Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @Dark;Those labels sound rather small for bar codes. When you read a label, do you have to pass the pen friend over the label as if scanning a bar code? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=223522#p223522

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @Gene, I think theoretically the pen friend has a label limit, but it is somewhere in the thousands. I'm not too good at guestimating size in inches so I might have got the size of the pen friend's smaller lables wrong, they'r

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Oddly enough, I can easily handle hardware maintenance or repairs myself with no trouble. Even when I could see I often did my hardware work without looking at it because there was often not enough room in the computer case for your hands to do

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Oddly enough, I can easily handle hardware maintenance or repairs myself with no trouble. Even when I could see I often did my hardware work without looking at it because there was often not enough room in the computer case for your hands to do

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @gellman;As I said before, I will no longer respond to your messages, so please stop posting them to meHave a nice day. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=222839#p222839

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Hmmm. Is there an echo here, I'm sure I've heard this line already.gellman wrote:You don't get to define which issues are worthy of criticism.And you do? I'm sorry but I don't accept that.@Dark;Dark wrote:homo blindus w

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Moderation! When a topic is closed that means end of discussion! it does not mean simply up  stakes and move the arguement elsewhere. That means the subject of jaws licensing, freedom scientific, name calling and any matters hitherto pertaining

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @gellman;I give up, it is obvious to me that you will continue to subvert anything I say to suit your own desires. Carry on, people aren't as dumb as you seem to think they are and will see through what you are trying to do, and I fo

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @GeneWarnerYou wrote in the thread 'a few complaints about the blind comunity' in #104:Now, I have a question for you, if this is the software license for JAWS 16, and JAWS 16 was released more than six months ago, why the over long d

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Hmmm. Is there an echo here, I'm sure I've heard this line already.gellman wrote:You don't get to define which issues are worthy of criticism.And you do? I'm sorry but I don't accept that.By the way, your continu

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @GeneWarner"No I am not, however, I am also not willing to throw a blanket of blame over everyone at Freedom Scientific for the bad acts of a few misguided souls."There are basically two  implied factual statements in what you say.(1

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Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @Gene, on the offense issue, what I mean is usually people who preface a sentence with "I don't want to offend you but" followed by a question about sight are coming out of the perception of believing you are an example of

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @gellman;No I am not, however, I am also not willing to throw a blanket of blame over everyone at Freedom Scientific for the bad acts of a few misguided souls.Now, I have a question for you, if this is the software license for JAWS 16, and JAWS

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Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @Gene, the family situation I find worryingly believable, however I do not agree with Gellman entirely on the political correctness and normals issue.  everybody in society has varying power relations, people vary in intelligence, physical

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @Gene, the family situation I find worryingly believable, however I do not agree with Gellman entirely on the political correctness and normals issue.  everybody in society has varying power relations, people vary in intelligence, physical

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @GeneWarnerAre you seriously asserting that inserting sleazy clauses in a license is a 'mistake'?Are you seriously asserting that using a software patent to chill competition is a 'mistake'?Of course it isn'; and we sh

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Because corporations are made up of people, and people make mistakes. If you made a bad business decision, would you prefer to recieve constructive criticism, or be maligned behind your back by a vengeful public.And if you can't sho

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @GeneWarnerSorry, but attacking a corporation is not equivalent with being intolerant of individuals, not even close.A sleezy license which one must assume has been scrutinized by lawyers is not a 'mistake' but a deliberate decision t

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity One complaint I have with the blind and visually impaired community is how hypocritical they are. They complain about people treating them badly, yet they are so intolerant of other people when they make mistakes.Take this thing with Freedom

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Sounds like you were in the downtown area of Chicago, I lived for six and a half years in River City right on the Chicago River about a quarter mile south of the downtown loop. I absolutely loved it there, however, that was before I lost my

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity While Chicago has its flaws, it struck me as a completely different world from anywhere I've visited in Florida (except maybe Disney, because they actually have amazing buses and ferries and trains). I went to Chicago once with a group fr

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @gellman;He probably might, he's so tight fisted, he'll drive two hours instead of just one hour simply to avoid paying a couple of dollars on tolls. Then he turns around and complains that it took two hours to get there, then compl

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Hmmm.I never had issue with family jean.No the biggest issue is with the religious people.I understand and respect your religion which is why I let you do things to me prey for me etc.However that is as far as I will go I will not join your

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @GeneWarnerI feel with you, so just imagine how unequally people born with blindness are treated at every stages of their life.It would have been more honest of your family simply to state that you aren't welcome, because if the rules o

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity It's not just society that mistreats us, I'm mistreated by my own family.My brother once told me where I might be able to get a job, the catch was he wanted 25% of my income for as long as I had the job. I'm not opposed to paying

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity It's not just society that mistreats us, I'm mistreated by my own family.My brother once told me where I might be able to get a job, the catch was he wanted 25% of my income for as long as I had the job. I'm not opposed to paying

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @GeneWarnerPutting blind children in specialized schools may be the best (or least bad) alternative, when other 'normal' children don't want to play with them.I have no time for the politically correct mantra that normal people

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity I know what you mean about corruption, when The Lighthouse for the Blind started, it was well funded and staffed and really did some good work to help the blind and visually impaired. But about ten or so years ago, the people in the Pinellas

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Well.I think in fareness since I know someone in the industry they have it just about right.In my day schools would get funded for disabled but there were no controls on what the cash was supposed for leading to misuse of funds.There are laws

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @Gene, yes, specialized schools do have this issue, although unfortunately it's the ones who  adapt to the environment and can't live outside it who tend to have the most trouble. @Afrim, I have met blind couples who live together

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Specialized schools for the blind may help to teach blind people the skills they'll need to live in a sighted world. But I wonder if separating the blind people from sighted people by putting them in separate schools instead of the p

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Hi all.[[wow]], just [[wow]] this is a heavvy thing.Firstly, While I don't think everything should be free or low cost because of my dissability I do think that if I am  entitled to something under law I should get exactly what I am entitl

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @DarkAs a blind person I find life difficult but sometimes we can change anything to improve it. From going to school, to setting up your own family is hard. Many sited women won't agree marrying a blind guy since they have no informatio

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Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @Assault freak, I've heard as much of the Cnib, and you may well be right about Canida generally, certainly I've noticed the Dutch, the Germans, people from Scandinavian countries have a much better attitude towards disability

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @dark;I know what you mean about blind and vision impaired oriented organizations. I got my rehabilitation training at The Lighthouse for the Blind, turns out the training they gave me was so minimal that it might as well be non-existent. My

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Maybe I take it for granted. But Canadians generally have a much more open attitude... of course you still find people who treat us the way Dark was describing it above, but if it's any indication, it feels like we're much luckier her

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Hi.Well I'm going to look into it when my course finishes. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=06#p06 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabah

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @Afrim and Gene, funny, I could say exactly the same about attitudes among the general population over here. Whatever laws Britain does or does not have, generally unfortunately the "blind = alien" attitude still persists. It's

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @Afrim and Gene, funny, I could say exactly the same about attitudes among the general population over here. Whatever laws Britain does or does not have, generally unfortunately the "blind = alien" attitude still persists. It's

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity You guys appear to be very lucky.In my country the laws for visually impaired people are not really good. The infrastructure is dam bad and you can't move, even half a mile on your own. I also remember that local busses do not require

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity A constitution , or at least our constitution, doesn't help all that much because it says nothing about treating disabled people equally. For those that have them, audio announcements of upcoming stops on busses are there because most p

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Hi.I couldn't agree more. I have DLA and ESA which is great and I'm thankful for having it. But! The laws in the UK are really not good when it comes to disability. Yes you can get things for free but something I've neve

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity I can see that arguement, and I don't disagree with stance on bennifits, (hell if I wished sinse a good amount of my sight issues are due to medical mistakes I could probably sue the nhs if I were so inclined though I have no desire to ki

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @GeneWarnerI wholeheartedly agree with your stance on getting benefits to which you are entitled as a matter of law.Let me ponder the question -- do 'normal' (sighted) people feel shame if they can get a tax exemption, rebate at a s

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Update to my previous post:One thing to consider about KNFB Reader, unlike many cheaper and free OCR apps, with KNFB Reader, your documents are processed right there on your device. Many of the other OCR apps, send the picture of the document

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity I know this is an old topic, it showed up in the results of an unrelated search. Probably because NVDA is mentioned in it. Anyway, I just felt that I needed to put in my two cents worth.I've had vision problems my whole life, for most

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Hi morecofee50.You might want to take a look at NVDA.www.nvaccess.orgIt's a free screen reader which I use every day.I'm just mentioning it cause it might help you with your day to day life. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtop

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity I realize that in the grand skeme of things, I'm merely a grain of sand among many.  So, I'll say my bit, and move on.  I think, ove the years we've made a good deal of progress, and I've been alive for 40 years to see

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity My comments about the crash were more a response to ggf saying things might change next century, sinse I'm really not certain at this point whether we'll come to our senses or not. It's more the recognition that the current

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Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Dark, I maybe wasn't quite clear but I did mean if nothing at all can be done in any form. If convincing one person can be done then I agree we should, but if like you say we're heading for a major crash which can't be averted t

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Well I've seen that alien thing, though bare in mind at least some of the points there were rather American specific, for example Britain has no absolute constitution which is unchangeable the way America does, in Britain if laws need cha

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity I live by this rule. Reality is nothing; your interpretation is everything. The government is eventually made up of the people who creaed it. If you look back at a YouTube video in which I think is a monologue between an alien and an Earthling

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity I disagree on that point Cx2. There is a lot to be said in just having the view out there even if nobody listens to you sinse ultimately if you sit and do nothing then it's your own fault if nothing happens. This is why I went and prot

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Dark, I had no idea you were such an optimist.If there's no practical way to either prevent a problem neither prepare for it you might as well just carry on as if the problem doesn't exist, it's the only way to keep sane in any c

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Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity I'll also note that the eastern world, at least exemplified by China, India and Japan are just as much under the thumb of the same "prophet at all costs" multinational monopoly system as we are and in many cases having a lot wors

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity The Eastern world is indeed different but that doesn't necessarily equate to better, neither does it equate to worse. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=188640#p1

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity I agree with Dark, with post number three. I won't spend time going through every single post. What I think we would need is an alternative economy, where we wouldn't compete all the time, but sadly, I don't see that happening, u

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Well Reever does love people, but not more than lying down, so usually she waits until  someone walks up the stairs to get excited. The only exception to this was when my friends turned up for rp, and she'd start getting excited as soon a

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Yeah, when there's even the slightest hope of someone visiting Kirk's at the very least watching the door and more usually wanders over to it wagging his tail hopefully. He just loves people that much, it's quite sweet apart fro

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Well you might be correct, though to be honest I still doubt it'd make tv cheap enough to warrent the little that I bother watching the thing.Reever doesn't really have an issue with needing background noise, partly because I'm

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Well I've had the discount for a while now, maybe you've been getting idiots on the phone? I'm not sure what's been going on there.I've been tempted at points to drop my license but since I've had Kirk I've

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Are you sure on that Cx2? When I moved into my flat in 2007, I was very much told by them that there were no reductions for having a visual imparement anymore, and certainly my parents don't get one, (my mum is also registered blind). Of c

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Are you sure on that Cx2? when I moved into my flat in 2007, I was very much told by them that there were no reductions for having a visual imparement anymore, and certainly my parents don't get one, (my mum is also registered blind). Of c

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Are you sure on that Cx2? when I moved into my flat in 2007, I was very much told by them that there were no reductions for having a visual imparement anymore, and certainly my parents don't get one, (my mum is also registered blind). Of c

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Are you sure on that Cx2? when I moved into my flat in 2007, I was very much told by them that there were no reductions for having a visual imparement anymore, and certainly my parents don't get one. Of course, when i realized that  t

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Dark, TV licenses are half price if you're registered blind, try getting in touch with TV licensing. Oh and FYI the TV license funds only go to the BBC, in fact TV licensing isn't even a government department it's run by the

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity [[wow]] Enes I never realized the government was so nice in Turkey as regards providing financial assistance or requiring companies to do so.Here in Britain, bus passes are free in some counties but not others sinse bus travel is administered

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity [[wow]] Enes I never realized the government was so nice in Turkey as regards providing financial assistance or requiring companies to do so.Here in Britain, bus passes are free in some counties but not others sinse bus travel is administered

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity [[wow]] Enes I never realized the government was so nice in Turkey as regards providing financial assistance or requiring companies to do so.Here in Britain, bus passes are free in some counties but not others sinse bus travel is administered

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Hmm, the discount on internet and phone packages must be something unique to Turkey, I've never heard of that one before though it does make a certain amount of sense. Personally I'd be happy with our government waiving the VAT on suc

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity hi,I personally think that it is acceptable to demand entitlements that are garanteed by law blindness is considered to be a severe disability due to the affect it has on one's  ability to due thingssure we can do most things that si

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @Cx2, thanks for getting my point that is indeed the distinction I meant and your example of a bus pass is a good one, though interestingly enough I myself rarely use busses sinse I don't want to risk getting on one with no audio announce

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity I think Dark was trying to ask at what point is free stuff justified? In that context the presence of people, VI or otherwise, who try to get free stuff regardless of whether it is genuinely justified is indeed irrelevant since the fact that

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Hello guys,I myself think that a good game, a good program or ap that you would like to have on your pocket requires a lot of work and consiquently a lot of money. Just think about some games who are not for blinds, like: Fifa, Pro evolution

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Yes.And what do we deserve, as you said equality. I mean there are some sighted people who try and get us to accept free stuff, discounts, easier work, etc etc. That's what I mean. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=1

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity severestormsteve1 worte:But it's just that sighted people try and give us more than we deserve, and this makes some of us think we're entitled to more, because we're kind of brain washed to believeso.And what do we deserve?Acco

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity severestormsteve1 worte:But it's just that sighted people try and give us more than we deserve, and this makes some of us think we're entitled to more, because we're kind of brain washed to believeso.And what do we deserve?Acco

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Dark,That's not what I meant. I know good and well blind people should get some concideration, they do have some special needs of course. But it's just that sighted people try and give us more than we deserve, and this makes some o

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity If your physical condition makes it difficult to use software or hardware which by design has been designed with deliberate difference toward people with special needs you absolutely ought to enjoy a human right to some kind of compensation.If

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity If your physical condition makes it difficult to use software or hardware which by design has been designed with deliberate difference toward people with special needs you absolutely ought to enjoy a human right to some kind of compensation.If

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Hi Steve. My questions about the eldily were to illustrate the limits of the discussion rather than actually aaasking an opinion. While I do believe to an extent you are correct about specialist institutions, there is a little more to the issue

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Hi there dark.  Let me answer your questions here. If I ran into a shop, and an elderly person came in and said, "Can I have a discount on this item? I'm old." I would ggive them a harsh "no, why should you? I'm youn

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity just think, you can get a high powered scanner for around that same price. If you don't like the app, then don't buy it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=1881

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity My point steve, is that Tom is correct, some people will always try to get stuff for free, that is a given. The question under discussion is whether  firstly this attitude is (as Briant suggested in his first post), more prevailent in the blind

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity My point steve, is that Tom is correct, some people will always try to get stuff for free, that is a given. The question under discussion is whether  firstly this attitude is (as Briant suggested in his first post), more prevailent in the blind

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity at brad in post 34, I would have to say that behavior is completely not acceptible. That, is what gives the blindness community it's reputation.Does he go to one of those blind schools?  Blind schools seem to be more of a problem than a u

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Hi.It can but it's still very costly for a braille display for an iphone. I tried the braille pen but didn't like it at all. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=1881

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity I appreciate the point about running a company, however equally there is another side to it, sinse I am not always convinced how much prophet is being made by these companies relative to their costs, especially given the number of government

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity While I see where Bryant and others are going I'd like to point out that the entitlement attitude isn't something exclusive to blind people or even people with disabilities. I can safely say that human beings tend to be fairly selfish

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @Steve, I'm afraid I really don't see the fact that sighted people want free stuff as relevant. Most people (especially in our capitalist society), want stuff for free as a given and would prefer to pay less than more. There are many

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Hi.It can but it's still very costly for a braille display for an iphone. I tried the braille pen but didn't like itat all. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=1881

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Dark regarding what you said earlier I was rather alarmed when I found out the UK version of the Sendaro GPS app was branded as the RNIB Navigator app, with a note saying the RNIB receives no money from the proceeds. That strikes me very much

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Hi.I've not seen any people who demand because they have a disability that they should go to the front of the cue but I've herd of it happening. And I've also herd of people demanding free stuff just cause they're blind.For

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity True. And I believe that also requires a wifi connection to use. Perhaps apps with OCR would work with such things as labeling? Or is there speciffic apps for that? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=188093#p188093

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Not wanting to shop somewhere because of high prices is reasonable though. As for Tap Tap See I actually couldn't get it to work consistently and I tried for quite a long time. It seems if you don't have the camera positioned just exa

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @BrianP,I actually have to agree with a lot of that post. I have indeed come across those blind extremists who call it "descrimonating" when something doesn't happen their way, like the library system. That's what apps suc

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity All that is unfortunately true Bryan, I've mentioned before the annoying girls at the aims music school (I'm glad I never met them). What I find worrying is such behaviour is sometimes condoned in quite high levels of organizations a

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Nobody's saying only the"blind community" wants free stuff. I've seen plenty of examples of sighted folks demanding it. But it is a very common demand for a lot of the blind people I've met. The amusing ones are the one

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Hi guys.I want to bring up some of mine points1. Those who say only the "blind community" wants free stuff, might not have been in a lot of sighted communities if so. Because all  People in general prefer free stuff, it be a service o

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Guitarman, it costs approximately 15 (one hundred and fifty thousand dollars) per year for each programmer assigned to a project like JAWS or windows eyes.  It costs less for support staff - probably only between 40 and 80k, but it's

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