[Assam] Congrats to Mr. Shantikam Hazarika

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Congrats to Mr. Shantikam Hazarika on being appointed as Chairman, SEBA 
(Secondary Education Board of Assam). Hope to see some educational reforms in 
India very soon.

Mridul Bhuyan
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Re: [Assam] Magh Bihu in Delhi (Alpana B. Sarangapani )

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Hi Alpana Ba,

I was not aware that Leon Baker is your nephew. I had visited Leon's quite a 
few 
times. This time during Uruka celebrations in Gurgaon, he also participated 
along with his friends. I was also not aware that this time you were in 
Gurgaon. 
If I would've known, I could've met u ppl.

Mridul Bhuyan





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Thanks to all of you, who have sent condolence massage on my mother?s passed 
way 
on 19th December 2010 (Sunday).
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My heartfelt condolences.
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Re: [Assam] banana...

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Is it in Assam?
nbsp;
Mridul

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Re: [Assam] Hamilton Court

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Ya, B'cosnbsp;majority of themnbsp;r frm a state, whomnbsp;I don't like. :)

--- On Wed, 6/11/08, umesh sharma lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote:

From: umesh sharma lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
Subject: Re: [Assam] Hamilton Court
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from 
around the world lt;assam@assamnet.orggt;
Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 1:02 PM


so you don't care about your neighborhood :-)

Umesh

Mridul Bhuyan lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote:
Well Dear Umesh, I am staying in Gurgaon for the last 5 yrs. Regarding your 
query about doing something for the displaced people, my focus is towards doing 
something for the people of Assam as of now.:)
nbsp;
Rgds
Mridul

--- On Tue, 6/10/08, umesh sharma lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote:

From: umesh sharma lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
Subject: Re: [Assam] Hamilton Court
To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world 
lt;assam@assamnet.orggt;, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 9:34 PM


The govt should provide for the people. Thats what the govt is for. If private 
individuals or corporations take it up on their own - then is it back to the 
good ol' days of East India Company running India?

Is that what we Indians want? That make it the job of the corporations to run 
the country's infrastructure. We citizens want to avoid all duties and only 
talk about rights. 

Mridul-da what are your plans to do something for these displaced people - I 
ask since you stay in Delhi ( I presume).


Umesh

uttam borthakur lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote:
(Mridul, I find in your matter of fact attitude a fresh whiff of air:-) I was 
inquring about you.) 

The following is directed to all our friends here:-

? Are the land deals of the real estate business aboveborad? In India, some 
governments are taking over land from small landowners for pittance called 
compensation on the plea of developing SEZs. Then, such SEZs do not come up. 
When the dispossessed demand the land back, they are not returned their land 
and instead those are handed over to real estate business for considerations 
other than those that are reflected.

VP Singh too raised the question of allottment of land to the Ambanis at 
lopsidedly low prices near Delhi in a TV program recently.

This is what is called 'private enterprise' in India and of course in Russia or 
any other countries where suave economic extractions give way to the 
extra-economic ones that may include intimidation, threat, murder etc (A recent 
Delhi killing of an encounter specialist is a pointer). It seems Balzac is 
still not irrelevant about crime behind great fortunes. You can be comfortable 
with honest money, but not that rich anyday, apologists notwithstanding.

Mridul Bhuyan wrote:
Yes, they (DLF, UNITECH etc.) are doing some work but those are not 
proportional to the money they are making. Further, in almost 50% areas, major 
constructions are going on and the migrating labour poulation along with others 
are putting a heavy burden on the limited infrastructure. So, the population 
growth out numbers the facility requirement. Even I know of many NGOs, many 
individuals, who are also contributing for providing better life amp; 
education to the poor. If the Govt. make some social obligations (school, 
roads, health care for the migrant labour population working under these 
companies) mandatory for these companies while granting permissions to their 
ventures, the situation will definitely improve.

Rgds
Mridul Bhuyan
--- On Tue, 6/10/08, Dilipamp;Dil Deka wrote:

From: Dilipamp;Dil Deka 
Subject: [Assam] Hamilton Court
To: ASSAMNET 
Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 11:05 AM

I did a little checking on Hamilton Court and its developer DLF Properties. If
what they claim they are doing for corporate responsibility, they are on the
right track and there should be more of them. Can we believe what we see on
their website? May be someone from Delhi can tell us.
Visit
http://www.dlf.in/wps/portal/DLFCity?jspName=investors/corporate_social_responsibility.jsp
There should be no shame in their making money from the high income earners,
if they also donate part of it to the community around them.
Dilip Deka
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Re: [Assam] Hamilton Court

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Yes, they (DLF, UNITECH etc.) are doing some work but those are 
notnbsp;proportional to the money they are making. Further, in almost 50% 
areas, major constructions are going on and the migrating labour poulation 
along with others are putting a heavy burden on the limited 
infrastructure.nbsp;So, the population growth out numbers the facility 
requirement. Even I know of many NGOs, many individuals, whonbsp;are also 
contributing for providing better life amp; education to the poor. If the 
Govt. makenbsp;some social obligations (school, roads, healthnbsp;care for 
the migrant labour population working under these 
companies)nbsp;mandatorynbsp;for these companies while granting permissions 
to their ventures, the situation will definitely improve.

Rgds
Mridul Bhuyan
--- On Tue, 6/10/08, Dilipamp;amp;Dil Deka lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote:

From: Dilipamp;Dil Deka lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
Subject: [Assam] Hamilton Court
To: ASSAMNET lt;assam@assamnet.orggt;
Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 11:05 AM

I did a little checking on Hamilton Court and its developer DLF Properties. If
what they claim they are doing for corporate responsibility, they are on the
right track and there should be more of them. Can we believe what we see on
their website? May be someone from Delhi can tell us.
Visit
http://www.dlf.in/wps/portal/DLFCity?jspName=investors/corporate_social_responsibility.jsp
There should benbsp;no shame in their making money from the high income 
earners,
if they also donate part of it to the community around them.
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Re: [Assam] Hamilton Court

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Well Dear Umesh, I am staying in Gurgaon for the last 5 yrs. Regarding your 
query about doing something for the displaced people, my focus is towards doing 
something for the people of Assam as of now.:)
nbsp;
Rgds
Mridul

--- On Tue, 6/10/08, umesh sharma lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote:

From: umesh sharma lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
Subject: Re: [Assam] Hamilton Court
To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world 
lt;assam@assamnet.orggt;, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 9:34 PM


The govt should provide for the people. Thats what the govt is for. If private 
individuals or corporations take it up on their own - then is it back to the 
good ol' days of East India Company running India?

Is that what we Indians want? That make it the job of the corporations to run 
the country's infrastructure. We citizens want to avoid all duties and only 
talk about rights. 

Mridul-da what are your plans to do something for these displaced people - I 
ask since you stay in Delhi ( I presume).


Umesh

uttam borthakur lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote:
(Mridul, I find in your matter of fact attitude a fresh whiff of air:-) I was 
inquring about you.) 

The following is directed to all our friends here:-

? Are the land deals of the real estate business aboveborad? In India, some 
governments are taking over land from small landowners for pittance called 
compensation on the plea of developing SEZs. Then, such SEZs do not come up. 
When the dispossessed demand the land back, they are not returned their land 
and instead those are handed over to real estate business for considerations 
other than those that are reflected.

VP Singh too raised the question of allottment of land to the Ambanis at 
lopsidedly low prices near Delhi in a TV program recently.

This is what is called 'private enterprise' in India and of course in Russia or 
any other countries where suave economic extractions give way to the 
extra-economic ones that may include intimidation, threat, murder etc (A recent 
Delhi killing of an encounter specialist is a pointer). It seems Balzac is 
still not irrelevant about crime behind great fortunes. You can be comfortable 
with honest money, but not that rich anyday, apologists notwithstanding.

Mridul Bhuyan wrote:
Yes, they (DLF, UNITECH etc.) are doing some work but those are not 
proportional to the money they are making. Further, in almost 50% areas, major 
constructions are going on and the migrating labour poulation along with others 
are putting a heavy burden on the limited infrastructure. So, the population 
growth out numbers the facility requirement. Even I know of many NGOs, many 
individuals, who are also contributing for providing better life amp; 
education to the poor. If the Govt. make some social obligations (school, 
roads, health care for the migrant labour population working under these 
companies) mandatory for these companies while granting permissions to their 
ventures, the situation will definitely improve.

Rgds
Mridul Bhuyan
--- On Tue, 6/10/08, Dilipamp;Dil Deka wrote:

From: Dilipamp;Dil Deka 
Subject: [Assam] Hamilton Court
To: ASSAMNET 
Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 11:05 AM

I did a little checking on Hamilton Court and its developer DLF Properties. If
what they claim they are doing for corporate responsibility, they are on the
right track and there should be more of them. Can we believe what we see on
their website? May be someone from Delhi can tell us.
Visit
http://www.dlf.in/wps/portal/DLFCity?jspName=investors/corporate_social_responsibility.jsp
There should be no shame in their making money from the high income earners,
if they also donate part of it to the community around them.
Dilip Deka
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Re: [Assam] Biren Barua

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Very sorry to hear that. Besides being a great academician, he was a great soul 
too. He taught us physics in Cotton during 1976-77. May his soul rest in peace.
nbsp;
Mridul Bhuyan

--- On Sun, 6/8/08, utpal borpujari lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote:

From: utpal borpujari lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
Subject: [Assam] Biren Barua
To: assam@assamnet.org
Date: Sunday, June 8, 2008, 10:16 PM

Sad news. Biren Barua sir, who taught physics to generations of Cottonians and
retired as a principal of the college, passed away at 5:25 pm today at his
residence near Zoo Road Tiniali in Guwahati. He was around 81, and was
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Re: [Assam] NYTimes.com: Inside Gate, India's Good Life; Outside, the Servants' Slums

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Hi,
nbsp;
Sorry for the unwanted interruption. I have been living in Delhi amp; Gurgaon 
for the last 15 years including 5 yrs. in Gurgaon. There are two parts (unseen) 
of Gurgaon- New amp; Old. the Old Gurgaon is no different than other Indian 
metros. The crowd residing in New Gurgaon are mostly young in the age group of 
25-45 yrs. of age.The livelihood of majority (about 70%) are jobs in 
multi-national companies, call centres, who are basically earning pure white 
money. Because of the boom in the economy, the salaries are very high so is the 
cost of living in Gurgaon, which is about 1.5 times higher than in Delhi. The 
majority of the people are in the higher earning group, the average earning 
varies from Rs. 3 lakhs per annum to Rs. 36-40 lakhs per annum and the average 
shall be roughlynbsp;to the tune of Rs.nbsp;8 lakhs per annum. Usually you 
will found both husband amp; wife working. They spend lavishly and don't care 
much about savings. The datas quoted
 are from a reliable source.
nbsp;
Rgds
Mridul Bhuyan

--- On Mon, 6/9/08, Dilipamp;amp;Dil Deka lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote:

From: Dilipamp;Dil Deka lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
Subject: Re: [Assam] NYTimes.com: Inside Gate, India's Good Life; Outside, the 
Servants' Slums
To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world 
lt;assam@assamnet.orggt;
Date: Monday, June 9, 2008, 11:37 PM

If you have doubts about private money financing IPL, please read the following.
You don't need to read all 100 things to get an idea.
I'll also check into the Gurgaon gated apartment complex to find out how it
was financed. Hopefully it will prove my point about private money being used
for many such projects. Entrepreneurship and free enterprise have moved into
the rest of India in a far more serious manner than in Assam.
Dilip Deka
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100 Things about Indian Premier League (IPL) 
Indian Premier League (IPL) has created a lot of attention in the cricket
world. In India, almost all the TV news channels are giving information about
IPL. Many websites and newspapers have also given substantial coverage to IPL
2008. Here in this blog, we are very busy with our last minutes effort too. We
have tried to give a lot of information and point you to some useful things.
Now, we have taken an effort to compile a list of 100 things about Indian
Premier League (IPL). Here, you will find links to some useful articles,
reports, entries etc.
1. Indian Premier League (IPL) is the richest cricket tournament in the world. 
2. BCCI is the organizer of IPL. 
3. IPL will start on 18 April 2008. 
4. The opening ceremony will take place in Bangalore. 
5. Bollywood stars like Shah Rukh Khan will be present in the opening ceremony.

6. Bangalore Royal Challengers vs Kolkata Knight Riders is the first match of
IPL. 
7. Rahul Dravid and Sourav Ganguly will be the captains of these two clubs. 
8. There will be some cheer leaders from USA to entertain the spectators in the
opening day. 
9. Star cricketers from all over the world are going to play in Indian Premier
League (IPL). 
10. IPL will be a Twenty20 format tournament. 
11. Some South African players may miss a couple of matches as they have home
duty. 
12. Schedule of Indian Premier League (IPL) 2008 is in this link. 
13. The rights of official website has been sold for $50 million to a Canadian
company. 
14. The rates of advertisement for TV is a bit high.
15. The people of Kolkata will perhaps see a battle of Mithun Chakraborty vs
Shah Rukh Khan.
16. BCCI announced the plan of IPL after ICL came into existence. 
17. No national cricket team is playing in IPL. So, fans may have a tough time
to decide which team to support.
18. 8 clubs are playing in Indian Premier League 2008. 
19. IPL matches will be shown live in all corners of the world.
20. Major cricket based websites like Cricinfo will have a tough time to cover
IPL matches.
21. Indian Premier League would be telecast live in almost every continent of
the world in different television channels.
22. A conglomerate comprising of India’s Sony Television Network and World
Sport Group from Singapore has bought the global broadcasting right of Indian
Premier League (IPL) for US$1.026 billion for ten years.
23. According to the deal, the consortium of Sony Television Network and World
Sport Group will pay US$918 million to BCCI for the telecast right of IPL and
US$108 million for promoting the tournament.
24. For the next five years meaning 2008-2012, IPL would get 20% of the money,
while 72% would go to the eight franchises of IPL and 8% is allocated for prize
money. After 2012, IPL would get a bigger share of the money.
25. In India, Sony SET Max would telecast the Indian Premier League (IPL)
matches live for the Indian cricket fans.
26. Ten Networks television channel of Australia would bring the IPL matches
live in Australia for free to air.
27. Willow

Re: [Assam] (no subject)

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Dear Alpana Ba,
   
  You can visit this site below and write to them for further information. 
However, it seems majority of the books are in Hindi and some are bilingual. 
Hope it helps.
   
  http://www.nationalbalbhavan.nic.in/index.asp
   
  Regards
   
  Mridul

Alpana B. Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Dear All:

I need help from some of you, especially the ones staying in Assam/India. If 
others can help it would also be great.

Do you know if there is a list of award winning authors of children's books 
from Assam or from any parts of India. They need to be written in Assamese 
and/or English. 

Like, here in Texas, they have a list of Texas Bluebonnet Award winning books 
(http://www.amazon.com/Bluebonnet-Award-Winners/lm/RY8XAEKVTGC2M), where one 
book a year is chosen by school children from a Master list of 20 books chosen 
by the committee. 

Anyway, please send me an email if you know of any good sources to find 
children's books and audio-visual materials in India.

Thank you!

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Re: [Assam] Building a prosperous Assam

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Dear Manoj,
   
  Your plans are really great. Assuming your plans are through, a dreamy 
scenario hit upon me. If it could've been true!! Of course, I don't see any 
reason why your plans could not be materialised. With the availability of 
funding from multilateral agencies, these plans could definitely see the light 
of the day. Before doing that, solutions to some of the riddles are necessary. 
As far as I know, the plan of 'Dredging' was earlier taken up by Govt. I don't 
know why they have abandoned that. Regarding economic viability of generating 
power by pumped storage (if you are talking about that), specially in NER, I 
have serious doubts. Anyway, sources for generating power in NER is abundant. 
Regarding utilisation of fresh water from NER, in spite of opposition from 
various sources, I still think 'River linking' might be a solution. 
   
  However, in my opinion, the major road block towards implementation of these 
plans, is stability in the region from the threat of insurgency. If we do not 
seriously think about solving this problem now, nothing will come out of all 
the planning. By the way, being in the capital city of India and remaining in 
the forefront of so many social activities, keeping in touch with so many 
powerful influential men, the onus lies on us, specially people like you. We 
ought to organise workshops, discussions, involoving media etc., have serious 
discussions with the concerned people and find out a way out of this circle. We 
will definitely have some serious talks regarding this, if you are really 
interested. Anyway 'Dreams never hurt'.:)
   
  Rgds
  Mridul Bhuyan

Manoj Das [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Umesh

I think the question is directed to me...
This is a grandiose idea- I know and will involve billions of
greenbacks..Stereo typed Indian planners will never think that big and for
Assam, they will never. I am seeding these ideas for the future generations,
who will be bold and more resourceful.

*And whats the problem if we have a first in India.*.:) And can you think
any other landmass in the world which is an untapped bridge between two
great economic blocks.

cheers!!
-manojda

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:34 AM, umesh sharma 
wrote:

 Pardon me if it seems rustic but I have never heard of dredging rivers in
 India -having lived in Delhi and having worked for national newsmedia.
 And Delhi based govt will not take up anything which seems
 out-of-the-world. so before someone puts forward this proposal show where
 else in India (preferably -compared to somewhere in Amazon river) dredging
 etc has been done -as proposed.

 Umesh

 bg wrote: *EDITORIAL*
 --
 *Building a prosperous Assam
 — Manoj Kumar Das* *
 A* blame game been going on for quite sometime now. People at the State
 blame the Centre for the underdevelopment in Assam, while Delhi's view is
 that the State doesn't have the capacity to absorb the funds and
 capability
 for translation into development. The time has come to think big and
 prepare
 a basket of Detailed project Reports keeping an overall vision plan in the
 perspective to fulfil Assam's destiny as the most prosperous land bridge
 between two great economic blocks. The following projects can be taken up
 for implementation in the next couple of decades:

 An important project will be dredging of the river Brahmaputra and its
 tributaries. A look at the satellite maps of the Brahmaputra Valley will
 reveal how land is being held by the river and its tributaries. We need
 not
 grudge though, for this soil had been reclaimed by the river system from
 the
 Himalayas during the past 200 million years through erosion. It can now be
 freed for developmental purpose. On a rough estimate, some 1.5 million
 hectares can be unlocked if we dig, dredge and train the rivers. The
 reclaimed soil can be dumped in a North-South direction in mounds to get
 the
 maximum surface area. These 1.5 million hectares of reclaimed land can be
 used to rehabilitate the misplaced people from flood prone areas.

 The project will necessitate displacement and relocation of the riverine
 people. They can be offered job and entrepreneurial opportunities. Canals
 will ne available for cheap water transport, irrigation, and running of
 the
 river plants. Water is already a scare resource and Brahmaputra drains out
 the largest amount of fresh in India into the Bay Bengal every year. We
 have
 one of the four largest metropolises in the world in the country and this
 offers a huge market for fresh water.

 We can build a huge water pipeline, similar to the oil pipeline, the
 intake
 of this pipeline can be on the river bed. There is no need to have high
 dam
 for this. Technology is available to pump out water like oil with a series
 of pumping stations. Power will come from the running of the river plants
 or
 some other source,. In a few year the North East will be a power surplus
 region.

 The Brahmnaputra expressways will come

[Assam] Invitation for Rongali Bihu 2008

[Mridul Bhuyan]

 ASSAM ASSOCIATION GURGAON 
  CELEBRATES 
  THE SPIRIT OF ASSAM 
  ‘RONGALI BIHU’ 
  ON 
  13TH APRIL 2008 
  (All are cordially invited) 
   
   
   HIGH LIGHTS OF THE EVENING: 
  
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  Assamese Songs by Ms. Luna Bharali Das 
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  An Exotic Assamese Dinner 
  
   
   Venue 
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  Programme 
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India 
  Night 09:30 to 10:30 PM : An Assamese Dinner 
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Re: [Assam] From AT--- What an Abomination!

[Mridul Bhuyan]

What I remember during my childhood, when I was probably in Class-X, In the 
Siva Doul Complex, prayer meetings of Sai Baba followers were held regularly on 
Sundays.
   
  However, I am of the opinion that allowing prayer in a temple complex does 
not entitle one to build a temple in the near vicinity of such an old temple 
complex against the law.
   
  Regards
  Mridul

Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Ram:

To give you a nasty reply:

Do you think the questions you ask about permits, neighborhood's 
apporval etc. have any merit in the context? What--have you become 
American or something ?


How did the municipality land got to Sai Baban's? Good question Ram. 
But not a smart one if you forgot what I mean.


 Why did the interested public not protest before the construction of the Sai
Baba temple started?


I have been trying to educate you folks about that., But obviously 
you don't learn do you?


 Lastly, why did the Sai Baba people want to build a temple right next to a
historical site?

Take a wild guess!


 Lastly, why did the Sai Baba people want to build a temple right next to a
historical site?

Take another wild guess!



 Bottom line Ram is this: These are structures of Assam's 
historical /archaeological heritage . The deserve not to be 
desecrated by new construction within its visual bounds -- no matter 
dedicated to what god/s , no matter how beautiful. It is a matter of 
cultural aesthetics, something our people need a ahuge amount of 
educating on.

Incidentally, when I become the Emperor of Xiboxagor, one of the 
first things I will do will be to tear down that horrible water tank 
that was built rifght near the Xibo-doul, nearly a quarter century 
back.


*** The Texan Mosque v/s the Church is an issue of religious 
bigotries on the part of the Church-wallas.
The Moswquewallas got the permit obviously because it is an area 
zoned for Places of Worship. So the Zoning authorities were not at 
fault. When the dispute goes to litigation, I would bet you a dollar 
the Mosque-wallas will win. Exactly similar thing happened right here 
in St. Louis, TWICE. Both the times the Mosques got built.

c-da :-)





At 8:48 AM -0600 3/27/08, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
C'da,

The preservation of historical and ancient idols are, of course, paramount,
and all of us should support such efforts.

Some questions do arise though:

How is it possible for any private organization to build on land owned by
the Sivasagar Municipality Board?

It seems the Sai Baba temple is being built as we speak, so how did the
District authorities give it permissions? Aren't these authorities also
interested in the preservation of these ancient idols?

Why did the interested public not protest before the construction of the Sai
Baba temple started? (when the permits were issued or the when the
foundations were just being laid). How does it benefit anyone at mid-waters?

Lastly, why did the Sai Baba people want to build a temple right next to a
historical site?

In Texas there was something vaguely similar.

A mosque was being built (on land purchased by some Muslim business people).
There was a Church nearby.
The issuing authorities of course issued permits without batting an eyelid.
But, no one protested when the permits were issued. Then there was a huge
public outcry against building of the mosque.
Now, I think it is in in litigation, and there is lot of ill feelings in
both communities.

Sometimes such confrontations can be deftly avoided with some prudence by
both the issuing authorities and the protesting public.

Religious groups often want to force their presence in some place or the
other, just because they have a 'right' to do so. And their reasoning seems
to be to propogate their brand of religion - make it more palatable among
the natives, so to speak :)

Also would a Naam Garh have made a difference? Don't know.

Skeptical as always:)

--Ram



On 3/27/08, Chan Mahanta wrote:

 Can we raise OUR voices in support of these 'scribes'? It will be a
 worthy effort.

 cm



 http://www.assamtribune.com/scripts/details.asp?id=mar2708\State2


 Scribes oppose Sai Baba temple near Bishnu Dol
 From Our Correspondent
 SIVASAGAR, March 26 - Scribes in Sivasagar, accredited to various
 newspapers and channels met DC Sivasagar NM Hussain and submitted a
  memorandum requesting him to intervene personally on behalf of
 District Administration in the construction of a three storey mandir
 of Sri Satya Sai Baba on a plot allegedly belonging to Sivasagar
 Municipality Board barely a few meters away from historic Bishnu-dol.
 It may be mentioned here that the three historic dols, Vishnu, Shiva
 and Devidol built by Borraja Draupadi Modambika, 2nd queen of King
 Shivasingha in 1731 AD are under preservation and protection of
 Archeological Survey of India (ASI) since 1988. According to ancient
 monuments and Archeological Sites  Remains Act 1959, no permanent
 construction on excavation work can be undertaken within a 

Re: [Assam] Assam - Perspective !

[Mridul Bhuyan]

In Youth wings of political parties, 55/56 yrs. old are also considered youth. 
:)
   
  Regards
  Mridul

Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Interesting,

The thing that surprised me most was this

among 2,270 students and youths in the age group of 15 to 40 

When did 40 become a youth?
Is 40 the new 20? :)

On another note, the question on ATMs - that really depends upon how common
ATMs are in more than a hundred villages and towns across Assam where the
survey was conducted.

--Ram

On 3/17/08, Buljit Buragohain wrote:




 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Siddharth Barthakur 
 Date: Jan 31, 2008 8:58 PM
 Subject: Assam - Perspective !
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Dear All,

 A questionnaire-based survey conducted in later part of 2007 among youths
 in Assam has revealed that their general knowledge is below par.Thissurvey 
 was conducted by the monthly magazine for youth 'Jiban' among 2,270
 students and youths in the age group of 15 to 40 in more than a hundred
 villages and towns across Assam. Editor of Jiban Mr Suresh Ranjan Goduka
 is a TATA-RGVN (Rashtriya Gramin Vikas Nidhi) senior fellow, who led the
 survey team.

 (1) 95 percent of the respondents do not know that there is a separate
 ministry for the northeast at the centre. 46 percent of those surveyed said
 there should be one!

 (2) What is more surprising is that 62 percent of the respondents were not
 aware of Assam's population while 73 percent did not have a clue about the
 state's literacy rate.

 (3) 38 percent of them did not know where money comes from at the ATMs,

 (4) A small 5 percent of those surveyed thought Sensex has something to do
 with sex!

 (5) At least 90 percent of those surveyed knew Baichung Bhutia is a
 footballer although 6 percent thought he was the king of Bhutan!
 The only silver lining, according to the highlights of the Youth Awareness
 Survey, is the health awareness level among the youths.
 (6) As much as 91 percent of the respondents knew that kissing does not
 spread AIDS and 93 percent were aware that jaundice is a water-borne
 disease.
 What is amazing is the lack of awareness among those surveyed about
 several common facts concerning Assam's history and politics.

 (7) 37 percent of the youths surveyed did not know that the Assam Accord
 signed in 1985 to end the six-year-long anti-foreigners stir had set March
 25, 1971 as the cut-off date for detection and expulsion of illegal migrants
 from the state.
 (8) 27 percent of the respondents thought that the Saraighat Bridge over
 the river Brahmaputra in state capital Guwahati was built by a king of the
 Ahom dynasty that ruled Assam for 600 years starting 1,228 AD. This bridge
 in fact was opened to traffic in 1962.
 Warm Regards.

 Siddharth Barthakur
 Skype: siddharthbarthakur
 New Delhi

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 recipients of this mail. For some of you, this mail may be irrelevant
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Re: [Assam] India's Car Culture -NYT

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Not only worrisome  Troublesome but also hazardous.:)
   
  Mridul

Manoj Das [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  There is cause to worry..but with MRTS being planned in a grand scaale in
all metros and major cities, the cars on road will come down with time..
nevertheless it's worrisome and troublesome to drive on delhi roads- which
we do regularly..

On Feb 13, 2008 10:03 PM, Ram Sarangapani wrote:

 Here is slide show from the NYT.
 http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2008/01/10/world/20080111INDIA_index.html

 I'm afraid to think what the situation will be even in 5-10 years from
 now.
 Delhi alone adds 650 cars a day, and there are 5.4 million vehicles (NYT
 figures)

 and this (Highlights mine):

 Officials in India's capital issued more than 300,000 driver's licenses
 last year, which could be seen as either a feat of bureaucratic efficiency
 or Indian ingenuity. *At one city licensing office this week, the test
 consisted of turning on the ignition and driving in a wide circle that
 took
 about a minute*. - NYT

 Pedicabs and bicycles crowd the streets with cars during rush hour in
 the
 old city of Delhi. *Extra-loud horns are the new flavor in car
 accessories*,
 along with a horn that beeps automatically when a car backs up.
 *High-beams
 are also a popular option*, and not just for dark country roads. - NYT
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Re: [Assam] on a biased report against people of Noth East

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Chan Da,
   
  *** Or was it a result of a prejudice, possibly born out of 
envy, possibly out of sheer
ignorance, and surely due to the Indian outlook of 
making broad-brush judgements
from tiny sampling; to paint NE women as immoral 
temptresses who are ruining the
morality of rich Dilliwallas?

  I might have missed ur point. You are right. Nothing is more true.
   
  Rgds
   
  Mridul
  
Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Mridul:

We are missing the point here.


WHO are the CUSTOMERS here of these immoral NE women who pay huge 
amounts of money for their services? Would there be such service 
providers if there were no customers? Are these customers also 
immoral foreigners like those women that were singled out?

How many prostitues are in Dilli? Any guesses? I have no problem 
believing that there are women from the NE who provide such services. 
But out of that how many could be one of those ---trendy Northeast 
Indian girl ? 50%, 10%, 1% ?

But why do they get picked on? For a very good reason: They are good 
looking, speak good English
and sophisticated. Remember, the report says they get very good fees 
for their services ?

So what was the motive of his guy who wrote this supposed expose' ?

*** To help eradicate a social evil in Dilli ?
*** To help eradicate trafficking of women from the NE?
*** Or was it a result of a prejudice, possibly born out of 
envy, possibly out of sheer
ignorance, and surely due to the Indian outlook of 
making broad-brush judgements
from tiny sampling; to paint NE women as immoral 
temptresses who are ruining the
morality of rich Dilliwallas?

You take your pick.

c-da











At 8:25 PM -0800 2/6/08, Mridul Bhuyan wrote:
Chan Da,
 
 The hard fact is, being in Delhi for about 14 years, I can't deny 
involvement of some of these folks in the prohibited practice. 
However, it is gross to generalise all North Easterners for the 
deeds of a very few of them. Besides, I don't think there's any 
customer involved as they use all for their own consumption.
 
 But, I agree, it is hightime some steps are taken to let the 
Delhites know that most of the North Easterners are more civilised 
than others.
 
 Rgds
 Mridul

Chan Mahanta wrote:
 Surprisingly no one seems to be interested in knowing down WHO the
CUSTOMERS of these immoral NE folks are.















At 2:56 PM -0600 2/5/08, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
Hi Ankur,

This is just terrible (once again the NE being portrayed in bad light).

It seems that every time something like this happens, we all get upset and
want to set the record straight. While this is a good reaction, I am not
sure how many times and how long we can keep this up.

 IMHO, we would need to tackle (or head off) such misinformation/perception
for the long run.

A few suggestions, for what they are worth:
1. Assamese in Delhi/Mumbai or other places take active part in letting
others know what the NE is truly made up of, its culture, languages and
lastly of course its people.

2. Engage in writing positive articles in national newspapers and magazines
about the culture/language/people

3.Involve the national media every chance we get when celebrating Bihu or
other cultural events/plays in other places.

When I travel to other places in India, many people are still not very clear
about the NE. What little they read or hear is usually negative. My
suggestion is to make an all out effort in changing that perception.

The NE has much to offer to the rest of India, the likes of Vikram Kumar et
al should take it upon themselves to at the very least visit the NE and
experience its hospitality.

--Ram da


On 2/5/08, Ankur Bora wrote:

 HON'BLE MR. JUSTICE GANENDRA NARAYAN RAY





http://mailtoday.in/showstory.aspx?queryed=9querypage=4boxid=275671144parentid=2129eddate=Jan%2028%202008%2012:00AM

 Dear Sir ,

 This is regarding the above mentined url published in Mail Today e-paper
 by Vikram Kumar. In this article , Mr. Kumar has spread misinformation on
 the people of a paricular region of India i.e North East. In fact in his
 article Mr. Kumar branded the girls of North easter region residing in and
 around Delhi as drug peddlars. This type of article is non only causing
  misinformation on a region but also endangering the lives of of 
students and
 professionals of North East residing in Delhi. We often come across news of
 violence against girls and women of NE region and publication of this type
 of article will cause more harm. I request your action on the newspaper (
 Mail Today) and the reporter Vikram Kumar on this article. I 
would also like
  to let you know there is no contact information on the News paper website
 and as such I am mailing directly for your attenion.

 I also request K. Sachidananda Murthy of Malayala Manorama , Geetartha
 Pathak of AssamBani , Abhay Chhajlani of Nai Dunia Parisar and Sanjoh
 Hazarika to raise this issue at the appropriate forum.

 Yours Sincerely

 Ankur Bora
 Austin , Texas

 The content of the newpaper

Re: [Assam] on a biased report against people of Noth East

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Chan Da,
   
  The hard fact is, being in Delhi for about 14 years, I can't deny involvement 
of some of these folks in the prohibited practice. However, it is gross to 
generalise all North Easterners for the deeds of a very few of them. Besides, I 
don't think there's any customer involved as they use all for their own 
consumption.
   
  But, I agree, it is hightime some steps are taken to let the Delhites know 
that most of the North Easterners are more civilised than others.
   
  Rgds
  Mridul

Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Surprisingly no one seems to be interested in knowing down WHO the 
CUSTOMERS of these immoral NE folks are.















At 2:56 PM -0600 2/5/08, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
Hi Ankur,

This is just terrible (once again the NE being portrayed in bad light).

It seems that every time something like this happens, we all get upset and
want to set the record straight. While this is a good reaction, I am not
sure how many times and how long we can keep this up.

 IMHO, we would need to tackle (or head off) such misinformation/perception
for the long run.

A few suggestions, for what they are worth:
1. Assamese in Delhi/Mumbai or other places take active part in letting
others know what the NE is truly made up of, its culture, languages and
lastly of course its people.

2. Engage in writing positive articles in national newspapers and magazines
about the culture/language/people

3.Involve the national media every chance we get when celebrating Bihu or
other cultural events/plays in other places.

When I travel to other places in India, many people are still not very clear
about the NE. What little they read or hear is usually negative. My
suggestion is to make an all out effort in changing that perception.

The NE has much to offer to the rest of India, the likes of Vikram Kumar et
al should take it upon themselves to at the very least visit the NE and
experience its hospitality.

--Ram da


On 2/5/08, Ankur Bora wrote:

 HON'BLE MR. JUSTICE GANENDRA NARAYAN RAY




 
http://mailtoday.in/showstory.aspx?queryed=9querypage=4boxid=275671144parentid=2129eddate=Jan%2028%202008%2012:00AM

 Dear Sir ,

 This is regarding the above mentined url published in Mail Today e-paper
 by Vikram Kumar. In this article , Mr. Kumar has spread misinformation on
 the people of a paricular region of India i.e North East. In fact in his
 article Mr. Kumar branded the girls of North easter region residing in and
 around Delhi as drug peddlars. This type of article is non only causing
 misinformation on a region but also endangering the lives of of students and
 professionals of North East residing in Delhi. We often come across news of
 violence against girls and women of NE region and publication of this type
 of article will cause more harm. I request your action on the newspaper (
 Mail Today) and the reporter Vikram Kumar on this article. I would also like
 to let you know there is no contact information on the News paper website
 and as such I am mailing directly for your attenion.

 I also request K. Sachidananda Murthy of Malayala Manorama , Geetartha
 Pathak of AssamBani , Abhay Chhajlani of Nai Dunia Parisar and Sanjoh
 Hazarika to raise this issue at the appropriate forum.

 Yours Sincerely

 Ankur Bora
 Austin , Texas

 The content of the newpaper article is attached below.


 Monday, January 28,
 2008 Druglords prey on N-E girls to act as
 peddlers
 By Kumar Vikram in New Delhi
 The next time a cocaine addict in Delhi orders for a fix,
 its unlikely that an African man will be standing at the door. Instead, itll
 probably be a young, trendy Northeast Indian girl. And for a few extra
 thousands, shell put sex on offer as well.
 This revelation about the illegal drug trade came to light last year,
 during the court hearing of a Nigerian peddler. A police officer said, Our
 investigating officers were surprised to find that many Northeastern girls
 would attend the hearing at the Patiala Court House. We decided to probe
 further. And the skeletons came tumbling out.
  Where the girls score over the men is that they can offer customers a
 combo-pack - sex and drugs. The nexus works like this: the client calls the
 peddler (usually African) for cocaine; the peddler gives the stuff to the
 girl; she delivers it to the designated place, which is usually a farmhouse
 or five-star hotel; and if the customer is willing and has the money, the
 girl throws in sex as an added offer.
 The clients are high-end and as a result, the girls earn much more than
 they would earlier, the officer said. Rates can vary from anything between
 Rs 25,000 and Rs 50,000 for a few hours of intoxication and intercourse.
 The genesis of the trend, say sources, lies in the Rahul Mahajan case. The
 arrest of two Nigerian nationals put the spotlight on their counterparts
 and, suddenly, African nationals roaming around in, say, a shopping complex
 were viewed with suspicion by even common people, let alone the police.
 There 

Re: [Assam] Nuisance or Nonsense

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Well, there have been lots of discussions lately regarding late Ashok Saikia. 
After his demise, I was one of them to send a message in the Assamnet 
condoloing his death. Considering very limited interactions with him, I still 
feel he was an IAS officer, whom the others should follow not only for the 
things he did in the capacity of being an IAS officer but also as a fellow 
human being. He was the Education Commissioner, when my father was serving in 
the Education Deptt. in Assam. What I gather from him, late Saikia was 
definitely different than other fellow IAS officers in his approach towards the 
works.
   
  While in Gurgaon, I had some interactions with him and from these 
interactions, I feel he was very honest towards his responsibilities towards 
Assam and during his heydays also, he had done whatever he could do towards the 
development of Assam.
   
  Whatever I had known about him, he atleast deserves some praise. Regarding 
Mr. Husseins oblique reference to Late Saikia, I don't see any reason for 
somebody to react or respond.
   
  Rgds
   
  Mridul Bhuyan

Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  You see Chandanda,I have once again established a mutual admiration camp by
way of agreeing with you.Insallah,it would flourish:-)


*** But I thought it was already there and flourishing, albeit 
quietly, without fan-fare and steeped in our usual, humility filled 
ways Kamal, wasn't it :-)?

Iti twmar,

so-kai










At 10:11 PM -0600 2/1/08, kamal deka wrote:
I agree.
The question as to why the rest of the tribe belonging to IAS cadre of
Oxom ( who are,hitherto,known as  glorified babus  ) should follow in late
Saikia's footsteps,is a pertinent one.
I don't see any compelling reason to create a mighty din over such a
piddling issue.
In what sense would one be in error if one flings in question as the one,
Mr.Ranju Hussein has raised ?
You see Chandanda,I have once again established a mutual admiration camp by
way of agreeing with you.Insallah,it would flourish:-)
KJD


On 2/1/08, Chan Mahanta wrote:

 I am writing ONLY because Hussein is being unfairly attacked, being
 ganged-up on by people. He has not in any way, shape or form created
 ANY nuisance . Nor has he in any way, shape or form, shown any
 disrespect to the late Saikia.

 He has merely questioned WHY his examples, whatever that may be,
 should be emulated by other Oxomiya IAS types.

 He would not have had any occasion to ask that question, had a
 recommendation to that effect not been made by somebody and probably
 seconded by others. I say probably, because I am not fully
 conversant with the origins of the issue, or what followed.

 Now CAN those who made the recommendation explain it or not? If not
 he/she/it can just say so, UNLESS he/she/it is mired in an
 infallibility complex and can't acknowledge his/her/its own
 intellectual shortcoming as exemplified by this controversy.

 But if there are good answers, he/she/it can lay it down and it would
 be the end of story and we will be better informed for it.

 None of the above has anything to do with the late Saikia, his
 abilities, his contributions to society or humanity or IASdom .
 Nobody here has QUESTIONED any of that. But as far as SERVICE to
 ASSAM is concerned, it IS a legitimate question, BECAUSE of the
 recommendation that was made by someone in this forum.

 And citing of Nam-Ghoxa wisdoms by Manoj , lovely as it is, has NO
 bearing on the matter. Claims of hurt feelings are attempts to
 obfuscate , pure and simple.

 Hussein's question was not a nuisance. And his opponents are
 indulging in nonsense.













 At 9:49 AM +0530 2/1/08, muktikam phukan wrote:
 Dear Hussain
 
 I'd reacted earlier also  reacting again becos u r definitely
 creating nuisance. Pl let Mr Saikia's soul rest in peace. U r
 hurting a lot of people. Even enemies do not bad words after one is
 dead. God knows what u r upto.
 
 
 Muktikam Phukan
 Deputy Director (NR)
 Petroleum Conservation Research Association
 Sanrakshan Bhawan,10, Bhikaiji Cama Place,New Delhi 110066
 Ph: +91 11 26198856 Ext 385, Mob: +91 9818598565
 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: ranjuhussein 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, 30 January, 2008 8:39:50 AM
 Subject: [asom] Ashok Saikia no more
 
 Madam,
 
 With due respect, I have asked questions to Sirs with names Himendra,
 Santikam, Rimzim, Vavani. I think these Sirs either do not like to
 reply or away from emails.
 
 I have some Idea what Non-Assamese IAS do in Assam. I thought it is
 good idea to know what Assamese IAS do/did in Assam.
 
 Ranju Hussein
 
 --- parulma deka 
wrote:
 
 I wish you will go after people like late Mr. Ashok Saikia when they
 are living and working outside Assam ! If you want to know about them
  and what they are doing or not doing, ask question about them. Maybe
 they will listen to you.
 
 --- ranjuhussein wrote:
 
 Vavani Sir and Himendra Sir,
 
 Sorry for being

Re: [Assam] The Nano not so nano stuff

[Mridul Bhuyan]

I am telling what I see in Newspapers. This stuff is out of my coverage. :)
   
  Rgds
   
  Mridul

Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Well, Mridul

Technically that would mean (I suppose) that India cannot operate flights in
a fog or even during poor visibility conditions at night to a great extent.

My guess is that for ILS both the runways and having trained pilots are
required. I think all major aircrafts are already equipped with ILS.

Each of the major airports have at least one runway for international
flights to land and take off during the night.

BTW, I did see a number of foreign pilots operating local Indian flights.
They must be trying to make up the shortage of trained ILS pilots.


On 1/13/08, Mridul Bhuyan wrote:

 They say all the airlines do not have trained pilots with CAT-III landing
 (don't know what this technically mean).

 Mridul

 Ram Sarangapani wrote:
 Ram

 That link to Delhi airport - its nothing like what we saw on Dec 27th (for
 a
 few hours) on the way to Guwahati.

 While we were picking up the baggage, I did make the customary trip to the
 restroom. They had Kohler fitting and were comparitively nicer.

 Btw: Does anyone know why Delhi always seems to a have a problem with
 flights in the winter fog? I thought they were all now equipped with ILS
 (Instrument Landing Systems).

 --Ram


 On 1/11/08, Ram Dhar wrote:
 
 
  Tell me what is not expensive these days in Indian Metros :-)
 
  Delhi prices have gone up as much as 40% in 5 star hotels in the last 2
  years . Bcoz of room shortages and high prices I read recently many
  international tour operators are now bypassig Delhi and Bombay .
 Rajasthan,
  Kerala, Goa are popular for the tour operators .
 
  Approx 30,000 additional hotel rooms will be required in the city of
  Delhi and the NCR to meet the requirement of Commonwealth Games 2010.
 Read
  it in newspapers that 5 years tax holiday for budget and luxury hotels
  announced to promote investment in hotel sector.
 
 
  In calcutta if u book ahead of time , oberoi grand /Taj Bengal rooms can
  be booked for 145 - 170 dollars/nite. Both very good hotels. Food and
  service in both Taj Bengal /Oberoi ..simply superb ! Peerless Inn near
  oberoi hotel is also pretty reaonable and good. It was around Rs
 3000/nite
  few years back.They have a great restaurant, Aheli ...bengali thali
 there
  is out of the world !! Location is also great as one can just walk
 around
  there do all the shopping in maidan area.
 
  Calcutta International airport - it's in a bad shape ...do u know there
  are two unions among porters there one backed by red brigade and one
 by
  Mamatas ...so lets stop the discussion here .only place you will
 get
  hot tea/coffee after late nite arrival is Jyoti Basus house in saltlake
  ...coz the coffee shops and restaurant are all closed between 10 pm and
 6 AM
  (atleast last time I was there in 2006) !
 
  Lets hope Intl/domestic airports in Delhi-Bombay (facelift and
 additional
  runways et al) are completed per schedule by 2010 ...it's an eye sore
 and
  torture to go to these airports -- two classic examples of INDIA
 GROWING
  BUT NOT SHOWING.
 
  Something really good happening to Bl're atlast, see the status , photos
  of the new Bangalore airport :
 
 
 
 http://www.bialairport.com/project_pictures.htm?cid=leftnavigationses=bial
 
 
  $US 1.3 Billion being spent for Delhi Airport upgrade -
 
 
  http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1171837303.html
 
  work progress status -
 
  http://www.newdelhiairport.in/
 
 
 
 
 
   Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:09:29 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
  assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] The Nano  not so nano stuff 
  Just a few points.  The Airport Hotel in Kolkata is under contruction.
 We
  did get to stay in the Senator (Camay street). Pretty good. Rs7500
 +luxury
  tax. Airport pickup/drop is about 1600.  The biggest hotel scams are
 in
  Delhi though. Last year we stayed at the the JP Vasan International
 (near
  the airport). They charge about 13,000 + lux. tax. For that price, one
  would expect a great room. The room was ok - nothing to write home
 about.
  The hotel has a great foyer, great complementary breakfast though.  A
  great hotel for its price was the Swagatham Beach Hotel in Kovalam. We
 got
  a suite with a balcony overlooking the sea for 4500 per night. B'fast
  complementary.  I find that hotels in Delhi/Mumbai are simply
 overrated
  and over priced.  --Ram On 1/11/08, Chan Mahanta 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, how about comparing the
 Star
  hotels ... the  hotel in Orlando (HOJO) is a 2 star hotel as rated
 by 
  AAA  How about it?   Should that define the general
  standard of hotels and motels across  the USA? Incidentally HOJO is
 owned
  by desis if I am not mistaken.  That might explain it :-). BTW, did
 you
  report it to AAA? It does  make a difference. Once I was getting the
  run-around on the published  sale price and what I

Re: [Assam] The Nano not so nano stuff.

[Mridul Bhuyan]

They say all the airlines do not have trained pilots with CAT-III landing 
(don't know what this technically mean).
   
  Mridul

Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Ram

That link to Delhi airport - its nothing like what we saw on Dec 27th (for a
few hours) on the way to Guwahati.

While we were picking up the baggage, I did make the customary trip to the
restroom. They had Kohler fitting and were comparitively nicer.

Btw: Does anyone know why Delhi always seems to a have a problem with
flights in the winter fog? I thought they were all now equipped with ILS
(Instrument Landing Systems).

--Ram


On 1/11/08, Ram Dhar wrote:


 Tell me what is not expensive these days in Indian Metros :-)

 Delhi prices have gone up as much as 40% in 5 star hotels in the last 2
 years . Bcoz of room shortages and high prices I read recently many
 international tour operators are now bypassig Delhi and Bombay . Rajasthan,
 Kerala, Goa are popular for the tour operators .

 Approx 30,000 additional hotel rooms will be required in the city of
 Delhi and the NCR to meet the requirement of Commonwealth Games 2010. Read
 it in newspapers that 5 years tax holiday for budget and luxury hotels
 announced to promote investment in hotel sector.


 In calcutta if u book ahead of time , oberoi grand /Taj Bengal rooms can
 be booked for 145 - 170 dollars/nite. Both very good hotels. Food and
 service in both Taj Bengal /Oberoi ..simply superb ! Peerless Inn near
 oberoi hotel is also pretty reaonable and good. It was around Rs 3000/nite
 few years back.They have a great restaurant, Aheli ...bengali thali there
 is out of the world !! Location is also great as one can just walk around
 there do all the shopping in maidan area.

 Calcutta International airport - it's in a bad shape ...do u know there
 are two unions among porters there one backed by red brigade and one by
 Mamatas ...so lets stop the discussion here .only place you will get
 hot tea/coffee after late nite arrival is Jyoti Basus house in saltlake
 ...coz the coffee shops and restaurant are all closed between 10 pm and 6 AM
 (atleast last time I was there in 2006) !

 Lets hope Intl/domestic airports in Delhi-Bombay (facelift and additional
 runways et al) are completed per schedule by 2010 ...it's an eye sore and
 torture to go to these airports -- two classic examples of INDIA GROWING
 BUT NOT SHOWING.

 Something really good happening to Bl're atlast, see the status , photos
 of the new Bangalore airport :


 http://www.bialairport.com/project_pictures.htm?cid=leftnavigationses=bial


 $US 1.3 Billion being spent for Delhi Airport upgrade -


 http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1171837303.html

 work progress status -

 http://www.newdelhiairport.in/





  Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:09:29 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
 assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] The Nano  not so nano stuff 
 Just a few points.  The Airport Hotel in Kolkata is under contruction. We
 did get to stay in the Senator (Camay street). Pretty good. Rs7500 +luxury
 tax. Airport pickup/drop is about 1600.  The biggest hotel scams are in
 Delhi though. Last year we stayed at the the JP Vasan International (near
 the airport). They charge about 13,000 + lux. tax. For that price, one
 would expect a great room. The room was ok - nothing to write home about.
 The hotel has a great foyer, great complementary breakfast though.  A
 great hotel for its price was the Swagatham Beach Hotel in Kovalam. We got
 a suite with a balcony overlooking the sea for 4500 per night. B'fast
 complementary.  I find that hotels in Delhi/Mumbai are simply overrated
 and over priced.  --Ram On 1/11/08, Chan Mahanta 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, how about comparing the Star
 hotels ... the  hotel in Orlando (HOJO) is a 2 star hotel as rated by 
 AAA  How about it?   Should that define the general
 standard of hotels and motels across  the USA? Incidentally HOJO is owned
 by desis if I am not mistaken.  That might explain it :-). BTW, did you
 report it to AAA? It does  make a difference. Once I was getting the
 run-around on the published  sale price and what I was being charged for a
 room at a national  chain rated by AAA. I paid but told the hotel clerk
 that I am going  straight to AAA about it. Shortly thereafter I got a call
 in my  room, with apologies, and a refund.   I won't try to compare
 the US quality of motels and hotels with  Indian ones. It will not be fair
 to do so. But when an Indian hotel  charges prices like US hotels, you
 would expect it , at the very  least, to have similar amenities, even
 though it could reasonably be  argued that that they ought to be much
 better, considering what that  amount of Rupees can buy in the local
 marketplace.   At 8:07 AM -0800 1/11/08,
 Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote:  The question of comparision does not arise
 because you  DO NOT find a $30 hotel in major US city that too near 
 airport. To compare you will first need to 

Re: [Assam] ShantikAM Hazarika here/ Deep condolence

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Dear Sir,
   
  May the departed soul rest in peace. My sincere condolances to the bereaved 
family.
   
  Regards
   
  Mridul

Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Dear Hazarika,

Please accept our sincere condolences. Our prayers are with you.

Ram  Alpana Sarangapani


On 1/9/08, DR BIKASH KUMAR DAS wrote:

 Respected Dada,
 Our deepest Condolence to you all.May the departed soul get ever peace
 with the Almighty.

 Our prayer.

 Bikash  Family at Bangalore

 Shantikam Hazarika wrote:
 My father, Arun Hazarika, died at 8.30 PM on the 9th. He was
 93.

 Shantikam Hazarika



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[Assam] Ashok Saikia no more

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Mr. Ashok Saikia, a retired IAS officer from Assam is no more. He Expired 
at about 4:30 AM in the morning of 30/12/2007 at Escorts.
   
  I went to his place to meet his wife on 30th. He was only having slight pain 
in the shoulder, on further examination, he was diagnosed to have a block in 
one of the arteries. He was rushed to Escorts and operated upon. After the 
operation, blood loss was very severe and an Expert from AIIMS was called in. 
However, due to procedural problems in Escorts of being re-operated by an 
expert from AIIMS, he could be reoperated very late and he breathed his last at 
about 04:30 AM in the morning.
   
  Felt very sorry about his death. He was one of the few bureaucrates, who rose 
above the ranks and a very popular man. May his soul rest in peace.
   
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Re: [Assam] Congratulations to Utpal Borpujari

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Congrates. That's really praiseworthy. Keep it up.
   
  Mridul Bhuyan

Manoj Das [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Wow..we are proud of you and let me share the news with our community.

Do a good job!

On Nov 8, 2007 9:56 AM, Utpal Borpujari wrote:


 Two good news to share with you:



 I have been selected to the Critics Jury of Mumbai International Film
 Festival for Short and Documentary Films (MIFF), to be held February 3-9.
 The festival is organized by the Films Division every two years, and is
 considered one of the most prominent festivals for short  documentary films
 in Asia.

 I have been invited by the French Government to the Festival du 3 Continents
 (Festival of Three Continents) Film Festival at Nantes in Southern France
 because of my writings on Indian and world cinema.

 
 Moreover, I am also editing the festival brochure (where details of all
 films are given) for the 38th International Film Festival of India (IFFI) to
 be held in Goa from November 23 to December 3. This is the fourth time I am
 editing it (earlier, I did it in 2003, 04 and 05).


 Utpal



Raiz

Pl join me in congratulating Utpal on his achievements. Just to remind
you again- He won National Film Critic Award in 2005. Utpal is a
trained geologist from IIT, Roorkee. He abandoned his geologist career
for his first love 'journalism'.

We expect many more laurels for him.

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Re: [Assam] [NorthEastIndia] Mukesh Ambani - richest person in the world

[Mridul Bhuyan]

'Charity?' What's that? I am not sure if he has ever heard that word.:)
   
  Mridul

Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let us also not forget that both Bill Gates/Melinda Gates  Warren Buffett 
have given a big portion of their wealth to numerous charities.
   
  Could that be the big reason that their net worth is not as high as one would 
have expected?
   
  Wonder how much Ambani or Slim have done for charity? May be they have, but I 
think the Gates' and Buffett have done more than their fair share, and are 
certainly have a much higher networth (at least in my mind):) 
   
  IMHO: In the end that's what counts.
   
  

 
  On 10/29/07, Manoj Das [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Mukesh Ambani is world's 
richest man

Press Trust of India / Mumbai October 29, 2007

Billionaire Mukesh Ambani today became the richest person in the 
world, surpassing American software czar Bill Gates, Mexican business
tycoon Carlos Slim Helu and famous investment guru Warren Buffett,
courtesy the bull run in the stock market.

Following a strong share price rally on in his three group companies, 
India's most valued firm Reliance Industries, Reliance Petroleum and
Reliance Industrial Infrastructure, the net worth of Mukesh Ambani
rose to $63.2 billion (Rs 2,49,108 crore).

In comparison, the net worth of both Gates and Slim is estimated to be 
slightly lower at around $62.29 billion each, with Slim leading among
the two by a narrow margin.

The five richest people in the world with their net worth

1. Mukesh Ambani ($63.2 billion)

2. Carlos Slim Helu ($62.2993 billion) 

3. William (Bill) Gates ($62.29 billion)

4. Warren Buffett ($55.9 billion)

5. Lakshmi Mittal ($50.9 billi

On Oct 30, 2007 9:13 AM, Alpana B. Sarangapani
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Also worth mentioning here are the stories about the (child) domestic help
 that we get in India who gets to wear just



 a pair of Howaii sandal and washing dishes in 'puh-mohiya jaar', when our 
 own children are wearing warm socks and shoes and studying.









  For the material, at best, is only temporal, or temporary, while that 
 which may be builded from spiritual desire, spiritual purposes, is eternal.
 - Edgar Cayce Reading 1971-1.




  In order to make spiritual progress you must be patient like a tree and 
 humble like a blade of grass

 - Lakshmana








  
  Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:47:17 -0700 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: assam@assamnet.org
 Subject: Re: [Assam] [NorthEastIndia] Mukesh Ambani - richest person in the
 world




 Along with Ambani's  Richness , Ironically the following new is also 
 headlined prominently today.

 Indian 'slave' children found making low-cost clothes destined for Gap

 Child workers, some as young as 10, have been found working in a textile 
 factory in conditions close to slavery to produce clothes that appear
 destined for Gap Kids, one of the most successful arms of the high street
 giant.
 Speaking to The Observer, the children described long hours of unwaged work, 
 as well as threats and beatings.
 The discovery of the children working in filthy conditions in the Shahpur
 Jat area of Delhi has renewed concerns about the outsourcing by large retail
 chains of their garment production to India, recognised by the United 
 Nations as the world's capital for child labour.

 Partha Gogoi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







 a report on the Indian stock market..

 http://www.rediff.com/money/2007/oct/29mukesh1.htm


 QUOTE
 Billionaire Mukesh Ambani on Monday became the richest person in the world, 
 surpassing American software czar Bill Gates, Mexican business tycoon Carlos
 Slim Helu and famous investment guru Warren Buffett, courtesy the bull run
 in the stock market.
 Following a strong share price rally today in his three group companies - 
 India's most valued firm Reliance Industries [Get Quote], Reliance Petroleum
 [Get Quote] and Reliance Industrial Infrastructure Ltd [Get Quote] - the net
 worth of Mukesh Ambani rose to $63.2 billion (Rs 2,49,108 crore).  
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Re: [Assam] [NorthEastIndia] Mukesh Ambani - richest person in the world

[Mridul Bhuyan]

'Charity?' What's that? I am not sure if he has ever heard that word.:)
   
  Mridul

Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let us also not forget that both Bill Gates/Melinda Gates  Warren Buffett 
have given a big portion of their wealth to numerous charities.
   
  Could that be the big reason that their net worth is not as high as one would 
have expected?
   
  Wonder how much Ambani or Slim have done for charity? May be they have, but I 
think the Gates' and Buffett have done more than their fair share, and are 
certainly have a much higher networth (at least in my mind):) 
   
  IMHO: In the end that's what counts.
   
  

 
  On 10/29/07, Manoj Das [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Mukesh Ambani is world's 
richest man

Press Trust of India / Mumbai October 29, 2007

Billionaire Mukesh Ambani today became the richest person in the 
world, surpassing American software czar Bill Gates, Mexican business
tycoon Carlos Slim Helu and famous investment guru Warren Buffett,
courtesy the bull run in the stock market.

Following a strong share price rally on in his three group companies, 
India's most valued firm Reliance Industries, Reliance Petroleum and
Reliance Industrial Infrastructure, the net worth of Mukesh Ambani
rose to $63.2 billion (Rs 2,49,108 crore).

In comparison, the net worth of both Gates and Slim is estimated to be 
slightly lower at around $62.29 billion each, with Slim leading among
the two by a narrow margin.

The five richest people in the world with their net worth

1. Mukesh Ambani ($63.2 billion)

2. Carlos Slim Helu ($62.2993 billion) 

3. William (Bill) Gates ($62.29 billion)

4. Warren Buffett ($55.9 billion)

5. Lakshmi Mittal ($50.9 billi

On Oct 30, 2007 9:13 AM, Alpana B. Sarangapani
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Also worth mentioning here are the stories about the (child) domestic help
 that we get in India who gets to wear just



 a pair of Howaii sandal and washing dishes in 'puh-mohiya jaar', when our 
 own children are wearing warm socks and shoes and studying.









  For the material, at best, is only temporal, or temporary, while that 
 which may be builded from spiritual desire, spiritual purposes, is eternal.
 - Edgar Cayce Reading 1971-1.




  In order to make spiritual progress you must be patient like a tree and 
 humble like a blade of grass

 - Lakshmana








  
  Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:47:17 -0700 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: assam@assamnet.org
 Subject: Re: [Assam] [NorthEastIndia] Mukesh Ambani - richest person in the
 world




 Along with Ambani's  Richness , Ironically the following new is also 
 headlined prominently today.

 Indian 'slave' children found making low-cost clothes destined for Gap

 Child workers, some as young as 10, have been found working in a textile 
 factory in conditions close to slavery to produce clothes that appear
 destined for Gap Kids, one of the most successful arms of the high street
 giant.
 Speaking to The Observer, the children described long hours of unwaged work, 
 as well as threats and beatings.
 The discovery of the children working in filthy conditions in the Shahpur
 Jat area of Delhi has renewed concerns about the outsourcing by large retail
 chains of their garment production to India, recognised by the United 
 Nations as the world's capital for child labour.

 Partha Gogoi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







 a report on the Indian stock market..

 http://www.rediff.com/money/2007/oct/29mukesh1.htm


 QUOTE
 Billionaire Mukesh Ambani on Monday became the richest person in the world, 
 surpassing American software czar Bill Gates, Mexican business tycoon Carlos
 Slim Helu and famous investment guru Warren Buffett, courtesy the bull run
 in the stock market.
 Following a strong share price rally today in his three group companies - 
 India's most valued firm Reliance Industries [Get Quote], Reliance Petroleum
 [Get Quote] and Reliance Industrial Infrastructure Ltd [Get Quote] - the net
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Re: [Assam] A stepdown transformer

[Mridul Bhuyan]

This must be by one of the 'i-know-all' type of journalist. a step-down 
transformer is always located where the consumption is. The only thing to be 
concerned is that the villages are dark for most part of the day and taking 
advantage, some elements decant the oil from the transformers and sale it. 
Can't blame them; atleast putting the transformers to some use.
   
  Rgds.
   
  Mridul Bhuyan

Dilip/Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I found this interesting. Why is the installation considered dangerous? A 
stepdown transformer has to be installed where the consumption is. There 
appears to be ample space around the transformer.
  Is it the fear of electricity that prompted the picture and the report?
  Dilip Deka
   
  From the Assam Tribune
   
   
A stepdown transformer installed in the heart of a thickly-populated area of 
Panpur in Jamugurihat may prove to be a cause of fatality any day. – Photo: 
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Re: [Assam] on plebisite

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Very well said.
   
  rgds
   
  Mridul Bhuyan

utpal borpujari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What Ruby Bhuyan has said in his/her mail (There are many who may not 
support  the ULFA, but, the most important thing is for all is to standby the 
people of Asom.  We would like to ask you not to support the views and actions 
of the selfish ones who are
just taking advantage of the situation. Instead, be with the majority and work 
for real peace to return to Asom.) is really, really very important. I hope 
when we are having any debate or discussion, we argue out our aims and 
motives in this spirit rather than trying to project views not matching those 
of ours in a negative light just to score a debating point.
   
  Utpal Borpujari

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Re: [Assam] reply to C Da who thinks i lost my voice.

[Mridul Bhuyan]

I thought this net is a gentlemen's forum. During my stint with this 'Assamnet' 
for the last 7/8 years, hardly I have found the use of such languages. Those 
who are in the technical field, having some links with Assam, know Sri Mukul 
Mahanta is regarded in the technical faternity. I have known him personally for 
atleast 2/3 years. I have never seen a more practical Assamese Engineer like 
him. He is professionally a father figure in the engineering history of Assam. 
Political view points differ from person to person. Even if he is nobody, using 
such abusive language doesn't show one in good light.
   
  Regards
   
  Mridul Bhuyan

biswajeet saikia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yesterday, Utpal borpujari told me about these two figures( cda amd Mda!). 
In my wild dream i never thought ULFA appointed such a ruscal as PCG member to 
negotiate future freedom of Assam.
  after knowing their background, i am bit confused whether shoudl I further 
discuss over these topics. I decided why not I should invite them for a open 
meeting in any place in Delhi which is their desire with full security 
assurance to speak about their point of argument infromt of media, academician 
and other people.
  If they agree to come I will arrange everything. Atleast I want to hear fools 
desire before coming to conclusion.
  Let see  and wait how these figures response!

Nayanjyoti Medhi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  hahahahahahahaha

  On 10/10/07, SANDIP DUTTA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, got the 
meaning now.
   
  So are you Assamese (I know you are writing Phukan but...)
   
  Rgds,
  sD

 
  - Original Message 
From: muktikam phukan  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world 
assam@assamnet.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 10:31:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] reply to C Da who thinks i lost my voice.

  Whats personal here -
   
  An Assamese eats Khar   So he is a kharkhowa
  A Bengali eats Xukan fish    So he is a drie dfish khowa
   
  

SANDIP DUTTA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I dont know you enough to get into personal attacks like you have done. 
If that was an attempt to make me mad, it was stupid to say the least. 
   
  But now its clear what culture YOU are coming from. Why not give up your plum 
PSU job and join the ranks of the shrill screaming mafia we have here? 
   
  Rgds,
  SD

 
  - Original Message 
From: muktikam phukan  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world 
assam@assamnet.org 
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:45:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] reply to C Da who thinks i lost my voice.

Why do people talk to this person SD as kharkhowa. He is a Dried fish Khowa 

SANDIP DUTTA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   And is it good or bad for  
Kharkhowas  speaking  like that? 
   
  Does it matter whether its good or bad? Why should a new dialect be bad? And 
yes, it is the language of the young crowd spoken by many across India. 
   
  Rgds,
  SD

 
  - Original Message 
From: Chan Mahanta  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world 
assam@assamnet.org 
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 3:13:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] reply to C Da who thinks i lost my voice.

  I still don't get it though. Does it mean  'they say '?



BTW, what is 'munnabhai hindi', is it some kind of cool talk, 
practised by the desi in-crowd ?

And is it good or bad for  Kharkhowas  speaking  like that? Does it 
signify an upward mobility, fitting in with those who matter?




At 10:05 AM -0700 10/9/07, SANDIP DUTTA wrote:
US BOLE TO...thats munnabhai hindi..you would have recognized it if 
you were familiar with the fact that now many Assamese speak it too. 

Rgds,
Sandip


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Re: [Assam] reply to C Da who thinks i lost my voice.

[Mridul Bhuyan]

That's a good point of view and well said too.
   
  Rgds
   
  Mridul Bhuyan

biswajeet saikia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am extremely sorry that out of my frustration, I have written such an 
abusive language to these gentlemen after hearing their point of argument for 
demanding freedom from Indian state. My point is very simple. We are not living 
in 1979, a closed under development cold war ridden economy. Presently we are a 
state where everything is opening up. The rationality of demand for 
independence becomes diluted over the time. In fact it is diluted across the 
world where globalisation reducing the concept of border and nationalism.
  In that very sense, if those member of PCG still arrogant over the one word 
issue, many have objection.
  i told in several times, I always emphasizes smaller state principles. if 
every community in north east receive a state within their respective majority 
areas, in my opinion it will definitely help to provide better economic 
development if economic issues control under a union.
   We have to think many alternate principles. As my information while many 
meetings in NSA of GOI, these PCG members not able to comprehend their 
arguments properly.
  So I would like to request them to do proper home work before presently their 
demand to elsewhere.
   
   


muktikam phukan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Very aptly put forth. In fact, I think Er M Mahanta introduced low cost 
hollow concrete structure houses in assam after coming back from USA.Late Shri 
Parag Das's residence is made with that tech.
   
  Regards
   
  M. Phukan

Mridul Bhuyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought this net is a gentlemen's forum. During my stint with this 
'Assamnet' for the last 7/8 years, hardly I have found the use of such 
languages. Those who are in the technical field, having some links with Assam, 
know Sri Mukul Mahanta is regarded in the technical faternity. I have known him 
personally for atleast 2/3 years. I have never seen a more practical Assamese 
Engineer like him. He is professionally a father figure in the engineering 
history of Assam. Political view points differ from person to person. Even if 
he is nobody, using such abusive language doesn't show one in good light.
   
  Regards
   
  Mridul Bhuyan

biswajeet saikia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yesterday, Utpal borpujari told me about these two figures( cda amd Mda!). 
In my wild dream i never thought ULFA appointed such a ruscal as PCG member to 
negotiate future freedom of Assam.
  after knowing their background, i am bit confused whether shoudl I further 
discuss over these topics. I decided why not I should invite them for a open 
meeting in any place in Delhi which is their desire with full security 
assurance to speak about their point of argument infromt of media, academician 
and other people.
  If they agree to come I will arrange everything. Atleast I want to hear fools 
desire before coming to conclusion.
  Let see  and wait how these figures response!

Nayanjyoti Medhi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  hahahahahahahaha

  On 10/10/07, SANDIP DUTTA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, got the 
meaning now.
   
  So are you Assamese (I know you are writing Phukan but...)
   
  Rgds,
  sD

 
  - Original Message 
From: muktikam phukan  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world 
assam@assamnet.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 10:31:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] reply to C Da who thinks i lost my voice.

  Whats personal here -
   
  An Assamese eats Khar   So he is a kharkhowa
  A Bengali eats Xukan fish    So he is a drie dfish khowa
   
  

SANDIP DUTTA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I dont know you enough to get into personal attacks like you have done. 
If that was an attempt to make me mad, it was stupid to say the least. 
   
  But now its clear what culture YOU are coming from. Why not give up your plum 
PSU job and join the ranks of the shrill screaming mafia we have here? 
   
  Rgds,
  SD

 
  - Original Message 
From: muktikam phukan  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world 
assam@assamnet.org 
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:45:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] reply to C Da who thinks i lost my voice.

Why do people talk to this person SD as kharkhowa. He is a Dried fish Khowa 

SANDIP DUTTA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   And is it good or bad for  
Kharkhowas  speaking  like that? 
   
  Does it matter whether its good or bad? Why should a new dialect be bad? And 
yes, it is the language of the young crowd spoken by many across India. 
   
  Rgds,
  SD

 
  - Original Message 
From: Chan Mahanta  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world 
assam@assamnet.org 
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 3:13:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] reply to C Da who thinks i lost my voice.

  I still don't get it though. Does

Re: [Assam] What a response!!

[Mridul Bhuyan]

There are many, who are real disappointed finding their apple cart, drawn by 
golden horses being upset by ULFA. They believe that they are better off in the 
golden era under GoI with the lavish life bestowed upon them, which is they 
think is due to them for their sheer intelligence. While serving the people in 
their heydays (in influencial posts), they never gave a damn about Assam or 
Assamese people but after retirement, those same people are standing tall as 
sole protector of Assam and Assamese people. Hope I am not hurting many.
   
  Regards
   
  Mridul Bhuyan
  
Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That I must leave to the imagination of Netters, A .
  

  I  am not certain who or how many listen to us, around the world.  And even 
if I did, I certainly won't be the one to gloat about the numbers . It is not 
the numbers that count in a forum like ours, it is the quality of the 
discourse. It ain't no desi-demokrasy here A, you know that, don't you :-)?
  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  At 3:04 PM -0500 10/8/07, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote:
  
I am sure that there are more than two who are for 'Sovereignity of 
Assam', but may not think it to be fruitful enough to engage in this debate  
   That is one of the most incisive perceptions I have seen in this net in 
a very long time, Mridul.  
Yes, there must be!
Pise` xonkhya-tu aangulir murot lekhib pora jaabo ne` baaru?
 
 
 
 


 
  In order to make spiritual progress you must be patient like a tree and 
humble like a blade of grass
  - Lakshmana
  
   
   


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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:23:58 -0500
To: assam@assamnet.org
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Assam] What a response!!

.ExternalClass blockquote, .ExternalClass dl, .ExternalClass ul, .ExternalClass 
ol, .ExternalClass li {padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;}   I am sure that there 
are more than two who are for 'Sovereignity of Assam', but may not think it to 
be fruitful enough to engage in this debate  
  
  
   That is one of the most incisive perceptions I have seen in this net in 
a very long time, Mridul.  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  At 2:40 AM -0700 10/8/07, Mridul Bhuyan wrote:
  Yes, it's a sad thing indeed. There's nothing personal involved in this 
debate. Everybody is free to express their opinion in good spirit. When things 
started to become personal it's no longer a debate. Contrary to what you said, 
I am sure that there are more than two who are for 'Sovereignity of Assam', but 
may not think it to be fruitful enough to engage in this debate, which very 
well starts roaming here and there instead of sticking to the subject.
  
   Regards
  
   Mridul Bhuyan

Dilip/Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Gentlemen,
  I am sorry to say that it is degenerating into personal attack. Is there a 
need to continue it?
  let's stop and count how many are arguing for Assam's sovereignty in this net 
and how many are against. I count two for (not counting Rubi Bhuyan),  and many 
against. What amazes me is how the big group that is against is allowing the 
two to rile them up. Is the big group trying to reach unanimity? Differences 
will always exist, and it is also a great quality to agree to disagree and move 
on.
  As for debating on  facts, It does not seem to stick, on this subject. It 
looks like a cat and mouse game.
  Is the debate worth the hurt feelings it is causing? I have my doubts. How 
about you?
  Dilip Deka
  ===
Shantikam Hazarika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Next time whenever any one has a query, the questioner would have to
qualify each question with the rationale behind each question. I think
I would give your argument to the Students' Union so that they can
agitate that in future, every question paper in examinations must have
a page explaining what the question setter had in mind while setting
the question.

Wah.When you have no answers to Uttam's questions, you first
insist what is the purpose without which you are not willing to
answer.

 But I' will give you one more chance to redeem yourself. We all make
 bad decisions every now and then. So, even though you have been
 evading the points I raised, you can correct yourself, and tell us,
 that Utpal's ploy was not a constructive one. A far better one would
 have been to engage in a sincere DIALOGUE, of give and take; ask,
 answer and vice-versa.

I have much more important and better things to do than to redeem
myself before you. Our purpose was a DIALOGUE, and that too of the
sincere variety and the best way we could have started was by  seeking 
answers to questions that are plaguing the minds of most
educated, middle class Assamese people. You took the
responsibility of holding the fort on their behalf while, as it seems,
they have scooted, leaving you to hold the baby. Well, you deserve our
pity, which we extend in unbound lots.

Its not that we did not get all

Re: [Assam] What a response!!

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Yes, it's a sad thing indeed. There's nothing personal involved in this debate. 
Everybody is free to express their opinion in good spirit. When things started 
to become personal it's no longer a debate. Contrary to what you said, I am 
sure that there are more than two who are for 'Sovereignity of Assam', but may 
not think it to be fruitful enough to engage in this debate, which very well 
starts roaming here and there instead of sticking to the subject.
   
  Regards
   
  Mridul Bhuyan

Dilip/Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gentlemen,
  I am sorry to say that it is degenerating into personal attack. Is there a 
need to continue it? 
  let's stop and count how many are arguing for Assam's sovereignty in this net 
and how many are against. I count two for (not counting Rubi Bhuyan),  and many 
against. What amazes me is how the big group that is against is allowing the 
two to rile them up. Is the big group trying to reach unanimity? Differences 
will always exist, and it is also a great quality to agree to disagree and move 
on.
  As for debating on  facts, It does not seem to stick, on this subject. It 
looks like a cat and mouse game.
  Is the debate worth the hurt feelings it is causing? I have my doubts. How 
about you?
  Dilip Deka
  ===
Shantikam Hazarika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Next time whenever any one has a query, the questioner would have to
qualify each question with the rationale behind each question. I think
I would give your argument to the Students' Union so that they can
agitate that in future, every question paper in examinations must have
a page explaining what the question setter had in mind while setting
the question.

Wah.When you have no answers to Uttam's questions, you first
insist what is the purpose without which you are not willing to
answer.

 But I' will give you one more chance to redeem yourself. We all make
 bad decisions every now and then. So, even though you have been
 evading the points I raised, you can correct yourself, and tell us,
 that Utpal's ploy was not a constructive one. A far better one would
 have been to engage in a sincere DIALOGUE, of give and take; ask,
 answer and vice-versa.

I have much more important and better things to do than to redeem
myself before you. Our purpose was a DIALOGUE, and that too of the
sincere variety and the best way we could have started was by
seeking answers to questions that are plaguing the minds of most
educated, middle class Assamese people. You took the
responsibility of holding the fort on their behalf while, as it seems,
they have scooted, leaving you to hold the baby. Well, you deserve our
pity, which we extend in unbound lots.

Its not that we did not get all the answers. One we got right from the
horse's mouth was the boundary of the Independent Assam, where
curiously Bangladesh did not feature. Is it because the Independent
Assam you are extolling would be a part of Bangladesh, so how does it
matter?

Second answer YOU gave was that the purpose behind all the mayhem,
disturbance of peace, killing of innocent daily labourers, is to
liberate Assam..obviously from the poor people who are being
regularly killed, or to liberate Assam from peace and tranquility in
which case it may be difficult to sustain the comfort zones in which
the leaders (and their cohorts) are dwelling?

Lot of netters have patience, I being sixty, do not have it. Also, time.

Shantikam hazarika



On 10/5/07, Chan Mahanta wrote:
 Dear Hazarika:


 I am sorry that you , a well educated man, a pillar of your society,
 is unable to deal with a very simple
 issue:

 *** Why can't Utpal or yourself, or anybody else, are able
 to tell us what objective they had?
 Why can't you admit the truth with the COURAGE of your convictions?

 Not that it is a secret. Anyone with half a working brain can
 see right thru it. And if it was not
 so, and had a more honorable objective, you and a bunch of
 others here in this forum
 would have come out baying for my blood, for having the
 temerity to doubt the
 inquisitors' integrity. They have NOT, only because they can't.


 And if you all had a good explanation, you would have come
 out swinging, telling the world
 how wrong I am in suggesting that a reasonable person could
 have concluded that Utpal's
 AIM was not solely for proving ULFA wrong and devalue their
 goals, and that they had
 no intention of engaging in a DIALOGUE, just an inquisition.


 But I' will give you one more chance to redeem yourself. We all make
 bad decisions every now and then. So, even though you have been
 evading the points I raised, you can correct yourself, and tell us,
 that Utpal's ploy was not a constructive one. A far better one would
 have been to engage in a sincere DIALOGUE, of give and take; ask,
 answer and vice-versa.

 The choice is yours.

 Best regards.

 m

 PS: I take all your accusations, wild and sad as they are, in good
 humor, and hold absolutely

Re: [Assam] Burmese cause

[Mridul Bhuyan]

What you miss Ram is that INSURGENTS are PEOPLE, who are driven to armed 
uprising, in the pursuit of POLITICAL RIGHTS, which they are deprived of.
  

  In a real, functioning democracy, run by people who BELIEVE in it, not merely 
wave as a facade at those whose approval they so seek, there would have been 
ways to find a peaceful solution to such disaffections.
  

  That India has remained buried in its  effort to squelch these voices 
militarily for over half a century, annihilating hundreds of thousands of what 
it calls their very OWN people , and now with connivance of a brutal military 
dictatorship in Burma,  points to its  fake commitments to real democratic 
values and its intelligentsia's cluelessness and absence from its governance.
   
  I wholeheartedly support the underlined statement. We all should understand 
that they are our brothers and sisters. Even if they have committed some 
mistakes, the onus is on us to advise them to amend their ways and try to find 
a suitable solution agrreable to all (even if it is a arduous task). Admit it 
or not, GoI did never give a damn about what happens to the people of Assam and 
will never do that in future too.
   
  Mridul Bhuyan 


Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:What you miss Ram is that 
INSURGENTS are PEOPLE, who are driven to armed uprising, in the pursuit of 
POLITICAL RIGHTS, which they are deprived of.
  

  In a real, functioning democracy, run by people who BELIEVE in it, not merely 
wave as a facade at those whose approval they so seek, there would have been 
ways to find a peaceful solution to such disaffections.
  

  That India has remained buried in its  effort to squelch these voices 
militarily for over half a century, annihilating hundreds of thousands of what 
it calls their very OWN people , and now with connivance of a brutal military 
dictatorship in Burma,  points to its  fake commitments to real democratic 
values and its intelligentsia's cluelessness and absence from its governance.
  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  At 10:07 AM -0600 10/4/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
   A! The use of language to deny the humanity of 'insurgents' , as if 
 they are NOT people.  Not Nagas, not Shans, not Manipuris,  not 
Oxomiyas---they are just INSURGENTS and so fair game. C'da, I doubt if 
any sane government will just allow insurgents to do what they please - hole up 
in neighboring countries and blow up their citizens. To that end, India is 
frequently reminded of  the humanity that insurgents frequently dole out to 
Indian citizens in Assam, Manipur etc. You tout the  'just cause' on behalf 
of insurgents, of their sacrifices, their aspirations etc.  Fair enough. 
Similarly, India and Indians also think that their cause is just, and that the 
Indian democracy (at least thats what they think - even if you disagree) is 
being hijacked, its citizens killed, and  insurgents are causing a reign of 
terror among common citizens in Assam That is why, whatever the 
causes/aspirations are, in the end, peace is what both sides need to aspire
 for.  If peace is not on the table nothing else matters. --Ram
10/4/07, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  He is upset that the GOI would reach across the border to seek the help of 
Burma/Bhutan with the insurgency problem.  
   
   
    A! The use of language to deny the humanity of 'insurgents' , as if 
they are NOT people.  Not Nagas, not Shans, not Manipuris, not Oxomiyas---they 
are just INSURGENTS and so fair game.  
   
   
   That is what desi-demokray obviously stands for and is defended so 
staunchly, uncritically by its devotees.  And my pointing it out causes the 
discomfiture it does.  
   Again, small wonder why desi-demokrasy's quality remains in the dismal 
condition it does, and gets worse by the day.  
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   At 8:50 AM -0600 10/4/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
  This is probably the reason why Sri Ram Sarangapani did not understand the 
dig if any.

   Oh!. I understood the dig alright (I've known C'da for many years now:)).
  
   But what he fails to undersatand is that the GOI may on the one hand seek 
help from the military Junta with a couple of goals in mind ( (a) to flush 
insurgents and (b) to curtail drug trafficking into India from Burma ) and on 
the other hand condemn the Burmese Govt. for its attrocities on the monks.
  
   Is this hypocritical on the part of the GOI? Obviously, the GOI does not 
think the peaceful protesting monks are the same as militant insurgents.
  
   And I understand this has struck a 'raw nerve' in C'da. He is upset that the 
GOI would reach across the border to seek the help of Burma/Bhutan with the 
insurgency problem.
  
   --Ram

 
  On 10/4/07, uttam borthakur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  People of India may demand that its Govt should exert its influence over the 
Myanmar Junta so that it does not resort to repression

Re: [Assam] Fw: World's Ignorance About Assam:

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Inner line permits are required for Indian as well as Foreign national for 
visiting Arunachal Pradesh. For Nagaland, as far as I know it's not required. 
For Manipur  Mizoram, I am not aware.
   
  Mridul Bhuyan

Sanjib Baruah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
For Arunachal Pradesh, Nagaland, Mizoram and Manipur foreigners need 
restricted areas permits in addition to their Indian visas. See:

http://www.immigrationindia.nic.in/FAQ_Restricted_Area.htm

It is usually not difficult for a group of four to get it (probably not to 
Manipur) perhaps because the government thinks such a large group is 
likely to be a tourists and not academics, journalists etc who might write 
about 
the situation in the region.

Indians need Inner Line permits for Arunachal Pradesh, Mizoram and 
Nagaland. They are issued by the Resident Commissioners of those states in 
New Delhi, Deputy Commissioners, Liason Officers in places like Guwahati 
and Shillong.

But research visas (they are usually for long stays with research as the 
explicit reason) are almost never given to study the Northeast. Thus most 
major academic work by foreigners on the region was done before 
Independence.


SB



On Mon, 24 Sep 2007, Ram Sarangapani wrote:

 I don't think Indian nationals need a permit (inner line) for Assam. I have
 heard its true of Arunachal Pradesh  maybe Nagaland.

 Visas are for foreigners with the exception of Bangladeshis, ISI agents and
 Bangladesh Intelligence (oxymoronic:)). They are free to come and go as they
 like.
 With that in mind, I am not sure how it would be an advantage for ULFA on
 this count. Inner line or not, visa or not, it may only be meant to keep
 genuine visitors away - at least discourage them.:)

 BTW: I just checked both the Ministry of External Affairs and the Home
 Ministry (GOI) web pages. There is no mention of inner line permits for the
 NE states. Is the inner line a State issue (and not central)?

 --Ram



 On 9/24/07, Rajen  Ajanta Barua wrote:

 Yes, and that is one additional strong point against GOI for ULFA and
 others to justify a separate state for the Seven Sisters.
 GOI does not know how to manage.
 What do you say?
 Rajenda


 - Original Message -
 *From:* umesh sharma 
 *To:* barua25 ; assam@assamnet.org
 *Sent:* Sunday, September 23, 2007 1:23 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [Assam] Fw: World's Ignorance About Assam:


 Rajen-da,

 You are right but also the current govt rules act against tourists. You
 need a visa (inner line permit ) to enter the Seven Sisters even though you
 may be from other parts of India ---so who would like to just take a trip to
 Assam unless they get opportunity to travel throughout NE India (Seven
 SIsters) without additional red tape.

 Umesh

 *barua25 * wrote:

 *World's Ignorance About Assam:*

 Looks like there is no limit to the world's ignorance about Assam and the
 North East India. I think we discussed the book last year in the net. This
 book is another example where the entire North East India has been skipped
 from India (may be to the delight of the insurgents).

 India Unveiled (Hardcover)
 by Robert Arnett(Author

 A highly acclaimed mostly colorful book with high editorial reviews:

 As promised, I put the following review (See full reviews in Amazon.com)
 for readers to know the weakness of the book:

 *Not Real India, Not Whole India:*
 I was very disappointed in the otherwise colorful book because it did not
 address the real India nor it shows the whole India. In fact without
 discussing substance, the book has left out the entrire North East India
 comprising the seven states, namely the states of Assam, Arunachal Pradesh,
 Nagaland, Manipur, Meghalaya, Mizoram  Tripura, the so called the Seven
 Sisters which is physically the most beautiful and culturally most colorful
 part of India. So I would suggest that when Mr. Robert Arnett visits India
 next time, he would kindly take the time to visit the Seven Sisters and
 unveil the beautiful North East India and complete the book showing more
 real stuff in India.

 Rajen Barua

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[Assam] Visit of Xotraadhikaar of Aauniaati Xotro to Gurgaon

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Appeal
   
  We are glad to inform you all vide this mail that respected Xotraadhikaar of 
Aauniaati Xotro, located in Majuli of Assam, Dr. Pitambar Dev Goswami has 
kindly consented at our invitation to visit Gurgaon. Dr. Goswami along with 5 
of his disciple will arrive in Gurgaon on the evening of 28th September to take 
part in a day long programme on 30th September, 2007 (Sunday). On that 
occasion, as per the schedule below, a ‘Naam-Keertton’ and a brief ‘Cultural 
Evening’ has been organized by a few families of Delhi, Gurgaon and Faridabad. 
We request all of you to grace the occasion by your presence. We also request 
you to help us with financial help as per your capability for smooth 
functioning of the programme.
   
  Respectfully yours,
   
  Mridul Bhuyan
  Contact no. +91 9910378040
   
  Venue: Community Hall, Rail Vihar, Sector-57, Gurgaon
   
  Schedule:
  Morning:
  Morning 09:30 to 11:30:   Naam-Keertton
  Morning 11:30 to 12:00:   Proxad Bitoron
  Noon 12:00 to 13:00  :   Light Meal
   
  Evening:
  Evening 18:30 to 19:15 :   Borgeet
  Evening 19:15 to 19:45   :   Lecture on Xotriya 
Traditions of Assam
  - Dr, Pitambar Dev Goswami
  - Special Guest
  Evening 19:45 to 20:30 :   Xotriya Nritya 
   

   
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Re: [Assam] Dissection of a Joke

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Well. Now, this 'red neck' is turning out to be a puzzle. For your kind 
infomation, I am not white skinned by birth.:)
   
  Mridul

mc mahant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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A correction. Red neck indeed.

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Subject: Re: [Assam] Dissection of a Joke

  Great. :} the joke as well as your forwarding words.
   
  Mridul Bhuyan

Dilip/Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Netters,
  If you really understand this joke, please let me know. Sincerely, just the 
joke. Please do not spin to Assam.
  Thanks, 
  Dilip Deka
   
  A little Mexican boy goes into the kitchen where his mom Is baking.
He puts his hand in the flour and wipes it all over his face
saying, 'Mom, look, I'm a white boy.' His mom slaps him in the face
and says, 'Go show your father'..

He goes to his dad in the living room and says, 'Look dad, I'm a
white boy.' His dad slaps him hard in the face and says, 'Go show
your grandmother.'

The boy goes in his grandmothers room and says, 'Mira, abuelita, I'm
a white boy'. His grandmother slaps him in the face and sends him
back to his mother.

His mother says, 'See. Did you learn anything from that?'

To which the boy replies, 'Sure did. I have only been white for five
minutes and I already don't like you Mexicans.'

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Re: [Assam] Dissection of a Joke

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Great. :} the joke as well as your forwarding words.
   
  Mridul Bhuyan

Dilip/Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Netters,
  If you really understand this joke, please let me know. Sincerely, just the 
joke. Please do not spin to Assam.
  Thanks, 
  Dilip Deka
   
  A little Mexican boy goes into the kitchen where his mom Is baking.
He puts his hand in the flour and wipes it all over his face
saying, 'Mom, look, I'm a white boy.' His mom slaps him in the face
and says, 'Go show your father'..

He goes to his dad in the living room and says, 'Look dad, I'm a
white boy.' His dad slaps him hard in the face and says, 'Go show
your grandmother.'

The boy goes in his grandmothers room and says, 'Mira, abuelita, I'm
a white boy'. His grandmother slaps him in the face and sends him
back to his mother.

His mother says, 'See. Did you learn anything from that?'

To which the boy replies, 'Sure did. I have only been white for five
minutes and I already don't like you Mexicans.'

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Re: [Assam] AAMSU threat to Assamese

[Mridul Bhuyan]

The impulse will be to do something else (kic), which will not be 
proper to mention in this forum.:) :)
   
  Mridul

Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How about extending the tent and teach the camel how to co-exist. :)
   
  That is a good thought - but what if the camel wants to bring its friends 
along too, and there are no more tents. After all, the camel may need to get 
first preference.:) :).
   
  --Ram da

 
  On 7/31/07, Mridul Bhuyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it is 
neither possible nor practical to push out the camel now after all those long 
years. How about extending the tent and teach the camel how to co-exist. :)
   
  Mridul Bhuyan   

Jyotirmoy Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  That's a good story and amply reflects the current situation in Assam.
  We are in a situation where the camel is already halfway in the tent. It has 
to be pushed out before it pushes us out.
  
 

On 31/07/2007, at 9:46 PM, Ram Sarangapani wrote:

There is this story of the Arab  his camel.
   
  It goes something like this (for those who don't know the story). 
   
  The Arab had pitched his tent for the cold Arabian night (after having fed 
the camel).
  After sometime, the camel asked the Arab :the night's so cold, if I could 
just put my nose inside the tent
  The Arab, being kind-hearted and compassionate, readily agreed.
   
  Once the camel had his nose in, he wanted to get some more of himself inside 
the tent, and as predicted, the Arab agreed.
   
  As the night progressed, and well into the morning, the Arab found himself 
well outside the tent, while the 'poor' camel was resting comfortably inside, 
occupying the whole the tent.
   
  Late in the morning, the Arab, asked if he could share a small part of the 
tent - and guess what the camel told him:) :) and how many of you 
think the Arab got his tent back?
   
  (no grand prizes for correct answers:))
   
  --Ram

 
  On 7/31/07, Jyotirmoy Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:   From the Sentinel 
editorial.
I guess some(very few though) would laugh it off just as they have
been laughing off the threats of the lungi menace or call it Islamic 
phobia.
I strongly agree that their guts to threaten the Assamese people in
lower Assam comes from numbers - that lower Assam -Dhubri, Goalpara
and Barpeta have become their strongholds.
Would any minority organisation be able to threaten the majority in 
any state in any country? What would be the consequences would be
anyone's guess
JS

First they want a separate council.

The AAMSU Notoriety
Last Saturday, Ajijul Hussain Khondakar, chief organizing secretary 
of the All Assam Minorities Students' Union (AAMSU) came down heavily
on the All Assam Students' Union (AASU) for the latter's new and just
initiative to flush out illegal Bangladeshis from Asom, especially in 
the wake of the oust-Bangladeshi drive in neighbouring States.
Khondakar also branded AASU advisor Samujjal Bhattacharyya as a
''Congress agent''. Take it this way: even if one believes that
Bhattacharyya is a Congress agent, it does not produce any great 
unsettling effect, compounded by treason and conspiracy to decimate
the Asomiya society, as the effect produced in the AAMSU's show of
solidarity with illegal Bangladeshis after, of course, defining them
as Indian 'minorities'. Which means even if Bhattacharyya is a 
Congress agent as the AAMSU would have us believe, that is not making
him prone to any allegation that he is an agent of the ISI and
Bangladeshi fundamentalist and terrorist organizations. (Just think 
how easily one would brand the AAMSU and its other varieties as 
cohorts in the ISI-Bangladeshi design for Asom.) Which further means
if Bhattacharyya is indeed a Congress agent — hear this now, Mr
Khondakar — the AAMSU should have nothing to say against him because 
a Congress agent, not mainstream leader, would obviously do 
everything clandestine to consolidate the Bangladeshi vote bank in
Asom; after all, it is the Congress that has had the unique
distinction of having worked out the perverse definition of illegal 
Bangladeshis in Asom as Indian 'minorities' to be eventually followed 
by even the AGP during its Dispur days. Mr Khondakar, are you still
talking sense then?
Be that as it may, the AAMSU notoriety is actually manifest in its 
assertion that it would go all out to protect the suspected 
Bangladeshis, who are being chased away by neighbouring States like
Arunachal Pradesh and Nagaland, because they are not illegal
Bangladeshis but Indian 'minorities'. And then, the AAMSU also 
threatened the Asomiyas in lower Asom of retaliation if the oust- 
Bangladeshi drive continued in the State which, as it would say, is
nothing but an Asomiya ploy to harass the 'minorities'. The question 
is: How can an organization like the AAMSU have the guts to talk of
retaliation against the Asomiyas in Asom? It can be answered in two 
ways. One, today the AAMSU mentality stems from

Re: [Assam] India-New York flight named after Assam -AT

[Mridul Bhuyan]

There are two flights.One by Jet airways  other by Kingfisher.
   
  Regards
   
  Mridul

Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a direct flight between Mumbai and Guahati yet?
  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  At 10:07 AM -0500 8/2/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
  People of Assam will be a happier lot now on, as the first ever 
Mumbai-Newyork non-stop daily flight introduced by Air India today was named 
after the State of Assam. -AT Would have been far more happier if the 
flight was between Guwahati and JFK, or better still Guwahat and Houston :) 
--Ram  --- From A Correspondent
 MUMBAI, Aug 1 - People of Assam will be a happier lot now on, as the first 
ever Mumbai-Newyork non-stop daily flight introduced by Air India today was 
named after the State of Assam. It was an auspicious occasion not only to the 
Assam team led by Debashish Sarma, the Deputy Resident Commissioner, Assam 
Bhawan, Mumbai who participated in the flag-off ceremony, but to the whole 
populace of the state as the high profile flight, with ultra modern aircraft 
technology and facilities, was flagged off by Union Minister of State for Civil 
Aviation Praful Patel at 12.45 am. (IST) in Mumbai.

The ceremony was preceded by traditional Assamese Bihu dance and Bharat Natyam 
of Andhra Pradesh, the state after which another flight is to be named. Both 
the folk dances were highly appreciated by the elite gathering consisting of 
several members of Parliament, top central and state bureaucrats, other 
government officials, filmstars, businessmen among others.

The Assam team which was led by Sri Sarma also included Himangshu Sekhar Das, 
Commissioner, Tourism Department and Liakat Ali, Deputy Director, Tourism 
Department.

Addressing the gathering prior to the formal flag-off of the flight, Praful 
Patel said that since he sat on the saddle, there have been a sea change in the 
aviation sector. He said that the number of aircraft in India has been 
increased from a meagre 138 in 2004 to 330 in 2007. The present government at 
the Centre has made all out effort to make people in every nook and corner in 
the country feel that they are not secluded anymore. They have been given the 
opportunity to feel that there are places to remind beyond metropolis like 
Mumbai and Delhi. Keeping this aim in view, his department has decided to name 
the first two aircraft of this very important fleet after Andhra Pradesh and 
Assam. He reiterated his commitment to improve the condition of the civil 
aviation sector according to the demand of the present scenario.

Speaking on the occasion, V Tulsidas, chairman-cum-managing director, Air 
India, gave a bird's eye view of the aircraft and narrated the facilities 
designed to fit the level of 'customer's delight'. He also informed that the 
country's two major air carriers merger will materialise within the next few 
weeks and the new name would be 'Air India'. Dr V Trivedi, CMD, Indian 
Airlines, also spoke on the occasion. Dr Trivedi disclosed that 10 to 12 
existing aircraft have been transformed into cargos and more are to be inducted 
soon for this purpose. Both the CMDs proudly announced that after the merger 
'Air India' would be the biggest airline in this region.
   
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Re: [Assam] AAMSU threat to Assamese

[Mridul Bhuyan]

I don't think it is neither possible nor practical to push out the camel now 
after all those long years. How about extending the tent and teach the camel 
how to co-exist. :)
   
  Mridul Bhuyan

Jyotirmoy Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's a good story and amply reflects the current situation in Assam.
  We are in a situation where the camel is already halfway in the tent. It has 
to be pushed out before it pushes us out.
  


On 31/07/2007, at 9:46 PM, Ram Sarangapani wrote:

There is this story of the Arab  his camel.
   
  It goes something like this (for those who don't know the story). 
   
  The Arab had pitched his tent for the cold Arabian night (after having fed 
the camel).
  After sometime, the camel asked the Arab :the night's so cold, if I could 
just put my nose inside the tent
  The Arab, being kind-hearted and compassionate, readily agreed.
   
  Once the camel had his nose in, he wanted to get some more of himself inside 
the tent, and as predicted, the Arab agreed.
   
  As the night progressed, and well into the morning, the Arab found himself 
well outside the tent, while the 'poor' camel was resting comfortably inside, 
occupying the whole the tent.
   
  Late in the morning, the Arab, asked if he could share a small part of the 
tent - and guess what the camel told him:) :) and how many of you 
think the Arab got his tent back?
   
  (no grand prizes for correct answers:))
   
  --Ram

 
  On 7/31/07, Jyotirmoy Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   From the Sentinel 
editorial.
I guess some(very few though) would laugh it off just as they have
been laughing off the threats of the lungi menace or call it Islamic 
phobia.
I strongly agree that their guts to threaten the Assamese people in
lower Assam comes from numbers - that lower Assam -Dhubri, Goalpara
and Barpeta have become their strongholds.
Would any minority organisation be able to threaten the majority in 
any state in any country? What would be the consequences would be
anyone's guess
JS

First they want a separate council.

The AAMSU Notoriety
Last Saturday, Ajijul Hussain Khondakar, chief organizing secretary 
of the All Assam Minorities Students' Union (AAMSU) came down heavily
on the All Assam Students' Union (AASU) for the latter's new and just
initiative to flush out illegal Bangladeshis from Asom, especially in
the wake of the oust-Bangladeshi drive in neighbouring States.
Khondakar also branded AASU advisor Samujjal Bhattacharyya as a
''Congress agent''. Take it this way: even if one believes that
Bhattacharyya is a Congress agent, it does not produce any great 
unsettling effect, compounded by treason and conspiracy to decimate
the Asomiya society, as the effect produced in the AAMSU's show of
solidarity with illegal Bangladeshis after, of course, defining them
as Indian 'minorities'. Which means even if Bhattacharyya is a 
Congress agent as the AAMSU would have us believe, that is not making
him prone to any allegation that he is an agent of the ISI and
Bangladeshi fundamentalist and terrorist organizations. (Just think
how easily one would brand the AAMSU and its other varieties as 
cohorts in the ISI-Bangladeshi design for Asom.) Which further means
if Bhattacharyya is indeed a Congress agent — hear this now, Mr
Khondakar — the AAMSU should have nothing to say against him because
a Congress agent, not mainstream leader, would obviously do 
everything clandestine to consolidate the Bangladeshi vote bank in
Asom; after all, it is the Congress that has had the unique
distinction of having worked out the perverse definition of illegal
Bangladeshis in Asom as Indian 'minorities' to be eventually followed 
by even the AGP during its Dispur days. Mr Khondakar, are you still
talking sense then?
Be that as it may, the AAMSU notoriety is actually manifest in its
assertion that it would go all out to protect the suspected 
Bangladeshis, who are being chased away by neighbouring States like
Arunachal Pradesh and Nagaland, because they are not illegal
Bangladeshis but Indian 'minorities'. And then, the AAMSU also
threatened the Asomiyas in lower Asom of retaliation if the oust- 
Bangladeshi drive continued in the State which, as it would say, is
nothing but an Asomiya ploy to harass the 'minorities'. The question
is: How can an organization like the AAMSU have the guts to talk of
retaliation against the Asomiyas in Asom? It can be answered in two 
ways. One, today the AAMSU mentality stems from the fact that most of
lower Asom is dominated by what it calls 'minorities', thanks not
only to illegal immigration from Bangladesh but also to their
fertility rate. Today the AAMSU is confident of saying anything 
against the Asomiyas when it comes to lower Asom, because the
organization knows how safe it is, and how safe the 'minorities' are,
in this part of Asom. It is pretty clear who most of these so-called
minorities are. And two, the AAMSU has the guts to talk against the 
Asomiyas because they foresee

Re: [Assam] Math First: Harvard UVa study on college science success

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Dear Uttam,
   
  Thanks for reminding me. However, not so many years back, I had the 
opportunity to work with GE in US. What my experience told me that many of the 
high tech jobs, which in India, we can't even dreamt of being perfomed by a 
non-engineer, have very efficiently been done by non-technical man there in US. 
As far as PSUs are concerned, they are not exactly doing a bad job even in the 
current scenario, competing with the private sector (take for example, NTPC, 
POWERGRID, PFC, BHEL... do not bring in SEBs, state PSUs), provided the modern 
day heroes like, PChidambaram, Montek S etc. allows them to continue. See the 
working of some of private sector giants like RIL and you will know, to what 
extent they rely on Engineers.
   
  However, as you say things are changing for better or worse and I will not 
deny you of your rights to rejoice.
   
  Mridul
   
   
  uttam borthakur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as engineers employed in India, I am not sure if being creative 
or not makes any difference. Regarding most of the engineering jobs in India, 
except in a few cases, I am not sure, if Engineers are required at all :)
   
  India seems to be in a transitional phase. In the prior period, i.e the days 
of the PSUs etc., what you have stated holds good, because, the stress was on 
non-performance and to look up for loans, aids and offals etc.,  for whatever 
reason. The emerging situation involving more geographical division of labour, 
now demands more performance at comparatively lower prices than ,say, in the 
west. So, creativity enhancing such performance or lowering of the cost of 
production, would be welcomed and remunerated. So, Mridul, you can continue 
with your  happy disposition of earlier days and need not brood, because, as 
they say, the things are changing for the better or for the worse  

Mridul Bhuyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as engineers employed in India, I am not sure if being creative or 
not makes any difference. Regarding most of the engineering jobs in India, 
except in a few cases, I am not sure, if Engineers are required at all :)
   
  Mridul Bhuyan

Dilip/Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Umesh,
  Not every engineer needs to be creative. However every engineer should be 
good in math, just to survive in the field. The design engineers need to know 
what is behind the softwares they use now a days to solve engineering problems.
  There are functions in engineering where a person can contribute without 
being creative in the real sense of the word. I have spent 30+ years in the 
field, including management of engineers, I should know something about 
engineers by now.
  A request to engineers in India - please speak up.
  Dilipda

umesh sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  C-da,

But the article was about doing intensive coursework in math at high school 
levele - not at an engineering college.

***But there is more to it: Ability to do good math, by and of itself, does not 
guarantee success as an engineer or scientist. One can do well in the academic 
exams, can even get good jobs, not just as engineers, but in a lot of other 
fields, but real engineering also requires creativity -- something Indian 
engineering schools rarely help develop, while not everyone is endowed with an 
ability or have the aptitude to develop it 

Umesh

Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 1:33 PM -0700 7/27/07, 
Dilip/Dil Deka wrote:
  Netters with interest in science will find this article interesting. Math is 
used in all sciences, so obviously good fundamental knowledge in math helps 
students in all branches of science. A good grasp of math in high school helps 
engineering students as well, across the board.  


  *** And that is exactly why it is so essential to have a sound primary 
education where math fundamentals  take root or die. If you look at the 
percentage of students in Assam who have a decent knowledge of math 
fundamentals, you will know why so few excel in science, technology etc.
  

  But there is more to it: Ability to do good math, by and of itself, does not 
guarantee success as an engineer or scientist. One can do well in the academic 
exams, can even get good jobs, not just as engineers, but in a lot of other 
fields, but real engineering also requires creativity -- something Indian 
engineering schools rarely help develop, while not everyone is endowed with an 
ability or have the aptitude to develop it .
  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  


  Dilip  ==

umesh sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://www.fas.harvard.edu/home/news_and_events/releases/science_07262007.html

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Re: [Assam] Math First: Harvard UVa study on college science success

[Mridul Bhuyan]

I agree wholeheartedly. Regarding the rejoicing part, let it remain like that. 
:)
   
  Mridul
   
  

uttam borthakur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Mridul
   
  I agree whole heartedly about what you say. Though I am a non-technical 
person, I understand that you do not always need engineers to run many of the 
works in a system. ( I thought you were referring to the fact that in India 
many engineers are reduced to file pushers and forget their subjects. I now 
understand that you were saying so in another context) I also have been told 
that in the developed world, the nurses do the main works and the doctors are 
basically planners and supervisors. Yes, some PSU's are performing well, but 
there has been a design to undermine those, as if privatisation is the only way 
of salvation. Even the performers are not allowed to continue.That is why I 
told that the stress was on their non-performance. In Assam, some of the 
private sector industries have come up only to take away the subsidies and 
enjoy other benefits while they are actually wheeling-dealing traders from the 
rest of India. With the increased automation, engineers are required
 more for supervision, planning, training and creativity than doing day to day 
chores. Why should I rejoice That part I have not understood. Be that as it 
may, I have said so, because only time will tell whether the changes are for 
the good or for the worse.   

Mridul Bhuyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Uttam,
   
  Thanks for reminding me. However, not so many years back, I had the 
opportunity to work with GE in US. What my experience told me that many of the 
high tech jobs, which in India, we can't even dreamt of being perfomed by a 
non-engineer, have very efficiently been done by non-technical man there in US. 
As far as PSUs are concerned, they are not exactly doing a bad job even in the 
current scenario, competing with the private sector (take for example, NTPC, 
POWERGRID, PFC, BHEL... do not bring in SEBs, state PSUs), provided the modern 
day heroes like, PChidambaram, Montek S etc. allows them to continue. See the 
working of some of private sector giants like RIL and you will know, to what 
extent they rely on Engineers.
   
  However, as you say things are changing for better or worse and I will not 
deny you of your rights to rejoice.
   
  Mridul
   
   
  uttam borthakur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as engineers employed in India, I am not sure if being creative 
or not makes any difference. Regarding most of the engineering jobs in India, 
except in a few cases, I am not sure, if Engineers are required at all :)
   
  India seems to be in a transitional phase. In the prior period, i.e the days 
of the PSUs etc., what you have stated holds good, because, the stress was on 
non-performance and to look up for loans, aids and offals etc.,  for whatever 
reason. The emerging situation involving more geographical division of labour, 
now demands more performance at comparatively lower prices than ,say, in the 
west. So, creativity enhancing such performance or lowering of the cost of 
production, would be welcomed and remunerated. So, Mridul, you can continue 
with your  happy disposition of earlier days and need not brood, because, as 
they say, the things are changing for the better or for the worse  

Mridul Bhuyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as engineers employed in India, I am not sure if being creative or 
not makes any difference. Regarding most of the engineering jobs in India, 
except in a few cases, I am not sure, if Engineers are required at all :)
   
  Mridul Bhuyan

Dilip/Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Umesh,
  Not every engineer needs to be creative. However every engineer should be 
good in math, just to survive in the field. The design engineers need to know 
what is behind the softwares they use now a days to solve engineering problems.
  There are functions in engineering where a person can contribute without 
being creative in the real sense of the word. I have spent 30+ years in the 
field, including management of engineers, I should know something about 
engineers by now.
  A request to engineers in India - please speak up.
  Dilipda

umesh sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  C-da,

But the article was about doing intensive coursework in math at high school 
levele - not at an engineering college.

***But there is more to it: Ability to do good math, by and of itself, does not 
guarantee success as an engineer or scientist. One can do well in the academic 
exams, can even get good jobs, not just as engineers, but in a lot of other 
fields, but real engineering also requires creativity -- something Indian 
engineering schools rarely help develop, while not everyone is endowed with an 
ability or have the aptitude to develop it 

Umesh

Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 1:33 PM -0700 7/27/07, 
Dilip/Dil Deka wrote:
  Netters with interest in science will find this article interesting

Re: [Assam] Moral-Fashion police

[Mridul Bhuyan]

The charms of being a Cottonian are gone :). I don't know if they have banned 
sitting in canteen or walking arround Handique.
   
  Mridul

Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Students have also been prohibited from gossiping and loitering in the 
college campus and from talking over cell phones.  
   
  Wow! - no more adda-mara? 
   
  --Ram
   
  New Cottonian Dress Code
The Cotton College Students' Union has reportedly issued a strict ''Code of 
Conduct'' to instil discipline and decency among the students of the college. 
The code of conduct has made 75 per cent attendance in classes mandatory, as 
also formal trousers with shirts or T-shirts for boys and salwar-kameez with a 
dupatta or sari or mekhela-chador for girls. 
There is no gainsaying the fact the dress code is meant for enforcing strict 
discipline and decency among the students. Students have also been prohibited 
from gossiping and loitering in the college campus and from talking over cell 
phones. This apart, they have to primarily display their identity cards by 
wearing them around their neck. The general secretary of the college union said 
that the queries on the part of the students about the new code of conduct was 
natural. He said that the college authorities and the union were trying their 
best to address students' queries and clear their doubts. He appealed to all 
students to adhere to the new code of conduct to maintain order and decency 
within the college campus only. He also appealed to the senior students to 
maintain order in the college campus and set an example to their juniors. No 
incident of ragging would be allowed within the college campus or in college 
hostels on the first day. 
The intention of the union when it comes to the new dress code in the premier 
college, is perfectly in order. But the question is: Will it not prompt someone 
to challenge the dress code on the grounds of human rights? Who knows! 
Jibon Saikia,
Chenikuthi, Guwahati-3.
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Re: [Assam] Math First: Harvard UVa study on college science success

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Dear Dilip Da,
   
  My regards to you. Yes, I live in Gurgaon, in India.
   
  In private sector, all the big names like Reliance, AREVA, ABB, SIEMENS, 
Crompton Greaves... etc are employing engineers but not because they need them 
all, but due to the fact thay are available at a cheaper price. The call 
centres are also hiring engineers because they are available at the same price 
tag as that of an BA/BSc/B.Com. Being in Gurgaon, I have come across about 
10/12 engineers from Assam (from our kharkhoowa engineering colleges), who are 
working in the call centres such as American Express, citibank etc. In call 
centres of Wipro, IBM, DELL... finding engineers is understandable, however, I 
doubt what type of specialist jobs they are doing, which can't be handled by a 
software programmer. Recently, I met one first class mechanical engineer from 
AEC (that too with very high scores), working in American Express, doing 
customer service. Let's talk about our great 'Bania' Company Reliance Energy 
(Engaged in distribution of power in portion of Delhi). They
 would've employed the cheapest available non-technical manpower, had it not 
been for the high voltage circuit breakers, transformers, they have to handle. 
But they are now recruiting engineers only for almost all category of jobs 
except for finance, because the supply is abundant. You can get a fresh 
engineer for Rs.3.0 lakhs per annum, but a MBA costs almost twice that amount. 
They transform the Engineer to an excellent manager with their bania 
expertise.:). So, tell me how creativity comes in to the picture. As pointed 
out by Uttam, Private sector is all about acquiring max. ouput with minimum 
cost. Hope, the picture is clearer now.
   
  Regards
   
  Mridul

Dilip/Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mridul,
  How does it shake out if you draw a line between the public and private 
sectors? If the private sector also is employing engineers just for the sake of 
providing employment or because there is a position open for an engineering 
degree holder, then there is a big problem. 
  I don't know whether you live in India or not. I'd like to hear how it is in 
the Indian private sector.
  Dilip Deka

Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 10:04 PM -0700 7/29/07, Mridul Bhuyan wrote:
  As far as engineers employed in India, I am not sure if being creative or not 
makes any difference. Regarding most of the engineering jobs in India, except 
in a few cases, I am not sure, if Engineers are required at all :) Mridul 
Bhuyan  


  

   You are sooo right Mridul!
  

  What our NRI friends can't quite deal with is the realities of India. They 
need to keep up those appearances, NOT because they  do not know, but it is 
from their own personal insecurities about who or what they identify with.
  

  

  c-da
  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  


  
Dilip/Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Umesh,  Not every engineer needs to be creative. However every engineer 
should be good in math, just to survive in the field. The design engineers need 
to know what is behind the softwares they use now a days to solve engineering 
problems.  There are functions in engineering where a person can contribute 
without being creative in the real sense of the word. I have spent 30+ years in 
the field, including management of engineers, I should know something about 
engineers by now.  A request to engineers in India - please speak up.  Dilipda

umesh sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  C-da,

But the article was about doing intensive coursework in math at high school 
levele - not at an engineering college.

***But there is more to it: Ability to do good math, by and of itself, does not 
guarantee success as an engineer or scientist. One can do well in the academic 
exams, can even get good jobs, not just as engineers, but in a lot of other 
fields, but real engineering also requires creativity -- something Indian 
engineering schools rarely help develop, while not everyone is endowed with an 
ability or have the aptitude to develop it

Umesh

Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  At 1:33 PM -0700 7/27/07, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote:
  Netters with interest in science will find this article interesting. Math is 
used in all sciences, so obviously good fundamental knowledge in math helps 
students in all branches of science. A good grasp of math in high school helps 
engineering students as well, across the board.
  

  *** And that is exactly why it is so essential to have a sound primary 
education where math fundamentals  take root or die. If you look at the 
percentage of students in Assam who have a decent knowledge of math 
fundamentals, you will know why so few excel in science, technology etc.  
  But there is more to it: Ability to do good math, by and of itself, does not 
guarantee success as an engineer or scientist. One can do well in the academic 
exams, can even get good jobs, not just as engineers

Re: [Assam] Math First: Harvard UVa study on college science success

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Dear Umesh  Dilip Da,
   
  Personally, I feel Engineers are best of the lot. They are very analytical in 
approach and they can catch up anything very fast, manage everything with care 
and an engineer has the capability to run a company very successfully with or 
without an MBA degree. However, in India, they are one of the most mis-utilised 
lot.
   
  Umesh, in response to your mail regarding BHEL, as I have pointed out to 
Uttam earlier, there are some public sector units such as NTPC, POWERGRID, 
BHEL who are doing excellent even with their limited resources. However, 
their performance could have reached greater heights had their workforce had 
high moral. The majority of engineers are doing the similar type of jobs all 
through-out their life without any special incentive. There is hardly any 
difference in treatment (incentivewise) between a creative one and others. Even 
if you wish to use your creativity, you are not encouraged to use it. What 
these PSUs are achieving, it is because of some stupid (:)) sincere engineers, 
who are indifferent towards any incentive and thinks that it is their duty 
towards the country.
   
  In private sector, the scenario is that the majority of engineers are always 
under pressure to perform. The output expected from you by your employer is 
without any limit. You sometimes wish, you had two brains and four hands. They 
have to sacrifice their personal lives, which is affecting the mentalities of 
those hard-pressed people in a very bad way. The end result you see is 
irritation on slightest provocation, unhappy family life, indifference towards 
social life, alchoholism etc. etc.
   
  I have written quite a long mail. Bye for now.
   
  Regards
   
  Mridul

umesh sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Mridul-da,

Hmmm I can see where the anti-entrepreneurship attitude is leading to.  Perhaps 
you have heard that engineers are also becoming CEOs  --IITians  have become 
phonemal  investmant bankers -helped by the fact that not only they are good 
number crunchers but alo they understand engineering companies better . You 
might have heard of one Rajat Gupta who was an IITian , Harvard MBA and lead 
McKinsey -a company which is into bania like activities.

Umesh

Mridul Bhuyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Dear Dilip Da,
   
  My regards to you. Yes, I live in Gurgaon, in India.
   
  In private sector, all the big names like Reliance, AREVA, ABB, SIEMENS, 
Crompton Greaves... etc are employing engineers but not because they need them 
all, but due to the fact thay are available at a cheaper price. The call 
centres are also hiring engineers because they are available at the same price 
tag as that of an BA/BSc/B.Com. Being in Gurgaon, I have come across about 
10/12 engineers from Assam (from our kharkhoowa engineering colleges), who are 
working in the call centres such as American Express, citibank etc. In call 
centres of Wipro, IBM, DELL... finding engineers is understandable, however, I 
doubt what type of specialist jobs they are doing, which can't be handled by a 
software programmer. Recently, I met one first class mechanical engineer from 
AEC (that too with very high scores), working in American Express, doing 
customer service. Let's talk about our great 'Bania' Company Reliance Energy 
(Engaged in distribution of power in portion of Delhi). They
 would've employed the cheapest available non-technical manpower, had it not 
been for the high voltage circuit breakers, transformers, they have to handle. 
But they are now recruiting engineers only for almost all category of jobs 
except for finance, because the supply is abundant. You can get a fresh 
engineer for Rs.3.0 lakhs per annum, but a MBA costs almost twice that amount. 
They transform the Engineer to an excellent manager with their bania 
expertise.:). So, tell me how creativity comes in to the picture. As pointed 
out by Uttam, Private sector is all about acquiring max. ouput with minimum 
cost. Hope, the picture is clearer now.
   
  Regards
   
  Mridul

Dilip/Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mridul,
  How does it shake out if you draw a line between the public and private 
sectors? If the private sector also is employing engineers just for the sake of 
providing employment or because there is a position open for an engineering 
degree holder, then there is a big problem. 
  I don't know whether you live in India or not. I'd like to hear how it is in 
the Indian private sector.
  Dilip Deka

Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 10:04 PM -0700 7/29/07, Mridul Bhuyan wrote:
  As far as engineers employed in India, I am not sure if being creative or not 
makes any difference. Regarding most of the engineering jobs in India, except 
in a few cases, I am not sure, if Engineers are required at all :) Mridul 
Bhuyan  


  

   You are sooo right Mridul!
  

  What our NRI friends can't quite deal with is the realities of India. They 
need to keep up those appearances

Re: [Assam] Math First: Harvard UVa study on college science success

[Mridul Bhuyan]

As far as engineers employed in India, I am not sure if being creative or not 
makes any difference. Regarding most of the engineering jobs in India, except 
in a few cases, I am not sure, if Engineers are required at all :)
   
  Mridul Bhuyan

Dilip/Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Umesh,
  Not every engineer needs to be creative. However every engineer should be 
good in math, just to survive in the field. The design engineers need to know 
what is behind the softwares they use now a days to solve engineering problems.
  There are functions in engineering where a person can contribute without 
being creative in the real sense of the word. I have spent 30+ years in the 
field, including management of engineers, I should know something about 
engineers by now.
  A request to engineers in India - please speak up.
  Dilipda

umesh sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  C-da,

But the article was about doing intensive coursework in math at high school 
levele - not at an engineering college.

***But there is more to it: Ability to do good math, by and of itself, does not 
guarantee success as an engineer or scientist. One can do well in the academic 
exams, can even get good jobs, not just as engineers, but in a lot of other 
fields, but real engineering also requires creativity -- something Indian 
engineering schools rarely help develop, while not everyone is endowed with an 
ability or have the aptitude to develop it 

Umesh

Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 1:33 PM -0700 7/27/07, 
Dilip/Dil Deka wrote:
  Netters with interest in science will find this article interesting. Math is 
used in all sciences, so obviously good fundamental knowledge in math helps 
students in all branches of science. A good grasp of math in high school helps 
engineering students as well, across the board.  


  *** And that is exactly why it is so essential to have a sound primary 
education where math fundamentals  take root or die. If you look at the 
percentage of students in Assam who have a decent knowledge of math 
fundamentals, you will know why so few excel in science, technology etc.
  

  But there is more to it: Ability to do good math, by and of itself, does not 
guarantee success as an engineer or scientist. One can do well in the academic 
exams, can even get good jobs, not just as engineers, but in a lot of other 
fields, but real engineering also requires creativity -- something Indian 
engineering schools rarely help develop, while not everyone is endowed with an 
ability or have the aptitude to develop it .
  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  


  Dilip  ==

umesh sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://www.fas.harvard.edu/home/news_and_events/releases/science_07262007.html

Umesh Sharma

Washington D.C.

1-202-215-4328 [Cell]

Ed.M. - International Education Policy
Harvard Graduate School of Education,
Harvard University,
Class of 2005

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[Assam] Fwd: Assam Association Formed in Gurgaon

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Assam Association Gurgaon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 
11:16:43 +0530
From: Assam Association Gurgaon [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Subject: Fwd: Assam Association Formed in Gurgaon

  
To,
  All the Members,
   
  Pls. follow the following link for the news clipping regarding Assam 
Association Gurgaon.
   
Assam Association Formed in Gurgaon By admin on 23 July, 2007 19:52:59

 
 Gurgaon : The  Millennium City  that's the word that has been coined for 
Gurgaon. The Millennium city with its huge Assamese population formally got its 
own Assam Association with the completion of the registration formalities on 
13th of July 2007.The association has been registered under the Societies Act 
1860 of India.
   
  Assam Association of Gurgaon was formed on 11th of Feb 2007 by a group of 
people from Assam and well-wishers of Assam, currently residing or having his 
place of business in the Millennium city of Gurgaon. The association is a 
socio-cultural non-profit society. 
  
  The main objectives of the association are to achieve harmony, bonhomie, 
camaraderie of the members and to provide a platform for social interaction and 
to promote socio-cultural activities related to Assam. 
  
  The Assam Association of Gurgaon had organised the Bohag Bihu in April 2007 
which was a grand success. 


  
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Date: Jul 24, 2007 11:07 AM
Subject: Assam Association Formed in Gurgaon
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Pls. find the news report. 
Click the following to access the sent link:
http://www.assamtimes.org/index.php?news=231 

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Re: [Assam] Dress Code - Blame the Victim

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Dear Umesh,
   
  There is no need of any such research result and its true that female attire 
and appearance definitely has effect on male psyche. Being familiar to Delhi in 
the past, you must have noticed that it's not the student from North east alone 
who used to dress provocatively, even girls from mainland (so called) also 
dresses very very provocatively. The truth is that mainland Indians never think 
the North Easterners as Indians. They believe they are having the best of 
habits and none else, in fact it's quite opposite. I request all not to give a 
damn what they think and continue in your own way.
   
  Regards
   
  Mridul  

umesh sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I agree that NE students should not targetted - as Delhi Police guy has shone 
in his biased letter -esp about food , clothes etc.

It would be interesting to know if there is research which shows that female 
attire and appearance has NO effect on male psyche.

Umesh

Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Here is a letter from the 
Sentinel. Yesterday, there were a few others on the same subject, ie. the Delhi 
Police dress code for NE students. 
   
  While most of would agree that the Delhi Police is basically off on a tangent 
and possibly showing its ignorance and rather discriminatory attitude toward NE 
students, I am quite surprised how many are willing (including the author 
below) to blame the victim here (instead of the perpetrator) for such crimes. 
Is the victim contributing to the crime? 
   
  Those tight and revealing clothes were then worn only by those who would 
invite the lusty crowd. 
   
  I really wonder, how something like this would fly in the US in a 
rape/molestation case? Would the perpetrator get a pass because a certain 
'societal dress code' wasn't followed? Would the victim be blamed first for not 
conforming. 
   
  It is totally a different matter where a society may have certain 
expectations of decency and dress codes. IMHO, we must be careful in making a 
cause and effect relationship between how a person is dressed and crimes 
committed. 
If we did, how different would that make us from the Delhi Police?
   

  There are umpteen research out there to show sex crimes are in no way related 
to how scantily a person is dressed.  
  Maybe the burquas would do the trick (ie. keeping the lusty crowd at bay 
:):)
   
   
  --Ram
   
  
   
  Decent Dress Sense
Apropos the letter entitled ''Of Dress Code'' (The Sentinel, July 18, 2007) by 
Salil Gewali, I personally join in the chorus to condemn the discriminating 
attitude of the Delhi Police authorities against students from the Northeast. 
The Northeast has been much neglected and underestimated, for which I hold the 
governments, both at the Centre and in the States, responsible. 
However, what Salil Gewali has said through his letter is totally correct as 
far as the 'modern' immodest dressing style is concerned, which is fast 
corrupting our society. Why have the kinds of dresses that were considered very 
indecent and sexually appealing, now become so normal, and why are we allowing 
our children to wear them? Could we ever imagine our children in those 
body-hugging outfits a decade ago? Those tight and revealing clothes were then 
worn only by those who would invite the lusty crowd. 
Has not the present indecent fashion trend been sexually desensitizing us? Just 
a kissing scene was so appealing some years back, while a semi-clad sultry 
siren doing an item number now fails to excite the audience. Why so? Is it not 
because we have abused the sex-feeling too much and, therefore, lost its 
appeal? Is it not a perverse trend? 
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Re: [Assam] Assamnet moved to a dedicated server

[Mridul Bhuyan]

That's really an effort worth praising. It's a big job. Thanks to JK  BG.
   
  Mridul Bhuyan

Roy, Santanu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Yes - it is a wonderful service to the community. Thank you and thanks to 
Chandan-da
for providing the crucial support. 
Santanu. 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Chan Mahanta
Sent: Wed 7/18/2007 2:30 PM
To: J Kalita; assam@assamnet.org
Subject: Re: [Assam] Assamnet moved to a dedicated server

J and B:

Thanks, as always, for all you do to keep assamnet alive.

c-da










At 12:23 PM -0700 7/18/07, J Kalita wrote:
Hello Members of Assamnet,

The company that was hosting assamnet recently asked
us to move a few days ago due to the large number of
emails that had to be sent out by their server. They
were in a shared environment and it was becoming too
burdensome for them. As a result, we moved to a new
dedicated server a couple of days ago. We were having
some problems, but I think Babul and the company have
been able to fix all the problems. Sorry for the mail
interruptions over the past couple of days.

Jugal Kalita
Babul Gogoi

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[Assam] Water bridge

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Pls. see the water bridge. Isn't it marvellous? See the sender's question 
and reply.
   
  Mridul Bhuyan 
   
   
   
   
  [cc76batch] FW: [bitsaa78] Fwd: FW: WATER bridge over a riverý

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Have you ever seen a WATER bridge over a river?

Even ! after yo u see it, it is still hard to believe !

WaterBridge in Germany ... What a feat!
Six years, 500 million euros, 918 meters long...now this is engineering!

This is a channel-bridge over the River Elbe and joins the former East and 
West Germany, as part of the unification project.

It is located in the city of Magdeburg, near Berlin. The photo was taken on 
the day of inauguration.

To those who appreciate engineering projects, here's a puzzle for you 
armchair engineers and physicists.

Did that bridge have to be designed to withstand the additional weight of 
ship and barge traffic, or just the weight of the water?

Answer:
It only needs to be designed to withstand the weight of the water!

Why? A ship always displaces an amount of water that weighs the same as the 
ship,
! regardless of how heavily a ship may be loaded.

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Re: [Assam] Spraying bullets on P.C. Ram proves that Indian Dalits lives like that of the Assamese are cheaper than the cost of a bullet. All Dalits should now rally behind Mr. Ram�s reported wish to

[Mridul Bhuyan]

So, finally they validated their point. Nice job.

Bartta Bistar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:FCI top boss killed in ULFA-Police 
encounter Guwahati, UNI: FCI top boss P C Ram died in an exchange of fire 
between ULFA and police forces near Kamalpur, at the outskirt of the city, 
early Thursday. 
  
http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/Jul122007/national2007071212434.asp?section=updatenews
 
   Two ULFA cadres were also killed in the encounter which took place at 
Panitela village near Changsari as the ultras were taking shelter in the 
residence of one Gobinda Deka. 
  According to DIG Assam police G P Singh, ''Along with the bodies of two ULFA 
cadres we have recovered another corpse of a 50-55 year-old man. From the photo 
we are carrying, he looks like the abducted FCI executive P C Ram. We are in 
the process of completing the formalities of identification.'' 
  However, the villagers as well as the media persons who had reached the spot 
confirmed that the body was that of Ram. It was lying in a pool of blood, 
facing downwards. 
  The killing of Ram ended the last 13 days' twists and turns in the 
abduction-murder case which had left the family as well as the police confused.
   
  Recovery of a mutilated body by police on June 30 from the Baska area and 
subsequent identification of it as Ram unleashed a series of bizarre 
developments.
  As Ram's family cremated the body and was receiving dignitaries mourning the 
death, the FCI top boss himself called up saying that he was alive and that the 
corpse belonged to someone else.
  An embarrassed Asom government quickly acknowledged its mistake and said the 
body belonged to an army man Lance Naik Sunil Kumar who was abducted and killed 
by ULFA around the same place.
  A day after police said the body found in Baska district on June 30 was that 
of lance Naik Sunil Kumar and not the abducted FCI executive director, the 
armyman's wife in Himachal Pradesh said it could not be her husband.
  Meanwhile, ULFA's announcement on Thursday that Ram was alive and a call to 
his family the next day from a man who sounded like him added to the 
complications. The police are banking on the DNA profiling of his hair and skin 
samples.
  His family members were expected to reach Guwahati by this afternoon to 
formally identify the body. 
   

  
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[Assam] New Internet Newspaper

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Dear Netters,
   
  Mr. Arindam Garg based in Gurgaon and his team have started a internet 
newspaper. Pls. visit http://assamtimes.org/ and contribute in your own way. I 
think he  his team have done a commendable job.
   
  Regards
   
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Re: [Assam] Response to Chitta on the Mohamari--Part II

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Dear Mr. Mohan,
   
  I particularly am very short of time nowadays to write a long mail. However, 
I felt to reply to few of ur observations.
   
  I don't see anything bad of a SULFA tag. It is much better then a ULFA tag.
It is wrong to loathe the ULFA because people once supported them. They
came into existence because of people support. But time has diluted that
support.

ULFA lost that support because it has a wish list which is not the mandate
of the people.

  It is avery debatable issue which tag is better. It is unfortunate for the 
people of Assam that they had to deal with these two tags. I do not agree on 
why ULFA lost the mendate of the people of Assam. As per my opinion, its 
because of the following reasons.
   
  1. Dictating terms to the people about what to do.
  2. Harrassment by armed forces.
  3. Extortion of money from some wealthy people specially from some of their 
own.
  4. Disturbance in the otherwise peaceful atmosphere in Assam
  5. jeopardising normal life.
   
  However, these are the fallouts of any such revolution. Replay the movie with 
cuts on the above  see how many support ULFA.
   
  Those small steps have cost many lives in the state. Assam is on the verge
of an economic disater. If ULFA is serious about its goal then it would
have an agenda that has people's mandate behind it. I do not see that
happening.

  Regarding your opinion about economic disaster, when was Assam not in that 
state since independance? Till the time GOI sanctioned the requirements of 
Assam as a grant, it was OK. As soons as they stopped the grants and allowed 
the same as loan, Assam is always on the verge of an eco disaster.
   
  It will be most saddening if Assam is broken into small tribal states. I
would like to see Assam remain as a unified state comprising of all
original and neo assamese groups.

Even if it is saddening, it is bound to happen, whether there is ULFA or not. 
It is simply not possible with the increase in population and with people 
becomming aware of their rights (or rites?)
   
  While expressing your comments on my observations, don't expect me to be 
punctual. :)
   
  Regards
  Mridul Bhuyan
   
   
  
Mohan R. Palleti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
C'Da
I am sure I can not argue with the same passion that you have, but I will
attempt to speak on some issues..


 Hi Again Chitta:




Like sponsoring Assamese mountaineer for Mount Everest
 expedition etc. And as Mr. Mohan said they will be
 remembered as the greatest heroes of Assam forever.
 That’s much better than life in exile/oblivion or the
 SULFA tag.




 BTW, what is so bad about the SULFA tag? One of
 the three of your wishes is to 'woo and sway' the
 'misled' and then you decry SULFA.

I don't see anything bad of a SULFA tag. It is much better then a ULFA tag.
It is wrong to loathe the ULFA because people once supported them. They
came into existence because of people support. But time has diluted that
support.

ULFA lost that support because it has a wish list which is not the mandate
of the people.

Xaap hoi
 khutisa aaru bez hoiw jaarisa, buisa? Can you
 have it both ways? On the one hand you wish for
 the ULFA to disappear and on the other you don't
 want them to be SULFAs; on the one hand you
 loathe them and question their sincerity and on
 the other you wish them to use their wealth to
 boost Assamese pride; on the one hand you
 supported the ULFA and expected them to rid you
 of the lungi-menace , corrupt officials and
 neighborhood bullies and on the other hand you
 chase them away with the might of the Indian army
 and then taunt them for fleeing and hiding with
 the enemy.

ULFA can no longer be able to get rid of the illegal bangladeshi
immigrants because they are in their stable now. From what I have been
reading on the net, they have now spawned several fundamentalists group
within the state. This and the fact that they are working hand in hand
with ISI takes away any laurels they might have ever had.

 Point I
 am driving home is that if you are serious about your
 goal, you would not be afraid of taking small steps.

Those small steps have cost many lives in the state. Assam is on the verge
of an economic disater. If ULFA is serious about its goal then it would
have an agenda that has people's mandate behind it. I do not see that
happening.

ULFA has however taken some good steps in the past few weeks by denouncing
certain mishappenings which they claim not to be a party to (Ms Rubi
Bhuyan's email.


 *** I don't know anything about these luminaries
 or their words of wisdom. But I do wonder about
 the WISDOM of having a separate Bodo state,
 without the means to sustain itself, forever
 looking at handouts from Dilli to sustain
 themselves, no doubt to lead a life of DEPENDENCY
 on the eternal benevolence of India. Sounds to
 me like words of wisdom devised by Dilli and
 delivered by a puppet on strings.


It will be most saddening if Assam is broken into small tribal states. I
would

Re: [Assam] xoru-kotha

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Alpana Ba,
   
  I think it is 'Wax Gourd'.
   
  Regards
   
  Mridul

Alpana B. Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  P  {  margin:0px;  padding:0px  }  body  {  FONT-SIZE: 10pt;  
FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma  }Hi All:
 
Could anybody tell me what is the English name of Potol - yes, the vegetable 
that is abundant during the summer(?) in Assam and $9.00 a pound in the US :). 
Like any other vegetables, I was never crazy about it but it is okay. But the 
hindusthani(?) name 'parowol' for 'potol' is just driving me nuts. I would 
rather talk about it in English. :)
 
Oh, please don't think this now: 'eh, aami imaan sirius kotha paati aasu - 
dex-bidexor baare-boronia rajnitir kotha-r logote` upor-khapor kotha, eo akou 
aahil eta paak-ghoror xoru kotha eta loi'. 
 
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before they feel insulted, but they are too beautiful - you know what I mean, 
if you ever have had a dog at home) dogs. 
 
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Re: [Assam] 'Bhut jolokia is world's hottest chi lli'

[Mridul Bhuyan]

'Bhwt jolokia' or 'Bih jolokia' (known as Bih jolokia in Upper Assam, I am not 
sure if both are same), this is one of my favourites. I make it a point to 
bring a jarfull of the same while comming back from Assam. In Shivaxagar, it 
costs about 50 paise for one jolokia. I made some Delhites to taste it. In 
their subsequent visit, they are afraid even to touch the jar.:)
   
  Mridul Bhuyan

Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Buisa Komol, tumi tinisukiya hobo para, pise' bih jolokiya 'bhut ba 
bhoot  jolokiya' nohoy. Oxomiya obhdhaanotw iyak 'bhwt jolokiya'  buliyei paba, 
 WITH a 'murdhonyo to' as Priyankoo explained.
  

  My guess would be that the Bhutiyas like it too, or they grow them. Yes, the 
Nagas are the biggest consumers of this almost poisonous chili pepper. In fact, 
when I was at Namti in January, a local young man wanted to show me his 'bhwt 
jolokiya' plantation. I wanted to go, but had  no time. I asked WHO buys them, 
he said they go to  Nagaland.
  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  At 7:09 PM -0500 6/18/07, kamal deka wrote:
  I am a Tinsukian in every sense of the meaning and very well-conversant with 
the language,including local dialects.Could anyone explain to me why these 
chillies are stratified as  bih jolokia,although they are certainly not 
poisonous? In my considered opinion,they are classified as bhoot jolokia 
perhaps because of this fact:---herou bih jolokia nekhabi,khale bhoot dekhi 
jabi bapeke.The name could very well be derived from the bhot tribe,but in 
day-to- day conversation,it appears to have a different connotation.Could it be 
possible that they are so- called in order to indicate the 'hotness' of these 
chillies rather than pointing towards the ' tribe' in question? It could be 
figurative rather than literal. BTW,these are also called ' kordoixira 
jolokia' and 'Noga jolokia' by some locals.But,in my view,these two varieties 
are a bit different from bhot/bhoot/bih jolokia. Regards,  KJD

   On 6/18/07, Priyankoo [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  I am from Tinsukia district, born and brought up there, never heard of bhoot 
jolokiya, though. It is true some people pronounce the o as u, but that 
does not make a ghost out of a tribe name, as far as the meaning is concerned.

It also does not justify the poor homework, on part of the correspondent!

best,
Priyankoo  

kamal deka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  In Ujoni Oxom ( in and around Tinsukia district ) ,the ' jolokias' in 
question are called ' bhoot jolokia or ' bih jolokia '.The name ' bhot jolokia' 
is perhaps unheard of in that part of the world. In Namoni Oxom ( Kamrup 
district in particular ), the chillies,in general, are called ' bhijlook'. 
KJD

   On 6/17/07, Pradip Kumar Datta [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  'Bhut jolokia is world's hottest chilli'
THE VICTOR, THE VANQUISHED
New Delhi, June 17: They are as tez as they come. The bhut jolokia or 'ghost 
chillies' of Tezpur figure in the Time Magazine's latest issue as the world's 
hottest chilli.
The magazine's cover story that takes a look at the culinary specialities and 
peculiarities around the world has zeroed in on the burnt orange pods, 
developed in a military laboratory in Tezpur, as packing the deadliest punch.
The article 'Global Warming' notes that the bhut jolokia, also called the Naga 
chilli, carries the sort of heat that one normally would find only in the 
hottest chilli sauces made from pure pepper extract.
Chilli heat is measured in Scoville Heat Units (SHUs), and while pure 
capsaicin, the main capsaicinoid in a chilli, measures 16 million SHUs, the 
ghost chilli measures just over one million SHUs. (PTI)
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Re: [Assam] Rongali Bihu celebrated at Silchar

[Mridul Bhuyan]

That's great. Never heard Bihu is celebrated in that part of Assam.
   
  Mridul Bhuyan

Pradip Kumar Datta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Rongali Bihu celebrated at Silchar
From Partha Sarkar
 SILCHAR, May 15 – Bihu dominates the cultural landscape of the entire State 
and this was reflected in Silchar town also on May 12 and 13. Bihu is being 
organised in Silchar town since 1950.

On the first day, the flag of the utsav was hoisted by Satyen Gogoi, president 
of celebration committee, which was followed by inauguration of cultural 
programme by Gautam Ganguli, DC, Cachar, Assam. On the first day there were 
lots of competitions in which people of the entire district participated. On 
May 12 evening the souvenir was release by eminent poet of this valley Aparupa 
Biswas. Anuradha Bharali and Debraj with his team from Guwahati participated in 
this festival.

In his presidential address Satyen Gogoi said that it was a great moment for us 
that Bihu festival is being organised after lots of hindrances. Bihu is the 
pride of the Assamese people and it should be a part of Silchar town. 

There is no difference between Barak Valley and the Brahmaputra Valley, 
otherwise Debojit Saha of Saregamapa fame could not have own. He further said 
that Bihu is a secular festival and all should come forward to be a part of 
this festival.

Karuna Thakuria, secretary of Rongali Bihu festival committee in Silchar said 
that there were lots of problems in organising this festival. But we have 
overcome all problems. Last year there was a small programme, this year it is a 
big and next year it will be grand programme, Thakuria said.

Dignitaries, such as Dinesh Prasad Goala, Minister for Urban Development and 
Bithika Dev, MLA and chairperson of Silchar Municipal Board, etc., were 
present. There were several competitions like Bihugeet, Bongeet, Bahi Badan, 
Gagana Badan, etc.

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Re: [Assam] End the Quota System?

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Hi,
   
  This is not an attempt to end the (reservation) quota system that was based 
on caste. In fact this will end up in reserving about 70% of seats in any 
educational institution/govt. services/private sector jobs for the backward 
classes. The begining of this issue dates back to Mandal Commission report in 
VP Singh's time. At present, all the major political parties support the 
proposed quota for OBC not because that'll help the really needy from the 
backward classes but for electoral gains. There has been largescale protests 
from the upper castes against this and some support for this from backward 
castes. The All India Institute of Medical Science in Delhi was paralysed for 
about a month in the past in protest of this and with the intervention of the 
judiciary the scenario returnned to normal. The left parties  BJP supports 
this reservation but with insertion of certain economic criteria in addition to 
caste criteria so that those people are benefieted who really needs it.
 It has been observed in the past that the quotas for the backward castes are 
mostly used by those economically sound people from the backward classes and so 
the real intention of reservation is lost.
   
  The sad thing in the current indian scenario is that in every single issue, 
the judiciary has to intervenn in the wrong policies adopted by the legislature 
and the legislature see foul in this and intrusion into their territory.
   
  Rgds
   
  Mridul Bhuyan  

Dilip/Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is this an attempt to end the (reservation) quota system that was based on 
caste? If the quota system is struck down, will it cause havoc among the 
beneficiaries of the reservation policies? 
  Did the quota system really help in empowering the BC and the OBC, or in due 
course of time under democracy it was going to happen anyway? Has it helped the 
masses or just a few of those who were socially handicapped before?
  Having been away from India for a long time, I do not have a good perception 
of the situation in today's India. My request is for someone in India to 
comment on the news item below so that we can all relate to the issue.
  Dilip Deka
  ===
  From the Sentinel
EDITORIAL » »
Last updated : MONDAY 21 MAY 2007  The Court’s Wisdom
We have said here times without number that it is the Judiciary that has 
rescued the people of this country from the whims and fancies of politicians. 
Had it not been for the Judiciary, our lawmakers, most of whom are also 
excellent lawbreakers, would have perhaps hijacked the nation and its people 
far beyond recoverable abyss. Whether the repeal of the notorious and 
discriminatory IM(DT) Act or the verdict that stayed the implementation of 27 
per cent OBC quota in higher educational institutions — to name only a few in 
recent times — it is the court’s wisdom that has saved this nation of ours from 
being plundered for petty electoral gains. So now as the Supreme Court Bench of 
Justice Arijit Pasayat and Justice PK Jain has referred the 27 per cent OBC 
quota case to a larger Bench on the grounds that the issue involved 
considerable importance of constitutional law having an impact on the entire 
nation and a larger Bench would have to examine whether the government had
 unbridled powers to perpetuate the reservation policies, the nation ought to 
pause for a while and ponder whether the political class has not already played 
havoc with the nation’s just course towards progress in the true sense of the 
term. The apex court’s message of Thursday is clear: that the lawmakers in the 
country just cannot make laws that address their narrow constituencies and aim 
to expand them, such as the casteist vote banks. 
Not only this. The court also said that the government could not adopt any 
‘‘bullying attitude’’ that could impinge on the fundamental rights of citizens. 
It pointed out that the government’s caste-based reservation policy seemed to 
be violative of various provisions like Articles 14, 15, 21 and 21 that 
guarantee fundamental rights. More important — and here is the real rebuke — 
the Bench of Justice Pasayat and Justice Jain felt that if the government 
really wanted to adopt a policy as such — for all-inclusive growth and 
development — it should have rather focused on ensuring compulsory education 
for illiterates, regardless of the caste barrier. The Bench also wanted to know 
as to why minority educational institutions should be exempted from the purview 
of the 27 per cent OBC quota policy. These are questions which the government 
of the day must answer in candid terms and then apologize for having taken the 
people of the country for a ride so shamelessly. Where is
 compulsory education irrespective of the caste barrier? What stops the 
government from evolving a policy to that end? Just because such a policy will 
not fetch votes or consolidate vote banks

Re: [Assam] IN ASSAM DOGS AND PUPPIES ARE KILLED FOR THEIR SKIN AND MEAT

[Mridul Bhuyan]

14/15 years back, one day, while I was dining at College of Vety. Sciences 
mess, Khanapara as a guest, few naga students were also dining with us. In 
addition to, the food provided by the hostel, these naga students were eating 
some black colored (thekera like thing) things in their plate. On enquiry, they 
said, that's dog's meat, which is put in a bamboo 'sunga' and kept above in the 
ceiling above the 'juixaal' for 2/3 years and final finished product is that 
black thing.
   
  Rgds.
   
  Mridul

Manoj Das [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks Himendrada, we'll do our bit.
   
  BTW Sashanka is VET working in NGO sector at Delhi.
   
  -manoj
 
  On 5/21/07, Himendra Thakur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Manoj,
   
  During my 4 year stay in Nagaland, I became close to my Naga friends, and I 
came to know that kukur-pitha was a lie --- it continues to be a lie today.
   
  It is a lie similar to what you see in the movie INDIANA JONES by George 
Lucas where Indians were shown as people who eat live snakes. 
   
  From time immemorial, people hurl ethnic slurs to demean others and glorify 
the self. India is full of this kind of ethnic slurs. These are the root of 
India's disunity and weakness. Very often, movies were used to spread ethnic 
insults. I remember a movie (by a Marathi producer) CHACHA CHOUDHARY that was 
directed against Gujarati   and South Indians. An exception was Uday Shankar's 
KALPANA where he protested against stereotyping people. Mahatma Gandhi was 
always against any ethnic slur. His article Lovely Assam will shine like a 
gem forever. 
   
  Our goal is to build a strong India for which we need complete extirpation of 
ethnic smearing. If the report is true, the interview at India TV by Sushri 
Maneka Gandhi adds up to betrayal of India. Her irresponsibility is paramount 
because she is a Member of Parliament, a member of BJP and a prominent national 
leader. 
   
  This is a very serious matter. Because of their hereditary features, people 
from Assam are already facing many problems in Delhi where they are identified 
with derogatory remarks such as chepta, etc. For the sake of future 
generations of the Assamese, the slur hurled by Sushri Maneka Gandhi must be 
nipped at the bud. This is as serious as the Grouping that was stopped by 
Gopinath Bordoloi in 1946, earning an international reputation of stubbornness. 
   
  As a Life-Member and Patron of Assam Association of Delhi, I propose action 
in the following sequence:
  (1)   Assam Association of Delhi should take leadership in confronting the 
irresponsible, anti-national and divisive lies of Sushri Maneka Gandhi 
  (2)   Before taking any action, Sushri Maneka Gandhi should be notified to 
explain, within 15 days, about the truth of the report.
  (3)   On expiry of 15 days, a PIL case should be filed on charges of 
anti-India activities against Sushri Maneka Gandhi and India TV under the 
provisions of the Constitution of India. 
  (4)   One thousand effigies of Maneka Gandhi should be burned all over Assam 
within a month. 
  (5)   Demands should be made to the Prime Minister Dr. Manmohan Singh to 
condemn Maneka Gandhi.
  (6)   Demand should be made to BJP to expel Maneka Gandhi from BJP, failing 
which, rallies should the held all over Assam and Delhi against BJP leadership. 
   
   
  It is a high time Assam should once again take a strong stand. Please let me 
know your opinion.
   
  I have facts about the lack of credibility of Sushri Maneka Gandhi, which 
I'll send to you after the 15 day notice mentioned above.
   
  With the best wishes,
  Himendra
   
  PS: For some reason not known to me, my membership at assamnet has been 
cancelled. Please post my letter whichever way you think the best.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Manoj Das 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Cc: Dr. Sashanka ; Ram Sarangapani ; NorthEastIndia ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 
assam@assamnet.org 
  Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 12:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [Assam] IN ASSAM DOGS AND PUPPIES ARE KILLED FOR THEIR SKIN AND 
MEAT
  
 
  It's 'kukur pitha'. But only eaten in Nagaland. Himendrada, with long years 
of service in Nagaland will be able to through some light and put the record 
straight.
   
  

 
  On 5/20/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   
Ram,

Let us not be coy about this ancient cultural trait of our people and let the 
good doctor know about his query, without doubt a truly altruistic and generous 
gesture to bring a little respite to the sufferings of our canine comrades. 

Dr. Sashanka, as you know, we are ashamed of our ancient pursuit of  this 
delectable culinary gem. That is why my esteemed colleague Ram is beating 
around the bush, not telling you like it is. The truth, doctor, is that it is 
as Assamese a custom as Bihu dancing, til-pitha khwa ( eating  sesame and 
juggery stuffed rice flour cakes), sunga-saul khowa ( rice cooked in green 
bamboo tubes over an open fire), eating 'bwnda-kesu-bhaji' ( 

Re: [Assam] PM wins record fourth RS term from Assam ( http://www.northeasttribune.com/6905.htm)

[Mridul Bhuyan]

I don't understand what this win means. He has never been able to win a single 
loksabha seat.
   
  Mridul

Buljit Buragohain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PM wins record fourth RS term from Assam  
   
  NET News Network   
   
  Guwahati, May 17: Prime Minister Manmohan Singh was today elected unopposed 
to the Rajya Sabha from Assam for a record fourth consecutive term in the Upper 
House of Parliament.  
  Assam assembly Secretary and Returning Officer G P Das said the Prime 
Minister was declared elected unopposed from one of two Rajya Sabha seats in 
the state as the third contestant, independant candidate Matang Sinh, withdrew 
from the race.  
  It is only due to my respect for the Prime Minister that I am withdrawing 
from the race, Singh, a former Union minister, said.  
  Singh and AGP's Kumar Deepak Das, the only two candidates in the fray, were 
declared elected unopposed much before the scheduled date for the polls of May 
24.  
  In his illustrious political career, Singh became Assam's representative to 
the Rajya Sabha for the first time in 1991. He has been elected to the House of 
elders from the state ever since.  
  During this period, he was the Union finance minister from 1991 to 1996 and 
ushered in economic reforms and liberalisation.  
  Singh became Prime Minister after Congress President Sonia Gandhi refused the 
post in 2004.  
  Kumar Deepak Das, the nominee of the main opposition Asom Gana Parishad and a 
former minister, earned his maiden entry to the Upper House. 
  Meanwhile, in a telephonic conversation with Assam Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi 
, Prime Minister has expressed his gratitude to the people of Assam and the 
member of Assam Legislative assembly for electing him consecutively for the 
fourth time
   
  http://www.northeasttribune.com/6905.htm

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Re: [Assam] End this disease called ULFA

[Mridul Bhuyan]

I have been following this debate for quite a long time. This time I think 
Chandan Da has definitely raised some valid points. Looking forward to the 
response from others.
   
  Rgds.
   
  Mridul Bhuyan

Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Mohan:
  

  If the two hoots can bring some boys back home and bring them to the  
mainstream of life. I do not mind being ridiculed
  

  *** I wouldn't either.  However, what are the chances ? I would think 
offering of a puja at an important
  temple will hold a higher potential :-). That is the point I was trying to 
drive home; the ineffectiveness or more precisely the absence of realism in the 
various posts by netters who could expected to be far more
  result oriented than their proposals indicate. I don't devalue your 
good-will. That is all very good. But good-will or good-wishes sans realism 
will do little to cure that 'mohamari' that you all have been railing against.
  

  

  

  You have been prolifically writing hate words towards India.  

  

  *** I think you are misusing the English language here Mohan. Will you be 
able to point out WHICH words in my posts you can consider HATE WORDS against 
India, or for that matter against anybody else; people, state, culture or 
religion?
  

  Yes, I do write a lot of critical things about India. But that is different 
from HATE.  And if you find those criticisms  untrue, unfair or otherwise 
unwarranted, then all you need to demolish them, putting me in my place, is to 
point them out. Rebut. Refute.  It is good for you to try that. Because you 
will need to do your homework to do so, and in the process will become more 
informed.
  

  I know you are a well-meaning person. I will never take offense with such 
rebuttals or showing netters how or why I am wrong. It will actually be a 
PLEASURE to see someone doing that CREDIBLY and EFFECTIVELY .  Would 
demonstrate a sincerity of purpose and instill pride in my fellowmen's 
abilities.
  

  

  I do not have a islamic paranoia. I have both Pakistani and Bangladeshi  
friends. I would any day like a free and  open trade between these
countries and a open border.  

  *** Who would not? Even Narendra Modi  would love to do that :-). But that 
does not prove or disprove anything.
  

  

Remember, I did not say Pakistani's or Bangladeshi's. I specifically said  
ISIThis is a militant organization with extreme hate towards India.
  Ido not support any form of violence or extremism.
  

  *** I would not badger you on this, only because I know you mean well. But I 
also know very well where the ISI-paranoia  amongst desis spring from. It has 
everything do with deeply-rooted Hindu /Muslim bigotries and animus so 
pervasive in north, central, west and south India, translated to ownership 
pretenses of Kashmir, never mind what the Kashmiris who call it home want, 
leading to the Pakistan/India conflicts that gave rise to ISI and Jihad and has 
escalated into today's Islamic and Hindu militancy.
  

  Assam and the contiguous states and Bengal , barring the Hindu Siletis 
displaced from today's B'desh,
  have been relatively free of that debilitating desi condition.  Only in 
recent years, thanks to Hindian influences, compounded by the GoI propaganda  
to discredit ULFA, has this ISI paranoia
  begun to take root in Assam. It is in the exact same vein as that of the CIA 
paranoia during the cold-war. Only now we have begun to learn how overblown it 
was.
  

  I don't dispute the fact of ISI's dirty record. So is RAW's. But ISI cannot 
be THAT powerful.  ISI today is the code-word for demonizing everything 
associated with Islam.  And its cultivated fear is an essential GLUE to hold 
the tattered bonds of Indian nationalism together.
  

  

  This is what ULFA has done for Assam. The rest of the country has grown in
leaps and bounds. But Assam is still miles behind. Its growth fettered by  
this cankerous grwoth called ULFA.
  

  

  *** That argument is another propaganda designed by Indians and Indian 
apologist Oxomiyas.  How will you answer to the question of  Assam's condition 
BEFORE  ULFA happened?  Why was it so?
  

  Can you tell me, with a straight face that if ULFA disappeared today, 
tomorrow Assam's prosperity will take off the ground ? That its problems will 
disappear like a bad dream?  Think about that Mohan.
  

  

  How come in this net only you speak for the ULFA, as if you can read their  
minds and speak on their behalf?
  

  *** First off, I don't speak FOR ULFA. Nor am I a mind-reader, ULFA's or 
others'.  But I am informed. And my information is not based on Indian 
propaganda or Assam establishment's propaganda.
  

  It used to be that I too thought and spoke like you guys regarding ULFA at 
one time. But pretty soon I began to see, right here thru Assamnet what has 
been going on . And I dug deeper. More I sought, more I found. And thus my 
entire outlook changed to where it is today. 
  

  That is why I wrote

Re: [Assam] Angel dancing bihu in Delhi bihutoli

[Mridul Bhuyan]

This little angel performed solo also in the 'Rongali Bihu' organised by Assam 
Association, Gurgaon on 15th April, 2007. She was extraordinary. Three cheers 
to her. Her name is Pakhi Saikia, daughter of Sri Hemanta Saikia, a well known 
singer from Assam.
   
  Regards
   
  Mridul Bhuyan

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Delightful. Congratulations to these young Assamese artists of the 
capital. Three cheers to the organisers  and the parents.
   
  Bhuban
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Re: [Assam] Mukul Mahanta's Bamboo Furniture Photos

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Chan Da,
   
  Simply stunning. Will u allow me to post some of the photos in one of our 
yahoo groups, of course the name will be yours ? 
   
  Regards
   
  Mridul

Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have just uploaded 12 images of highly affordable but ergonomically 
designed
  bamboo furniture by Mukul Mahanta at :
  

  http://www.flickr.com/photos/cmahanta-stl/
  

  

  Enjoy.
  

  cm
  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  Nothing can make MORE SENSE than this proposal. It does not require great 
skills, does not require sophisticated machinery or tools, does not require 
huge capital expenditures, does not require large factory structures, does not 
even need an un-inturrpted power/energy supply. All it requires is design 
ingenuity, which is available , waiting to be exploited.
  

  It demonstrates once again the paralysis of Indian governance, one that has 
usurped the role of protector and provider to all, while failing miserably at 
every step.
  

  I don't know if the photographs went thru to the list. If netters tell me, 
and if they did no go thru, I will post them at Flick'r for all to see. 
Pictures tell the story far better than words ever will.
  

  cm
  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  At 4:59 PM +0530 3/7/07, mc mahant wrote:
  My 1990 declaration in BOODHBAR(Late Parag Daas')that Assam's future will be 
through Saah,Baanh,Maah,Ghaanh got widely debated and overpublished/Underacted 
through the formation of National Bamboo Mission(NBM).
   Located at Delhi, NBM's bevy of beauties went worldwide attending seminars 
,employing Consultants , importing Taiwan/China/Japan machinery - now wasting 
at many  NBM backed Units.
  Lately Bodoland Delegation was in China chaperoned by(you guessed it)NBM 's 
many consultants.
  At one time -some 8 years back NEDFi's --Dr. Jayanta Madhab + our Dear Manoj 
Das went with Secret Service Delegates to China--also on related Mission Bamboo.
  I  thought nothing would happen TILL!
  But ever optimistic Manoj goaded me to give one more try. I presented a plan 
to Dr.JM-this time as Assam Govt's New Employment Generating Minister(de Facto) 
to RE- kickstart OXOM Bamboo.
   Begin by  marketing my Wonderbed/Wonder Chair kits  India-wide where they 
will make their Steel frames with tiny investments  Districtwise, and bind 
Oxom-originated BambooKits to frames and sell to local 1 lakh Janata. Everybody 
would have gained. 1 such assemly points would shape up.
  Saved trees, import by India for Petro-Plastics would have fallen - small 
low-Tech Distributed Industry all over India would have boomed.
   By the way--the Minister who is supposed to develop the NE and to increase 
Employment all-over India is the same Mani Shankar Aiyar.
  JM kept quiet. So I told Manoj--Ask your NEDFi boss to bell the 
cat--otherwise National Bamboo Mission will be another farce
  Poor Manoj has his limits. He did pass on. K.HAZARIKA did a little move.When 
I asked -What's up-he said in true IndianeseWe should make a small start. 
And: NeDFi cannot be in the Entreprenuer's seat.
  That is the State of the Art today!
  Like SEZ's, India is waiting for a brave Knight with lots of Dollars to come  
in and take charge-of everything-including Governing.
  
   Note:, barring seasonal Tea ,thousands of Trucks/Rail wagons return empty to 
all-over -- daily.
  Kits can go any way. Furniture cannot. Freight of 1 WonderChair would 
beRs500/-+. But MRP should be 200/-!!That is why KITS  is a must.
  MM

-
From: Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Dilip/Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rajib Das [EMAIL 
PROTECTED],assam@assamnet.org
Subject: Re: [Assam] Engineered Bamboo Furniture
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:23:41 -0600

blockquote, dl, ul, ol, li {padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;}  First off, you 
got it mixed up again:  
  Rajib was NOT speaking about manufactured goods. He was talking about  the 
raw material : bamboo.  
  
   Also I wouldn't be surprised if today's transportation cost from Assam to 
Delhi is higher than that between China and Delhi due to all the gate fees and 
goonda fees one pays in Assam.  
  *** So it is the MIDDLEMEN . Goonda-tax / gate charges are NOT charged by the 
growers if I am not mistaken. Then WHO is it? And where is the benevolent 
Indian governance -- is it not supposed to PREVENT that?  
  Oh, I see now! It must be the ULFA!!!  
  Are you serious?  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  At 12:16 PM -0800 3/5/07, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote:  
  OMG!
  There is no government control in domestic furniture business and it is a 
free market in India at least in furniture.
  The furniture dealer in Delhi knows only profit, he does not care about 
politics between Assam and India. He sells the products for which he can make 
the maximum profit - based on quality of the product, ready availability and 
reliable supply. The product may come from China or from Assam, he doesn't care 
and doesn't have to.
  The 

Re: [Assam] Mukul Mahanta's Bamboo Furniture Photos

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Thanks Chan Da.
   
  Regards
   
  Mridul

Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please do Mridul. I did not take Mukul da's furniture pictures. 
Somebody else did. The other pictures of Assam are min however.
  

  c-da
  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  At 11:26 AM -0800 3/7/07, Mridul Bhuyan wrote:
  Chan Da, Simply stunning. Will u allow me to post some of the photos in 
one of our yahoo groups, of course the name will be yours ? Regards 
Mridul

Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have just uploaded 12 images of highly affordable but ergonomically 
designed  bamboo furniture by Mukul Mahanta at :  
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/cmahanta-stl/  
  
  Enjoy.  
  cm  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Nothing can make MORE SENSE than this proposal. It does not require great 
skills, does not require sophisticated machinery or tools, does not require 
huge capital expenditures, does not require large factory structures, does not 
even need an un-inturrpted power/energy supply. All it requires is design 
ingenuity, which is available , waiting to be exploited.  
  It demonstrates once again the paralysis of Indian governance, one that has 
usurped the role of protector and provider to all, while failing miserably at 
every step.  
  I don't know if the photographs went thru to the list. If netters tell me, 
and if they did no go thru, I will post them at Flick'r for all to see. 
Pictures tell the story far better than words ever will.  
  cm  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  At 4:59 PM +0530 3/7/07, mc mahant wrote:
  My 1990 declaration in BOODHBAR(Late Parag Daas')that Assam's future will be 
through Saah,Baanh,Maah,Ghaanh got widely debated and overpublished/Underacted 
through the formation of National Bamboo Mission(NBM).
 Located at Delhi, NBM's bevy of beauties went worldwide attending seminars 
,employing Consultants , importing Taiwan/China/Japan machinery - now wasting 
at many  NBM backed Units.
  Lately Bodoland Delegation was in China chaperoned by(you guessed it)NBM 's 
many consultants.
  At one time -some 8 years back NEDFi's --Dr. Jayanta Madhab + our Dear Manoj 
Das went with Secret Service Delegates to China--also on related Mission Bamboo.
  I  thought nothing would happen TILL!
  But ever optimistic Manoj goaded me to give one more try. I presented a plan 
to Dr.JM-this time as Assam Govt's New Employment Generating Minister(de Facto) 
to RE- kickstart OXOM Bamboo.
   Begin by  marketing my Wonderbed/Wonder Chair kits  India-wide where they 
will make their Steel frames with tiny investments  Districtwise, and bind 
Oxom-originated BambooKits to frames and sell to local 1 lakh Janata. Everybody 
would have gained. 1 such assemly points would shape up.
  Saved trees, import by India for Petro-Plastics would have fallen - small 
low-Tech Distributed Industry all over India would have boomed.
   By the way--the Minister who is supposed to develop the NE and to increase 
Employment all-over India is the same Mani Shankar Aiyar.
  JM kept quiet. So I told Manoj--Ask your NEDFi boss to bell the 
cat--otherwise National Bamboo Mission will be another farce
  Poor Manoj has his limits. He did pass on. K.HAZARIKA did a little move.When 
I asked -What's up-he said in true IndianeseWe should make a small start. 
And: NeDFi cannot be in the Entreprenuer's seat.
  That is the State of the Art today!
  Like SEZ's, India is waiting for a brave Knight with lots of Dollars to come  
in and take charge-of everything-including Governing.
  
 
  Note:, barring seasonal Tea ,thousands of Trucks/Rail wagons return empty to 
all-over -- daily.
  Kits can go any way. Furniture cannot. Freight of 1 WonderChair would 
beRs500/-+. But MRP should be 200/-!!That is why KITS  is a must.
  MM

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From: Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Dilip/Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rajib Das [EMAIL 
PROTECTED],assam@assamnet.org
Subject: Re: [Assam] Engineered Bamboo Furniture
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:23:41 -0600

blockquote, dl, ul, ol, li {padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;}
  First off, you got it mixed up again:  
  
  Rajib was NOT speaking about manufactured goods. He was talking about  the 
raw material : bamboo.
  
  
   Also I wouldn't be surprised if today's transportation cost from Assam to 
Delhi is higher than that between China and Delhi due to all the gate fees and 
goonda fees one pays in Assam.
  
  *** So it is the MIDDLEMEN . Goonda-tax / gate charges are NOT charged by the 
growers if I am not mistaken. Then WHO is it? And where is the benevolent 
Indian governance -- is it not supposed to PREVENT that?
  
  Oh, I see now! It must be the ULFA!!!
  
  Are you serious?
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  At 12:16 PM -0800 3/5/07, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote:
  
  OMG!
  There is no government control in domestic furniture business and it is a 
free market in India at least in furniture.
  The furniture dealer in Delhi knows only profit, he does

Re: [Assam] A different kind of visit to Assam

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Dear Ram Da, Alpana Ba,
   
  It's great. Your visit might have helped those ppl in some way or the other. 
Please keep it up.
   
  Regards
   
  Mridul

Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We just came back from Assam from a short trip. Trips are always short, 
even though we spent a few days more than usual. 
   
  This trip was a bit different as it was one of the most fulfilling ones we 
have had. We ignored the usual frustrations with erratic power supply, or the 
fact that phone service is just as bad, or of the traffic congestions etc, etc. 
This time we availed the opportunity to visit a few places where a few people 
are making a big difference in the lives of many. 
   
  Snehalaya
   
  Some of you must have already heard of Snehalaya and of Fr. Lukose of Don 
Bosco. Chandan da had introduced netters to Snehalaya and about the excellent 
work that Fr. Lukose and some volunteers (including a young lady from 
California) are doing.
  Snehalaya has several centers in Guwahati, and is basically a shelter for 
abandoned or runaway children who have no place to go. The centers provide 
food, shelter, and clothing for these children. Many of the older children go 
to school during the day. The center also provides a place where the children 
get involved in extra-curricular activities, such as , learning to cook, 
singing and dancing, reading and writing, and generally try to take care of 
themselves.
  Fr. Lukose and his small band of volunteers pick up these children from the 
streets of Guwahati and bring them to their shelters. 
  During our visit, the children sang a beautiful song, welcoming us, and the 
girls danced to a song that was beautifully choreographed.
  The glint of hope in the eyes of those children managed to put a big lump in 
our throats and made us wonder whether we had let our lives go by just like 
that. 
   
  Parijat Academy
   
  We were introduced to Parijat and its founder Uttom Teron through a video 
presentation by Ankur Bora of Austin (at Rajen Barua's home). 
  So, we made plans to visit the academy at Guwahati. Alpana also made sure to 
pack some children's books, puzzles, and flash cards. These we understand 
(later) were a big hit with the children. 
  The academy now has 54 young children, and 8 (mostly volunteers) teachers. 
The entire Teron family has put their hearts and souls in making sure that the 
poor and unfortunate in the surrounding 7 tribal villages have a place where 
their children can get some basic education. 
   
  As it was the year-end, we could not, of course, meet any of the children, 
but we could hear their laughter and playfulness through the thin, mud walls of 
the couple of classrooms. 
  The Teron family also invited us to a fabulous lunch (baali-bhat) – cooked 
outside, and we ate under the trees. This was just out of this world, and their 
hospitality knew no bounds. 
  Alpana tried to hone in some new skills by trying out dhaan-jara etc.
  We are also trying to organize an agricultural project for the future, so 
that the academy can earn some operating expenses in the long run and the 
children can get some hands-on experience.. 
  Parijat is located in Gorchuk, Pamohi in Guwahati. Here is their Web site 
again (we had got this address from Ankur before): 
  http://www.parijatacademy.org/ 
   
  Ashadeep
   
  Mukul and Anjana Goswami run Ashadeep, a rehab for mentally challenged women. 
They have several centers, and even a day school. 
  The women are housed in a safe and secure environment. Besides some 
mental-health help, the women are taught some basic survival skills, where 
possible. 
  Both Mukul and Anjana, along with their small group of people, work 
tirelessly and often way into the night. 
  I have kept in touch with Mukul for a number of years. He has related some of 
the most poignant stories of mental illness. Many of the people working at 
Ashadeep (including the Goswamis) often cannot draw a paycheck, but there is a 
tacit understanding and the urge to help out each other when necessary, but all 
the while making sure the rehab is run smoothly. 
  We visited their locations at Silpukhuri and Fatasil, Guwahati.
  Here is their Web site: 
  http://www.giveworld.org/ashadeep/ashadeep_profile.htm 

  Amar Ghor
   
  As some of you may be aware Amar Ghor is a shelter for elderly women.  Ms. 
Rini Kakati wrote about this shelter some time ago in this forum. The shelter 
was established by Ms. Suchibrata RoyChoudhury (daughter of Sri.Ambikagiri 
RoyChoudhury). This is probably the first of its kind in Assam, and it was an 
eye-opener to realize that Ms. RoyChoudhury had the foresight to establish such 
a center.
   
  Many of the women in the center are able live there comfortably, and without 
being a burden on their families. 
  One wishes there were many more centers like this throughout Assam.
   
  Right at the beginning, we mentioned that the trip was 'different'. It was 
different because of the many 

Re: [Assam] EPIGENESIS 2007

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Please do that.
   
  Regards
   
  Mridul Bhuyan

Shantikam Hazarika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am enclosing the paper presented by Mr. Wahid Saleh in the
conference on 30th January. I shall try to forward other presentations
too, if netters are interested.
Regrads
Shantikam Hazarika
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Re: [Assam] IIT Guwahatis annual fest Alcheringa from Feb 1(http://www.alcheringa.org/)

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Can somebody provide me with the email id or contact number of Mr. Mainul Haque?
   
  Mridul

Buljit Buragohain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  1st Feb:

Mime Show - a theatrical performance in mime
featuring Mainul Haque

Purple Haze - the jazz night
featuring Prasanna, Karl Peters and Adrian D'Souza

2nd Feb:

Saaz - the classical music night
featuring Pt. Tarun Bhattacharya, Pt. Debashish Bhattacharya and Pt.
Subrata Bhattacharya

3rd Feb:

Wah Wah - Hasya Kavi Sammelan
featuring Sabras Hathrasi, Deepak Gupta, Pawan Dikshit and Kavita Kiran

Juggernaut - the rock night
featuring Sceptre

4th Feb:

Crescendo - the popular night
featuring Remo Fernandes


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Re: [Assam] Loss of your First Cousin

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Dear Das,
   
  Very sorry to hear the sad news. May the departed soul rest in peace.
   
  Mridul

umesh sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
May his soul rest in peace and culprits be punished.
   
  Umesh

Barua, Rajen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Monoj:
  Sorry to hear about your personal loss of your first cousin Mr.. Jagannath 
Chootia.
  Condolence to the aggrieved family.
  Hope the GOA will commentate adequately for the sacrifice.
  Rajen Barua
   


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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Manoj Das
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 11:36 AM
To: ASSAMNET
Subject: [Assam] Assamese boy Martyred in Bastar


  
Mr. Jagannath Chootia from Bordoloni, Dist. Dhemaji, Assam was killed in an 
ambush in the remote  Narayanpur area of Bastar  district  in Chattisgarh 
yeaterday between 3-4 pm. Alongwith him OC, Shri Vikas Chander from Bihar and 5 
other constables belonging to Chattisgarh police were also annihilated. 
Jagannath joined 43rd CRPF as constable  in 1991. He was posted most of the 
time at JK and took part in anti insurgency operations there. 

Apparently they have fallen into a trap laid by the Naxalites. Sources with 
CRPF say that the patrol team in which Jagannath was a part of, went to 
retrieve the bodies of a few policemen killed by the ultras in another ambush. 
They were ambushed at the same site, and all of them died on the spot. 

His body will be flown to Guwahati tomorrow from Raipur enroute Delhi and taken 
to his village in Dhemaji district by road. He is survived by his 2 and half 
years old son and wife. His mother is quite old and father who was a 
Rashtrapati awardee teacher expired a few years back of a sudden heart attack. 

His sacrifice may contribute to make a strong India. He was my first cousin and 
I am proud of him.
-- 
Manoj Kumar Das
New Delhi
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Re: [Assam] We Need Your Help

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Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Dear Sunu:

Looking forward to seeing you and staying with you in late January. More later.

n





Dear Friends and Wellwishers of Assam:



PETITION TO SAVE THE NAME OF ASSAM



On 15th December 2006, the State Assembly of Assam adopted a

resolution by voice vote to write the name of the State of Assam as

'Asom'. No argument or reasoning was given for the name change, nor

any debate was allowed in spite of requests from the opposition. We are

starting a general campaign to oppose the government of Assam's

resolution to change the name of the state from Assam to Asom.



We, a number of friends and well wishers of Assam living in and outside

the state are shocked to see the above news report, and hereby

register our strong opposition to this entirely unwarranted move on

the part of the State Legislature. For this we are circulating the

attached petition all over the world to collect signatures from those

who support our move.



We would like you to support our effort to retain the present name

Assam. You may sign the petition, simply by 
furnishing the information mentioned at the end 
of this mail.



It would be of immense help to us if you would be kind enough to

forward this e-mail to your friends who might be willing to support

this cause.



You are welcome to give your valuable suggestions if any, regarding the

petition or any other issues.



The letter will also be addressed separately to Mr. Brindaban Goswami,

the Opposition Leader, Assam Assembly, as well as copied to the Prime

Minister's and Home Minister's office.



The petition will be mailed on 1st January 2007 with the first set of

Signatures. So please send your replies to us at least by 30th December 2006.



Sincerely yours,

Chandan Mahanta
St. Louis, USA
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- The Map of Bengale published in 1662.


http://www.indiawijzer.nl/links/assam/map_of_bengale.jpg



- Letter of Joan Maetsuyker, Governor General of Dutch Batavia, 29-08-1663


http://indiawijzer.nl/links/assam/letter_to_mirzumala_1.jpg



- Treaty of Yandaboo, 24-02-1826

http://projectsouthasia.sdstate.edu/Docs/history/primarydocs/Treaties/Burma/002.htm



- Website link with more articles on this issue:

http://www.indiawijzer.nl/links/assam/assam_or_asom.htm

**

I oppose the resolution to change the name of the 
state from Assam to Asom, and hereby give my 
consent to put my name as a signatory to the 
petition.

Full name: Mridul Bhuyan



Name of Spouse (optional)

Ashalata Bhuyan

City

Gurgaon

Country
India


E-mail address

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please reply to this e-mail with a copy to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
. Rajen Barua, Katy, Texas, USA, is coordinating 
the compilation of the names of the signatories 
and mailing the petition to the Chief Minister of 
Assam.


***

To

Mr. Tarun Gogoi

Honorable Chief Minister of Assam,

Sachibalaya, Dispur, Assam 781006



Dated Houston 1st January, 2007

Sub: State Assembly’s Resolution to Change the name of Assam to Asom.

Dear Sir:

On 15th December, 2006, the State Assembly of 
Assam adopted a resolution by voice vote to write 
the name of the State of Assam as 'Asom'. No 
argument or reasoning was given for the name 
change, nor any debate was allowed in spite of 
requests from the opposition.

We are a number of friends and well wishers of 
Assam living in and outside the state, who are 
shocked to see the above news report. We hereby 
register our strong opposition to this entirely 
unwarranted move on the part of the State 
Legislature for the following reasons:

1. The State’s name is not 
something for changing in as casual a fashion as 
it has been done, without a thorough and 
informed public discussion and debate. It was 
never a mandate of the people. Even the 
Opposition parties’ demand for a debate was 
summarily cut off in a highly undemocratic 
fashion.

2. The Legislature did not 
give a credible set of reasons for the change 
from the internationally well-recognized name 
'Assam' to'Asom'. In these days of 
'globalization', to dilute and muddy Assam's 
international name recognition is entirely 
counterproductive.

3. There is clear historical 
evidence that the name of 'Assam' is not a coined 
word by the British but which had been there long 
before the British signed the Treaty of Yandaboo 
on 24th February 1826 and used the word Assam in 
the treaty. Even from the Ahom Buronjis, we find 
that the Moghols used the name ‘Ashyam’ for the 
state. The same is also evident from the various 
historical documents from the Moghol period and 
Dutch chronicles of pre-British period. In 
Persian publications of Moghol period, like 
Akbarnama (1542-1605), Padshah-Namah (1627-1647), 
Alamgir-Namah (1657-1667) and Tarikh-I Mulk-I 
Áshám

Re: [Assam] Student helpline/what a shame

[Mridul Bhuyan]

 There will be a website providing information to aspiring students.  This will be really helpful to all the aspiring students from Assam.MridulMomy Saikia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi All,There will be a website providing information to aspiring students.And please stop making a topic out of my mails.it was meant for a good cause which some "great minds" failed to realise and I donot complainJUST A REQUEST TO THE OLDER SECTION OF THIS COMMUNITYDONOT ENVY THE YOUNG FOR THEIR ACHEIVEMENTS AT AN AGE WHEN YOU WERE STILL PLANNING.AND PEOPLE I DO EXISTI AM WHO I SAY..AIN'T AN IMPOSTERSOMEONE SEEMS TO BE SCEPTICAL ABOUT MY IDENTITY.DO DROP ME A "NICE" MAIL REQUESTING FOR MY CONTACT
 NUMBER OR A RENDEZVOUS AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO REPLY...I AIN'T A MILLITANT TO STAY VEILEDANYWAYS, REST ASSURE, THERE WILL BE A WEBSITE...AND AM NOT AT THE LEAST INTERESTED IN ALL YOUR OPINIONS ABOUT ME ( ESP. MR MAHANTA)...YOU ARE AT YOUR LIBERTY TO WASTE YOUR TIME BUT I HAVE JOB TO DOAND EXPECTATIONS TO MEETCAUSE PEOPLE DO HAVE EXPECTATIONS FROM ME AS THEY KNOW I WILL NOT DISAPPOINT THEM.KIND REGARDSMOMY_Windows Live™ Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb___assam mailing listassam@assamnet.orghttp://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org 
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Re: [Assam] Now from Tehelka

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Dear Chandan Da,Thanks for the concern. My son was having viral fever and due to the outbreak of Dangue in Delhi, I was concerned and was busy in doing various pathological tests. Now, he is fine.Well, my perspective on the issue is:To find the root of the problem, one need to go back to the history. People from various places of India have migrated to this city in search of livelihood. After independence, people who fled Pakistan were allotted lands in Delhi in locations like Lajpat Nagar, Greater Kailash,
 Chittaranjan Park, Malviya Nagar etc., which have now become posh locations with a premium price tag attached to it. If u have a plot in one of these locations u need not have any other means to lead a comfortable life.As per the original master plan of Delhi, these places were earmarked as locations meant for residential purpose. However, due to centrality of these locations, these locations started having very lucrative commercial value and the residents started using these locations for various commercial activities with the connivance of DDA
 officials. Secondly, various people (people who do not have much education) from other parts of India have come to Delhi in search of livelihood, who do not have any other means to survive in this costly city and lives in jhugi-jhupris, which have become the source of criminal  illegal activities. In absence of any other means to survive they started opening shops  began commercial activities illegally on road sides, obstructing the roads, which in turn creates havocs as far as traffic is concerned.However, few years back the
 RWAs (Resident Welfare Associations) started protesting against these activities and the supreme court started interfering in these illegal activities and ordered demolition of these illegal structures and sealing of the properties used for commercial activities. The sealing of these properties have raised large protests from the people using their residences for commercial activities and for quite sometime now and have disrupted normal life in Delhi. As per the protestors, the sealings have threatened their livelihood and they shall oppose it with every possible means, which have led to the untoward incidents like in Sheelampur. Now, Delhi Govt. in order to sort out things proposed changes in the master plan and proposed allowing commercial activities in some of the areas and the supreme court as well as the RWAs have objected to these proposed changes in master plan. The traders say that all this have happened due to the nexus between the lobby of the mall owners with
 the Govt. of Delhi.Now, who is to blame??? That’s the great question. As far as the slum dwellers are concerned the Govt. can do a lot better. Instead of playing politics, alternative arrangements such as low cost housing can be arranged for these people with the huge revenue the Municaipal Corporation of Delhi is earning and the huge grants received from the GOI.Regarding commercial activities in locations like Greater Kailash, Malviya Nagar, Sheelampur and so many areas of
 Delhi, the DDA and its corrupted officials are to be blamed for permitting these commercial activities to grow. However, all these traders are far better-off then most of the other people and they may be allotted commercial spaces by planning some malls in the city, for which Delhi have ample spaces.   Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Good to hear from you Mridul. No, I was not worried that you or others in Dilli would be offended. I am worried about my ex-pat friends with delicate sensitivities :-).But I will be very interested in
 hearing about your perspective on things.In the meantime all the best to whoever is not well. I hope it is nothing serious.c-daAt 1:12 AM -0700 10/1/06, Mridul Bhuyan wrote:  Dear Chandan Da,Atleast my feeling is not hurt. I'll write back in details in a few days as rightnow, I am busy due to some medical urgency.RegardsMridulChan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 My apologies if I am hurting anyone's feelings here :-), but what onearth is going on in Dilli?Come-on Kharkhowas from Dilli, would you give us your perspectives or not?cmEDIT-OPINIONhttp://www.fromallangles.com/newspapers/country/india/tehelka.com.htmOpinionLambs at the Law's GuillotineThe new elite desire cities cleansed of the 'mess' that comes withdemocracy. The judiciary and the media have dutifully beheadedDelhi's poorNivedita Menon  Aditya NigamIn a leading English daily, a congratulatory report on "the improvedquality of air in Delhi" after slum demolitions was jubilantlyendorsed a day later by a letter from a worthy citizen who hadnoticed this too. But, alas, this is scarcely enough. All is not wellin Delhi-en-route-to-Paris. There is bad news on the teledensityfront. On the very morning of the day that was to see police
 firingon massive protests against the sealing of hundreds of small shops i

Re: [Assam] Now from Tehelka

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Dear Chandan Da,Atleast my feeling is not hurt. I'll write back in details in a few days as rightnow, I am busy due to some medical urgency.RegardsMridulChan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  My apologies if I am hurting anyone's feelings here :-), but what on earth is going on in Dilli?Come-on Kharkhowas from Dilli, would you give us your perspectives or not?cmEDIT-OPINIONhttp://www.fromallangles.com/newspapers/country/india/tehelka.com.htmOpinionLambs at the Law's GuillotineThe new elite desire cities cleansed of the 'mess' that comes with democracy. The judiciary and the media have dutifully beheaded Delhi's poorNivedita Menon 
 Aditya NigamIn a leading English daily, a congratulatory report on "the improved quality of air in Delhi" after slum demolitions was jubilantly endorsed a day later by a letter from a worthy citizen who had noticed this too. But, alas, this is scarcely enough. All is not well in Delhi-en-route-to-Paris. There is bad news on the teledensity front. On the very morning of the day that was to see police firing on massive protests against the sealing of hundreds of small shops in Seelampur, concerned newspaper readers learnt from a front-page report in another daily that even "strife-torn Sri Lanka" has crossed the 17 percent "mobile teledensity" mark, while in India the teledensity in rural areas is "roughly where it was at Independence". Shame.Two days prior to this, a small news report on the inside pages stated that a washerman, Satan Singh, allegedly threatened to kill an official of the Gurgaon
 administration at her residence. He used to come regularly to her house to collect laundry, but had reportedly lost his mental balance after his house was demolished in a drive conducted by her department a few weeks earlier.Psychiatrists from institutions like vimhans have been reporting an increasing incidence of depression "that is pushing several towards suicide and extreme reactions". For every one person who comes to the notice of vimhans, there are hundreds of others who cannot, and about whom we will only know when something untoward happens. They are the Satan Singhs who will increasingly haunt Indian cities of the future, leaving the elite nervous about stopping their cars at traffic lights for fear of being robbed or killed, and forcing them to enjoy their fresh air within the confines of high-security, gated neighbourhoods.Far-fetched? But this is precisely the scenario in many South American
 cities since the 1980s, and in most big cities of that great dreamland of the Indian elite, the USA. According to recent studies of Brazilian cities, since the 1970s, urban inequality and exclusion in places like Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro have been steadily increasing. Forced removal of people from the countryside in the 80s contributed to the swelling of an already crowded urban periphery. Fear of crime has become the overwhelming national problem. Terrified middle and upper classes have sought refuge in high-security buildings. As Gianpaolo Baiocchi has pointed out, the most recent, must-have item for wealthy elites is a helicopter - one of the growing fleet of personal helicopters that crowd Sao Paulo's skyline at sunset as businesspeople avoid traffic and crime below.The celebratory party of the Indian elite, however, continues, unmindful of the explosive situation that is developing all around us.
 Propelled by a judiciary with no accountability and a media that is deeply implicated in this new game, there has emerged a technocratic elite which desires hypermodern cities cleansed of all the 'mess' and 'irrationality' that comes with democracy and the people.But who are the hundreds of thousands who need to be driven out of the cities? Where do they all come from? They come from another India, where the cataclysmic crisis of agriculture has produced farmers' suicides in alarming numbers, while those who do not kill themselves drift into the margins of cities. These ghosts haunting urban slums are not characters in that best-selling story, the one in which the heroes are mall-builders, or telephone companies and mobile-toting shoppers heroically raising the nation's teledensity. They are the tragic heroes of another story, one punctuated by police firings.Tribal people displaced by mining interests in
 Kalinga Nagar, Orissa (police firing). Farmers of Dadri, Uttar Pradesh, who lost their lands when the government acquired them cheaply to be handed over to a private company (police firing). Fisherfolk thrown out of their livelihood by the construction of the Gangavaram port in Vishakhapatnam (police firing).Not to mention the thousands driven off their land to destitution by big dams past and future, and from lost towns like Harsud, drowned by the Indira Sagar dam on the Narmada. All of them pouring relentlessly into the cities. Who can stop this avalanche of development refugees? The judiciary ensures, and sections of the media celebrate, the dispossession of Indian 

Re: [Assam] AT: Who runs ULFA????????Seeking answers???

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Why can't these individuals stay back and try to change the situation? Are u sure about ur perception?And ASOMIYA's in Higher echeleons of Natun Dilli --- for them it seems they are actually from North India or Bengal. Only concern seems to be to jerk off that asomiya climbing below me in the ladder.  Is it right to make a general statement?Think about it? :)RegardsMridul  muktikam phukan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Problem lies in our educated people migrating to
 USA and other greener pastures after getting full advantage of the govt provided educational infrastructure (whatever little is available).  Why can't these individuals stay back and try to change the situation?   Left behind are those people who actually has to shout slogans once in a while to get a refinery, a tea auction centre, an IIT et al.  And ASOMIYA's in Higher echeleons of Natun Dilli --- for them it seems they are actually from North India or Bengal. Only concern seems to be to jerk off that asomiya climbing below me in the ladder.Muktikam PhukanMomy Saikia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Dipankar,Do you really think that someone could be deprived of what they deserve due to prevailing discrimination. However, I can appreciate your point of view.With all
 due respect to everyone who support the cause of ULFA or are in the notion that central govt is biased against the north east, do you really think establishing your own rights by "snatching" it from either friends or enemies is the right action.It’s down to every individual at the end of the day; govt can only support. Playing the blame game is temporary and can never last long and yet the repercussions are severe and permanent.I wasn’t brought up in Assam and have rarely set foot on my land, so my opinion might not be significant. However, blaming the govt. for the complete situation of the state is not justified. If people of Assam are so bothered with the face of Assam’s roads, the least they could contribute is to construct the road and drains in the periphery of their new homes. If each household would care to spend the extra price of laying the road outside their “dream house”, everyone would have
 better lanes to walk through………With regards to your concern with no major industries being set up in Assam since independence, why wait for the govt to take the initiative. Be it a personal or govt’s initiative to establish an industry, the results will always be favourable for the people of the place in terms of more employment opportunities and globalization of the state…I hope that my personal opinion will not be misconstrued as my support for the Indian govt (I am an engineer by profession and not a politician so I am not radicalized)…I believe in “everyman for himself”. Besides evidences from history prove that revolutions and changes happens due to the initiative of one/more people together, not due to any govt’s standalone decision.So we need to plan some course of action instead of passing the buckIf our generation was to be trusted with the politics of the nation, we would have nothing to
 complain aboutMomyFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dipankar Malla Baruah (Well Logging))Reply-To: "D M Baruah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: "Momy Saikia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,Subject: Re: [Assam] AT: Who runs ULFASeeking answers???Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 14:51:47 +0530ULFA problem is the result of large scale un-employment and common sentiment amongst the people of Assam that the central government is not doing enough for the development of Assam. The two major industries of Assam, Tea and Oil industry was started by Britishers. People of Assam had to do agitations for setting up refineries for oil produced in Assam. After independance, there is not a single major industry set up in Assam. Assam is a major producer of tea, oil and gas in India. But Assam is still one of the
 poorest state. If you look at the conditions of roads, primary health and educational infrastructure in Assam, it is amonngst the worst in India. Most of the people of Assam had the access to moblile phones only recently.  Most of the time people dont have electricity here. Big things come to assam only when people agitate.These are a few things that one can realise while staying in Assam. It is easy to talk of peace and prosperity staying in a foreign land. Taking the gun or going ULFA way is certainly not the right way to solve the problems of the state. But we should realise that every problem has got certain reason. I dont support the ULFA millitants when they kill people or collect ransoms. But I still feel that Central Government should stop doing step motherly treatment to Assam. Let more industries set up here, let more youth have jobs, let people be happy with
 the basic ammenities of life, ULFA will not have enough people joining them and the problem will solve by itself.- Original Message - From: "Momy Saikia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: 

Re: [Assam] AT: Who runs ULFA????????Seeking answers???

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Dear Muktikam,I do not agree at all about ur first perception. Where do all those exceptionally brilliant people stay back and do what  why??? Look at Kerala, Andhrapradesh and some other states in India, where so many people from these states are working abroad and have contributed immensely to their home states.Forget about huge investment of those people in their home state, even a very small contribution from them can make a healthy impact on the economy of Assam. I'll give you an example.Let us consider about 1000 people from Assam stay or work abroad. If we consider that they earn in an average about US$60,000 per annum. Even if they send US$ 6,000per annum to their kins in Assam or spends that much amount during their visit to Assam, the contribution is to the tune of US$ 6,000,000 per annum i.e. about India Rs. 27 Crores/annum. Regarding your
 opinion about the ASOMIYA's in Higher echeleons of Natun Dilli, I agree with you to some extent. But this is more true about the politicians, who, in spite of having the means to do something are living in their own world and enjoying their stay in Delhi. I would not like to comment on the very very few IAS and others in the higher eheleons, whose ultimate aim is to settle in Delhi and be a real 'Delhite', however, I donot want to make a general statement as there are exceptions.If I am wrong in my presumption do care to correct me.  RegardsMridulmuktikam phukan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Shraddhar Bhuyan DangoriyaI m pretty sure about my perception.   And, in certain cases where we can't single out exceptions in
 a majority, general statements do give an indicationRegards  Muktikam PhukanMridul Bhuyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Why can't these individuals stay back and try to change the situation? Are u sure about ur perception?And ASOMIYA's in Higher echeleons of Natun Dilli --- for them it seems they are actually from North India or Bengal. Only concern seems to be to jerk off that asomiya climbing below me in the ladder.  Is it right to make a general statement?Think about it? :)RegardsMridul  muktikam phukan
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Problem lies in our educated people migrating to USA and other greener pastures after getting full advantage of the govt provided educational infrastructure (whatever little is available).  Why can't these individuals stay back and try to change the situation?   Left behind are those people who actually has to shout slogans once in a while to get a refinery, a tea auction centre, an IIT et al.  And ASOMIYA's in Higher echeleons of Natun Dilli --- for them it seems they are actually from North India or Bengal. Only concern seems to be to jerk off that asomiya climbing below me in the ladder.Muktikam PhukanMomy Saikia
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Dipankar,Do you really think that someone could be deprived of what they deserve due to prevailing discrimination. However, I can appreciate your point of view.With all due respect to everyone who support the cause of ULFA or are in the notion that central govt is biased against the north east, do you really think establishing your own rights by "snatching" it from either friends or enemies is the right action.It’s down to every individual at the end of the day; govt can only support. Playing the blame game is temporary and can never last long and yet the repercussions are severe and permanent.I wasn’t brought up in Assam and have rarely set foot on my land, so my opinion might not be significant. However, blaming the govt. for the complete situation of
 the state is not justified. If people of Assam are so bothered with the face of Assam’s roads, the least they could contribute is to construct the road and drains in the periphery of their new homes. If each household would care to spend the extra price of laying the road outside their “dream house”, everyone would have better lanes to walk through………With regards to your concern with no major industries being set up in Assam since independence, why wait for the govt to take the initiative. Be it a personal or govt’s initiative to establish an industry, the results will always be favourable for the people of the place in terms of more employment opportunities and globalization of the state…I hope that my personal opinion will not be misconstrued as my support for the Indian govt (I am an engineer by profession and not a politician so I am not radicalized)…I believe in “everyman for himself”. Besides evidences from
 history prove that revolutions and changes happens due to the initiative of one/more people together, not due to any govt’s standalone decision.So we need to plan some course of action instead of passing the buckIf our generation was to be trusted with the politics of the nation, we would have nothing to complain aboutMomyFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dipankar Malla Baruah (Well Logging))Reply-To: "D M Baruah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: "Momy Saikia" <[EMAIL 

Re: [Assam] Fwd: JUSTICE...!!!!!! see it

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Re: [Assam] Amarjyoti Choudhury new GU VC(The assam Tribune, 17.09.2006)

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Great news. Thanks.MridulBuljit Buragohain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:GUWAHATI, Sept 16 – Noted physicist Dr Amarjyoti Choudhury is the next Vice-Chancellor (VC) of Gauhati University (GU). An order issued from Rajbhawan and signed by Governor Ajai Singh, who is also the Chancellor of the University, yesterday and received here today, said that Dr Choudhury has been appointed the Vice-Chancellor of the University ‘with effect from the date of taking over charge’.   When contacted this afternoon, Dr Choudhury told this newspaper that he would prepare a road map for the development of the University consulting its students and the teachers. Though he has some ideas of his own for the development of the University, he would always give preference to the collective wisdom, he
 added.  According to the sources close to him, his priority will be in making immediate arrangements for student placement and counseling. By bringing order and discipline to the organization, he wants to turn the university into a front ranking university of India and Southeast Asia as well, said the sources.  Eldest of the four sons of former Education Minister, noted litterateur and thespian Late Lakshyadhar Choudhury and Late Usha Choudhury, Dr Choudhury is the present Head of the Department of Physics, Tezpur University. He mixes teaching and research in frontier areas like nanotechnology or quantum electronics with discussions or performance of drama and poetry. Dr Choudhury has versatile qualities. On the one hand, he is invited as a visiting professor at the European Laboratory or Nonlinear Spectroscopy at University of Florence to head an international research project on innovative multiphoton microscopy, on the other, noted theatre groups
 like the Surya stages his plays like Bhoy or Tongighar. He is also known for his recitations of the poems composed by some of the famous Assamese poets or by him. He also directed his students in the acclaimed play Durbol Dolong.  Dr Choudhury topped the list of the successful students in the 1966 HSLC examination conducted by the SEBA. An M Sc in Physics from the Delhi University, Dr Choudhury did his Ph D from the University of Oxford. He has around 70 scientific papers to his credit and these papers were published in the national and international journals.  He served the University of Florence, Nuclear Science Centre and the University of Bucharest as visiting professor. He introduced the M Sc course in Nanoscience and technology at Tezpur University, which was the first such course in a Indian university. He is also known as an excellent orator and quizmaster. He has also authored several essays on the university system.(The Assam
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Re: [Assam] Amarjyoti Choudhury new GU VC(The assam Tribune, 17.09.2006)

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Great news. Thanks.MridulBuljit Buragohain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:GUWAHATI, Sept 16 – Noted physicist Dr Amarjyoti Choudhury is the next Vice-Chancellor (VC) of Gauhati University (GU). An order issued from Rajbhawan and signed by Governor Ajai Singh, who is also the Chancellor of the University, yesterday and received here today, said that Dr Choudhury has been appointed the Vice-Chancellor of the University ‘with effect from the date of taking over charge’.   When contacted this afternoon, Dr Choudhury told this newspaper that he would prepare a road map for the development of the University consulting its students and the teachers. Though he has some ideas of his own for the development of the University, he would always give preference to the collective wisdom, he
 added.  According to the sources close to him, his priority will be in making immediate arrangements for student placement and counseling. By bringing order and discipline to the organization, he wants to turn the university into a front ranking university of India and Southeast Asia as well, said the sources.  Eldest of the four sons of former Education Minister, noted litterateur and thespian Late Lakshyadhar Choudhury and Late Usha Choudhury, Dr Choudhury is the present Head of the Department of Physics, Tezpur University. He mixes teaching and research in frontier areas like nanotechnology or quantum electronics with discussions or performance of drama and poetry. Dr Choudhury has versatile qualities. On the one hand, he is invited as a visiting professor at the European Laboratory or Nonlinear Spectroscopy at University of Florence to head an international research project on innovative multiphoton microscopy, on the other, noted theatre groups
 like the Surya stages his plays like Bhoy or Tongighar. He is also known for his recitations of the poems composed by some of the famous Assamese poets or by him. He also directed his students in the acclaimed play Durbol Dolong.  Dr Choudhury topped the list of the successful students in the 1966 HSLC examination conducted by the SEBA. An M Sc in Physics from the Delhi University, Dr Choudhury did his Ph D from the University of Oxford. He has around 70 scientific papers to his credit and these papers were published in the national and international journals.  He served the University of Florence, Nuclear Science Centre and the University of Bucharest as visiting professor. He introduced the M Sc course in Nanoscience and technology at Tezpur University, which was the first such course in a Indian university. He is also known as an excellent orator and quizmaster. He has also authored several essays on the university system.(The Assam
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Re: [Assam] Details: H-1B visa 20th floor interview; the preceding nightmares

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Nice account Umesh. Best Wishes.Mridulumesh sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi,Here is the bit about my visa interview. Being one ofa kind case - I do not know anybody being here forH-1B visa for teaching (thru a visa contractor -in mycase www.sonlightinternational.com ) . So I wasinwardly shaking when I went in. No lets start fromthe beginning --from the preparation --from the heydays of my sea beach visits --right to visit to thevisa officer.Here goes... When I had started from Washington DC toVancouver, Canada - I already had brought with mealmost all the required documents. So it was only thisMonday that I decided to wake up from this natureresort holiday at www.ubc.ca and check out the placewhere I was supposed to go for the visa
 interview. Foradded effect I went to the international airport atVancouver once again -where I had landed from DC. Theaim was to make a direct connection between my cominghere from DC and my going to the visa interview. Itmade me focused and serious about the whole thing.This lovely place had me taking it quite lightly sinceI had come here.So the next day (Tuesday) i spent filling out andprinting the forms DS-156, DS 157, DS -158 (I hadalready got my passport size photos done onSunday--just 2 photos for $8 (Rs 400!!) at the UBClibrary. The tricky part was the column regardingcountry of residence -- had to mention two people whocould vouch for me. Shall I say Canada (I know only myhots here) or India (then I could not recollect anyphone numbers). After a Google search -which showedwhere you spent your last 12 or more months -asresident country - mentioned my landlord and myHarvard sponsor
 schooltime firnd Dr kamal Kejriwal'snames and phone etc. Yesterday (Wednesday) I painstakingly went over allthe documents I might need -made photocopies of themall. God is in details -as the say. And more I wentover the stuff the more I realized that I had leftsomething . But I was successful in my aim in packingall the documents needed (incl US visa forms,passport, $100 fee in cash in USD and originalmarksheets etc, payslips etc, employment letters, taxforms, etc etc) by 10 pm in plastic bags. We could nottake backpacks, cellphones, water or any electronicdevices--as told in the website --however on reachingthere I was told to tear open all my sealedmarksheets/transcripts also--big mess -now have to getnew ones from India. Then I ironed my only full sleeved white checked(Raymonds Rs 300) shirt I had brought and the blackpants . I was told by my host and her mother that theall American tie
 (with stars and stripes -I bought itin DC -3 for $10) was too inappropriate andrecommended I wear a grey patterned one. Last nightwhile returning from the UBC library suddenly it hadstarted raining so weather had cooled down (I had myfolding umbrella gifted by Harvard Dorm crew -mycolleagues when we used to clean classrooms together)so I decided to wear an inner warm vest under theshirt -and a wind cheater on top.I used my cellphone to tell the time but it was bannedfrom US consulate so my host's husband had offered hiswatch (my HMT with Hindi day dial has run out batteryanyway) but I decided against taking it --since evenin James Bond movies -he blows up buildings with hiswatch --the consulate security mighthave similar ideasregarding watching and might asked me to throw myhost's watch out before getting in.I could not sleep nearly all night (my cellphone wasset for 3 alarms -at 6:30 am, 6:45
 am and 7:00 am) sodid not need more than one alarm and kept waking upall night. (Even had a nightmare where a calf insomeplace near Jaipur is biting my arm -and stoppingme from racing on to some school in some village nearthere. the previous night I had a dream that somehow Iam Jaipur School and talking to a student's parent -of2005 batch--and suddenly I look at my watch and lo! itis already 8:40 am -and then I remember I have to rushfor the visa interview -the US consulate building atvancouver appears [in a deamy way] to be located indowntown Jaipur -in my mind. So I rush outside -howwillI reach there?? Oh!! then I see my red , chromeand black bullet enfield parked under the tree infront of my house. Does it still work after my twoyear stay in US? So confusing ---all mixed up - acrosstime and space. That was the end of taht terrifyingdream of last night (Wednesday Sep 13th).So got up at first
 alarm and rushed thru the morningdrill -again checked my passport and the visa forms-and at 7:45 am ran out the door. No rain, I hadchecked the weather report on Yahoo - said might rainso took umbrella and cold weather 9-15 degree celcius-like winter in most India. Thebus which I changedafter a 20 minute ride was in rush hour for goingdowntown (main city) so elbow to elbow I stood inthebus and reached the last station -Burhard Station-which was where I was to get down. It was exactly8:30 am in the clock at the bus stand. Still one and ahalf hours to go.There were tall sky scrapers all around (though nottoo tall 

[Assam] Few Mobile Facts

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  FEW MOBILE FACTS:- 1) Emergency number
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Re: [Assam] Sniffer dogs at Rajghat

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I think you have a valid point.RegardsmridulRam Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi Mridul,The US security for GW Bush puts sniffer dogs at action in Bapu's Samadhi at Rajghat. how was that?? any comment???I really don't see anything wrong with that. Terrorists do not differentiate between sacred places like Raj Ghat and crowded markets. For them the place that brings out the biggest headlines is the best.   The fact that sniffer dogs are in action even at Raj Ghat just speak of the sad realities of terrorists indiscriminately attacking/bombing any place.
   The sinffer dogs should be seen a an effect as opposed to a cause. We should not have to feel insulted at all by this. The intent is protection and safeguarding people and property and not meant as an insult to a sacred place or to the Mahatma. Btw: Even Gandhi had to endure security shields (and even at the Birla temple) and the British always complained that it was very expensive to keep Gandhi in poverty. Most of the people in the 3rd class compartment he travelled in were security staff in mufti. --Ram da On 3/2/06, Mridul Bhuyan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:   The greatest deal in Indian History with US - The headlines scream.On the other hand,The US security for GW Bush puts sniffer dogs at action in Bapu's Samadhi at Rajghat. how was that?? any comment???Mridul BhuyanYahoo! MailBring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. ___assam mailing
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[Assam] Sniffer dogs at Rajghat

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The greatest deal in Indian History with US - The headlines scream.On the other hand,The US security for GW Bush puts sniffer dogs at action in Bapu's Samadhi at Rajghat. how was that?? any comment???  Mridul Bhuyan
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Re: [Assam] Fw: THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE X SOUND IN ASSAMESE

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Rajen Da,one of the most well researched article ever read on the significance of 'x'. Well done. keep it up.RegardsMridulRajen Barua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:This is a copy of an article sent to Assam Tribune for yours and your family's education.  GOA is trying to do the most foolish thing for the Assamese changing the name to ASOM.  The correct phonetic spelling of
 Assam in Assamese should be OXOM.  Looks like dumb Assam politicians arecontrolled by ignorant Assamese scholars.  This is the saddest day for Assam.  I hope people will write in pprotest of this.  Rajen Barua  USA  --  THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE ‘X’ SOUND IN ASSAMESE LANGUAGE  Rajen Barua, Houston, USAAssamese is the eastern-most member of New Indo Aryan (NIA) languages in India, and is spoken in the Brahmaputra valley in Assam. It is also the easternmost member of the Indo-European group of languages which is the largest language group in the world with a total number of speakers of more than half of the world population. All the modern European languages as well as those of Iran, India and Pakistan fall into this Indo-European group. Amongst the NIA languages, Assamese bears some unique characteristics which are not found in other Indian languages. Assamese is a very ancient language, a fact not very well recognized even by the Assamese. From that ancient past, the Assamese language evolved in partial isolation from mainland India, and developed some distinct characteristics. Being the farthest outpost of Aryan migration towards the east, Assamese falls in the outer belt or in the peripheral Indo-Aryan languages. As such Assamese has retained certain characteristics of the parent Indo-European (IE) languages which have been lost in other parts of India. Besides the absence of the cerebrals, Assamese has the
 unique /x/ sound which is absent in Sanskrit and other NIA languages. This was duly observed by the Baptist Missionaries in the early nineteenth century when they encountered the language and has opined correctly that Assamese has the unique /x/ sound which is similar to the Greeks. Phonetically, this /x/ sound is pronounced somewhat in between the sounds /s/, /kh/ and /h/ and is similar to the German sound /ch/ as pronounced in the word ‘Bach’ or the Scottish sound as found in the word ‘Loch’. Thus in Assamese, all the three Indo-Aryan Sibilants: s, s’ and s’’ are pronounced as /x/. This is a unique characteristic of the Assamese language. On this point, Dr. Suniti Kumar Chatterjee, the leading Indian philologist, remarked, “The change of initial, intervocal and final (sibilants) to the gluteral spirant x in Assamese
 is something remarkable and is paralleled by what we see in Singhalese and Kashmiri. This is also noticeable in Iranian, Hellenic and Celtic” In many languages this original Indo-European /x/ sound was lost which either evolved to s, kh or h. According to Kaliram Medhi, “The Assamese pronunciation of the sibilants is peculiar in Assamese, and evidently a relic of pre Vedic Aryan pronunciation.” Dimbeswar Neog also agrees, “Next to the above peculiarities is the Asamiya X pronunciation of the sibilants which also must have been brought by the Early Aryans called the Mediterranean.” Thus we see that this x sound in Assamese is not something which developed in Assam, nor it is a sound which was inherited from any of the non-Aryan languages in Assam, but it simply marks an
 earlier Indo-European pre Vedic heritage. The /x/ sound was there in the pre-Vedic Aryan language also before the evolution of the classical Sanskrit language. Dr Suniti Kumar Chatterjee, writes "It seems that in certain forms of OIA (Old Indo-Aryan languages the /x/ sound was the actually one employed for S as can be inferred from a medieval pronunciation of S as /kh/ being the nearest approximation to the traditional /x/". Dimbeswar Neog further writes, "When the Nordic of Vedic Aryan immigration into India took place in the second millennium B.C., the /x/ sound as in Asamiya was prominent. Chatterjee thinks that "tatax kim" was the actual pronunciation at the time of the Rig
 Veda. It came to be pronounced as "tatah kim" in later times owing to the loss of /x/ sound due to non-Aryan influence predominating over the Aryan. But it remained almost intact in the Dardic or Pisaci speech which like the Asamiya is a language of the outer band." Scholars have now correctly identified this unique Assamese sound to be a ‘veller fricative’ sound. Dr. Banikanata Kakaoty, states that in Assamese it is an ‘unvoiced velar fricative’ sound. Dr Golok Ch Goswami describes it as a “velar voiceless aspirant’. The International Phonetic Association (IPA), has identified all the sounds of all the languages in the world and have assigned some unique symbols. The IPA symbol of the ‘velar fricative’ sound as found in Assamese 

Re: [Assam] Assam Trip-2

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Thanks for letting people know about the real fighters.RegardsMridulChan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Dear Netters,I spoke about the very fine things that the Rural Volunteer Center ( RVC) is doing at Akajan. Ravindranath and his wife Sathyasree Goswami, who live at Silapathar and lead their many efforts are making a measurable difference for the many people whose lives have been ravaged by repeated floods. Today I hope to tell you a little more about them and RVC.Ravindra Nath , son of UP and Bengali parents, studied Appropriate Technology 
 ( and something else) at IIT-Delhi. He got involved with NGO work under the noted social worker (?) Bunker Roy. He started at the NE at Arunachal and later moved down to Akajan/Silapthar. That is all I know of Ravi. Ravi's wife, Sathyasree is from Guwahati. The following about herself,is in her own words:"I am an Assamese born as the 6th daughter to Mr. P.N. Goswami and Ms. Biva Goswami of Chenikuthi. educated partly in Cotton College i have been working in Akajan from 1995 and took a break for two years to work with drought affected people of Anantapur district of Andhra Pradesh. Now I volunteer for RVC and I havestarted a collective called shakti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) to work on holistic community health and right to health and health care, where I work full time based in Akajan village."I did not get to meet
 Sathyasree as she was with her ailing mother at Guahati. But I had the privilege of staying overnight at RVC's guest-house. Ravi and the other volunteers live there as well. Their little campus was like an 'ashram', with all kinds of undertakings going on. They even have a satellite dish  with a high-speed internet network, which they acquired with some wiles, a necessity in today's world but a luxury beyond imagination in Assam and particularly at a place like Akajan.Guile and wiles in addition to a dedicated sense of service have been essential for RVC's continued existence and success. What they face everyday is not something for the faint of heart or for the occasional do-gooder like ourselves.  Ravi recounted a number of anecdotes while he and a couple of his associates took me around to show some of the many wonderful things they are doing all over. I was awed by the obstacles they face and how they make little dents, one at
 a time, to make a difference. They have spawned other volunteers like themselves or have joined hands with others in different ways by sharing their resources and experiences.One such effort that I was highly impressed by was a road building project organized by the Mising students' association--the name of which eludes me --led by a young Mising, Pegu, whose first name I forget, who also was a Cotton College Union Secy.--a powerful position as we well know. He and John - another Mising, trained at B'lore as an MBA I think, were leading over a thousand young volunteers who were building a road -- a lifeline for a series of villages which was washed away, but did not get repaired/replaced by the Govt or the GOs entrusted with the responsibility, with sheer hand power-with nothing but hoes. They come from miles around and are required to sleep over at poly-tents . They are fed by volunteers who prepare meals in the harvested rice paddies, like the
 'bhoj' prior to the 'meji' at Magh Bihu, except it is not much of a feast. The logistics of feeding so many was amazing. It was partially funded by a program called "Food for Work" I believe. Ravi explained that the govt. did nothing for years. Ultimately the people had to gear into action.Attached herewith is one document describing RVC and its many programs. I will send two more under separate mail.I know I wrote a lot--and it always runs the risk of NOT being read. But I hope some would take a little interest, and spread the word, the good news. Because Assam can use many more of such efforts as RVC's. And they are gearing up to train those leaders for just that. Let us hope we too can do a little to give them the support they so richly deserve.  Best to all.cm   
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[Assam] Happy New Year in 2006

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Best Wishes on the eve of the ensuing New Year 2006.Mridul
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Re: [Assam] Delhi Bomb Blasts

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Yes, by God's grace me and my family are safe but very very close to one of the places of the incident at that time.

MridulChan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Re: [Assam] Fwd: Pictures from last Saturday

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Alpana Ba,

Welcome back. So many sensitive people have shared your emotions, you might've felt a lot lighter. We also felt like being there by visiting Nitin's site  all those photographs. You should take pride in having such a wonderful child.

Mridul"Alpana B. Sarangapani" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thanks C'da. Our hope is that we get back to some sense of normalcy by being occupied, writing mails and getting involved in Nitin's trust fund.
Yes, Mano da  Bina (Hazarika)worked very hard all day that day and made a DVDof the whole ceremony - clear pictures and all,asit is made by a pro. Raja (Deka)and Hazarika too, blew up Nitin's pictures - baby and the latest ones that brought tears to the eyes of manythat never had met Nitin before, framed them in beautiful collages and made the whole presentation a memorable one. 
TheHouston community was just terrific - extremely supportive, as usual, together when trauma hits a family. As a community, they aretogetherin happiness and sorrow, no matter what. Parul Baideu  Bhindeu (Hazarika), Usha  Hiren da (Sharma) Jeena  Rabin da (Mahantas), Hazarikas, Kamal  Zina Deka,Rupa and Ashok (Baruahs),Lohit da  ManjuDutta-Barua, Bhuyans, Borthakurs, Goswamis, the Das', theTalukdars and everybodyprovided us withtremendous moral support for which we have been able to hang in there. I apologize if I forgot to mention anybody's name here. But in our minds, we remember you all for what you did. 
It was just that onlyNitin was not awake. But I felt like Nitin was smiling (and giggling as healways does when he is very happy)and telling me: 'Look Mom,everybody is doing so much for me! they adore me just like you and my daddoes.Just be sure to thank each andeveryone for me.'So, here I am thanking everyone from the bottom of my heart.
Mukul-da, thank you forall your notes - we've been reading them andfinding a great deal of solace thru all the mails from all of you. We've saved the mails and will try tosend personal notes to all of you. 
However, your presence all the way from St. Louis, and that of Jugal's from Colorado and Tafuzul Haque's from Ohio and many others from every corner of Houston, Austin and Dallas also gave us tremendous solace and support at this lowest point in our lives. Your collective presence gives us that courage and fortitude to forge ahead inspite of this tradegy.
With regards,
- Alpana


From: Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "Alpana B. Sarangapani" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], assam@assamnet.orgSubject: Re: [Assam] Fwd: Pictures from last SaturdayDate: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:02:40 -0500



Hi Alpana:


Good to hear from both you and Ram.

I agree, the pictures are beautiful. Rana did a splendid job. I am sure Mano Hazarika's videos have come out well too.

Looking forward to having both of you back in the net soon.

Best to you.

c-da
















At 4:57 PM -0500 10/11/05, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote:
Dear Dil  Dilip-da:
Thanks for forwarding the pictures again - at least the ones interested in could view them. Rana Gogoi did a splendid job on holding the whole occasion in a perfect order, step by step - this is going to be a huge part ofour treasure now.
If I, myself, was not the unfortunate person here, it would have beenbeyond my imagination - how one can view (and talk about)her own child's funeral, surprisingly it has proved otherwise. It has been somewhat soothing -we realizethat is the reality - these are the things that we will have to live with from now on.
Our son will always be the usual witty, straight-forward, patrioticand vibrant young man living within us until we see him again. It is just that as normal human beings, we feel that God could have taken him 70+ years later, and that is, after us. But I have convinced myself that he is in a better place now, he is withGod,from where he can see us any time, and I already feel that all the time now - heis helping me to take decisions.
Once again, Ramgopal and I offer our heartfelt appreciation to all of you, from all over the world,for being with us - in person and in your thoughts and prayers-throughphone calls,notes, cardsandemails, and thus showing Nitin so much of love, careand affection.
Thank you again.
- Mala and Ramgopal
(Alpana  Ram Sarangapani)
Houston, Texas. USA.




From: Dilip/Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: ASSAMNET assam@assamnet.orgSubject: [Assam] Fwd: Pictures from last SaturdayDate: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 13:13:44 -0700 (PDT)
Note: forwarded message attached.




From: Rana Gogoi [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Pictures from last SaturdayDate: 07 Oct 2005 19:02:46 -0700Pictures from last SaturdayDear Raiz,These pictures are from last Saturday. Because of the occasion I tried to keep as many pictures as possible.Rana Gogoihttp://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rgogoi4/album?.dir=/34bd.src="">h.tok=phF_cvDBf8rWbNet
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Re: [Assam] Intro of 'mikemahant'

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Dear Sir,

Eagerly waiting to meet you as soon as possible. My mobile no. is 9313970558.

Regards

Mridulmc mahant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Mridul,
Thanks. We must meet at Delhi 25/26 etc. Let's have your TF.
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From:Mridul Bhuyan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]CC:Assam@assamnet.orgSubject:Re: [Assam] Intro of 'mikemahant'Date:Sun, 9 Oct 2005 22:30:18 -0700 (PDT)

Chan Da,



I knew he is your brother. I had the opportunity to work with him while he was undertaking an contract from BHEL in the Waste Heat Thermal Power Plant in Namrup Thermal Power Station. I learnt from him how to work.He is very keen on practically doing every work and contrary tothe Indian engineers and believed in doing everything with his own hands as much as possible. Last, I knew of him is settling in Guwahati. He is indeed a great man.



Regards



MridulChan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







Dear BK:



I should have done this long back, that is to introduce my eldest brother, Mukul Mahanta, 70, to you all netters. But I avoided doing so purposely, because I had this guilt complex of hogging Assam Net bandwidth. What I did not need was the additional guilt of breeding nepotism also :-).





Anyway, a number of netters know Mukul Dada personally here. You do too, just that his e-mail ID threw you off.





For those who don't know him, for starters, he is NO bureaucrat :-) as Assam Tribune described him in the bio of PCG members.



Mukul Dada grew up in Jorhat and Namti, went to Namti High School and matriculated from Jorhat Govt. High School, did his ISc from Cotton College,Guwahati and on to IIT-Kharagpur where he did his B.Tech and M.Tech in Electronics and Instrumentation ( one of the earliest Assamese in the field). He went to do post graduate studies at the Univ. of Southampton, UK, at the completion of which he joined the then Burmah Oil Company ( predecessor of OIL) in the UK and returned to lead the instrumentation of the oil pipelines in Assam.



At the risk of sounding boastful, I cannot but state here that Mukul Dada is an Engineer's engineer, along with his social service and activism roles and an unabashed supporter of Assam's rights to self determination . He had every opportunity to leave, like so many of us did. But instead he returned to Assam after decades in Kolkata as a consulting engineer, factory manager and import substitution design engineer,where he went after his stint with BOC, to help Assam in many different arenas, including bamboo utilization and propagation ( much before it became fashionable to do so), affordable housing, water decontamination systems, power generation installations among others. He studied flood and erosion alleviation systems for the Brahmaputra and has just returned from China, where he went at the invitation of Shanghai Institute of Clean Coal Technology to look into getting technology from China/Russia to convert GAS/COAL/BIOMASS to Methanol in Assam.



He has been a singular source of inspiration, not only for us, his son and six brothers and sisters but for many others not only in Assam but elsewhere in India as well.



Best,



c















At 7:05 AM -0400 10/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dear Mike



I didn't know that you're a Namti boy. Do tell me about yourself. And a big thank you for your compliment. I should say you made by my day. My wife and I are now in holiday in Torreviaje,Spain where we've a bungalow. We're basking in sunshine, 30 degrees.



Regards



Bhuban

Torreviaje, Spain

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Re: [Assam] NYT: Can Assamese teachers teach US kids - English??

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Isn't it wonderful?

Mridul Bhuyanumesh sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



A Tutor Half a World Away, but as Close as a Keyboard

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/07/education/07tutor.html?pagewanted=1ei=5070en=0b883ade33a52a1cex=1126238400

By SARITHA RAI
Published: September 7, 2005

COCHIN, India - A few minutes before 7 on a recent morning, Greeshma Salin swiveled her chair to face the computer, slipped on her headset and said in faintly accented English, "Hello, Daniela." Seconds later she heard the response, "Hello, Greeshma." That same morning in Cochin, an English teacher, Anya Tharakan, 24, directed her student away from the subject of video games to concentrate on a passage from "Alice in Wonderland," enlivening the lessons with puzzles and picture games. 
Ms. Tharakan, who tutors Serena Marinaro among others, said a bit of the cultural gulf was being bridged when students asked her "How big is your home?" or "Do you have friends at work?" or "Can you send me your photo?" For her part, Ms. Tharakan is learning about soccer and rap music from her students. 
Thomas Marinaro, a chiropractor in Los Angeles and the father of Daniela and Serena, had been unhappy with the face-to-face tutoring he had previously arranged for his daughters at home. After three months with Growing Stars, however, Dr. Marinaro said the girls' math skills were already much improved. As a bonus, it cost a third of what he paid the home tutor.
Dr. Marinaro said that he had misgivings when he first considered enrolling his daughters for English tutoring. "I thought, how could somebody from India teach them English?" But after a few weeks of monitoring, he said he relaxed. "I want my girls to develop a good vocabulary and write better, and I believe they are learning to do that."
Biju Mathew, an Indian-born software engineer, set up Growing Stars after moving to the Silicon Valley five years ago to work for a technology start-up company. In India, he had been paying $10 a month for twice-a-week tutoring sessions for his children.
In the United States, he found, a similar service could cost $50 or more per hour. The idea of homework outsourcing was born, and the company began offering its services in January 2004.
Growing Stars has been cautious, offering its students a choice of United States- or India-based tutors for English. It charges a $10 premium above its normal $20 rate for students who choose a tutor in the United States. When parents have expressed concern over a tutor's accent, the firm has offered a change of instructor.
Other online tutoring firms in the United States adopt varied approaches. Tutor.com, for instance, uses only tutors based in North America. SmarThinking of Washington, D.C., has tutors in the United States but also has instructors in South Africa, the Philippines, India and Chile. However, only those in the United States provide English lessons.
"We haven't found any cultural divide," said SmarThinking's chief executive and co-founder, Burck Smith. Eliminating factors such as skin color, appearance, gender and accent made the Internet "more egalitarian than most classrooms," he said.
The demand for online tutoring is reflected in the firm's 50 percent growth rate in the last few years. Twenty new clients - including high schools and colleges - have signed on for tutoring beginning this fall.
Firms like Growing Stars are aggressively looking to expand their online tutoring under federal programs. This summer, for instance, Growing Stars' tutors ran a successful pilot for the Upward Bound program at Marist College in Poughkeepsie, N.Y.
The program, financed by the federal Department of Education, helps children of high school age get into college. With the start of the academic year this fall, Growing Stars expects to provide online tutoring in math to 80 students from Marist's Upward Bound program.
Also, the firm has just been approved as a licensed tutoring provider in California under the federal No Child Left Behind law. Currently, Growing Stars is trying to find a way for its teachers to be fingerprinted by the Department of Justice to meet legal requirements of the program.
Mr. Philip, the chairman, said his company's work would help make Americans more competitive.
"Offshore tutoring," he said, "is a step toward ensuring that we are not always beaten in competition against Japanese carmakers, Indian software firms and Chinese manufacturers."


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Re: [Assam] Obsessions etc. with attached article

[Mridul Bhuyan]

In order to honour our own heroes we must learn to honour the heroes of othercommunities. It is a rather unpalatable fact that the Assamese middle classhas consistently refused to provide space to the other nationalities of theregion. The hegemonistic ambitions of this class has been one of the manyfactors responsible for the break-up of Assam. This class been so obsessedwith defending its linguistic identity that it has had little time to considerthe feelings and aspirations of the smaller communities/nationalities thatonce formed part of the province. At the present juncture, for its ownsurvival, the Assamese middle class must learn to shed off its exclusivistapproach and help create a broader cultural milieu which would berepresentative of the entire region

The writer of the article is very right in saying so. Those people were very close to our heart once. But due to the utter negligence shown to these simple minded people, we are at present a divided lot. We must work for unity among our brothers in hills as well as plains with an open heart to make it a big North eastern community.

Mridul Bhuyannripen gogoi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hey this is an excellent article, I do remember my golden days at Bishnupur  Motinagar, Shiilong. The Khasi Mama's who sells potatoes on their back  the Kong's with Soflong  Sayangs...Ooops ! Those were the best days of my life.

We were there for 35 long years till finally our family shifted to Guwahati on 2000. 

Thankskeep it up with such nice articles.

Nripen Gogoi
Greenville, South Carolina

Rajiv Baruah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All,An excellent article from Udayan Misra on how limited an interaction theplainsmen had with the hill people. Has anyone read the Siddhartha Deb's "ThePoint of Return"? A very poignant novel about memories, migration,belonging,being a stranger in one's own birthplace. As a (past) resident ofShillong, it had a very powerful impact in me. To top it all, the house whereSiddhartha grew up and our was separated by all of a kilometer, we would havegone to the same school and had the same interests - the State CentralLibrary, egg rolls, and the rock concerts. In fact, I recognise him from hisphotograph in the back cover of the book. I so wish now that I had stepped outfrom my comfort zone of my group of (Oxomiya) friends and spoken with him.Attached ArticleOn reaching out to other culturesNORTH-EAST PERSPECTIVEUdayan
 MisraR ecently I had the opportunity of going through a PhD dissertation on theKhasi poet Soso Tham by Kynpham Singh Nongkynrih. It was a highly satisfyingpiece of work accompanied by some excellent translations into English of SosoTham’s poetry. Soso Tham’s biographer, Hughlet Wazri, tells us that thepoet was born in Sohra near Cherrapunji in 1873 to a poor family which hadbeen newly converted to Christianity. He studied upto class six in Sohra in amissionary school, resisted attempts to be put into a theological college, andthen moved on to Shillong where he eventually became a teacher of Khasi in theShillong Government High School. He served as a teacher for 26 long yearsbefore retiring from service in 1931. A self-taught poet, he took pains tounderstand the "rules of poetry" and finally wrote two volumes of poemsentitled Ka Duitara Ksiar ( The Golden Harp, 1925) and Ki Sngi Ba Rim UHynniew Trep ( The Olden Days of U
 Hynniew Trep, 1936). Both these works areheavily laden with the tradition and culture of the Khasi people and expressesSoso Tham’s deep love for them and his faith in their future. Throughout hispoetry he engages himself deeply with the customs and traditions of hisforefathers, the Hynniew Trep people who were the ancestors of the seven Khasisub-tribes. Describing how the socio-economic and political systems as well asthe religious beliefs of the people were forged by the uncles and the fathersof U Hynniewtrep on the hearth of the ‘Mother’s House’ , Soso Thamwrites: Since the days ancient and lost / There it rests their kinship theirwealth; Then they raised their Rites their Rituals / There they founded theirreligion; It was the Fire in the Hearth, / Then they raised their politics.The poet continuously strives to go into the mythic past and spiritual life ofhis people and laments that they were now far removed from their
 traditionalroots: Enlightenment we seek around the world; That of the Land’s we knowbut not.Expressing deep faith in the future of his people, Soso Tham says: Though youmay be small and week / Quietly if you have to weep; Who will say you cannotclaim, / Glory and a name. (all the translations by KS Nongkynrih)Reading the thesis on Soso Tham by Nongkynrih opened up a totally new world ofperception and experience for me. Soso Tham’s lyricism, his world view, hisinnate love for his people and his faith in their future have all made SosoTham the father figure of Khasi poetry.I wondered why I had not read anything by this poet before. When we were incollege in Shillong in the 

Re: [Assam] Outrage

[Mridul Bhuyan]

Eventhough for quite some timedue to businessin my work and personal life, I didn't find time to respond to the messages on circulation in assam net, I find it difficult to resist myself from responding to this message.

At the very begining, I sincerely thank Jugal  his team for the wonderful work done for the development of this assam net, where people like us have been able to vent out our feelings to some extent. Please keep up the good work. There is hardly any forum of this kind as far as assam is concerned.

I am a member of this forum for quite sometime now, say, about 4/5 years, I guess. Well as per Ram Da, I am 'otherwise active'. -:) I am aware and also have observed atleast 2/3 timessome kind of personal vendettadoing the rounds in this forum. Although, I am dead against about this kind of attempt, I didn't react as I was not aware of the background of this issue.

This forum provides an excellent opportunity to the people to voice their concerns, their thinkings for the betterment of the assamese community. Many of the members of this forum are extremely brilliant and prolific in airing their views, which I feel in some way or the other helping our intellect in one way or the other. We should try to make this forum as strong as ever instead of ruining it.

Mridul Bhuyan

Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Extremely well said Ram. And your observations about some amongst us are incisive.But I do realize, that some, in fact many, while they may or do not condone such despicable activities of the slime-bags amongst us, still feel uncomfortableabout speaking out and be counted on the side of what is right. Many are AFRAID to do so, particularly in THIS context, lest they get branded 'terrorist sympathizer' and other such mindless labels by these cowards who really are the extremists in the community.The coward wrote:It is distressing to find that your University's resources are being used to foment trouble and facilitate terrorist activities.If these good folks I write about above value the services of Assam Net, they ought to speak out. If they agree that this jerk's misdeed is an act of sabotage,they
 ought to speak out. Because this guy and his ilk ( no Alpana, it is not a woman), knowing he scored by creating trouble, even if only momentarily, will strike again, and again, taking advantage of the increased degree of sensitivity amongst the populace post 9/11 or 7/7.It will be understandable, if the silent netters agree with the slanderous and outrageous charges, like the above, and thus express tacit approval with their silence. But I like to think, no reasonable person would.Ordinarily, no authority would react to a poison-pen letter from an unknown person. But the post 9/11 concerns changed the equation. No one will risk not acting, and thus either creating inconvenience or even serious trouble, depending upon circumstances.Ordinarily I could not care less about idiots like these. I have been the target of their attacks so many times, that I don't even pay heed to them.But it is different NOW. If
 we do not or cannot voice outrage when we need to, we would be party to ENCOURAGING and SUPPORTING people like these, by default.That is why I am making it the issue I am.c-daAt 11:17 AM -0500 8/24/05, Ram Sarangapani wrote:C'da,Thanks for that vote of confidence. We are actually a couple of meekpeople, but in some things, we do drum up that courage :) I was angry that I did not hear a word from netters after I posted news of this outrage. Sadly, once again, I was reminded of the adage that cowards die a thousand deaths.In general, about our community, there are things we might want torecognize and maybe address: These are just my observations.First, there are these anti-social, anti-community perpetrators. Theynever have the guts to confront issues that bother them in the open.These
 people will then resort to under-handed tactics, either usingpseudo names or what not.We have seen these in the past, and largely let them pass as hicups ina growing community, where we practically know each other.In the past, we have always advocated that Assamese not sue otherAssamese, even when there was irrefutable proof of the identity andmisdoings of the culprit.This is not in our tradition or whence we come from.But, times are a changing. Your decision to take legal action isprobably the best thing to do to combat and stem this menace.Second, about Kharkhowadom itself.There are many who silently read Assamnet. These people should alsorealize, that even though they do not actively participate, they stilltake 'immense enjoyment' in reading all the 'garbage' we write. If thenet ceases to exist because of some lunatic running around
 makingfalse accusations, these silent netters would also lose an avenue.In fact, one prominent silent netter (silent netter), once told me'Moi Assamnet no porohun, ni likhun, blah, blah blah.'. But lo andbehold, that SN found it useful to post and notify us about histrail-blazing