[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: An original settler of Sao Miguel in RR's book

2015-08-31 Thread Kawika322
Hi, I might suggest looking at the various volumes by Gaspar Frutuoso's Saudades da Terra. Some of his info should go further back than the RR book. David On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 7:34:15 PM UTC-7, manita.morgado wrote: > > Hello, > > Here is a question for those of you who have been

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Mateus Birth Record

2015-08-31 Thread 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy
Sean, According to CITCEM, it's Goulart not Goncalves. Gayle > On Aug 31, 2015, at 5:08 PM, Sean Andrade wrote: > > Hi, > > Can anyone read the birth record for Joao on the bottom left: >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Mateus Birth Record

2015-08-31 Thread 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy
Sean, Mother is Agada Francisca de Jesus. Gayle > On Aug 31, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Lee wrote: > > Sean > > The fathers strange us/looks like Glz (Goncalvez? Or it could be Gonzalez - > which I doubt). > > Someone may need to double heck me on the above surname

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bookstores in Sao Miguel

2015-08-31 Thread Cheri Mello
Liveira Gil closed? I believe that is where I found most my books. RR is out of print. Volume 1 was.around $50 or $60 U.S. Dollars. The whole set was around $600. Manita, you may find select volumes of Insulana of interest. Volume IV of Saudades da Terra by Gaspar Frutuoso is about S.Miguel, but

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] VILA DO PORTO: NS Assuncao - José Ricardo and Izabel Maria

2015-08-31 Thread Ângela Loura
One of those things we read and hope for a different second opinion... lol Thanks Cheri 2015-08-31 3:30 GMT+01:00 Cheri Mello : > quinze...15. She's young. > Cheri > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: SANTO ESPIRITO: Joze Ricardo birth record

2015-08-31 Thread Ângela Loura
Ok, that makes sense, since it states that Joze's paternal grandparents are unknown. I have another ancestor from another branch and he to was left at the "Roda" of the Câmara, and later records states him also as "da Camara". Thanks Linda and Cheri! 2015-08-31 5:33 GMT+01:00 Cheri Mello

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: an original settler of Sao Miguel, Azores in RR's book ... access to records prior to LANDING

2015-08-31 Thread Lara Muffley
Manita - For access to some of these resources one often has to go to a library (old skool - i know). Now that you have some tips from John, search for the title in WorldCat to see where it might be held. The Family history Library in Salt Lake for instance holds many books which would be of

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] an original settler of Sao Miguel, Azores in RR's book ... access to records prior to LANDING

2015-08-31 Thread Ângela Loura
>From the National Public Library, you can access to all the digitalized books: http://purl.pt/12151 However, you can access to a much easy-to-read set of PDF's here: https://pt.scribd.com/doc/135829475/Gayo-I-pdf (at the end of the PDF you'll see Similar to Gayo I.pdf

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: an original settler of Sao Miguel, Azores in RR's book ... access to records prior to LANDING

2015-08-31 Thread Cheri Mello
Some are available digitally at the CCA. You might be able to access them through tombo.pt more easily. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores.

[AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy resources

2015-08-31 Thread 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy
Here is a partial bibliography that I use. Most of my research is S. Miguel based although I also research other islands. This list is neither exhaustive nor necessaril follows the format of the MLS. I hope this is helpful to somebody. John Miranda Raposo -- For options, such as changing to

Fw: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy resources

2015-08-31 Thread 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy
Sorry! Here is the bibliography:  Selected Bibliography   Abrantes e de Fontes, Marques de.Pereiras Titulares e Titulares Pereiras, Ediçãoda S. A. A: 1971 Arruda Botelho da Câmara, MorgadoJoão, Instituições Vininculares e NotasGenealógicas. Instituto Cultural de Ponta Delgada, 1995. Arruda,

Re: Fw: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy resources

2015-08-31 Thread Manita M
This is absolutely SPECTACULAR! Thank you very much for sharing. John, could you please private message me. 2015-08-31 12:26 GMT-04:00 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com>: > Sorry! Here is the bibliography: > > > Selected Bibliography > > > > Abrantes e de Fontes,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bookstores in Sao Miguel

2015-08-31 Thread Ângela Loura
What i meant: I saw one of the three volumes of Book IV for sale online for 16€ plus PP. And the set of 3 for 750€. Also found Book V for sale 25€, and Books I and VI for 15€ each. I'm looking for Book III (Sta Maria), but i'm out of luck :( 2015-08-31 17:09 GMT+01:00 Ângela Loura

[AZORES-Genealogy] Sousa Soares from Santo Antonio Alem Capelas

2015-08-31 Thread 'John C' via Azores Genealogy
Hi All, I am wondering if anyone is researching or has any information on the family of Joao Sousa Soares who married Barbara Costa. They lived in Santo Antonio Alem Capelas and had children there roughly in the 1680' s to 1690's. Unfortunately, it seems that the records from those years were

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy resources

2015-08-31 Thread Cheri Mello
That took a long time to type up! Attached is a screenshot of the link from tombo.pt for the whopping 6 books that the CCA has. You will click on "Biblioteca Digital" in the left column which takes you to the CCA. From the CCA site, I pick "Genealogias." Cheri -- For options, such as changing

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bookstores in Sao Miguel

2015-08-31 Thread Cheri Mello
Angela, I've seen the Saudade da Terra series of 5 or 6 books. They call each one a volume. Volume IV is about Sao Miguel. I've never seen 3 volumes of volume IV. I don't know what you meant by that. And before someone does a search and finds out, yes, Volume IV on Sao Miguel was translated into

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sousa Soares from Santo Antonio Alem Capelas

2015-08-31 Thread Ângela Loura
Search in the group the subject "Help reading older record", from march 8 2013 2015-08-31 17:33 GMT+01:00 'John C' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com>: > Hi All, > > I am wondering if anyone is researching or has any information on the > family of Joao Sousa Soares who married

[AZORES-Genealogy] Casamentos help

2015-08-31 Thread Paul
The record in question is on the right page. I am having trouble figuring out the surname of the grooms mother (I am leaning towards de Campos), and the given name of the brides father. If I read the top correctly they were married on 15 Aug 1774 in Mae de Deus. Towards the bottom it states

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bookstores in Sao Miguel

2015-08-31 Thread MaryAnn Santos
I borrow Saudade from the NYU library all the time - Volume IV has three separate books - I, II, and III. I think it's book III that includes a handy index of first names, last names, and place names. I'm pretty much the only person who borrows these books at NYU. MaryAnn On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sousa Soares from Santo Antonio Alem Capelas

2015-08-31 Thread 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy
Here is what Miguel Soares da Silva has in his Reconstituicao de Familias de Santo Antonio: JOÃO DE SOUSA SOARESCasou comBÁRBAR DA COSTA Filho: Manuel de Sousa casou a 9.02.1709, naMatriz de Ponta Delgada, com Bárbara Correia, filha de é Teixeira e de Maria Correia(EC). SEBASTIÃO DE

[AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record

2015-08-31 Thread Ubirajara Jales de Lira
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1630-1701/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1630-1701_item1/P23.html Hello. Does anybody read this marriage record? It's the last one, on the right side. Thanks Ubirajara Jales de Lira -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bookstores in Sao Miguel

2015-08-31 Thread Cheri Mello
Ok that must be what Angela was referring to. I've never seen the index. Guess Edna translated the main volume. Cheri On Aug 31, 2015 11:44 AM, "MaryAnn Santos" wrote: > I borrow Saudade from the NYU library all the time - Volume IV has three > separate books - I, II, and III. I

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record

2015-08-31 Thread Cheri Mello
What information do you need from that record? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group"

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bookstores in Sao Miguel

2015-08-31 Thread Margaret Vicente
You can get the portuguese pdf versions on line via google for all the volumes of Saudade da Terra. I've got them all. Here's the link: https://sites.google.com/site/saudadesterra/ Margaret On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Ok that must be what

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bookstores in Sao Miguel

2015-08-31 Thread MaryAnn Santos
This is fantastic, thank you, Margaret! MaryAnn On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Margaret Vicente wrote: > You can get the portuguese pdf versions on line via google for all the > volumes of Saudade da Terra. I've got them all. Here's the link: > >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bookstores in Sao Miguel

2015-08-31 Thread 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy
Saudades da Terra is divided into 6 Livros (books) and until a few years ago, Book IV (S. Miguel), the largest of the books, was divided into 3 volumes. (So the complete set was 8 volumes long). The most recent edition, slipcased, is 6 volumes long. Edna, of happy memory, translated the first

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2015-08-31 Thread Sean Andrade
Can someone help me with this death record for for Francisco on the left middle: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836_item1/P50.html I am having trouble with the mom's name. It also looks like it states his age, but I can'r

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] an original settler of Sao Miguel, Azores in RR's book ... access to records prior to LANDING

2015-08-31 Thread Maria Lima
Wow- these are questions I've had too. So glad u asked them so eloquently Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 31, 2015, at 7:38 AM, Manita M wrote: > > Thank you kindly for your response. Makes sense that further research would > have already been done. > > I have never

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bookstores in Sao Miguel

2015-08-31 Thread Eliseu Pacheco da Silva
Hi Cheri and others! Gaio and Saudades da Terra are arround the web in PDF. Just google it! eliseu De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de Cheri Mello Enviada: segunda-feira, 31 de agosto de 2015 15:58 Para: azores@googlegroups.com Assunto: Re:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2015-08-31 Thread linda
Hi Sean, Here's a quick transcription of the record: Fran.co 1 filho de Fran.co Dutra de Andrad e de Sua M.er Eugenia 2 Maria, digo Thomasia n.es fregueses desta P.al de S[an].a 3 Trindade lugar do Capello, Faleceo da vida presente em 4 vinte Sete de Desembro de mil oito centos trin 5 ta e

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy resources

2015-08-31 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci
Wow, thanks so much John!! Now to find some of them is the next trick! Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 9:25 AM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy <

[AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Mateus Birth Record

2015-08-31 Thread Sean Andrade
Hi, Can anyone read the birth record for Joao on the bottom left: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1799-1815/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1799-1815_item1/P11.html His parents look like Joao Silveira _ (Goulart?) and (Agueda?) Francisca. Does it say if the

[AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Mateus Birth Record

2015-08-31 Thread Lee
Sean The fathers strange us/looks like Glz (Goncalvez? Or it could be Gonzalez - which I doubt). Someone may need to double heck me on the above surname though. Mother is Agada Francisca they are from Sao Mateus. Lee -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Casamentos help

2015-08-31 Thread JR
Joze da Costa filho de Manoel da Costa e Francisca de Campos ja defuntos com Victoria Furtada filha de Dionizio Furtado e Maria de Araujo, ja defuntos and they are natives and baptised Mae de Deus. JR On Monday, August 31, 2015 at 2:42:40 PM UTC-4, Paul wrote: > > The record in question is on

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bookstores in Sao Miguel

2015-08-31 Thread Margaret Vicente
You're welcome, MaryAnn! On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 4:21 PM, MaryAnn Santos wrote: > This is fantastic, thank you, Margaret! > > MaryAnn > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Margaret Vicente < > margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> You can get the portuguese pdf versions on line

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sousa Soares from Santo Antonio Alem Capelas

2015-08-31 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
This is one of my lines. I am most interested in the maternal lineage of Barbara Correia DNA testing of her daughter descendants are all in the L2a Haplogroup. This Haplogroup is of African origins. I can speculate that she may be of Moorish decent or slave decent but alas the records seem to

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] an original settler of Sao Miguel, Azores in RR's book ... access to records prior to LANDING

2015-08-31 Thread 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy
Some of those mainland connections are documented in Frutuoso (like the Velho Cabrals). In Rodrigo Rodrigues and in Forjaz (Genealogias da Ilha Terceira) whenever the lineage of an early settler can be traced back to the mainland, Rodrigues and Forjaz have not only outlined these connections

[AZORES-Genealogy] Philippe Garnier - Where is Ribeira Seca in Terceira?

2015-08-31 Thread Jessica Lima
Hello Philippe, Thank you so much for all of the information. It fills a missing piece in my tree. I wanted to ask you, you mention a Gaspar Machado that founded a chapel in Ribeira Seca. Is this the same Gaspar you have listed in the genealogy layout? Thanks, Jessica Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2015-08-31 Thread Cheri Mello
"digo" is similar to "whoops, I made a mistake." I think the literal translation is "I meant to say" Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Sandra Perez

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2015-08-31 Thread Sandra Perez
Eugenia Maria digo ThomasiaNot sure what digo means. Perhaps "known as." On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Sean Andrade wrote: > > Can someone help me with this death record for for Francisco on the left > middle: >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bookstores in Sao Miguel

2015-08-31 Thread Ângela Loura
Hi Cherri, The are, indeed 6 Books. The "Livro Quarto" (Book VI) about Sao Miguel is available in 3 Volumes: The example i was talking about: http://olx.pt/anuncio/coleco-saudades-da-terra-IDv7w72.html 2015-08-31 18:22 GMT+01:00 Cheri Mello : > Angela, > > I've seen the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record

2015-08-31 Thread Ubirajara Jales de Lira
I need parents names. But, it would be nice, if somebody would read the whole record. On Monday, August 31, 2015 at 3:42:22 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: > > What information do you need from that record? > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage and Birth records in the Azores after 1920

2015-08-31 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi Cheri and Barbara, the site is called "Portal do Cidadao" https://www.portaldocidadao.pt/web/instituto-dos-registos-e-do-notariado/registo-civil-certidao-de-nascimento On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 12:42 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Serreta is in the council of Angra. As for

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] an original settler of Sao Miguel, Azores in RR's book ... access to records prior to LANDING

2015-08-31 Thread Manita M
Thank you kindly for your response. Makes sense that further research would have already been done. I have never heard of: Nobiliario de Familias de Portugal (Gaio) How does one get their hands on that? Ideally a pdf? On Aug 31, 2015 7:01 AM, "'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy" <

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bookstores in Sao Miguel

2015-08-31 Thread 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy
The Rodrigo Rodrigues book is supposed to be out-of-print but I am told that there are a few copies left at the Instituto Cultural de Ponta Delgada. You can probably find them on line and e-mail/telephone them.They are very heavy volumes and probably cost around $600.00. Origens Geograficas

[AZORES-Genealogy] Bookstores in Sao Miguel

2015-08-31 Thread manita.morgado
2 weeks from today I will be in Ponta Delgada looking for genealogy books! I am interested in purchasing an original copy of RR's book for example. Assuming it's affordable as I'm running out of cash with all the DNA testing I've been doing. What other books are worth purchasing? And

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] an original settler of Sao Miguel, Azores in RR's book ... access to records prior to LANDING

2015-08-31 Thread 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy
I do not know if it available in anything other than hard copy.It is a multi-volume set costing over $1,000.00. There is a copy available at the Casa da saudade library in New Bedford. On Monday, August 31, 2015 8:38 AM, Manita M wrote: Thank you kindly