return to the noble design of the past. Comments are, as always, welcome, even if I can't promise I'll agree with them. :) -Aris --- Title: The Great Rollback Adoption index: 3.0 Author: Aris Co-author(s): If this proposal has alrea

Re: DIS: [Proto] The Great Rollback

2021-01-27 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 6:27 PM Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote: > > > > > On Jan 27, 2021, at 12:02 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion > > wrote: > > > > The time has come for us to undo Statutory Instrumentation and return > > to the nob

Re: DIS: [Proto] The Great Rollback

2021-01-28 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
2021, at 12:55 AM, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion < > > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Jan 27, 2021, at 11:07 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion < > > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: >

Re: DIS: [Proto] The Great Rollback

2021-01-28 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
e via agora-discussion < >> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: >> >> > >> > >> > > On Jan 28, 2021, at 12:55 AM, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion < >> > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: >> > > >> > > >&

Re: DIS: [Proto] The Great Rollback

2021-01-28 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 10:12 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > > On 1/27/2021 12:02 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > > Apply S->I to Rule 1688, "Power". > > Apply S->I to Rule 2438, "Ribbons". > > In the next

Re: DIS: [Proto] The Great Rollback

2021-01-28 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 12:03 PM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > > The time has come for us to undo Statutory Instrumentation and return > to the noble design of the past. Comments are, as always, welcome, > even if I can't promise I'll agree with them. :) >

Re: DIS: [Proto] The Great Rollback

2021-01-31 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 11:27 AM Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote: > > > I have a new draft! > > Thanks for putting this together, Aris. A few comments and questions > below. Thank you for the feedback. I know it's a lot to dig through. > > Amend Rule 1688, "Power", by, all as part of the

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3893 Assigned to Gaelan

2021-01-31 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 5:04 PM Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote: > > > > > On Jan 22, 2021, at 12:53 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official > > wrote: > > > > The below CFJ is 3893. I assign it to Gaelan. > > > > status: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/#3893 > > > > ==

DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3895 Assigned to Aris

2021-02-01 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 12:20 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote: > > The below CFJ is 3895. I assign it to Aris. > > status: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/#3895 > > === CFJ 3895 === > > I have now more than 2

DIS: Re: OFF: [Emergency] [Proposal Distribution] Dictator Dethronement

2021-02-03 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 7:17 AM ATMunn via agora-official wrote: > > I intend, with 3 Agoran Consent, to repeal all existing Emergency > Regulations. > > In addition, I issue the Cabinet Order of Manifesto to distribute the > proposal "All Good Things Must Come to an End", initiating a referendum >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [proposal] Anti-Simultaniety Act

2021-02-04 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 11:03 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On 2/4/2021 10:57 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > > Amend Rule 478 by replacing "Actions in messages (including > > sub-messages) are performed in the order they appear in the

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Referee] Crime and Punishment

2021-02-06 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 7:59 AM nix via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Saturday, February 6, 2021 3:15:13 AM CST JTAC via agora-official wrote: > > SPECIAL NOTICE: > > It appears that Shelvacu, who became a fugitive on 11/20/20, should have > > had 1 blot destroyed

DIS: Re: BUS: Draft judgement of CFJ 3899

2021-02-16 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 8:46 PM Falsifian via agora-business wrote: > > I file a motion to extend CFJ 3899. > > Here is my draft. Could anyone point me to precedent about what it > means for information to be "reasonably available"? My draft includes > my own reasoning, but if it's been covered pr

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Draft judgement of CFJ 3899

2021-02-17 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 8:59 PM Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > On Feb 16, 2021, at 5:50 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at

DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2021-02-20 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
Here's a draft report! -Aris --- PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it, and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the quorum is 5, the voting method is AI-majority, and the val

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Clarify dependent actions (attn Promotor)

2021-02-21 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 10:31 AM Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: > > I pend the following proposal (identical to proto). > > Proposal: Clarify dependent actions > (AI = 3) Statement from the Promotor: There has been some question as to whether this proposal was validly submitted. After c

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] You CAN, CAN'T You?

2021-02-21 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 3:45 PM Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote: > > > > On Feb 20, 2021, at 11:13 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business > > wrote: > > > > I submit the following proposal. > > > > -Aris > > --- > > Title: You CAN, CAN'T You? > > Adoption index: 3.0 > > Author: Aris > >

DIS: [Proto] Uncanny Fixes

2021-02-25 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
When I was going through the rules to find CAN instances without methods that need fixing, I found a bunch of other places where CAN and other MMI terms were just used... weirdly. Not all of them are even obviously incorrect, but all of the instances in this proposal at least felt out of place to m

Re: DIS: [Proto] Uncanny Fixes

2021-02-28 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 9:43 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > > On 2/28/2021 9:32 AM, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote: > >> Amend Rule 107, "Initiating Agoran Decisions", by replacing: > >> > >>The vote collector for a decision with less than two options > >>CAN and

DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2021-02-28 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
My draft report follows. -Aris --- PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it, and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the quorum is 5, the voting method is AI-majority, and the v

DIS: [Proto] You Can Only Stack Turtles So High

2021-03-08 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
Here's a proposal to fix G.'s promise recursion bug. Just to clarify the authorship, I independently arrived at this idea before Gaelan did and posted it on the discord. G. didn't think it would work, and e convinced me. After Gaelan introduced it on list, I went over it again with G. and we figur

DIS: (no subject)

2021-03-08 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
nix pointed out that the trick that allows you to cash your own promise is a weird and counter-intuitive hack. This would allow people to reclaim their own promises from the library more cleanly, and make it the default behavior, while still allowing people to override it. -Aris --- Title: I Want

DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2021-03-19 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
Here's my draft. I'm sorry there hasn't been a report for a while — I've been busy finishing up my quarter, but I'm out of school now. Corrections are, as always, welcome. -Aris --- PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it, and remo

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