Re: DIS: Non-email public fora

Speaking of which, I own the agronomic Google Group if we ever want to set that up as a backup. Gaelan > On Feb 25, 2019, at 8:59 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > > One key trait of Nomic that comes from its main spin as a game built around > rule changes is adaptability. I am of the opinion that,

Re: DIS: Re: [Herald] vote for the best Ruleset find

Well, if you insist. {Gaelan, CB, Telainor, twg} Gaelan > On Feb 25, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Well done agora - if I count this, not only is 1st & 2nd place now a tie, > but the 3rd/4th race would also be a tie. Way to make decisions, people :PP > > On 2/25/2019 3:05 PM,

DIS: Re: OFF: Contest wrap-up

> On Feb 27, 2019, at 4:24 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Thanks, all! This was fun. > > Purses: > I transfer 25 coins to Galean. > I transfer 15 coins to Telnaior (bonus award for close 2nd place). > > I announce my intent to award Gaelan the unique patent title "Too > Intense" with 2 Agoran Co

DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie Auction

I bid a coin. Gaelan > On Mar 1, 2019, at 12:06 PM, D. Margaux wrote: > > I initiate a zombie auction, with the following lots (each zombie a separate > lot) ordered as follows (highest-bid first): > > 1. Tarhalindur > > Agora is the Auctioneer, and the Registrar is the Announcer. The > c

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Ruleset Ratification

Looks like I put it as the second rule when I did my big reorganization after becoming Rulekeepor. It wasn’t a drastic change, though—G has it as the sixth. Gaelan > On Mar 2, 2019, at 9:29 PM, ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk wrote: > > On another note, whose idea was it to put rule 1698 as the second

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Forbes 500

Seems like the solution here is to define (in a rule) “by announcement, stating…” as requiring the “stating” bit to be part of the public message. Gaelan > On Mar 5, 2019, at 12:48 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > CFJ, barring twg: G. has earned 5 coins for the Herald's Report of > 17-Feb-2019. >

Re: DIS: doing stuff?

FWIW, my recollection from my SPOOKY scam is that noting cares about the end of an unction actually been announced. Gaelan > On Apr 8, 2019, at 5:26 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On 4/8/2019 12:03 PM, James Cook wrote: >> I've just been busy, personally. > > Ya I totally meant to add the "jus

DIS: Re: OFF: Re: [Herald] The Scroll of Agora

I kinda feel like patent titles should be one of those things that shouldn’t be ratified—we should be able to recognize titles that were accidentally omitted at some point. I don’t feel quite strongly enough to object, but I Grumble Loudly. Gaelan > On Apr 22, 2019, at 9:30 AM, Kerim Aydin w

Re: DIS: Office Apportionment

I’d be willing to take up an office in a week or two (after AP tests), but I’m unfortunately too busy at the moment. > On Apr 27, 2019, at 7:38 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > We need to decide who will take which offices. Currently we need a new > ADoP, Arbitor, Assessor, Astronomor, Clork, He

DIS: Re: BUS: Email Weirdness Etc

I received it as well (Fastmail here). > On Apr 28, 2019, at 1:53 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > I haven't gotten this email yet [1]. It shows up in the archive, but > not in my inbox. Is anyone else having this problem? > > Also, I don't believe the decision on who should be Prime Minister wa

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8174A and 8175

Votes inline Gaelan > On Apr 28, 2019, at 2:19 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran > Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal > pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the > quorum is 3, t

DIS: Re: OFF: Another zombie auction

I bid a coin as well. Gaelan > On May 9, 2019, at 6:54 AM, James Cook wrote: > > I initiate a zombie auction, with the following lots (each zombie a > separate lot) ordered as follows (highest-bid first): > > 1. V.J. Rada > 2. Telnaior > 3. L > 4. Baron von Vaderham > > Agora is the Auctionee

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8251-8252

Votes inline. Also I flip my master switch to myself, I guess. Gaelan > On Oct 6, 2019, at 7:56 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran > Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal > pool. For this decision, the vot

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Unoffical contest: subgame in a rule

Little bit of lint: - Your switches don’t specify officers so get tracked by the Registrar. You need to specify that Watch Role is tracked by the Watchman, and that Look Target is untracked. (If it were tracked, the Watchman would need to publish its values, which I think defeats the point.) -

DIS: Re: BUS: [proposal] Mother, May I? Fix

Oh Lordy. POSSIBLE is a requirement for the following: 2154/53 - SHALL requirement to end unresolved elections 2160/20 - Deputization 2466/1 - Acting on behalf 2574/3 - SHALL requirement to resolve zombie-maintainance intents Luckily, I think that POSSIBLE is obvious enough that it works even wit

Re: DIS: Something vaguely interesting

I’ve got a vaguely similar, if less comprehensive, set of keywords used for links in my online ruleset viewer. I’m not in front of a computer at the moment, but it’s somewhere in the GitHub org. Gaelan > On Oct 10, 2019, at 9:15 PM, Jason Cobb wrote: > > Hey all, > > I've created something

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8251-8252

My apologies. Gaelan > On Oct 12, 2019, at 2:23 PM, Edward Murphy wrote: > > Jason Cobb wrote: > >>> On 10/12/19 5:17 PM, Edward Murphy wrote: >>> and cause my zombie to endorse me on each. >> This is INEFFECTIVE. Gaelan used to be your zombie, but e has flipped eir >> Master to emself. >

Re: DIS: Proto: Interesting Chambers v2

Few nits that AFIACT have gone unpicked: > On Sep 25, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Reuben Staley wrote: > > G. expressed support of this proposal, and others expressed support of eir > ideas for reform, so I'm taking that as a sign that I should continue my work > on this proposal. > > - > Title:

DIS: Proto: tagged paragraphs

Create a power-3 rule entitled "Tagged Paragrpahs" with the following text: { For the purposes of this rule, "paragraphs" are sections of rules seperated by two or more newlines. A paragraph within a rule is known as a "tagged paragraph" if it begins with a in square brackets, and that number

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Popularity* Contest v2

> On Oct 20, 2019, at 9:11 AM, Nch wrote: > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ >>> On Sunday, October 20, 2019 10:56 AM, Jason Cobb >>> wrote: >> Sorry, I know this isn't a proto anymore, but I think this may still be >> broken. >>> On 10/20/19 11:23 AM, Nch wrote: >>> I submit the followin

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Clean up your own mess

on't have to > worry about whether each one causes too many wins). > > -G. > > On 10/20/2019 2:40 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: >> Bleh. >> I note that holding a potentially-infinite number of offices would be an >> amusing punishment for lazy rule-writi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fwd: [Herald] Subgame-in-a-Rule contest vote open!

Ooh, how do we define local time? Some possibilities I see: 1) A time zone switch, with some reasonable timeout for switching it. Could be a little annoying if someone’s going to a substantially different time zone for a few days. 2) The time zone where the player currently physically is—I think

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Why Not All Of Them?

A few comments inline. Gaelan > On Oct 20, 2019, at 6:35 PM, Nch wrote: > > Since we're spitballing ideas anyway right now... > > I intend to, after some time for review, submit the following proposal, > "Roulette Gaming", with AI=1: > > Enact a power-0.6 rule titled "Roulette Gaming" with t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Democracy

I had no idea that it was supposed to be a registration attempt until I saw others discussing it, so I think it’s a stretch to say it was reasonably {clear, ambiguous}. Gaelan > On Oct 22, 2019, at 5:14 PM, ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk wrote: > > On Wed, 2019-10-23 at 00:06 +, James Cook wrote

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ -- Is ais523 a player?

Also, even after ais noted that they knew they weren’t registered, I still didn’t realize that it was a registration attempt—I assumed it would be some scam involving the “right now” and some sort of retroactive registration. Gaelan > On Oct 22, 2019, at 11:37 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: >

DIS: Re: BUS: protective ratification

Does this ratify that no other wins/titles exist? If so, I’m inclined to object. Gaelan > On Oct 25, 2019, at 8:32 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > >  > (just in case) > > I intend, without objection, to ratify the Herald's Monthly Report (patent > titles and their holders) published on Sept 22, 20

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Encouraging Democracy Through Capitalism or Who Pays Subs Full Wages Anyway

To be honest, I’m not sure I see the point. In my experience interim incumbents nearly always win elections, and most modern Agoran offices have very little power anyway. All I really see this doing is punishing those who take up work that’s not being done. Gaelan > On Oct 26, 2019, at 5:43 A

Re: DIS: jobs

I am also considering taking up the role, but I’m happy to leave it to you. Or we could set up some sort of contract (grumbles about having to study up on Agoran contract law these days) to share the workload? Gaelan > On Oct 26, 2019, at 8:19 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > > On Saturday, Oc

Re: DIS: jobs

I could set up a mail rule to forward you everything from *@protonmail.com to the Agora lists. Depending on how that forwarding works, it might get past the filter. Gaelan > On Oct 26, 2019, at 8:36 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > > On Saturday, October 26, 2019 3:22 PM, Nch wrote: >> I'm c

Re: DIS: jobs

I seem to recall that manually typing “BUS:” before message subjects prevents the mailing list from changing messages at all, solving some of these issues. Gaelan > On Oct 26, 2019, at 9:55 AM, "ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk" > wrote: > > On Sat, 2019-10-26 at 16:23 +, ais...@alumni.bham.ac.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Encouraging Democracy Through Capitalism or Who Pays Subs Full Wages Anyway

019 at 15:23, Gaelan Steele wrote: >> To be honest, I’m not sure I see the point. In my experience interim >> incumbents nearly always win elections, and most modern Agoran offices have >> very little power anyway. All I really see this doing is punishing those who >> t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Encouraging Democracy Through Capitalism or Who Pays Subs Full Wages Anyway

/contracts, with the “actual” license on the code remaining BSD or whatever.) Gaelan > On Oct 26, 2019, at 6:16 PM, Jason Cobb wrote: > > On 10/26/19 8:53 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: >> TL;DR: No “officeholders”; anyone can do a job if it hasn’t been done yet >> that {week,

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8253-8264

Votes inline. Gaelan > On Oct 26, 2019, at 11:31 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran > Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal > pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the > quorum is

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Encouraging Democracy Through Capitalism or Who Pays Subs Full Wages Anyway

Heh, it’s pretty standard. It happened with Rulekeepor too: G had some some sort of ruleset automation, which to be fair wasn’t public. I parsed his FLR into YAML and wrote the new code in Ruby. Alexis kept the YAML format and rewrote the code in Haskell, of all things. Trigon kept the YAML, bu

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Encouraging Democracy Through Capitalism or Who Pays Subs Full Wages Anyway

Ah. You mentioned something about having the ruleset in XML (of course, you mentioned that right after I parsed everything…), and I assumed that was part of some automation. Gaelan > On Oct 28, 2019, at 4:17 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On 10/28/2019 3:06 PM, Gaelan Steele w

DIS: In defense of 8259

I’m getting quite a few AGAINST votes on my proposal 8259 ("Clean up your own mess, without making a bigger one”), and not quite sure about why. The proposal’s a bit confusing, so maybe there’s confusion about what it does? I’ll attempt to clarify: The proposal creates an *imposed* office for e

DIS: Proto: review period

{ Amend rule 2350 “Proposals” as follows: * replace “A player CAN create a proposal by announcement“ with “A player CAN create a proposal With 23 Hours Notice.” * after the list, add a new paragraph: “Additionally, a player CAN, but SHALL NOT, create a proposal by announcement, specifying the sam

Re: DIS: Proto: review period

Replies inline. Gaelan > On Oct 31, 2019, at 5:38 PM, Jason Cobb wrote: > > On 10/31/19 8:28 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: >> { >> Amend rule 2350 “Proposals” as follows: >> * replace “A player CAN create a proposal by announcement“ with “A player >> CAN creat

Re: DIS: Proto: review period

We used to have the same system—the Promotor COULD start a decision on any proposal, but was PROHIBITED to do so on non-pended ones. AFIAK, people were happy with that system. Gaelan > On Nov 1, 2019, at 12:33 PM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > > That replaces ossification with a situation where pla

Re: DIS: Proto: review period

players at least claim they checked it before submitting proposals, but maybe it’d work as just an unofficial document (or an official one that players only SHOULD read). Gaelan > On Nov 3, 2019, at 12:00 AM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 6:03 PM Gaelan Steel

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8253-8265

I note that I’m actively working on producing an updated ruleset—if anyone is doing the same, please get in touch so we can avoid duplicating work. Gaelan > On Nov 3, 2019, at 8:57 AM, Jason Cobb wrote: > > I find that the Agoran decisions on whether to adopt proposals 8257 and 8259 > were ne

DIS: Proto-tournament: Nomaoic

[TL;DR: Nomic, but the ruleset isn’t published and proposals are private. The intention is that you’d make your proposal, and share the next with just enough people to get a majority voting for it.] Initial Set of Rules Immutable Rules 101. All players must always abide by all the rules then in

DIS: An apology ("resigning" rulekeepor)

A few weeks ago I mentioned that I was working on taking Rulekeepor. I’ve been busier than I expected (college applications… what’s with UW’s November deadline?), and haven’t put out a report yet. I’ve probably slowed down Agora a fair bit through that delay, and for that I’m sorry. That being s

DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Long Service Award, Redux

I support. > On Aug 2, 2015, at 1:51 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > > The previous intent having expired, > > I intend, with 2 Agoran Consent, to award aranea the Patent Title Nine > Months Long Service. > > -scshunt

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of proposals 7780-83

> On Aug 2, 2015, at 2:49 PM, Luis Ressel wrote: > > I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran > Decision of whether to adopt it. For this decision, the vote collector > is the Assessor, and the valid options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is > also a valid vote). > > ID

DIS: Predictions: A Proposal Idea

I have an idea for a proposal. If there is interest, I will write a formal proposal for it. The idea goes like this: If a player has a guess on what an action taken by another player will be (including a timeframe), they can privately notify all other players. All players (except for the predi

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Expedition] [AKA Proposal Distribution] Mammon Machine

I vote against. This sounds like an evil plan for omd to win. > On Aug 3, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Sprocklem wrote: > > On 2015-08-03 19:29, omd wrote: >> I submit the following proposal, pend it, and specially deputise for >> the Promotor to distribute it, thereby expediting it. For this >> decision,

DIS: Prototype Proposal: $$$$

Title: Author: Gaelan AI: 1 Create the power-1 rule “$$$” with this text, excluding sections in brackets: The Bankor is an office,

Re: DIS: Prototype Proposal: $$$$

sal [not necessarily FOR] gains 100 $$$. > On Aug 14, 2015, at 4:19 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Fri, 14 Aug 2015, Gaelan Steele wrote: >> $$$ is a entity switch, tracked by the Bankor

Re: DIS: Footnotes version

I’d say submit the RFC thing. I would find it fun, though I don’t think Agora would let it go through. > On Aug 14, 2015, at 1:58 PM, omd wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 4:11 PM, omd wrote: >>> No feedback on the concept even? oh well, maybe not worth doing. >> >> You're not supposed to sa

Re: DIS: yoyo (attn: Registrar)

I’m thinking maybe we should migrate to Google Groups at some point, because GG is quite unlikely to go down, and even if it gets Reader’d, they will almost certainly provide a data download. Groups also has a nicer UI than Mailman/The List Archive. > On Aug 14, 2015, at 6:17 PM, omd wrote: >

Re: DIS: yoyo (attn: Registrar)

Update: I’ve claimed agorano...@googlegroups.com. If we ever want to make that transition, I can transfer ownership to whoever currently manages the mailing lists (or someone we agree on). > On Aug 14, 2015, at 6:25 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > > I’m thinking maybe we should migrate

Re: DIS: yoyo (attn: Registrar)

Groups has support for categories within lists, but it’s a bit weird: Categories may only be set via the web UI, which means you must post a message, then put it in BUS/DIS/OFF afterward via the site. Categories automatically Reply-To the same category. > On Aug 14, 2015, at 8:47 PM, omd wrote:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: $$$$

Oh, I did 80 characters. Whoops! > On Aug 16, 2015, at 3:16 PM, Luis Ressel wrote: > > On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 16:25:37 -0700 > Gaelan Steele wrote: > >> I submit this proposal: >> >>

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7785-86

Tritto. > On Aug 16, 2015, at 7:47 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Sprocklem wrote: >> On 2015-08-16 16:28, Luis Ressel wrote: >>> ID Author(s) AI Title >>> - >>> 7785* G. 1.0 The New Map >> FOR >>> 7786* sc

DIS: Re: BUS: could agora be nearly web 2.0?

One piece of advice: link terms used to the relevant rules, i.e. whenever a rule contains a text “SHOULD,” that text could be a link to the rule “Mother, May I?”. > On Aug 16, 2015, at 10:21 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > comment, please: > https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/agora/rules/ >

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

First, a note: these proposals need to be reissued to require Credits v2 to be adopted instead. Also, is there anything preventing me from taking all of someone's credits for missing a minor deadline? > On Feb 3, 2016, at 1:39 PM, Henri Bouchard wrote: > > -

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposal(s) 7850 (Attempt 1)

I’ve been watching Agora off and on for a few years now, and I too am saddened to see you go. Before you go, G., would you mind publishing the XML ruleset you mentioned that you had? I imagine it would make life much easier for whoever followed you. > On May 15, 2017, at 9:29 AM, Kerim Aydin wr

DIS: Re: BUS: Super Election Season

For Rulekeepor, I've parsed the current FLR into YAML files and am working on scripts to generate the FLR, SLR and probably an HTML file from the YAML. Maybe it would be possible to have proposals submitted as diffs? That way it would be trivial for the Keepor to apply them. If I were elected as

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Machine-Readable Reports

I don't think "machine readable" needs to be defined any more clearly for now—it's a SHOULD, so if you wanted to ignore the rule you'd be perfectly fine anyway. What are the rules for determining the source of a message? Could we have a web-based form for transferring currency that simultaneous

DIS: Rule question: Deputization/Cleanup Time

Is it possible to invoke Cleanup Time to reformat the ruleset as I deputize to submit it? Gaelan smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

DIS: [Proto] G. Shiny repair

If G.’s shines do become lost, I would like to propose this in advance: Title: Shiny Reshuffling AI: 2 Amend Rule 2487 (Shiny Supply Level) by replacing 1000 with 1001. After any changes to the gamestate occur as a result of the previous change, amend the same rule by replacing 1001 with 1000.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Machine-Readable Reports

17, 2017, at 12:41 AM, Gaelan Steele wrote: >> >> Very well. I retract my proposal, replacing it with an informal request that >> if someone has a machine-readable record they use to generate their report, >> they publish it. We shouldn’t expect that to be 100% accurate 10

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Machine-Readable Reports

Yes. I intend to deputize as soon as the SLR becomes overdue (is it? I thought G. said it wasn’t, but I thought it was). > On May 17, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > >> On May 17, 2017, at 10:57 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: >> >> Yup. I’ve got someth

Re: DIS: Proto-proposal: Some economic suggestions

The only problem I see is that the secretary is free to cheat on the randomness with no accountability. It’s possible to generate verifiable randomness (hash of the Bitcoin block mined immediately after the timestamp of this message); we might want to incorporate that. I see four ways to do this

Re: DIS: Proto-proposal: Some economic suggestions

;> On May 17, 2017, at 11:26 PM, Gaelan Steele > <mailto:g...@canishe.com>> wrote: >> >> The only problem I see is that the secretary is free to cheat on the >> randomness with no accountability. It’s possible to generate verifiable >> randomness (ha

DIS: The Hypertext Logical Ruleset

I quickly threw together an HTML format of the ruleset. The formatting’s a bit off (I’ll be invoking Cleanup Time soon to fix some of it), but it’s decent. It also has keywords link to relative rules, which should make it a bit easier for newcomers to read the ruleset. https://agoranomic.github.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Tailor] Ribbons

I have a cyan now as well. Not sure if the republished report reflects the game state at the time of the initial publishing or the republishing. Gaelan > On May 17, 2017, at 11:08 PM, Quazie wrote: > > COE PSS and I have Cyans > > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 20:56 Alex Smith

Re: DIS: The Wiki, Revived and Revamped

I’ve invited you to the @AgoraNomic organization on GitHub if you’d like to move the wiki there. I figure it’s probably a good idea to have stable URLs for these things instead of moving the ruleset every time the Rulekeepor changes. > On May 4, 2017, at 4:02 PM, Nic Evans wrote: > > I've reviv

Re: DIS: GitHub Notifications

I think maybe not. At least with the rule set, I don't think the notifications would be very useful. All of the changes will either be adopted proposals (redundant with the Assessor) or changes to my scripts/the formatting (irrelevant). Gaelan > On May 18, 2017, at 6:45 AM, Publius Scribonius

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Tailor] Ribbons

I'm not particularly inclined to, but I'm tempted to deputized for Herald first so that it is impossible for you to fulfill your pledge. Gaelan > On May 18, 2017, at 2:57 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: > > Given that the Tailor has been deputised for, I hereby pledge to > deput

Re: DIS: Supply Level Change - Proto

Why require the secretary's action? Why not just "if, at any point, the sum of all Balance switches does not equal the Balance Level" Gaelan > On May 18, 2017, at 12:53 PM, Quazie wrote: > > I proto-submit the following proto-proposal entitled "Shiny Releveling Event" > AI=2 > > Update the t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cleanup Time (and Markdown reward agency)

Gaelan > On May 18, 2017, at 6:27 PM, Quazie wrote: > > > On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 18:23 Gaelan Steele <mailto:g...@canishe.com>> wrote: > I intend to cause “Cleanup Time” to make the following rules, without > Objection: > > Amend the following rules by replac

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 7852

FOR Gaelan > On May 16, 2017, at 9:20 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran > Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal > pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, and the > valid options are FO

DIS: Re: [Arbitor] OFF: [Deputy Arbitor] Judge assignments

My reading of the rules (person can communicate logical thoughts, player is a registered person) makes me believe that Alexis and scshunt refer to the same player, and therefore are synonyms. Therefore, I believe that the ratified Tailor’s report is equivalent to this: Alexis: CWY scshunt: ROCB

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cleanup Time (and Markdown reward agency)

I did. Gaelan > On May 19, 2017, at 2:54 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: > > Well, since you have had objection you must begin again. > > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > >> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 9:36 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote:

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: 蘭亭社の憲章の修正箇条 2017/05/19

"Organizational Restructuring:" > If a Charter does not specify the appropriateness of an amendment to its > Organization, or if it attempts to specify the appropriateness of such an > amendment but in a way that is unclear, ambiguous, circular, inconsistent, > paradoxical, or that depends on i

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: 蘭亭社の憲章の修正箇条 2017/05/19

Where? > On May 19, 2017, at 10:53 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: > > It has already been determined that Japanese acceptable. > > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > > 2017-05-19 11:08 GMT-04:00 Gaelan Steele : >> "Organizational Res

Re: DIS: The Gmail (or really modern web mail) problem

Why is this related to webmail? > On May 19, 2017, at 11:13 AM, Quazie wrote: > > Proto-Proposal: This time to a public forum > Create a new rule, power .5 entitled "Traveling Message Infraction" with the > following text: > {{{ > Players SHOULD NOT muddy up the waters by sending messages first

DIS: CFJ data for FLR

Currently our CFJ data is a bit duplicated between the Rulekeepor's and Arbritor's records. I think it would be optimal if we did things like this: - Summary field on (some) CFJs in the CFJ database similar to how they are listed in the FLR now. - Field in either the CFJ or ruleset database li

Re: DIS: CFJ data for FLR

7, at 1:23 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 19 May 2017, Gaelan Steele wrote: >> Currently our CFJ data is a bit duplicated between the Rulekeepor's and >> Arbritor's records. I think it would be optimal if we did things like this: >> >>

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ: Ambiguity

Whew. I wasn't excited about that. Gaelan > On May 19, 2017, at 12:32 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: > > I would like to judge this. > > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > >> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 3:12 PM, Quazie wrote: >> I explicitly ask to not judge this CFJ >> >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3501 assigned to ais523

I remember reading something in the FLR saying it wasn't. I'm not sure if it was a CFJ or a rule, but registration is special anyway. Gaelan > On May 19, 2017, at 1:41 PM, Quazie wrote: > > Valid - I was unsure if subject line only information was considered valid > (and should've included t

Re: DIS: Bleach, what is it good for?

Yeah, that confused me. To stay on the safe side, I went to a lot of effort to preserve white space when I imported the ruleset until I could invoke Cleanup Time. Gaelan > On May 19, 2017, at 1:45 PM, Quazie wrote: > > I was looking at the following rule when trying to determine if the spacin

Re: DIS: CFJ data for FLR

How is the CFJ database stored now? If it's flat files, you could upload it to GitHub under AgoraNomic (I can invite you) Gaelan > On May 19, 2017, at 2:25 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > Happy to have help! I'm not starting in on this immediately (didn't mean to > be discouraging, > just w

Re: DIS: Programmable actions:

The rules specify that a game message may be spread across multiple email messages as long as it is clear how they are joined together, which makes me think there is no mailing list threshold requirement. Gaelan > On May 19, 2017, at 1:02 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: > > So, d

Re: DIS: Programmable actions:

CFJs 1451-1452. My bad. Gaelan > On May 19, 2017, at 5:46 PM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > >> On Fri, 19 May 2017, Gaelan Steele wrote: >> >> The rules specify that a game message may be spread across multiple email >> messages as long as it is clear how they are j

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cyan Ribbons of the Grand Deputies

My family runs our own email as well, and I didn't get it either. Gaelan > On May 19, 2017, at 9:12 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > I run my own mail infrastructure (fx: waits for the gasps of shock to die > down) and I didn’t get that, either. I’ll have to check what got eaten by > spamd, but

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: (no subject)

I assume those links are copypasted from the links in the ruleset itself. If you wanted permalinks, you could link directly to the YAML files in the repo. I don't know of a good way to do versioning of GH pages; I'd need something to talk with GH's API and pull down the correct version of the ru

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: [Arbitor] OFF: [Deputy Arbitor] Judge assignments

dge to pay for judgements on six outstanding > CFJs, if I inherited G.’s shinies, then I pay 20 Shinies to Gaelan, and I pay > 20 Shinies to Gaelen. > > -o > >> On May 19, 2017, at 12:26 AM, Gaelan Steele wrote: >> >> I judge 3463 and 3464 as TRUE. >>

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: [Arbitor] OFF: [Deputy Arbitor] Judge assignments

is currently a matter of some debate; I’ve only > pledged them if I have them. > > Also, I can’t spell. If need be, I can CFJ that you are also known as Gaelen, > but would prefer not to be. I apologize for the mis-step - can I blame the > wine? > > -o > >> On M

DIS: Proto: Faster Vote Resolution

Perhaps I’m impatient, but 7 days is an awfully long time to wait when most players vote within a day or two of the decision being announced. I protose this: Create a rule named “Early Resolution” with power 3.1: If an Agoran decision: 1. Has enough votes such that the result of the decision cou

Re: DIS: Proto: Faster Vote Resolution

beginning of the 24 hour period, and maybe even allow explicitly cancelling the early resolution (without changing their vote). > On May 20, 2017, at 12:00 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > > On May 20, 2017, at 2:50 AM, Gaelan Steele <mailto:g...@canishe.com>> wrote: > >&

Re: DIS: Proto-proposal: Some economic suggestions

I feel like we currently have two parallel currency systems, shinies and income. I think it is probably a good idea to unify the two at some point. Gaelan > On May 20, 2017, at 12:20 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > I might want to tie this to either a decrease in the income floor or an > increase

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Establishing an Agency can be Expensive

is is what limited agency proposal is for, this awfulness. > >> On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 08:44 Gaelan Steele wrote: >> For the purposes of this message, this is defined as The List: >> Apple >> Banana >> Cat >> Dog >> Elephant >> Frisbee >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Establishing an Agency can be Expensive

Could the officer have a shorthand like mine in their report? > On May 20, 2017, at 9:25 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > >> On Sat, 20 May 2017, Quazie wrote: >> You are the worst. I will likely give up superintendent if you Finalize the >> intent on these. >> >> Also PSS this is what limited

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resolving MKD

http://www.mail-archive.com/agora-business@agoranomic.org/msg28175.html > On May 20, 2017, at 12:14 PM, Quazie wrote: > > MKD? I can't find the initial intent? > >> On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 12:10 Gaelan Steele wrote: >> I resolve my intent to create MKD. >> >> Gaelan

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resolving MKD

information` is a valid intent to establish an agency. > > On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 12:38 PM Quazie <mailto:quazieno...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Ah-ha! Thanks. > > On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 12:37 PM Gaelan Steele <mailto:g...@canishe.com>> wrote: > http://www.mail-ar

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resolving MKD

*sigh* > On May 20, 2017, at 2:14 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: > > "clear and ambiguous" not unambiguous? > > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > > On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 5:09 PM, Gaelan Steele <mailto:g...@canishe.com>> wro

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Super Election Season

My vote goes to the GitHub. > On May 20, 2017, at 3:52 PM, Edward Murphy wrote: > > ais523 wrote: > >> Secretary: One of the more difficult offices. (It's the spiritual >> successor of Notary, which I held for a long time and was rather time- >> consuming). However, having offices like this te

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