Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?

2013-03-28 Thread Quad
F...and of course I responded by calling the product pure BS and of course I was dismissed with some typical audiophile mumbo jumbo... What goes around, comes around. Don't get me wrong, this laminar thing is marketing fuzz at its worst. But I really think you guys sometimes overdo.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?

2013-03-28 Thread Mnyb
Quad wrote: What goes around, comes around. Don't get me wrong, this laminar thing is marketing fuzz at its worst. But I really think you guys sometimes overdo. Yes probably , but think of it as a long lever :) as the majority of the audio hoby have turned into this mess... But that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?

2013-03-28 Thread Julf
Mnyb wrote: You can't really make this up :) Ah, a good one! Computer operating systems are extensive and require many services, which all compete for processing time. These processes are allocated according to what are called priorities. It is known through the world-wide consensus of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] News Flash: PCM is dead, Long Live DSD!!

2013-03-28 Thread callesoroe
Mnyb wrote: Sigh . The oppo itself is good stuff . But a pity (but expected) that stereophile is jumping on the DSD bandwagon . The last thing the audio world need is even more consumer formats especially as we have several that are perfectly fine and transparent to human listeners

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] News Flash: PCM is dead, Long Live DSD!!

2013-03-28 Thread Mnyb
callesoroe wrote: Totally agree with you in this. I have just purchased the new Eric Clapton album Old Socks in 24/96 on HDTRACKS.com. The album was available on release date in HD version FLAC. This is the way to go...More of that please :) exactly is there maybe 1% of the legally

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?

2013-03-28 Thread Mnyb
Julf wrote: Ah, a good one! Computer operating systems are extensive and require many services, which all compete for processing time. These processes are allocated according to what are called priorities. It is known through the world-wide consensus of experienced computer audio tweakers

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?

2013-03-28 Thread ralphpnj
Mnyb wrote: That is actually a gem , this is how they do it laminar and turbulent streams are fluid dynamics (hydrodynamics and aearodynamics) it has nothing to do with information ,you could aswell ask about the taste of bits , I want blueberry zeros and vanilla ones :) But to non

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Magico S1

2013-03-28 Thread jh901
ralphpnj wrote: Wow! You posted something that I almost completely agree with. As I wrote several posts ago (and was promptly ignored) if pro-audio is so great why do most modern recordings sound so bad? And on a related topic, active speakers, just like every other kind of speaker, have

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Magico S1

2013-03-28 Thread mlsstl
jh901 wrote: ...Fortunately, it's also no secret as to how to accumulate well-mastered digital. Stock up on the Audio Fidelity titles (most, anyhow) and, if you so choose, rip them to your hard drive for network play. Also, the hybrid SACDs on the Analogue Productions label are generally

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] News Flash: PCM is dead, Long Live DSD!!

2013-03-28 Thread Julf
callesoroe wrote: Totally agree with you in this. I have just purchased the new Eric Clapton album Old Socks in 24/96 on HDTRACKS.com. The album was available on release date in HD version FLAC. This is the way to go...More of that please :) Have you checked if it really is hi-res?

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] News Flash: PCM is dead, Long Live DSD!!

2013-03-28 Thread ralphpnj
Julf wrote: Have you checked if it really is hi-res? It doesn't matter because hi-res, CD res or low res it doesn't matter because it's not DSD :) ralphpnj's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Magico S1

2013-03-28 Thread jh901
mlsstl wrote: However, particularly with pop rock, if you listen to a recording made in the 60s, apart from the style of music, it also sounds like a recording made during that period. It does not sound like one made in the 70s. Stereo had not even taken hold in the early 60s much

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Magico S1

2013-03-28 Thread darrenyeats
I agree, Elvis and other 50s stuff can sound really good, actually a lot better than modern stuff. A case of less is more ... SOTA sound processing can't replace correct acoustics, mic positioning and skill ... and huge dynamic range doesn't help modern recordings if it's passed through a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Magico S1

2013-03-28 Thread ralphpnj
Taking this thread back to the issue of active speakers versus passive speakers I have a couple of questions for the active speaker proponents. It seems that the area where active speakers most differ from passive speakers is in the use of crossovers. So just how much distortion is introduced by

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Magico S1

2013-03-28 Thread darrenyeats
It's more than just distortion measurements. Some types of crossover are only possible done actively e.g. time delay, all-pass phase correction etc. Also it is about driver transient control which might not be obvious from steady state distortion measurements. And also dynamic range is better too

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Magico S1

2013-03-28 Thread Mnyb
darrenyeats wrote: It's more than just distortion measurements. Some types of crossover are only possible done actively e.g. time delay, all-pass phase correction etc. Also it is about driver transient control which might not be obvious from steady state distortion measurements. And also

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Magico S1

2013-03-28 Thread ralphpnj
Thank you Darren and Mnyb for those excellent responses. It seems that are many things about active versus passive speakers that I need to learn about but you have each my a very good starting point from which to continue my research. And I also thank you both for understanding that I was and am

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Magico S1

2013-03-28 Thread SoftwireEngineer
ralphpnj wrote: Thank you Darren and Mnyb for those excellent responses. .. +1 ..yes very good ..much appreciated SoftwireEngineer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7000 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] News Flash: PCM is dead, Long Live DSD!!

2013-03-28 Thread callesoroe
Julf wrote: Have you checked if it really is hi-res? Sounds great. I have no reason to believe it is not. The bas response is a lot better on my 24/96 files. This one too. And my Tact indicates it is 24/96. callesoroe's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] News Flash: PCM is dead, Long Live DSD!!

2013-03-28 Thread ralphpnj
Julf wrote: Have you checked if it really is hi-res? callesoroe wrote: Sounds great. I have no reason to believe it is not. The bas response is a lot better on my 24/96 files. This one too. And my Tact indicates it is 24/96. I think means for you to get all anal and check the frequency

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Magico S1

2013-03-28 Thread Mnyb
On the topic about 1% distorsion has been quted for passive filters there is the AVi forum for AVi active speakers . Very baised about thier product http://hddaudio.net/viewtopic.php?id=886 The loss of cone damping is one issue another less known one is because driver impedance vary with signal

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Magico S1

2013-03-28 Thread jh901
http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/the-2013-consumer-electronics-show-neil-gader-on-loudspeakers-under-20k/ ^ About mid-way down the page for the S1. These are some fine looking speakers. Very much interested to find how they sound compared to my Focal's. Gotta hope that Magico is only

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] News Flash: PCM is dead, Long Live DSD!!

2013-03-28 Thread Mnyb
ralphpnj wrote: I think means for you to get all anal and check the frequency response curves, spectrum analysis, dynamic range, etc. As far as I'm concerned, if you say it sounds good then it sounds good. Plus remember that it is not DSD so it's not worthwhile to start with :) Yes if it

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Magico S1

2013-03-28 Thread mlsstl
jh901, I think you misunderstood my post. Your reply seems to indicate you thought that I was suggesting one period's recoding fashion is superior to another. That's not the case. I was only saying the decades were different and generally recognizable. There are some excellent, poor and a lot of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] News Flash: PCM is dead, Long Live DSD!!

2013-03-28 Thread ralphpnj
Mnyb wrote: And also an old analog master is not hires no matter how much we wish it where , it's like carry around 1liter of water in a 10liter bucket. Not so fast. An old analog master tape of an old fully analog recording is just as valid a source for high resolution digital as a new high

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Magico S1

2013-03-28 Thread Mnyb
mlsstl wrote: jh901, I think you misunderstood my post. Your reply seems to indicate you thought that I was suggesting one period's recoding fashion is superior to another. That's not the case. I was only saying the decades were different and generally recognizable. There are some excellent,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] News Flash: PCM is dead, Long Live DSD!!

2013-03-28 Thread Mnyb
ralphpnj wrote: Not so fast. An old analog master tape of an old fully analog recording is just as valid a source for high resolution digital as a new high resolution digital recording. The real issue is just how carefully the analog master is converted to high resolution digital. What

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Magico S1

2013-03-28 Thread ralphpnj
mlsstl wrote: I don't need the latest version of the endless remasters in hopes of hearing one of boys shuffle their shoes at 2 minutes and 17 seconds into a track. Actually it's more of a tapping of the shoe and it happens at 2 minutes and 22 seconds. Plus it can only be heard on the long

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] News Flash: PCM is dead, Long Live DSD!!

2013-03-28 Thread ralphpnj
Mnyb wrote: I would argue that analog and digital resolution is equal in practice it is simply not true that analog recordings have infinite resolution and what we need to do is sample them better and better . Sn ratio is Sn ratio either analog or digital ( wath the video recently linked

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Magico S1

2013-03-28 Thread mlsstl
jh901 wrote: But nevertheless, the difference will be shocking. That sentence alone marks a big difference between us. Yes, I prefer clean recordings more than poor ones. While I have been irritated at finding I've purchased a CD suffering too much from the loudness wars syndrome, that was

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Magico S1

2013-03-28 Thread ralphpnj
mlsstl wrote: think of Steve Hoffman as a miracle worker You said it! Don't you just love out of context quotes. ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Magico S1

2013-03-28 Thread darrenyeats
jh901 wrote: I'd recommend the Beatles mono box set. The original '87 CDs are stereo mixes (which are not definitive) and were poorly mastered. I'm not sure why you would listen to The Beatles only for nostalgia though!? We don't pop on Beethoven or Mozart for nostalgia do we? I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MEASUREMENTS: Some Squeezebox numbers to consider...

2013-03-28 Thread SoftwireEngineer
Note, the comparison with Touch - http://www.the-ear.net/review-hardware/nad-m50-m52-streamer-server SoftwireEngineer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7000 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MEASUREMENTS: Some Squeezebox numbers to consider...

2013-03-28 Thread Archimago
SoftwireEngineer wrote: Note, the comparison with Touch - http://www.the-ear.net/review-hardware/nad-m50-m52-streamer-server Thanks for the link... A few choice quotes: You could either work with a Logitech Squeezebox or you had to look for high end solutions like dedicated music servers