Re: dumb warnings?
Re: dumb warnings? Security is always a balance between safety and functionality, to make things completely secure youd need to shut your system off from the outside after all. Anyone who has ever read the BoFH knows just how terrible users are. That said I do believe in using reasonable precautions such as antivirus software and windows updates, after all its possible for google ads or similar on a perfectly legitimate web site to contain virus code. It has happened before and it will likely happen again, not to mention the fact that windows update also plugs holes to stop programs running without user consent such as with data injection attacks and buffer overruns.All this reminds me of a friend who was asked to help the local job centre set up supernova on their computer, they couldnt figure out why it wasnt working so they asked her help as a supernova user herself and a council employee.Friend: Does the computer have a sound card?Staff, incredulous: O f course not!Friend: Didnt you read the side of the box where it says sound card required? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=195550#p195550 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: dumb warnings? Hi.Want to laugh at people? And wonder how kids got so smart? Oh and read some worning lables too?Click here.http://www.rinkworks.com/said/Choose a category, then go back to the top of the page and press L for list. and read.Enjoy. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=195554#p195554 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: dumb warnings? Lol Cx2, Trying to setup supernova on a computer without a soundcard? I think that definitely falls into the stupid category, heck, the name text to speech! pretty much tells you sound is required! Sort of reminds me of the time I couldnt setup my university e-mail account to run with outlook express sinse they used an inaccessible web mail system, they refused to tell me the server password and said they would e-mail it to me. When I asked how to pickup the e-mail theyre response was use our web mail? when I pointed out that the very reason I was trying to setup outlook express was because I couldnt use their webmail they did actually responded with well youll need our web mail system to set that up! I do have to wonder where they find these people! In the end I just gave up and gave anyone in the university who needed it my own e-mail address instead . URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=195556#p195556 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: dumb warnings? well, things do happen,like the one wich cx2 just mensioned. and yes, manufacturers have there share of responsibility, so they decide, better be stupid looking than be stupified URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=195596#p195596 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: dumb warnings? Think the funniest one Ive ever heard so far though is still, and I quote, Not to be used for the other use. I dont even remember what it was on, but seriously, what is this elusive other use that must remain such a secret you couldnt possibly have spelled it out? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=195621#p195621 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: dumb warnings? To be honest I disagree on the necessity of those warnings Tom, not because people arent that stupid, but because really there shouldnt be such a big deal made of all this suing business, it has gotten way out of hand. My personal favourite moron story was the one of the man in the copper bottomed boat who went boating during a thunder storm. One of his sons who were there at the time suggested the chap should head in towards shore, where upon he replied no its fine then stood up next to the mast, stretched out his arms and said come on god! let me have it and god did! I never heard there was any legal issue attached to the story but it still amuses me for the level of stupidity on display. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=195413#p195413 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: dumb warnings? hi dark,lol, apparently that man asked for it and got it.did he survive?and here is an article containing 30 dumb tech warningshttp://www.itworld.com/article/2826901/ … abels.html URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=195417#p195417 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: dumb warnings? Well you know what the old Prayer says Enes, For what we are about to recieve may the lord make us truly thankful .Apparently the man did survive but with some fairly severe injuriess, and got off lucky at that. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=195418#p195418 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: dumb warnings? Well you know what the old Prayer says Enes, For what we are about to recieve may the lord make us truly thankful .Apparently the man did survive but with some fairly severe injuriess, and got off lucky at that.Btw, very amusing article, I liked Drunk, or pregnant, or both A friend of mine who has just had a baby will find that one particularly funny, especially sinse she gave up alcohol while she was pregnant. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=195418#p195418 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: dumb warnings? Yes but did she watch anything in 3D while carrying? Because apparently thats bad, for some reason. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=195433#p195433 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: dumb warnings? Yes, 3D viewing is very bad, its a scientific fact, it can cause the mother to give birth to dimentionally challenged children! . URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=195440#p195440 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: dumb warnings? Dark, while I agree with you in principle I think it is safe to say that suing isnt something that is going to go away soon. Here in America, for example, suing someone over everything or anything is practically a way of life. There was a time where some of the stupid lawsuits would have been laughed out of court, but any more lawyers and their stupid clients are making a mockery of the justice system because people sue over anything you can think of and then some.The trouble is if companies didnt try to warn their customers of the dangers of say sticking paperclips in their card reader and they got electrocuted for doing something that dumb instead of the court saying thats what you get for being a dumb ass chances are that the company will be taken to court, sued for millions of dollars, and possibly lose the case. Doesnt make sense to me why these ridiculous cases get heard let alone why the plaintiffs actually win there cases in a surprising number of lawsuits but it happens. So while it is well and good to say the suing business has gotten well out of hand I dont see anyone actually doing anything to stop it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=195442#p195442 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: dumb warnings? I think Darks point, and Im sorry if Im putting words in your mouth here Dark, is that in an ideal world these warnings shouldnt be necessary because the lawsuits would simply be ignored. Darks point is that the problem addressed by these warnings is one within the legal system that permits such lawsuits, and the fact that noone has managed to change this state of affairs doesnt invalidate the point. There are many areas where laws fail to be reformed because too many people are invested in the current system. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=195445#p195445 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: dumb warnings? Well Cx2, that was my point, though I do think at least in Britain changes arent impossible sinse British Judges arent exactly the most tolerant of people, (my brother meets them regularly and is eventually aiming to become one and he certainly isnt), and some of the stupider law suits from the states would in Britain likely result in the person bringing them being charged with contempt of court and possibly fined for wasting the courts time.There have also been several reports to the House of Lords over the past few years saying the hole suing culture is going too far, so I dont think some regulatory legislation about the suing insanity is out of the question in the future, particularly with how sick of it people (especially in the public services), are getting of having to constantly cover their backs in case somebody gets sue happy. This might not of course be true of the states, sinse I know for a fact the process of passing or chang ing legislation over there, and indeed the legal system generally is rather different, but I wouldnt be surprised if we see some changes in Britain at some point before things get too extreme. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=195450#p195450 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: dumb warnings? LOL! Your incredulity is a little frightening in itself, enes. Arent you concerned for the poor people who might try anything listed there? Of course its all very amusing, but the instructions are there because we have a responsibility to design safe products, and although we cant possibly prevent every hazard in the design of the product itself, we are also somewhat obligated to try to prevent others from making those same mistakes if we know theres a possibility of it.I think this comes down to the question of what could be reasonably expected. If a person could reasonably be expected to suffer some consequence, then as Dark and CX2 above suggested, I think the ideal situation is one where a lawsuit is clearly impossible. That is sadly still too often not recognised in English courts because there are still established interests preventing us from going forward, though from my understanding of the US legal system its a good deal worse over there. Whereas, if the manufacturer of a product is positioned to advise against some hapless act, however it is conceived or for whatever reason it is undertaken by some poor creature, it should be noted as a safety precaution. This is really no different from warnings on exam papers telling you how to mark them correctly; its purely For the avoidance of doubt.All this incidentally from someone who nearly lost his hand in an unprotected air conditioning system. The people designing that product didnt give a crap about safety, clearly … URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=195461#p195461 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: dumb warnings? There are entire subsections of sites devoted to these.Rinkworks Computer StupiditiesRinkworks Things People Said URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=195463#p195463 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: dumb warnings? Hi.Its amazing all these stupid warnings you get. I believe that if people thought before they act we wouldnt need all of these rediculous warnings.Ive come across these kinds of warnings a lot. I remember some medications I had listed the side effects shaking, insomnia, and possibly death. Or even different appliances the warnings tell you not to put them near water or run them for a long period of time. Youd think that people would just know these things but they dont.@Cx2, lol I remember that guy in the chair with the balloons. I remember reading about that and wanting to do the same thing. Its crazy the things that people think up. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=195468#p195468 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: dumb warnings? Hi all.Agree, there was a program on a dessert which stated do not turn over.The warning was on the bottom of the box though.And I have seen not necessarily warningsbut some stupidity appearing on windows updates and other things of all things.The most recent was a couple months ago.An update was to fix a security issue in a kernel mode driver then got immediate alerts to remove it because according to ms, some users had trouble with installing programs or rebooting.However if you read that warning you would have to be booted into something.There were suggestions on how to uninstall the update if you had issues in safe mmode, all techy though and at any rate, if my system didnt boot the first thing Id do is put in my recovery mode cd.I would be asked are you sure you want to recover the system?I hit yes, and the system would be reformatted.Similar updates by companies have come over in the years.Microsof t seems to cop a lot of the publically noticed ones.fonts not displaying right and a few other things.I had one in early 2000 where on updating an update kept asking me to uninstall when updating and then windowsupdate would error.I answered no thinking there was an error on my part.the system started and the keyboard didnt work.I put in my recovery disk hit yes and a reformat later it was booting up again.I never got the same issue again and apparently there was something up at that time.However after updating a system back in 1998 I got another update which I installed.In its description, it said basically, this update is to address the fact that whilst securing your system we blocked all internet access!Despite the fact that if you were blocked you couldnt update.I am sure others have things.The most common things I see are for stupid people or people that still like to read, click and run spam at tachments and links.In a lot of updates over the last couple years I have got a message, stating you cant be hacked unless you click a link or open an attachment.So why update then?Answer because there are still people that do that sort of thing.I have well had a friend in an organisation that said that every bit of security software, antivirus, os update, etc could potentially stuff the system and that he didnt use any of that stuff because it breaks things.Further more he said we didnt need the best security we just have to use our brains more.While I dont fully agree with this statement, it does seems there are still people that dont use their brains to the fullest, discounting those that have had most of them eaten by zombies or are actually zombies. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=195473#p195473 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: dumb warnings? @Guitarman, the warnings on medical drugs are there for a reason, sinse overdosing or taking in the wrong way in those circumstances could cause major illness or even death, so I dont see those sorts of warnings in the same category as your dealing with something which most people wont have an inherent knolidge of, ie, correct proportions of a given drug, its no different from getting a prescription from your Doctor stating what dose of something you need to take. @Sebby, I agree companies have a responsability, but within reason is the optimum phrase. As you said yourself, I often dont believe these warnings have much to do with what is reasonable so much as they are concerned only with the company not getting sued, which is not the best mentalityy. For example, it always amuses me that the only products that have braille labels on the high street are medical drugs of one sort or another, and cleaning products like Bleach which coul d be dangerous if swallowed. So, if your a blind person, you cant tell what food or drink you have in the house, but you can find all the dangerous stuff, maybe I should go on hunger strike and then sue Hines baked beans for not labelling their tins All I could find in my cupboard were inedible things! . URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=195475#p195475 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: dumb warnings? If you try one of these things, let it be the driving thing.I want to know what ends up being more hazardous, a blind person behind the wheel, or listening to your digital recorder while being behind the wheel.I couldnt resist, heh.But in all seriousness, I dont know why these warnings are included, but theyre on just about everything you buy, not just computer manuals. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=195358#p195358 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: dumb warnings? Hi.Best stupid thing Ive herd of ever. ON a packet of peanuts. May contain nuts... Oh really? I didnt notice... Come on! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=195362#p195362 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: dumb warnings? From the warranty section in my braille display manualThis warranty applies to all cases where the damage is not a result of improper use, mistreatment, negligence or acts of God.Well... I dont think its very likely that God will randomly decide to do anything to the display... but... even if he does, I have no idea how I could prove it.take a look at this site for more dumb warnings and heres one that I came across while reading it just now...Caution: Avoid dropping air conditioners out of windows.Unknown Air ConditionerGame idea anyone? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=195371#p195371 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: dumb warnings? basically those warnings are a safety net to stop people from winning if they sue the companies for having faulty or defective hardware after they actually tried to destroy it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=195381#p195381 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: dumb warnings? From the instructions for the Pac Mate QX400, not exact wording:If the shell of the Pac Mate turns green stop using immediately. Um, how can I tell?From an item on a breakfast show some 10 to 15 years ago about this very subject...Fire guard: Caution may get hot.Electric heater: Caution do not use as a projectile in a catapult.Knife: Keep out of small children, hopefully a translation mistake.Sometimes these are in response to a lawsuit but sometimes I have to wonder if someones just checking to see if anyone reads the warnings.Oh and one april fools day a motherboard manufacturer claimed their products included an RTFM chip which would be activated from that date forward, which detected if you call tech support without reading the manual and if you do will disable the product. The news was posted a few days early and caused an uproar because people thought it was real... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=195382#p195382 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: dumb warnings? Unfortunately keyisful is right on this one, those warnings are basically for legal and insurance reasons, and yes, the idea that a company needs to cover their back by saying Acting like an idiot is your own responsability is pretty idiotic in itself.What worries me, is the may contain nuts on a packet of nuts, sinse the thought of what else a packet of nuts may! contain could be quite worrying. now there must be the basis for a horror story, may containuts, or may contain man eating nut shaped blood drinking demonic evil death beatles cunningly disgusied as nuts! . URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=195391#p195391 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: dumb warnings? At CX2, are you serious?Who would put an electric heater in a catapult? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=195395#p195395 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: dumb warnings? Enes, while I know those warnings seem to be absolutely ridiculous the older I get the more I realize there are actually people that stupid. There is a local station where I live that has a morning show called Knuckleheads in the News which is about people who did something completely idiotic and made the news headlines for it. Its funny but usually at the expense of someones absolute stupidity.Over the years I have heard a number of unbelievable news stories about someone doing something so stupid nobody in their right mind would try it or one would think. Yet, there was someone dumb enough to actually try it.There was once this guy who wanted to trim the hedges in front of his house. So he got the wild idea of using his push mower to trim the hedges. When he picked up the lawn mower to trim his hedges it naturally chopped his fingers off, and then he tried to sue the lawn mower company for failing to state in the operators manual that the mower co uldnt be used to trim hedges. I cant believe anyone would be that dumb, but apparently he was dumb enough to try it and then expected financial compensation for his act of stupidity.In another case a woman tried to drive down a busy street with one of those cardboard sun blocks in her windshield. Predictably she got into an auto accident, and then turned around and tried to sue the company who manufactured the sun block stating there was no warning on the device that it should not be used while driving or operating the vehicle. Again, how dumb can a person be?However, the most funny story is the one about the idiot who tried to use his vacuum cleaner as a masturbator. Apparently the guy was feeling horny, stuck his manhood into the vacuum, turned it on, and cut his pride and joy off in the device. Naturally, he wanted the vacuum cleaner manufacturer to pay for the medical bills plus compensation for ruining his sex life all because the operators manual didn t tell him he could not use the vacuum as a masturbator.The point of all these stories is that while those warnings seem dumb, are ridiculous when one thinks about it, but the companies really need to try and give the end user warnings to cover their own backsides. As ridiculous and far fetched as some of those warnings might seem the fact is there is someone somewhere so out of touch with reality that they will try something and then expect to be able to sue the company for their own stupidity. If someone is dumb enough to try and have sex with a vacuum cleaner some of the warnings in your computer manual actually seem likely even probable in comparison. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=195403#p195403 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: dumb warnings? TurtlePower, according to this breakfast show at the time yes.TWard, puts me in mind of the guy who tied a bunch of helium balloons to a garden chair and went flying with a BB gun and a can of beer. His plan was to use the BB gun to let down the balloons one at a time when he was done but he panicked once he got up there, it took him a while to get up the courage to shoot any of the balloons. When he got back down the FAA fined him for unauthorised use of airspace and forced him to make a public apology. Worst thing is his fiance allegedly spent most of her savings on this misbegotten adventure of his. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=195406#p195406 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: dumb warnings? TurtlePower, according to this breakfast show at the time yes.TWard, puts me in mind of the guy who tied a bunch of helium balloons to a garden chair and went flying with a BB gun and a can of beer. His plan was to use the BB gun to let down the balloons one at a time when he was done but he panicked once he got up there, it took him a while to get up the courage to shoot any of the balloons. When he got back down the FAA fined him for unauthorised use of airspace and forced him to make a public apology. Worst thing is his fiance allegedly spent most of her savings on this misbegotten adventure of his.Scarily I could imagine him trying to sue either the manufacturer of his garden chair for not warning him about tieing balloons to it, the balloons about not using them to fly in restricted airspace, or the BB gun though perhaps less likely. Thankfully it seems he didnt. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=195406#p195406 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: dumb warnings? Hi.[[wow]] the world is full of morons... I just like killing zombies. Nothing wrong with that, right?Reading this stuff is crazy, its so crazy you have to be telling the truth. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=195411#p195411 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
