As i have a number of sytems around the house there are a number of
solutions so sorry for the list that follows .
Music System Raspberry Pi 3+ , Allo Digione Digihat feeding a MiniDSP
DDRC 22D then feeding a Denafrips Pro-8 DAC into Musical Fidelity Pre
then Croft OTL amplifier to Quad ESL 57
Recently purchased a Chord Mojo and am blown away by how good it is.
Currently I'm using it with a Transporter, but I'm building a touch
screen digital only player, using PiCoreplayer so I have something
capable of 24/192 natively.
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Current setup unchanged > 1 year so I like it, but of course it will
change.
Transporter -> ifi tube 2 -> Denon AVR 4306 -> Kef iq9
Cambridge Audio Dacmagic -> audiolab 8000 -> B 685
Touch -> Little Dot Dac_1 -> Little Dot mk3 headphone amp
IQaudIO Pi-DAC+ currently unused, v.nice headphone
Hifiberry DAC+ don't waste you money on anything else.
Logitech Media Server 7.9.2 / QNapClub
Living:'Transporter Second Edition (smashing wiki page!)'
(https://tinyurl.com/q7ff4xr), 'Touch'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Squeezebox_Touch), 'Denon AVR
1912'
arnyk wrote:
Anybody actually obtain one as a regular commercial product?
Looks like they have been vaporware for the better part of a year.
Actually, I have two, actually :p
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1807018070jbc wrote:
I'm currently feeding my Linn Unidisk SC a steady stream of flac files
via toslink, and it works fine. The performance is - to my ears - on
par with playing the original disks in the Unidisk. As an aside, a
second squeezebox feeds an analog signal to an older Rotel/BW
The DAC in my 10 year old Denon AVR2805. If it ain't broke don't fix
it.
'last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/probedb)
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All Squeezelite sources now (hardware players retired), into modified
Cambridge DacMagic via Peachtree X1 async USB-SPDIF, Wyred4Sound
DAC2-DSD, Wyred4Sound DAC2-DSDse, and a couple of HiFiMe U2 DACs.
Receiver stuck at blue LED state after reboot? Please vote for bug
'17462'
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Anybody actually obtain one as a regular commercial product?
Looks like they have been vaporware for the better part of a year.
Squeezelite on Vortexbox ApplianceUSBUptone REGENBenchmark DAC2 D.
Best sound ever from my main system, so far.
Guido F.
MUSIC ROOM:
Marantz TT 15S1, Virtuoso Wood CartridgeART ADCVinyl Studio
CISCO RouterDLink BridgeVortexbox Appliance/SqueezeliteUptone
REGENBenchmark DAC2 DLittle Dot Mk 9
Whatever DAC is in my ~$200 Pio receiver, '13 model. I think it's pretty
good :)
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Benchmark 2 HGC
Arcam Irdac
Audiolab Mdac
Parasound Zdac
Ifi micro Idsd
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I was going into an Ayre QB-9 DSD but decided to simplify things and
loved what the Devialet does for me speakers so now I'm going direct
from my HTPC to my Devialet via USB.
*squeezelite-sotm usb-devialet 200-focal 1028be speakers*
i used to listen to a Touch feeding into an Accuphase DP-65v working as
a DAC. Now the same Touch feeds into a Benchmark DAC2HGC. they both
sound great. in fact the internal DAC of the Touch sound pretty darn
good, but i do get less of a noise floor, and an ounce of
multi-dimension, with the
Running my Transporter into a modded M2Tech Young with linear power
supply.
A step up from the TPs internal Dac, which is great but a little flat
dynamically imo.
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twin monobloc Audio Note P4's to Quad ESL 63's.
Sounds pretty darned good, but I'm an afflicted modder
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Kaizen28 wrote:
I have tried to connect an Audio Engine D1 via TOSLink to my amplifier
and it works well for anything except streaming radio which results in
significant crackles and pops. Again, I do not understand why this is.
I assume what you have is the Audioengine connected to the SB3
Kaizen28 wrote:
Hi All,
I have an SB3 where the output volume levels via the RCA connectors have
definitely decreased over time. I have no idea as to why this is (I have
tried a hardware / DSP reset but with no success) and my concern is that
my beloved SB3 is dying.
I have tried to
Mnyb wrote:
The crackles and pops are they in song transition or just random .
Sometimes some DAC's does not handle sample rate changes in a good way
,for example different radio channels can have 32, 44, 48 kHz
The crackles and pops are random. I'll hear them within 10 seconds of
listening
Hi All,
I have an SB3 where the output volume levels via the RCA connectors have
definitely decreased over time. I have no idea as to why this is (I have
tried a hardware / DSP reset but with no success) and my concern is that
my beloved SB3 is dying.
I have tried to connect an Audio Engine D1
ralphpnj wrote:
for those who still use a either a laptop or desktop computer to control
their SB devices I highly recommend giving MUSO
(http://klarita.net/muso.html) a try
It does look interesting - too bad it only runs on Windows.
Julf wrote:
It does look interesting - too bad it only runs on Windows.
[off thread topic.] Agree. I mostly use a windows laptop to control
my LMS, but LMS itself (and files) is running on a linux machine
(vortexbox). I'm assuming that muso must be on machine that is running
LMS. Correct?
garym wrote:
[off thread topic.] Agree. I mostly use a windows laptop to control
my LMS, but LMS itself (and files) is running on a linux machine
(vortexbox). I'm assuming that muso must be on machine that is running
LMS. Correct?
No, not correct. MUSO does not have to be on the
ralphpnj wrote:
No, not correct. MUSO does not have to be on the machine that is running
LMS since it just imports a copy of the music library database and works
with that. The best thing to do would be to go to the MUSO Support
Thread
Julf wrote:
Won't help me in my 100% defenestrated environment :)
Nicely stated! I wish all Apple users were like you - NOT all up in your
face about bad Windows is and how great Apple is.
I do a have a few quick questions for you:
1) Do you iTunes/LMS or just LMS?
2) Do you use flac files
ralphpnj wrote:
Nicely stated! I wish all Apple users were like you - NOT all up in your
face about bad Windows is and how great Apple is.
That's because I am not an Apple user either (but my wife is, so we are
not an entirely fruitless household).
1) Do you iTunes/LMS or just LMS?
Just
Julf wrote:
Just LMS on Linux.
Flac at home, mp3 in car and DJ setup.
Thanks for the answers. Now I understand.
Julf wrote:
That's because I am not an Apple user either (but my wife is, so we are
not an entirely fruitless household).
That explains your lack of Apple fanboy behavior. Now
ralphpnj wrote:
Now I wonder why linux users never behave as badly as Apple fanboys so
often do?
Because a Linux user knows that their OS isn't perfect - and they also
know the only reason it isn't is that they (the users) themselves
haven't gotten around to fixing it... yet... :)
Wombat wrote:
Hmm... seems like no one is reading my posts. Nonetheless if still
someone is interestet. Now i link to another side i thought i´ll never
do but this one is interesting.
Airport Express has native 16/44.1 digital out:
jvanhambelgium wrote:
The Touch is using a ultra-lineair 5V PSU (Sigma11 design from AMB
Laboratories)
Just curious - have you done any double-blind ABX to see if the PSU
actually makes any audible difference?
Julf's
I use a Quad Link D1 USB DAC...prob sell the MyDAC
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Hmm... seems like no one is reading my posts. Nonetheless if still
someone is interestet. Now i link to another side i thought i´ll never
do but this one is interesting.
Airport Express has native 16/44.1 digital out:
ralphpnj wrote:
I have a WDTV Live streaming device that I use to watch movies and
stream video and movies from Netflix. This device will also play flac
files BUT I still have Touch connected to my home theater because the
Touch/Squeezebox Server+Plug-ins (haven't made the jump to LMS as
jh901 wrote:
Frankly, you have little experience as an audiophile
I guess you are right.
I have a fair bit of experience with various cults and secret societies,
but I don't seem to belong to the one you belong to.
Instead I have merely enjoyed good music reproduction using electronic
and
Julf wrote:
I don't have much experience *as* an audiophile in the way that you
seem to be using the word.
I have merely enjoyed good music reproduction using electronic and
electro-mechanical systems
I've come to dislike the word audiophile and do not use it in
reference to myself.
ralphpnj wrote:
The iPod Classic I use when traveling or taking the train. Great little
device but not audiophile quality without installing RockBox which I
have not done.
Audiophille quality is hardly that important when listening to an iPod
on the train. But there is something far more
ralphpnj wrote:
Very true but the reason for my dismissal of pandasharka is that it
appears that he/she is nothing more than an apple fanboy.
Nice try Ralph. You missed the bit about the Linn DS set up.
Just for a laugh, I wonder whether you can articulate the 'audiophile'
advantage of
pandasharka wrote:
Just for a laugh, I wonder whether you can articulate the 'audiophile'
advantage of standard SB Touch, over the Airport Express into external
DAC please?
Three really, really BIG reasons:
1) In order to stream digital audio to the Airport Express one has to
use iTunes
ralphpnj wrote:
Three really, really BIG reasons:
1) In order to stream digital audio to the Airport Express one has to
use iTunes which means no FLAC support.
2) iTunes is a horrible music library manager
3) No support for 24bit files.
Sorry to disappoint you.
Very sorry to
Is it no so that airport/iTunes resample,everything to 16/48
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Forget iTunes, I've never used it and never will. My external DAC
supports FLAC etc.
Now please, give me your best arguments for why I should not have sold
the SB Touch at a nice profit, replaced it with an airport express to
stream into my external DAC. (Which made my standard SB Touch sound
pandasharka wrote:
Very sorry to disappoint you, no iTunes this end, Spotify only. Now tell
me about the audiophile advantage of SB Touch in that scenario.
I'm all ears, and waiting with baited breath..
pandasharka wrote:
Forget iTunes, I've never used it and never will. My external DAC
The second generation Airport is a nice device. It has a native and
clean 16/44.1 digital output that should be the majority of files most
users own. So it may be a worthwhile digital transport, why not?
The HiRes files you have you can resample yourself to 16/44.1 for daily
use and don´t let
ralphpnj wrote:
Now I understand, or think I understand, so please correct me if I'm
mistaken. It appears that you are only using the Airport Express to
stream content from Spotify, in other words, to stream Internet radio,
which is basically what Spotify is.
Streaming Spotify is not
pandasharka wrote:
OK, so if you accept there is no difference streaming Spotify at 320k or
whatever their premium service streams at in extreme,
can you elaborate on the difference between streaming any other media
please? Eg. Ripped CD's.
In the space of one post, we've come back from
ralphpnj wrote:
I know that for 99% of music it is very difficult to tell the difference
between a 320K mp3 and a flac but that does not mean there aren't
differences. If you are happy with 320k mp3 or whatever is the Apple
equivalent then great. I prefer flac or lossless files. However that
pandasharka wrote:
The Linn Klimax DS set up I have with 4500+ CDs burnt to storage is
irrelevant, controlled with iPad and Kinsky.
Also please forward a sensible argument as to why if you sold your SB
gear and streamed into an external DAC via airport express or similar,
you would lose
ralphpnj wrote:
I know that for 99% of music it is very difficult to tell the difference
between a 320K mp3 and a flac but that does not mean there aren't
differences. If you are happy with 320k mp3 or whatever is the Apple
equivalent then great. I prefer flac or lossless files. However that
ralphpnj wrote:
I already told what you would lose so I'll just go back to my original
reply to you:
I guess when the heat gets a lil hot, best out hey?
Idiot.
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pandasharka wrote:
I guess when the heat gets a lil hot, best out hey?
Idiot.
It's not the heat, it's the density. Do me a favor and try reading what
I write and stop calling me names.
I already told you that if the Airport Express works for you then great.
The fact of the matter is that
ralphpnj wrote:
It's not the heat, it's the density. Do me a favor and try reading what
I write and stop calling me names.
I already told you that if the Airport Express works for you then great.
The fact of the matter is that the Airport Express is NOT equivalent to
the SB Touch in many,
pandasharka wrote:
From someone who flamed me for being an apple fan boy? Lets call it
quits. I dont really have the inclination. Enjoy your set up, and I will
too.
Agreed and I'm sorry about the fanboy remark.
Touch (coax) - Onkyo 875
The Onkyo has some Burr-Brown PCM1796 (24bit/192kHz) DAC's onboard.
I'm very happy with the quality of the sound and it sounds great on my
Klipsch RF7-MKII's !
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someone is interestet. Now i link to another side i thought i´ll never
do but this one is interesting.
Airport Express has native 16/44.1 digital out:
pandasharka wrote:
SB was a great experience, I had some real fun in the early days
sparring with a couple of propellor head posters on here, but ultimately
newer technology won out, and I think Logitech knew the writing was on
the wall. The SB Touch was never going to be the plug and play
jh901 wrote:
No doubt that the SB products, especially the Transporter, were
important advances. A shame that Logitech came along.
It's been my experience that discussing audiophile concerns with
non-audiophiles is a non-starter. It is much too important for most
people to believe that
My household is Apple-free.
If Apple did ever create anything worth my time, then I'd jump onboard
if the price was right. I won't be holding my breath.
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It's been my experience that discussing religion concerns with
non-adherents-ofreligion is a non-starter. It is much too important
for most people to believe that there are no new experiences to be had.
A true shame. I can't understand why non-adherents-of-religion would
bother lurking and
jh901 wrote:
My household is Apple-free.
If Apple did ever create anything worth my time, then I'd jump onboard
if the price was right. I won't be holding my breath.
I don't go that far since I have and use an iPod Classic and an iPod
Touch plus my wife has an iPad. The iPod Classic I use
Julf wrote:
It's been my experience that discussing religion concerns with
non-adherents-ofreligion is a non-starter.
Typical. For example, a wine connoisseur with 15 years of critical
tasting experience merely adheres to a religion when he describes the
flavors of a given wine in a way
jh901 wrote:
Typical. For example, a wine connoisseur with 15 years of critical
tasting experience merely adheres to a religion when he describes the
flavors of a given wine in a way that a layperson can't grasp.
Frankly, you have little experience as an audiophile yet you feel the
need
jh901 wrote:
Typical. For example, a wine connoisseur with 15 years of critical
tasting experience merely adheres to a religion when he describes the
flavors of a given wine in a way that a layperson can't grasp.
Frankly, you have little experience as an audiophile yet you feel the
need
Archimago wrote:
Doesn't this depend on what you mean by audiophile?
An audiophile is a lover of high quality audio reproduction which in
fact is the first line of the Wikipedia entry; nothing more. Our world
views however then dictates the relative merits of the hardware,
software,
I upgraded to a Linn DS set up in my main listening room a while ago,
but kept the SB Touch and a few old bits of Linn amp in my garden
studio. More recently bought a cheap second hand Beresford Bushmaster to
feed out of the Touch and it made a noticeable musical difference. If
you have been
pandasharka wrote:
I upgraded to a Linn DS set up in my main listening room a while ago,
but kept the SB Touch and a few old bits of Linn amp in my garden
studio. More recently bought a cheap second hand Beresford Bushmaster to
feed out of the Touch and it made a noticeable musical
I see others are also using the Dac It. I couldn't be happier with mine.
I have it connected via coax. Very smooth, well defined bass and an
absence of high end harshness that's great.
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He's JohnW on pinkfish - most active on his thread re MDAC:
http://www.pinkfishmedia.net/ audio forum if you want to contact him.
Hi Triode,
Unfortunately I have been unable to PM John on the PinkFish forum, as
his PM Quota is exceeded, so sending further message is prevented. I
simes_pep wrote:
It was a John Westlake design, he was on the DIY Audio forum for a while
talking about the PT products. However I'm not sure if a 24-bit stream
was available when they were designed? It was predominantly a 16/44.1
feed from a CD transport/player, or a 16/48 from DAT, DCC or
Mnyb wrote:
I'm more or less sure that the spdiff standard is such that the formats
is like 16bit + 8 optional bits so some older DAC's can truncate at 20
or 16 bits or maybe it's receiving chip can understand even if the DAC
is not cabaple .
Like the SB3 and another squeezebox it's always
Mnyb wrote:
Some googling turns up the ordinal as 18bit sometimes with 24bit filter
implementation , similar to an old meridian 563 I once owned .
But is not John Westlake himself active on some other forum mostly on
his newly designed audiolab MDAC .
He may have more correct info on this
Hi, Currently feeding a Pink Triangle Ordinal (with 24 bit Filter
module) from a SB3 with CI-Audio PSU.
Infact using both inputs on the PT Ordinal, as I have a second input
card (DIC) so 16/44.1 from a Meridian 200 CD Transport and 16/44.1,
24/44.1 24/48 from the SB3 using a mixture of FLAC,
simes_pep wrote:
Hi, Currently feeding a Pink Triangle Ordinal (with 24 bit Filter
module) from a SB3 with CI-Audio PSU.
Infact using both inputs on the PT Ordinal, as I have a second input
card (DIC) so 16/44.1 from a Meridian 200 CD Transport and 16/44.1,
24/44.1 24/48 from the SB3
Some googling turns up the ordinal as 18bit sometimes with 24bit filter
implementation , similar to an old meridian 563 I once owned .
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I just finished test driving a NAD M51 DAC and it's phenomenal. Very
neutral sounding with no harshness at all. Proper bass with open and
realistic soundstaging. It sends out the signal undisturbed. You feed it
great material and life is very good.
I also ran it in preamp mode using its
Pneumonic wrote:
I just finished test driving a NAD M51 DAC and it's phenomenal. Very
neutral sounding with no harshness at all. Proper bass with open and
realistic soundstaging. It sends out the signal undisturbed. You feed it
great material and life is very good.
I also ran it in
garym wrote:
I'd been looking at this. Looks quite nice and a good price as well as
you note.
Hi, Gary. If someone is after a neutral sounding DAC it's the equal of
the Metric Halo ULN-8, which I used to run, which many believe is state
of the art for neutrality.
Cyrus dacX with psxr
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Behringer DCX2496 Crossover/DAC RCA cables Carver amps hybrid ESL
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Adcom preamp. See sig
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Foxy system
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Internal DAC only here...
1. Squeezebox Touch (Analog RCA out) - Monster Cable (uplink connector)
- Little Dot MK III (tube amp.) - AKG K240 DF (vintage headphone)
2. Squeezebox Touch (Analog RCA out) - Coaxial cable (uplink connector)
- Denon PMA720A (integral amp.) - Van Den Hul Snowtrack
Benchmark DAC1 HDR. Why?
1. One box DAC/pre solution with remote analogue volume control and
balanced out
2. Preamp inputs (used for XTZ Room Analyzer)
3. Many digital inputs (USB laptop, coax from old Cambridge Audio CD
player, optical from SB Touch)
4. Headphone amp
5. Internal jumpers for
If they can't make a DAC you like, then make one yourself.
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SB Touch - silver coax - VTL Straight-Line (two-channel, tubed D/A
converter, UltraAnalog DAC D20400 module).
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coaxsbt
'Mytek Stereo 96'
(http://www.mytekdigital.com/products/stereo96dac.htm) coax sbt
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SBT --
-- DIY DAC (acc. forum) with CS4398, up-sampling to 192 kHZ, one stage
op-amp with 2x OPA-627BP (no resistors, no caps at all in analogue path)
-- coax (InAkustik, Germany)
-- PMA2000AE (Denon) QSC (PA-power amp)
-- Sonics Allegria S1 (Speakers; bi-amped) Subwoofers.
Works
Touch - Blue Jeans Belden coax - Buffalo II :)
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Touch -- Toslink -- Audio-gd NFB 10SE
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ob_kook
Touch -- Audio-gd NFB-10SE DAC -- Portal Paladin monoblocks --
Dynaudio Contour 1.3 MKII
SB2 -- Denon AVR4800 -- Klipsch KG4
SqueezeBox Boom (Bedroom)
SqueezeBox Radio w/Battery (Kitchen / Garage / bathroom)
Squeezeserver running on a virtual
Looking back on the thread, 2 years ago I was using a Cambridge 840C as
a DAC. I switched to a Neko D100 DAC -- which has a more relaxed,
natural sound -- about a year ago, after ordering one for the 30-day
free trial.
I did try the Benchmark HDR briefly, but I found it too lean, and
didn't
Touch Belden based coax into Audiolabs m-dac
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Squeezebox touch
Squeezeplug running on Dockstar
Audiolab MDAC
Arcam A85 amp
Chord rumour speaker cable
Dali Mentor Menuets on Custom Design stands
Room 2
Boom
Bedroom
RADIO
Mildly modded Touch - hardwired blue jeans coax with BNC - BNC modified
Rega DAC
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