Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-02 Thread tom claffey
WGC rules and a good guidline for visibility here. Tom --- On Sun, 2/1/11, Tim Shirley wrote: From: Tim Shirley Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings To: "'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'" Received: Sunday, 2 January, 2011, 7:23 PM I have searched the Rules for such a r

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-02 Thread Jim Staniforth
There are a handful of RVs and a Harmon Rocket (highly modified RV-4) or two near home painted like that, with multiple stripes. Too much work! I doubt most of us would notice the difference between paint and sticker performance. There's more of a bump on most spoiler caps. Choose the right f

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-02 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 01:32 PM 3/01/2011, you wrote: It's all personal preference. If you're a competition or high performance nut - then you'll paint them on for better performance. Or if you just want to go flying, and potentially sell off your glider semi-soon, then just slap some stickers on the glider. W

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-02 Thread Adam Woolley
It's all personal preference. If you're a competition or high performance nut - then you'll paint them on for better performance. Or if you just want to go flying, and potentially sell off your glider semi-soon, then just slap some stickers on the glider. WPP -Original Message- Fro

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-02 Thread bcoleman
Thanks all for the replies - though I've read CASR part 45 and guidance note, plus AN84, I can't find the bit about paint versus stickers?! (actually stickers sound great if underwing markings are not required!) Cheers, Ben *

Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 88, Issue 6

2011-01-02 Thread bcoleman
I think there's something in there (part 45) as an exemption for historic/demonstration aircraft as well which may help. Cheers, Ben SWK wrote: PS This isn't me being totally anal about these issues, I do recall dealing with the AD/AN when they first came out and even now the H17 wil

[Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-02 Thread John Trezise
For us operators, I really think it is quite simple ... just do what the GFA requires (ie observe the requirements of AN84) and if there are issues between the GFA and CASA, let them sort them out. AN84 Issue 2 was released on 7th April, 1998 and the pre-amble states ..."The confusing matter o

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-02 Thread stephenk
I was going to comment on AN84 in my previous email but decided against it as it would have muddied the situation. AN84 (like all ANs) is a guideline and advisory only. It came about as GFA (were forced?) to issue an AD requiring full rego markings on all aircraft*. I am

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-02 Thread Matthew Gage
I believe that GFA AN84 is an agreed set of differences / exemptions from the existing part 45. The proposed new part 45 as mentioned by Wombat actually includes all of these and goes further - removing the need for under wing markings and halving the minimum height of the vertical markings. I

[Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-02 Thread John Trezise
I just have not seen any reference yet to GFA AN84 which details the requirements. This is downloadable from the GFA website /Airworthiness John ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details,

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings - new changes proposed by CASA

2011-01-02 Thread Mike Cleaver
G'Day All CASA recently conducted a post-implementation review of Parts 45 and 47, and a Notice of Proposed Rule Making is currently out for comment until 26 February. The stated objective is to cover off the subject of the current general and specific exemptions and rationalise with exemptions

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-02 Thread stephenk
from 45.085 (2) The markings: (a) must be legible; and (b) must have no ornamentation; and (c) must be of a colour that clearly contrasts with their background. Any colour would

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-02 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 07:30 PM 2/01/2011, you wrote: Try CASR part 45. Also I dont know if GFA still has an exemption but this would seem to make comp numbers or letters a non compliance and certainly those gliders who use the last two letters of a registration such as LTY and omit the L are not in compliance.

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-02 Thread Boris Doig
Try http://2009.gfa.org.au/Docs/ops/mosp2.pdf 14.2.3. Positions and dimensions of registration markings Cheers Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 09:30:59 + From: resand...@gmail.com To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings Try CASR part 45. Also I dont know if GF

[Aus-soaring] Stick on rego letters.

2011-01-02 Thread Kevin Rodda
Marine/boating shops sell individual stick on rego letters. Kevin Rodda ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-02 Thread Ron Sanders
Try CASR part 45. Also I dont know if GFA still has an exemption but this would seem to make comp numbers or letters a non compliance and certainly those gliders who use the last two letters of a registration such as LTY and omit the L are not in compliance. Only those with Golf reggos are allowed

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-02 Thread Tim Shirley
I have searched the Rules for such a requirement, but failed to find it. I was worried that I would need to get out a tape measure next weekend. Happy New Year J Cheers Tim tra dire e fare c`รจ mezzo il mare From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-bo