Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
Accept all that OCR, currency, scene description, Bar code reading, facial recognition and document scanning is handled by an azure cloud instance that makes your iPhone look about as powerful as a toaster. The app you run on your
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@89, again, they use a cross-platform SDK that supports iOS and Android. I significantly doubt that the code of Seeing AI uses iOS specific code for everything. No doubt they use the SDK wherever possible and only use iOS-specific
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Um, well if I use it it wont crash too, but if a newer Android version comes out and I happen to update then it will. What kind of logic is this I use the app and it didn't crash? It's not my point anyways, I am just saying
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
87 nailed it. I used it and though its quality was poor at best, it never crashed on me.
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Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
I'm pretty sure that it also ran fine for a bunch of people who didn't feel the need to shout that it was doing so from the rooftops.We hear more about a product's fuck ups than we do its successes , the gpd win subreddit being
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
Oh yes, KNFB reader was ported so well that it crashes after every major Android update and it takes forever for them to update a supposed old library they are using. That's very acceptable for such an expensive app, thank god I
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
For those who use Commentary, that screen reader does support Direct Touch input.Good example is the work that was done with having the Advance Braille and Soft Braille keyboards work without needing to suspend Talk Back first.So
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
For those who use Commentary, that screen reader does support Direct Touch input.Good example is the work that was done with having the Advance Braille and Soft Braille keyboards work without needing to suspend Talk Back first.So
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
Yeah. I'm not buying the it'd be super complicated to port it over bs either, KNFB reader got ported to android and windows, despite using voiceover's vertical swipes in item picker thing.All of the channel changes can happen
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
I didn't miss read your post and yes I saw it on IOS and I still think volume keys could work. I never said it was an excuse for Microsoft not to have Seeing AI on Android. I said their's no excuse why Microsoft shouldn't add
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I didn't miss read your post and yes I saw it on IOS and I still think volume keys could work. I never said it was an excuse for Microsoft not to have Seeing AI on Android. I said their's no excuse why Microsoft shouldn't add
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
It's the kind of slider one can find in ibooks, the one you flip the pages with? If so, couldn't the same be achieved using a so called spinner control on android?Note: I haven't had an android phone in a verry long time, so I
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
It's not an excuse not to be on Android, please read my posts carefully, I have only said it takes longer than you think. I never said it wont be on Android because of sliders, that is ridiculous. Sliders work using volume keys
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
They could manage the sliders by using the volume keys. There's no excuse for them not to have it on Android.
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Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
It's not nearly as easy as you think. Let me explain what a few lines of code means: First, Seeing AI has an explore photo mode, which basically allows you to move your finger around the screen to hear different elements
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
I mean, there's always AIRA, but that has a big price tag on it, which can... persuade users from subscribing it. Soundscape would be nice to have... I as going to use that to aid me in navigating my College Campus, but since its
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
Yeah seeing AI was written using a cross platform SDK. At most they'll have to change jestures to make them work with talkback. I'm not sure about sound scape though.
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Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
Given that MS still hasn't made Seeing AI available on android yet, despite the number of people asking for it, clearly indicates, to me at least, that itsnot happening. Which is pothetic because they can make it for android
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
Just wanted to share that if you're using an IOS/iPad OS device, you have the ability to make a Siri shortcut for the Google Assistant, which has been around for a while now.Interestingly, ya can do that for most assistance
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
Well, it was discussed probably more than a year ago on the eyes_free list, the fact that Essential fixed this after user feedback, but as far as I know, I don't think there was exact explanation on how it was done. We just know
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
hadi.gsf wrote:@Omar AlvaradoHave you tried google lookout yet?You have to get the APK file since it's for pixel and samsung devices onlyNo, but I've heard of it.pulseman45 wrote:I'm frankly not sure Motorola is to blame
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
@Omar AlvaradoHave you tried google lookout yet?You have to get the APK file since it's for pixel and samsung devices only
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Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
I'm frankly not sure Motorola is to blame for Talkback fingerprint gestures no longer working in Android 9. It has happened to so many non-pixel phones already. Even the Essential Phone had that problem when Android 9 was released
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
Hi.Motorola did something really strange when I upgraded to android 8 to 9. I can no longer use talk back fingerprint gestures.For me honestly it's iOS for many of the reasons people have already stated here, though for me there's
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
Hi.TO the person talking about distopia, I think it's the best reddit app we have, it's fast and easy to use.I've not tested android that much but as far as I nkow; an app like that for it doesn't exist.
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Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
@67, thanks for that tip; I couldn't purchase ZDSR (I don't even remember why) but the demo seemed primitive to me. It had a lot of features I couldn't use, and that's what caused the "This is primitive" thought.
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A bit of personal thing here:I have a lot of chinese friends, and know what? Some of them are closer to me than my own family, this is why I do try and do my best to defend them as best as I can.@Ethin, ZDSR is by no means
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
Sad days if we are basing our suspicions on software with the way a government of a particular country is. That's all I'll say. When I wrote the post about China, I had Russia in my mind as well, and I think the exact same way
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I am not Chinese and I am not personally offended, but I think it's good of you to recognize where you stepped here. As I said, it's not like you were blatantly attacking anyone. On a racism scale, this was like a 0.5-1. Pretty
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@63, I have no friends in China at this time, unfortunately. I appologise for my racism; that was not my intent. I've re-read the offending post and retract post 60. I'm not going to delete it though for obvious reasons.
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So then, okay. If you are wary of the Chinese government, goodness knows there are plenty of examples in the media to support that.But at this stage, you are trying to defend wariness of CSR based on the actions of the Chinese
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So then, okay. If you are wary of the Chinese government, goodness knows there are plenty of examples in the media to support that.But at this stage, you are trying to defend wariness of CSR based on the actions of the Chinese
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@61, I was specifically talking about the government, not the rest of China. I had no intention of being racist.
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I'm just gonna step in here real quick and say something.Ethin, your post is definitely racist. And the post you were trying to defend? Basically the same thing.If you'd like to demonstrate with facts why this supposedly justified
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
The below post is from an American point of view. I cannot speak for other countries.I think the term "racist" is being thrown around here without the users of the word actually knowing what that means. The term Racist
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
I think the term "racist" is being thrown around here without the users of the word actually knowing what that means. The term Racist is defined as "a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
I think the term "racist" is being thrown around here without the users of the word actually knowing what that means. The term Racist is defined as "a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
nidza07 wrote:Well, like any download, nothing special really. Just have some sort of website where you write basic info about commentary and give a download page, update it whenever a new version is available and that's it.Yeah
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
Yeah, agree, also put some information in for new users of Android how they can install the thing, just to be sure.Regarding the software, It's not like I only mistrust software from China, maybe this came out the wrong way. What
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
Well, like any download, nothing special really. Just have some sort of website where you write basic info about commentary and give a download page, update it whenever a new version is available and that's it.
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Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
@55 how you see the download to be handled? I have a web server, so...
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Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
Well Simba, you can view it like this. If you create a software, game, whatever, there is no reason for me to say hey let's run full virus scans on this thing because it is very suspicious, it comes from Germany and I don't
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
Hi.again, I didn't say that I "Won't" use CSR, af ar as I remember I said that I will use and try it out in the next cupple of days when the whole christmas situation dies down abit and I have more time on my hands
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But this attitude is a bit racistish, even if not directly racist.It's like i would say: I won't use software X, because it's from Germany and as we know Germany was responsible for one of the most bloody wars in the world.That
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
Hi.At 47 well, at leased in my personal opinion someone can't be called racist just because he or she is a bit werry when it comes to chinese software. Especially here in Germany where companys like Huawai want to get
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
Well, not anymore on iOS. There's a new client in beta called Dystopia for reddit which is built for voice over users.How easy it is to browse reddit with bacon reader on android? can you see comment levels?
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Best Reddit Client anywhere, is Bacon Reader:http://baconreader.com/
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Hey guys, how accessible is reddit, with commentary or talkback?One plus rules, I'd like to get one, but the only reason that's holding me back is the Dystopia for reddit in ios. So what's your experience with reddit and android
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
Ok, so my below thoughts are more from an America point of view than the rest of the world, thus hopefully it makes sense in the end.Much of the United States (regardless if a product is more advanced than anything out
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Ok, so my below thoughts are more from an America point of view than the rest of the world, thus hopefully it makes sense in the end.Much of the United States (regardless if a product is more advanced than anything out
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
Ok, so my below thoughts are more from an America point of view than the rest of the world, thus hopefully it makes sense in the end.Much of the United States (regardless if a product is more advanced than anything out
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
To clarify some misinformation, commentary does not require root access. It uses it if available, but does not require it. When it is available, it allows some rather cool things like disabling Talkback as soon as you launch
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If you have any questions regarding Commentary please ask. If ijt comes to the group, everyone participating there was a volunteer. I started this group to make it a place where people could ask questions. Then people wanted
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
Ah,For automatic translation for example (which talkback/voice assistant lacks), I do believe it uses Baidu. It clearly even states what is being used in the help and support menu section.Commentary is indeed not for everyone
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Good morning.Firs things first, I'm not an all out apple fanboy and would defend everything that apple is doing at the moment, to be quite honest their stance on political matters especially with the chinese government
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
Just to clarify,At least on my Galaxy S10E, Commentary works perfectly fine with out needing to root the phone.Just make sure to have a screen reader running for the first time before turnning on Commentary, just in case ya may
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
Hi,Thank you all for your thoughts and suggestions. At this point, I've had it with Apple and I'd like to try something new, so I'm still inclined towards Android.I like what I'm hearing about Commentary, but I'm also concerned
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Honestly, my only concern with using Commentary at this point is when it comes back to relaying accessibility needs to developers. Like it or not, Talkback is probably the first thing people see when looking up google
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
For everyone, Here's link to the Samsung Voice Assistant Tutorial/User Guide , for those who would like to explore/read it.
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Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
I've still got a Pixel 3A, that phone is actually decent. Generally phone technology just keeps getting worse; people are more interested in providing people with higher-resolution cameras and all that jaz instead of improving
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
Let's face it, the golden age of first party mobile screen readers is basically over at this point.The talkback developers have stopped listening to their users and are more interested in shutting down discussion of third party
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
Let's face it, the golden age of first party mobile screen readers is basically over at this point.The talkback developers have basically stopped listening to their users and are more interested in shutting down discussion
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@36, I am not "judging" what features are and aren't important. Android has language switching, iOS has language switching. Is Android's method inefficient? Sure, but there are always alternative screen readers. Again, d
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@36, I am not "judging" what features are and aren't important. Android has language switching, iOS has language switching. Is Android's method inefficient? Sure, but there are always alternative screen readers. Again, d
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@36, I am not "judging" what features are and aren't important. Android has language switching, iOS has language switching. Is Android's method inefficient? Sure, but there are always alternative screen readers. Again, d
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Ethin, perhaps you do not need these features, but you are not somebody to judge what important features are. Do you consider switching languages not important? If yes, you are really selfish and don't want to understand the needs
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Ethin, perhaps you do not need these features, but you are not somebody to judge what important features are. Do you consider switching languages not important? If yes, you are really selfish and don't want to understand the needs
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So, For those who have a samsung device and are able to upgrade to Android 10, there's three noticable additions I have found:1. While using an app such as youtube and you're in the "published/premiered on" descriptio
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@Ethin I agree well said!
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Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
@30, my point is that it shouldn't be dependent on whether one screen reader on one platform is better than another on another platform to determine that platforms "value", which is literally the basis of every supposed
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@30, my point is that it shouldn't be dependent on whether one screen reader on one platform is better than another on another platform to determine that platforms "value", which is literally the basis of every supposed
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@30, my point is that it shouldn't be dependent on whether one screen reader on one platform is better than another on another platform, which is literally the basis of every supposed complaint about Android. You *donot* need
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Yep, I saw the forum and it certainly needs more content. For starters though, a download page is definitely the priority in my opinion.
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@27:There is a forum for Commentary, though not a lot is on it. If people wanted to add stuff though...https://jieshuo-screenreader.com/forum/
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@27:There is a forum for Commentary, though absolutely nothing is on it. If people wanted to add stuff though...https://jieshuo-screenreader.com/forum/
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Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
I am not talking about accessibility of apps, I don't ever expect that and I am saying right now that should not happen. Not every app can be made accessible. I am talking about a standard for phone manufacturers, talk about
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@22, that doesn't make TB unworthy/worse than VO. Does it lack some features that VO has? Certainly. Does that make it somehow inferior? Nope. Apples to oranges, NVDA/JAWS to Orca. Completely different screen readers, completely
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
@nuno, that's a huge improvement at least. Hope it can work outside of websites though, as mentioned previously. Will have to give it a go on the pixel at some point.
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Or perhaps the problem of no complete documentation? I'm not trying to rush it, but stop accusing your future users, it wont work out well for you. I understand completely that translation is not an easy task. However, we still
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Oh and about guys complaining that CSR is not a whole lot better than TB, if someone cannot use the tool given then its only there own problem
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Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
@23, try for yoursxself. Left/right swipes toggle navigation moves and up/down actually move.
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Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
@TheGreatCarver something to keep in mind about the Pixel4. Soli for skipping songs works about 8 out of 10 times. There are times where it just won't work and times where it works great. Soli works every time to quiet alarms
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Fully agreed. Also a pixel user, last tested on the latest version of android 10. I'm not saying there haven't been improvements, but considering how far ahead apple have been, there's really no excuse for google at this point
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Fully agreed. Also a pixel user, last tested on the latest version of android 10. I'm not saying there haven't been improvements, but considering how far ahead apple have been, there's really no excuse for google at this point
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Issues I mentioned are core Talkback issues unrelated to any manufacturer happening on latest and greatest Google stock hardware. If that isn't as smooth as possible then I do not know what should be. I agree that some problems
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The problem here I think is that *every* issue people attribute to android is a massive generalization. That's because Android is open and allows any vendor to do pretty much whatever they like with it. Android is not iOS, so I
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The problem here I think is that *every* issue people attribute to android is a massive generalization. That's because Android is open and allows any vendor to do pretty much whatever they like with it. Android is not iOS, so I
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
The problem here I think is that *every* issue people attribute to android is a massive generalization. That's because Android is open and allows any vendor to do pretty much whatever they like with it. Android is not iOS, so I
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
I switched the local contects gesture to actions. If I swipe up and than right I can quickly swipe to delete.
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Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
Sorry, custom actions are being replaced by what exactly? By using nothing? That's so bad it kills the productivity a lot on Android. To give some examples, let's go in the mail app:On iOS, I am swiping through the list of emails
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Edit: I haven't tried commentary screen reader, I'll give it a shot and post my thoughts. Looking forward to it.Strong language aheadIOS is good, I'll give you that, but why pay $1600.00AUD for an iPhone x, when I can pay
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Strong language aheadIOS is good, I'll give you that, but why pay $1600.00AUD for an iPhone x, when I can pay for a samsung galaxy A20 for only $299.00AUD.They both have fingerprint, face ID, cgood cameras, and who the fuck needs
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Oh and now less officially.iOS is a piece of shit and @1.Android is goinn away from the custom actions thing which was used from Android 8 to 9 extensively, and now it is replaced by other operation methods.
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Hello!I would like to report that we have added a proper web navigation for the Commentary Screenreader some 3 months or so, so plrase refrain from posting misinformation.Thank you!
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Hello!I wiould like to report that we have added a rotor for the Commentary Screenreader some 3 months or so, so plrase refrain from posting misinformation.Thank you!
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13.2 was fine when I tried it, 13.3 I hated however.
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Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
Yeah, what google are doing with the pixel is a step in the right direction. That's still not the case for 99 per cent of android phones though.As for IOS 13, 13.2 and 13.3 together fixed most of the bugs. I used it for a good
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@11 I don't personally mind the 1 finger swipe up and down, or the two finger scrolling. To each there own though. And commentary actually has better vibrations, I even admin, talkbacks vibrations are loud as fuck. And yeah
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The first Pixel was released in 2016 and support just ended for it. That's 3 years not 2 and you can probably still side load updates after that. I've gotten along well enough with out the rotor I don't even miss it. Talkback only
Re: Suggestions for Switching from iOS to Android (Pixel 4)
1. No real kind of rotor. I'm sorry, but talkback's shitty little swipe up and down to change navigation modes thing just doesn't count, nore does commentary's weird janky gestures thing.2. Gestures. IDK what it is with android
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