Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences between digital sources

2013-03-25 Thread callesoroe
Quad wrote: I've always tried to be an enlightened audiophile. I won't do double blind tests myself because I'm too lazy, but I usually trust those tests and I think they are a good way to find out if something is audible or not. I'm 36 years old and here is what I claim to be able to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences between digital sources

2013-03-25 Thread Julf
callesoroe wrote: hear differences in FLAC vs MP3/320 that removes over 70% of the original music data ? It is audible Do you have any credible evidence showing it is audible? Julf's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences between digital sources

2013-03-25 Thread callesoroe
Julf wrote: Do you have any credible evidence showing it is audible? It is quite logic.. and there is really huge differences in sound Room and life in the music dissapears . and your ears gets tired of listning to it in longer time. Drum cymbals say DING and not Diing when

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences between digital sources

2013-03-25 Thread garym
callesoroe wrote: It is quite logic.. and there is really huge differences in sound Room and life in the music dissapears . and your ears gets tired of listning to it in longer time. Drum cymbals say DING and not Diing when listning to MP3 ... Just an examble.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences between digital sources

2013-03-25 Thread Julf
callesoroe wrote: It is quite logic.. and there is really huge differences in sound Room and life in the music dissapears . and your ears gets tired of listning to it in longer time. Drum cymbals say DING and not Diing when listning to MP3 ... Just an examble.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences between digital sources

2013-03-25 Thread callesoroe
Julf wrote: No. It's not quite logic. In fact it is pretty far from logic. MP3 is a perceptual codec. It throws away data - but only data that the perceptual algorithms deem unlikely to be audible. The rest of what you report is purely subjective observations. Please note I asked for

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences between digital sources

2013-03-25 Thread Archimago
callesoroe wrote: My only evidence is that the data of the original music file has been dramatic reduced, and that is very audible in my setup. And I am NOT a cable freak og anything like that. The differences is just so big, that I can not understand if anyone should have problems telling

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences between digital sources

2013-03-25 Thread callesoroe
Archimago wrote: ? What do you mean well recorded or bad recorded track? Are you talking about the source itself (ie. different remasters?) or bad ripping of the same CD? I understand your assertion/belief in the first paragraph (whether it's empirically true is another issue), but your

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences between digital sources

2013-03-25 Thread Julf
callesoroe wrote: My only evidence is that the data of the original music file has been dramatic reduced, and that is very audible in my setup. Not quite. The data of the original music has been dramatically reduced, yes. You can hear a difference. Yes. But one does not necessarily follow

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences between digital sources

2013-03-25 Thread Archimago
callesoroe wrote: What I meant was that you need to have good source material to reveal the differences. A bad recording compressed and mastered to death in the studio, then I agree it is difficult to hear the difference(if any). But when the source material is great, the you will certanly

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences between digital sources

2013-03-25 Thread callesoroe
Julf wrote: Not quite. The data of the original music has been dramatically reduced, yes. You can hear a difference. Yes. But one does not necessarily follow from the other. What mp3 encoder are you using? I have tried both foobar2000 and Mediamonkey Gold. Same results.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences between digital sources

2013-03-25 Thread garym
callesoroe wrote: I have tried both foobar2000 and Mediamonkey Gold. Same results. These are not encoders. Within mediamonkey or foobar2000 are you encoding mp3 using LAME (I assume). And if so, VBR. CBR, ABR? garym's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences between digital sources

2013-03-25 Thread SoftwireEngineer
Ok, this is a better way of saying than jumping the gun and deciding I need a transport with less jitter (mea culpa :-) ) . Inspired by Archimago, I threw away the TT tweak on my Touch, but later I went back to it, because I felt I was missing the resolution I had earlier. I also knew that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences between digital sources

2013-03-25 Thread callesoroe
garym wrote: These are not encoders. Within mediamonkey or foobar2000 are you encoding mp3 using LAME (I assume). And if so, VBR. CBR, ABR? Although if 320, almost any LAME mp3 file *should* be transparent. Lame and CBR

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences between digital sources

2013-03-25 Thread SuperQ
SoftwireEngineer wrote: Another observation or illusion (?), if I unplug all the power cords, clean the prongs with just a clean paper towel and plug it in, the system sounds very detailed. I check for this with very low volume listening. What could be happening ? Very likely the system is

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?

2013-03-25 Thread SuperQ
ralphpnj wrote: To me the CA site is no different from any the high end audio magazines. The site's founder aka The Computer Audiophile, to his credit, has managed to ingratiate into the elite regions of high end audio and he is now unwilling to do anything which might rock the boat and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?

2013-03-25 Thread ralphpnj
SuperQ wrote: Yup, I had an argument with the guy about a month after CA started posting stuff. It was yet another claim to which USB cable sounds better. I tried to point out that the devices he was using were async and buffered, and what he was claiming was impossible. All I got back

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences between digital sources

2013-03-25 Thread Archimago
SoftwireEngineer wrote: Ok, this is a better way of saying than jumping the gun and deciding I need a transport with less jitter (mea culpa :-) ) . Inspired by Archimago, I threw away the TT tweak on my Touch, but later I went back to it, because I felt I was missing the resolution I had