Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Liam nailed the problem on the head perfectly. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/446464/#p446464 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : audiogame via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Oh come on liam, its true ma man. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/446459/#p446459 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Draq via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Interestingly enough, there's this topic from last year that talks about the Blind Mice Movie Vault. That topic also raises some interesting points. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/446457/#p446457 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Liam via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright juan reina wrote:And one last thing, the only ones who are doing this are the ones who have and don't want to share with others. Mister I have Scramble and i'm constantly showing that off to everyone that I have it and noone elce has it I meen what?Ooph

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : juan reina via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright I hate to tell you, Liam, but you are the only one bitching as of now. Have you ever played A mainstreme game on an emulator with OCR? Let me tell you something, sir, those, companys, that you are speaking of, Give me one form, Just one form, of evidence

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : swigjr23 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright I agree with Liam on this one. If you don't like it, you are free to leave. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/446451/#p446451 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Liam via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright It will blow over when people stop fanning the flames. let me preface this next message by pointing out I'm in a really bad mood so I'm going to go no filter for a moment.There are a set of rules that you are all asked to follow. instead of bitching

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright It ain't gonna blow over when Mr. I have a college degree but I can't communicate worth a fuck continually pisses people off every day. That's why this has kept on like it is. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/446440/#p446440 -- Audiogames

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : keyIsFull via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright this is another reason we should have read only access to archives of the admin mailing list I think. And yeah, I agree with jade here that this will probably all blow over eventually. And g97, there will still be plenty of utility if you decide

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : SkyGuardian via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright I didn’t mean to react the way I acted honestly, I was just mad, Because the decision at first seemed too quick for me because I didn’t know about this at all Sorry Jade URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/446420/#p446420 -- Audiogames-reflector

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : je97 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Dutch lawyer on holiday, unfortunately so can't give you an update on whether you actually needed to close that thread yet. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/446407/#p446407 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Consider this, Flackers.The decision to make me an admin came at the same time other decisions came down. We were pushing to re-open discussion with Liam about him coming back. We were trying to figure what the heck to do with the vault and CP and all

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : flackers via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Just to clear a little thing up. I wasn't suggesting Jade was targetting me on a personal level. I was saying that a poster, any poster, it just happened to be me, posted a comment saying this thread looks like it's definitley going to be closed, so

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright See, that's a perfectly valid point, and I don't ever mind fielding those.We have differing opinions on what will or will not fragment the community.This actual decision to lock that one thread is hours old. I think it's a little soon to be sure one way

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright @267, your statement is utter nonsense. I am not seeking power on this forum. I do not want it, nor do I care for it. I am not being obsequious towards Jade; I am merely stating an opinion that you very obviously disagree with. I personally do not like

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Oh, also Ethin, I think at least some of us know how you get when you have power of some sort or another. It wouldn't do well for you to seek that out. That is the reason I am guessing you have been so obsequious toward Jayde as of late. URL: https

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : je97 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright I will admit to both not being a very longstanding member of this community, and getting...a little over the top in my criticisms. Calling a decision stupid isn't a personal attack, calling a decision stupid is a statement of opinion: the best of us make

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Jayde wrote:But being passive just because they aren't present is morally bankrupt. It's the epitomy of passing the buck, the equivalent of goofing off at work because your boss is out sick.Yeah but what you're doing is like if the boss is out sick

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Thank you, Ethin. My main thing is rationality. Disagree with me all day if you want to. And sometimes, I know I have to just bloody well let stuff go. I do get that. I'm working on it, with varying degrees of success. But I'm struggling very hard

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Not sure how character assassination will help your argument at all. Not sure how comparing Jade to Hitler will help, either. Is Jade committing mass genocide against any one particular group of individuals? Does Jade exhibit any of the characteristics

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : simba via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Hi.@260, oh, I am willing to cross that border in some situations if I see the need for that.Greetings Moritz. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/446367/#p446367 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Well, for one thing, you may want to ask Liam a bit about that one. He is a developer who appears to have been made upset by a laissez-faire stance about copyrighted material, and the implications it has on paid game development, especially

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : zakc93 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Jayde, can you please explain what exactly it is you think would happen if you left that audio described topic alone? If the site getting a complaint from the company is the issue, then why not take action when that happens? Like so many others have said

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright And now we jump into speculation. First you compare me to Hitler, and now you're claiming I might just be making stuff up because you really don't have anything else to throw at the wall which might stick.You're venturing toward the magical kingdom

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : simba via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Hi.Well, because they maybe don't care about the forum anymore or because Jaide just publicly said that he contacted them when in truth he didn't and thought to himself, hehehe, ideots, they won't notice anyway. Currently, I think everything is possible

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Mitch via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright What I wonder though is why Richard and Sendermen never seem to respond to your requests. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/446339/#p446339 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : simba via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Huh, little Adolf or rather Jaide took the over administration part in his own hands it seams.We do it like that and noone should say anything because I am the greatest fish in the pond and everyone else doesn't know shit.Greetings Moritz. URL: https

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Aaron, I wrote my post after seeing Flackers's post. His was at 10:31, mine at 10:47, so there was no overlap. I'll own that.But you'll note what I -didn't do.I didn't delete the thread. If I was really targeting Flackers, the way he thinks

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright thinks forum is over-administrated.*Single-handedly takes an idea and rams it in front of everyone's faces then says we're going to do it whether you like it or not*-Jayde 2019 URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/446315/#p446315 -- Audiogames

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : aaron via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Right. I wasn't going to do this, but I'm saying it. I believe we're supposed to be a team, but now this is forcing my hand. I don't like naming names but here is what happened and how this very topic came about.It was Liam who re-sparked the copyright

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright This forums place ended long before Jade stepped up; it ended when the walter thing took off, possibly een before that. It possibly ended long, long before that. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/446308/#p446308 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : SkyGuardian via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright like i keep saying, ironcross is right, jade, i am not going to stand for your crap, ban me if you want, but i am speaking my mind about this, you started this and you are taking all of this shit too far, we lost a lot thanks to you and i hope you know

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Funny thing: I actually agree that this place is overadministrated.As in, I don't like that we feel the need to be as present as we do. I don't like that things keep popping up. Unauthorized code forks, people stealing from each other and insulting one

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : flackers via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright I agree with you Ironcross. I'm a great believer in voting with your feet. The trouble is that this forum is a great resource for technical info as it relates to being blind, and as such, there really is nothing comparable. If there were, and it had one

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Flackers, we're just going to have to agree to disagree. There is no personal vendetta here.Ironcross, if you'd care to stick to facts, I think we'd all be happier for it. Being upset that this is happening? Fine. Having opinions on my communication

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright You all keep circling around the wrong issue. The issue isn't ethical, moral, or even legal. It's the intrusion of Big Brother and the misuse of power, running a site like pretty much no other forum does. The fact is, if copyright notices get sent

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : flackers via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Yeah, and last time I apologised and accepted I'd probably jumped the gun, but come off it Jade. I'm not five-years-old. Trying to pass that off as coincidence will fool no one. And you haven't closed my thread because it's perfectly within the rules, so

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : flackers via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Yeah, and last time I apologised and accepted I'd probably jumped the gun, but come off it Jade. I'm not five-years-old. Trying to pass that off as coincidence will fool no one. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/446278/#p446278 -- Audiogames

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : je97 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright I'll do some digging for you. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/446279/#p446279 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright @244, yep, that. You don't make a claim that that company is going out of existence like that and expect me not to demand proof. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/446276/#p446276 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : je97 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Sorry, do you mean proof that metaregistrar is a company in serious financial doodoo? That's anecdotal, I'm afraid; I'll find out where the people I heard it off got it from though. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/446273/#p446273

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright @242, again, please provide verifiable evidence of your claims. And of any "remaining problems". Again, whois may be wrong; it does say that, in the notice: "NOTICE: The expiration date displayed in this record is the date the registra

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : je97 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright I'll make sure that the opinion I get from whoever I end up getting it from comes from a company/academic adresss, with a signature confirming the persons title or position. I feel qualified to speak on UK and US copyright law, not Dutch copyright law

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : je97 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright I'll make sure that the opinion I get from whoever I end up getting it from comes from a company/academic adresss, with a signature confirming the persons title or position. I feel qualified to speak on UK and US copyright law, not Dutch copyright law

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright @240, and, again, we run into that same problem. We can't! If (1) you are actually a lawyer, (2) you are trustworthy, and (3) you are correct, this forum is screwed until the admins *actually care*. Mind providing verifiable evidence to ensure

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : je97 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Shit. Talk to the owners, right now, urgently. That company is going out of business. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/446264/#p446264 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Considering that the latest changelog was a month ago, I would not say that is not recently. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/446263/#p446263 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright @236, according to whois, the registrar is Metaregistrar BV, located in the netherlands. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/446259/#p446259 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : je97 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright If you can find out I'll go ahead and find you a legal opinion, I know enough people in that particular field of law to get you one for free, or otherwise out of my own pocket. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/446253/#p446253 -- Audiogames

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright There is a new thread posted by Flackers asking about where they are going to talk about this stuff, if not here. I have not closed that thread and don't intend to. I closed the vault because it is essentially a hotbed of people asking for x or providing

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright @232, no, I don't remember exactly where its hosted. Its somewhere in the EU though, which may or may not make things worse. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/446252/#p446252 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : je97 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright If you'd like to show that your not being petty about this, Jayde, give the AV thread community 3 days to work out a new place to put its discussion. I don't like the decision you've come to, but if you did that you'd at least avoid what pretty much

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Flackers, this is not the first time you have mischaracterized my actions as personally offensive and directed toward you. You were wrong then, and you're wrong now. Believe it or don't.This has been in the wind, as evidenced by this topic, for literally

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : keyIsFull via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright yeah, you might be able to spin it as purely a coincidence, but I'm not seeing it. The closure of the topic was timed very conveniently. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/446247/#p446247 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : je97 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Do you have any idea where the forum is hosted? I can give you a pretty good idea if it's UK or whether it's a DMCA request in America, but your milage may vary in other countries. Where the owners reside might give you a pretty good idea. URL: https

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright That's true too. We have done so. Because if we want to be taken seriously as a community - and I'd argue that we do - we cannot be represented by the mindset that we're entitled to free stuff just because we want it.If I was a mainstream dev, showed up

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright @226, and the nothing to worry about is worrying. I take it you know what happens if the admins fail to respond to a take-down notice -- or whatever the equivalent would be where the forum is hosted? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/446243

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : je97 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright yes, I must echo 227. That isn't the action of an admin who is only going about his/her duties. That's the action of someone who likes powertrips. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/446244/#p446244 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : flackers via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Jade, you're going nowhere near a courtroom over this and you know it. Stop making out you're at risk of prosecution over the vault thread because it's beyond ridiculous. But worse than that, closing down the vault thread immediately after I suggested

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright @223, and the mods are doing that. Again... what else can they do bar just pray to some deity that the owners do respond to copyright complaints? How can we trust that the owners will do their duties? I think your missing, or ignoring, the fact that its

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright @223, and the mods are doing that. Again... what else can they do bar just pray to some deity that the owners do respond to copyright complaints? How can we trust that the owners will do their duties? I think your missing, or ignoring, the fact that its

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright @223, and the mods are doing that. Again... what else can they do bar just pray to some deity that the owners do respond to copyright complaints? How can we trust that the owners will do their duties? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/446238

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : je97 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright and until the owners say anything? You have absolutely nothing to worry about from anybody! Yay, isn't that nice. 1. You have nothing to worry about from the copyright holders as they'll contact the owners, not you.2. You have nothing to worry about from

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : je97 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright I've never argued that stealing is okay, I've argued that you don't need to care. Nothing legally is obliging you to care. You've chosen to take this step beyond what the law dictates entirely on your own enitiative, without even bothering to find out

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright @221, thank you for highlighting the major area of discourse -- the owners. If only the damn owners would say something useful on this issue, tis would all be over with. And I'm not misreading your posts, I am interpreting them how they are written

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright You are not idiots who think stealing is okay. Okay, let's challenge this, shall we?First of all, I'm not calling any of you idiots. Let's get that up front.But let's suss out a scenario:Sighted person wants to watch House. They have to have Netflix

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : je97 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright @218:1. The copyright owners: as far as we know, don't care. Doesn't make it suddenly OK though.Oh my God, how many times do I need to say this? Unless you have some weird moral reason to be protecting these peoples copyright preemptively, you have

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright @219, I agre with you on that. Mostly. My issue is that, since this is a forum-breaking change, and is a huge issue, they should have their input. This topic sould've not devolved like this, but it has. This entire issue shouldn't have devolved like

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Here's how Isee it, instead of this black/white painting that post 212 draws:1. The copyright owners: as far as we know, don't care. Doesn't make it suddenly OK though.2. The site owners: are incommunicado and have not given any input on this matter

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright @ethyn I told you based on what I believe they would respond to such a thing. They responded to any type of forum breaking issue that occured, and this would definitely be one. Not to mention that if they didn't, it would cause them a lot of harm, so

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Here's how Isee it, instead of this black/white painting that post 212 draws:1. The copyright owners: as far as we know, don't care. Doesn't make it suddenly OK though.2. The site owners: are incommunicado and have not given any input on this matter

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : je97 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright That's where you come in. You can moderate content, and can respond appropriately to a take down notice. If you don't have access to the websites contact email address, that's a whole heap worse, and if the owners will either not take an interest or give

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Those mostly non existent owners keep your forum up, and if they did not exist you would not be posting this. It's their decision, but whatever you say I guess. You don't own the forum, even if you think you do. This should not have been your decision

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Let's be real here. The larger reason the community is against this is because we're taking some toys away that have been left for far, far, far too long. It's the same as when you get this overpowered sword of doom and it kills everything in one hit

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright @210, your point would be valid except for the fact that the owners have been unresponsive (supposedly) on the mod list. That sounds more like disinterest than anything else, and that's a bad sign. The only issues they handle these days are server issues

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright @210, your point would be valid except for the fact that the mods hav been unresponsive (supposedly) on the mod list. That sounds more like disinterest than anything else, and that's a bad sign. The only issues they handle these days are server issues

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : je97 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Can also point out that you as admins are not legally responsible for what is on this site. The owners are. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/446220/#p446220 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : je97 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Exactly who are you appeasing here? 1. The copyright owners: as far as we know, don't care2. The site owners: don't care3. The web host: as far as we're aware, don't care4. The community: seems to be against the stance you're taking URL: https

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright If one or both of these mostly nonexistent owners comes back and wants us to go back to the way it was, we'll listen to that, even if it makes me nervous to do so. Until or unless that happens, though, this is the course we're taking, at least where

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright @205, how so? By even posting a terms of service document that requires that no copyrighted materials be posted without prior permission, you are attempting to make your site copyright-violation-free. Iguess then that no business should post TOS

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright @205, how so? By even posting a terms of service document that requires that no copyrighted materials be posted without prior permission, you are attempting to make your site copyright-violation-free. Iguess then that no business should post TOS

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright @203 you are right, but isn't that their responsibility? Richard and Sander should not be the one saying no, there is no need to do this, like jayde said in one of his posts, they should be the ones saying hey, copyright is a problem, deal

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright The vault is sharing MP3 tracks of movies which, for all intensive purposes, act as the same thing for blind or mostly blind individuals. Many of us here actually have some vision and might benefit from a movie in its entirety, may be able to actually

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : je97 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Since you brought up reddit, let me introduce you to something I found regarding reddits copyright policy.https://www.reddithelp.com/en/categorie … fringement They don't actively screen for copyrighted material, they do what pretty much everybody else

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright @205, how so? By even posting a terms of service document that requires that no copyrighted materials be posted without prior permission, you are attempting to make your site copyright-violation-free. Iguess then that no business should post TOS

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright @205, how so? By even posting a terms of service document that requires that no copyrighted materials be posted without prior permission, you are attempting to make your site copyrightviolation-free. Iguess then that no business should post TOS documents

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : flackers via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright The vault isn't sharing complete movies/TV shows that sighted people can download and just disable the AD track. They're just mp3 recordings that are being accessed by maybe a few hundred people at most, and will always be of super marginal interest

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright No, their not "recorded audio", they are, literally, the audio track of DVS movies. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/446207/#p446207 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : flackers via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright The vault isn't sharing complete movies/TV shows that sighted people can download and just disable the AD track. They're just mp3 recordings that are being accessed by maybe a few hundred people at most, and will always be of super marginal interest

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : je97 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright @203You have a duty to respond to copyright complaints, not to make sure that your site is entirely free of copyrighted content. You're going further than the law dictates here. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/446206/#p446206 -- Audiogames

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : flackers via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright The vault isn't sharing complete movies/TV shows that sighted people can download and just disable the AD track. They're just mp3 recordings that are being accessed by maybe a few hundred people at most, and will always be of super marginal interest

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright @202, aha. So break the law when convenient and be even more of a hypocrite. I see now.What else are the moderators supposed to do about this other than what they've been doing because the main administrators are absolutely useless? I seriously doubt

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright @202, aha. So break the law when convenient and be even more of a hypocrite. I see now. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/446201/#p446201 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : flackers via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright The vault isn't sharing complete movies/TV shows that sighted people can download and just disable the AD track. They're just mp3 recordings that are being accessed by maybe a few hundred people at most, and will always be of super marginal interest

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright @201, what kind of fucked up message is that? First, this is a forum. Second, this forum is *not* run by me or the mods -- at least, not hosted by them. Third, those "random people" as you put it are giant entities. The fact

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : je97 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright @200 Read posts better. I didn't say it was bad, I said learn from them. If you get a complaint, go ahead lock the thread. When you've satisfied the complaint and they've fucked back off under the bridge, where trolls belong, turn a blind eye (pun

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright @198, and that therefore justifies passing around illegal content, now does it, because this community is small and not well known? But its so bd on larger communities? What kind of hypocrisy is that? You either have

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : je97 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Who cares what other random people think? The only person you really need to be concerned about is your hosting provider. If you've got a good one, they'll be happy with the same process I just outlined with the copyright trolls. If you've not, I know

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright @198, and that therefore justifies passing around illegal content, now does it, because this community is small and not well known? But its so bd on larger communities? What kind of hypocrisy is that? URL: https

Re: preparation regarding copyright

2019-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: preparation regarding copyright Okay. If you go and read some of that thread, you end up with something like this:Bob: Hey, has anyone uploaded a pirated version of this commercially available thing yet?Joe: Nope, but hang on and I'll dig around.Lisa: Got ya covered. It's there now.Bob

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