Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record well, putting it in words was not that hard for me, and I think both you and I if asked could probably draw or describe shape by shape what that should look like and the representation from both would be pretty much the same. Thanks for clarifying all of my doubts which would seem like stating the obvious. Will keep on trying to solve. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=350963#p350963 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record Yeah, when the top layer is complete, you have the smooth face finished, with the top row of the side pieces all matching the immovable centre pieces. The side patterns at this point are sometimes referred to as T shapes. Though I'm never sure how useful phrases like T shapes and plus signs are to people who may never have had sight.You're right about the guides. Even though I already knew what it was trying to tell me regarding the first two layers because I'd done it before, I still found it horribly confusing. Like you said, they should finish any explaination with a good description of how the cube should look at that point. Though to be fair, it's not a very easy thing to describe using words alone. It'd be so much easier if you could see photos, or even better, someone doing it.And the tactile version is tougher to do anyway. I think it's a bit like trying to play chess blind, in that a sighted person can see the layout of the board, and has to visualise what may happen if a series of moves comes off, but a blind person has to do the same thing while holding an image of the board's configuraition in their head. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=350951#p350951 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record Yeah, when the top layer is complete, you have the smooth face finished, with the top row of the side pieces all matching the immovable centre pieces. The side patterns at this point are sometimes referred to as T shapes. Though I'm never sure how useful phrases like T shapes and plus signs are to people who may never have had sight.You're right about the guides. Even though I already knew what it was trying to tell me regarding the first two layers because I'd done it before, I still found it horribly confusing. Like you said, they should finish any explaination with a good description of how the cube should look at that point. Though to be fair, it's not a very easy thing to describe using words alone. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=350951#p350951 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record sorry for keep on straying of the intended original topic, but I think this is also important, hopefully helpful to some... I think that the problem with most guides out there, including the R N I B one or most things is that they do not tell you in text, precisely or in a bit more detail what you should have when finished solving per layer or so, then its really hard to grasp if you haven't had or done the cube before. So assuming I understood your explanation, a successfully solved top layer should have that lower border which surrounds the (commonly smooth) u face matched up to the center pieces which are the ones that never move, creating small downward vertical, incomplete lines that connect the completed U face with these center pieces. Did I miss something? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=350910#p350910 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record Yeah, that's it. The cross involves matching the side center pieces too, then you do the corners so that they also match to get the complete top layer. When I started, I actually found it harder to solve the smooth face on its own than I did once I started putting the sides in the right order too. I had a Rubik's cube as a kid in the 80s, and knew how to do the first two layers, though I never completed it, even though my dad and cousin could do it. So I already had an idea of what was involved before I started with the tactile cube, and little bits came back to me as I played around with it again after 30 years or so. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=350907#p350907 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record Yeah, that's it. The cross involves matching the side center pieces too, then you do the corners so that they also match to get the complete top layer. When I first started, I actually found it harder to solve the smooth face on its own than I did once I started putting the sides in the right order too. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=350907#p350907 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record Looking up the Fridrich method, I came across this wiki article: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/How_to_So … _Cube/CFOPHaven't read it yet, but have read the beginner method that it suggests you master first. Thought it'd be the same as the one described in the RNIB's instructions, but it's more efficient. I was able to follow it with a bit of head-scratching here and there. Remains to be seen whether or not the Fridrich method is doable too. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=348366#p348366 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record So I had a go at doing five in a row using the cube scrambler, then taking the average time of the middle three, and had an amazing run. First I totally messed up a couple of times and realised I didn't really know the final couple of moves well enough. This was causing hesitancy as well as mess ups, so I properly cemented those in my brain so I could blast through them in an unthinking muscle-memory type way. This helped a lot. Up til then I hadn't got below three minutes and thought I never would, but that little bit of boning up did wonders and I went under three minutes three times in the five attempts. My times from slowest to fastest were: 2:34, 2:42, 2:58, 3:26, and 3:30. Removing the outer two and averaging the middle three gives 3:02. I'm now thinking can I go under two minutes. The algorithms are getting quicker and quicker, but it's feeling around for the next piece that is the biggest time hog. Sometimes a single piece can really play hide and seek with your fingertips. I'm getting better at systematically searching the cube though. These touch cubes really are good fun if you like creating order out of chaos as fast as you can, heheh. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=348340#p348340 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record @9 Yeah, just solving the cube gets less satisfying as time goes on. Introducing a time factor makes it a bit more interesting. But I'd still say it's worth every penny, and if you're the sort of person who gets satisfaction from things being orderly, and you like having something just to fiddle with for a few minutes now and again, it's great. @10 Good question. This topic was just a bit of fun. Like I said in my opening post, you'd have to be honest with yourself and properly jumble the cube. Just moving it two turns, then putting it back would be a waste of time as we'd only be kidding ourselves that we'd solved the cube in such and such a time. There's definitely a point at which the cube is properly jumbled and isn't going to get any more so by randomly twisting some more. That said, my fastest solves have always involved a bit of help from the cube needing fewer turns to solve the middle and bottom layers, so maybe there's a way to check the cube is jumbled to a certain degree, which is I think what you're getting at. Think the official way to do it is to make five attempts, discard the fastest and slowest, then take the average of the three middle times, but whether they jumble a certain way first I have no idea. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=348194#p348194 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record @9 Yeah, just solving the cube gets less satisfying as time goes on. Introducing a time factor makes it a bit more interesting. But I'd still say it's worth every penny, and if you're the sort of person who gets satisfaction from things being orderly, and you like having something just to fiddle with for a few minutes now and again, it's great. @10 Good question. This topic was just a bit of fun. Like I said in my opening post, you'd have to be honest with yourself and properly jumble the cube. Just moving it two turns, then putting it back would be a waste of time as we'd only be kidding ourselves that we'd solved the cube in such and such a time. There's definitely a point at which the cube is properly jumbled and isn't going to get any more so by twisting some more. That said, my fastest solves have always involved a bit of help from the cube needing fewer turns to solve the middle and bottom layers. Think the official way to do it is to make five attempts, discard the fastest and slowest, then take the average of the three middle times. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=348194#p348194 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record Shit, [[wow]]... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=345646#p345646 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record As far as I understand, the blindfolded record includes the time it takes to memorise the cube's layout. So they examine the cube, are blindfolded, then solve it from memory. Unbelievably, the record is 18 seconds. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=345417#p345417 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record Hi.How are sighted people solving a normal rubiks cube blindfolded? How is that possible when they can't feel the colors? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=345406#p345406 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record Once those guys who hold all the other records got involved, the record would be about 10 seconds. How the hell they do normal cubes in 5 seconds is a mystery to me. I just find it strange there isn't already a record. Seems whoever wanted to get in touch with whoever organises these record attempts, could have the world record for a few hours or so. If there genuinely isn't yet a record set for the touch cube, someone could do it, and then for the rest of their lives they could say they once held a Rubik's cube world speed record. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=345326#p345326 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record I think once those guys who hold all the other records got involved, the record would be about 10 seconds. How the hell they do normal cubes in 5 seconds is a mystery to me. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=345326#p345326 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record If you can improve even more, you may be able to compete against other people at competitions. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=345048#p345048 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record They're good fun... especially when you're the speed world record holder like me. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=345027#p345027 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record
Re: Rubik's Touch cube speed record I do want to get one of these. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=345017#p345017 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
