ou got a case of fancy fingers there :)
> Cheri Mello
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> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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> On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 5:53 PM Elaine Mello > wrote:
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>> I'm so glad you found hi
I'm so glad you found him, JR - I'll have to see if I can find him in the
passports now and track him to New Bedford that way. The address Antonio
and Claudina listed for Francisco in 1902 didn't seem to exist in the 1905
directory, so I'm going to have to see if I can figure out which
>
> hi Cheri,
>
I saw that marriages and deaths were listed in the back of the
directory, so I'll take a closer look. Interesting on the siblings for
Claudina - interesting that there isn't a Francisco - or he really wasn't a
brother, and they just said that when they got to New York.
It's always the computer's fault!
Do you have any record of Claudina Silva's siblings? I know they
immigrated to stay with her brother Francisco, but I haven't found out much
else other than that. I may have to just scanning all of the birth records
and see who else I can find, but it can
JR - Virginia is Maria Lima (Antonio's cousin and wife)'s sister:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-B-1890-1899/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-B-1890-1899_item1/P79.html
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Thank you both - I find it strange that there are two Manuels and two
Marias, unless the older ones died before the second one was born.
Virginia and Francisco are new ones to me as well. Looking at the
emigration documents, it was the older Maria who came over in 1902 and the
second Manuel,
Thank you both - I find it strange that there are two Manuels and two
Marias, unless the older ones died before the second one was born.
Virginia and Francisco are new ones to me as well. Looking at the
emigration documents, it was the older Maria who came over in 1902 and the
second Manoel,
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> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 6:11 PM Elaine Mello > wrote:
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>> I just got a DNA link to a second cousin on Ancestry whose grandfather
>> was a John De Mello Barboza born in 19
I just got a DNA link to a second cousin on Ancestry whose grandfather was
a John De Mello Barboza born in 1900 who immigrated to New Bedford in
1901. I found the naturalization form for this Joao, and in looking in the
tembo.pt records, I think I've found a sibling to my grandfather who was
I just got an email from Reclaim the Records, and they are talking to their
lawyers about this. Apparently, a lot of these records should have been
turned over to NARA a while ago, but they urge everyone to comment on the
https://www.recordsnotrevenue.com/? page in the hopes that they can in
e,
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> On Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 10:22 AM Elaine Mello > wrote:
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>> Thanks for that clarification, Cheri. Eitehr way, it sounds like it
>> would be worth doing for the money. I'll wait and see if it shows up on
>&
s DNA Project
> Cheri Mello
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> On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 8:26 PM Elaine Mello > wrote:
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>> I got two emails from FTDNA - one was for an mtFu
I got two emails from FTDNA - one was for an mtFull upgrade for $99, but
that doesn't show up on their page when I click the link - it does show up
for the $139 you mention, Cheri.
I assume the first email was a mistake, since I can't find that price
anywhere.
Is it worth upgrading, and
hi Rick,
They immigrated at the turn of the century and ended up in New Bedford,
MA. I found my grandfather's declaration on Ancestry, and sent in for
information for both grandparents only to find out that the USCIS had
nothing they could find. It was recommended I try the state
> I tried to find my grandparents records and they couldn't find anything.
> In fact, it was suggested I try the court records here in Boston and I
> reached out to someone and never heard back from them.
>
I'd love for someone to get these scanned. If they can actually find them,
since
thanks for the head's up on this, Cheri.
All done on my end.
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The photo on Digital Commonwealth is from the New Bedford Library, so it
might be worth seeing if they have anything there that they can share with
you.
Elaine
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Well, that's disappointing.
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> *New Bedford is part of the Fall River Diocese which is not being done.*
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The New England Historic Genealogical Society (NEHGS) has been scanning
these documents for a while now, and members of that organization can
access the records through their site
The only thing I'd add to this is that for the photo that I save locally, I
actually put the weblink in the metadata of the properties of the file (on
a Windows PC, right click on the image and go to Properties. Then click the
Details tab and fill in any information, including the link in the
Mario,
It might help to think of this more like a treasure hunt - or a mystery to
investigate. Even on the U.S. side I'm finding digging up information to
be a challenge - my grandfather came over via the passports as Antonio De
Mello Barbosa, but got listed in the first U.S. Census here
Unfortunately, it's not coming up as free, but you need to log in or sign
up to view more than the first minute. I was curious what DNA Painter
was...
Elaine
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I don't suppose we can upload an existing test from FTDNA or Ancestry to
LivingDNA?
Cheri, like your dad, my grandparents on my father's side came from Sao
Miguel (as you know.) On my mother's side, my grandparents were 1st
generation American from Irish parents from the Cork and Kerry
When I started looking for my grandparents records here in Massachusetts, I
found that my grandfather immigrated under one name (De Mello Barbosa) but
got married under de Mello Silva (his mother's maiden name) and eventually
became just Mello. Given the amount of times surnames changed going
Thanks LaRonda and Ken - when I think I have a record with the right name,
I do download it so I can play with the contrast. About to start 1862
trying to find my great grandmother
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Great idea on the plastic, Rosemarie - I'll have to see if I can find one
to try.
Thanks for the info, Bill - from my initial searches, it looked like all I
was finding was mainland Portugal, but you post confirms what I suspected.
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Hi Rosemarie,
Thanks, that's good to know. I've been scanning the CCA files, and
wished there was a contrast control to make those faded records easier to
read. If I could read them better, I'd start keeping a log of who is on
what pages to make an index for people so it would be easier
I was at the Celtic Connections genealogy conference in MA (for the
non-Portuguese side of the family) this past weekend, and one of the
vendors who did research told me that it was possible to search the Azores
church records on Myheritage. Has anyone tried looking there for
information, and
I just received the St John's book - I look forward to matching up names in
the lists to relatives I've been searching for.
Thanks Cheri, for helping out with this! And thanks to Ernest for hanging
onto the books!
Elaine
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Thanks, Cheri! And thanks to Ernest who kept the old materials. Check is
in the mail!
Elaine
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Great information, Rick.
I will mention if you drive to the State Archives that the whole area by
the JFK Library and Archives is under construction - I drove right past it
a few weeks ago and had to turn around and park. I was looking for
information on the Irish side of my family and they
hi E,
Yes, last year when I went down to New Bedford, I found the office at
another location an they gave me directions to the plot for my grandparents
at St. John's.
Chery, I'd definitely love to buy a copy of the book! thanks for looking
into it!
Elaine
On Friday, July 20, 2018 at
E - what's this St. John's book that you mention? Is it still available?
I'm thinking that I might find more relatives other than my grandparents,
aunts and uncle there, and getting a copy of a book might be a good way to
do it.
And Maggie, on Findagrave you can request that someone take a
My grandparents were cousins, but got married here in the US, so there
wouldn't be anything back in the Azores for them (presumably),
Antonio Mello (b1889) was a great grandson through Ana de Espírito Santo
through Antonio De Mello Barboza (b 1819) and my grandmother Maria Lima (b
1890) was a
year. It happens. If all the family members are correct, then it's him. You
>> can search for the arrival in America a couple of weeks after. Although I
>> just start looking in America on the next day, as I don't want to miss
>> them. Cheri
>>
>> On Jun 24, 20
Thanks - I didn't think about being held at Ellis, and will look further
into that.
But I thought I found the passports for the family in 1902 - the link
doesn't seem to be working at the moment, but this is it here:
So, after almost 2 years of trying to get information from the USCIS for my
paternal grandfather, Antonio Mello, I came home to find a CD from the
USCIS - I was so excited!
Then I put it in the computer, and found two PDFs - one which was a cover
letter saying that they couldn't find any
It will remain a Lima mystery!
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Hopefully if people do this the flights will actually take off this year -
there was a lot of bad press about delays to the point where I'm not sure
I'd want to fly them.
Elaine
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Thanks, Rick and Cheri,
I just found Anna Maria's baptismal record and she got a copy in 1861, as
the language is similar to Joao's - it looks like the date and names match
up, as well as the grandparents, so I'm going to take that for a win.
Thanks again!
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Hi everyone,
I'm making myself a bit cross-eyed looking at records this weekend and
think I've found the baptismal record for my great grandfather, Joao
Ignacio de Lima born in November of 1846 in Ribiera Quente to Jose Ignacio
de Lima and Anna Marie Motta. Can someone please confirm that I
My grandparents settled in New Bedford from Ribiera Quente on São Miguel
about a decade before yours came over - my father and his sisters were all
born in New Bedford. While they spoke Portuguese, they never taught us (I
always thought it was so that they could talk without my brothers or I
Yeah, there's no way I'd keep this all straight! LOL Cheri
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> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Elaine Mello <emell...@gmail.com
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Some day, Cheri, I'd love to see your master list and how everyone is
connected to one another. It must be massive!
I have to admit when looking on FTDNA it can get hard to follow where the
relationship is when there end up being connections. I don't know how you
keep it all straight. ;)
Thanks!
On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 10:40:44 PM UTC-4, JR wrote:
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> The main or mother church of a particular freguesia.
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> JR
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> On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 10:34:08 PM UTC-4, Elaine Mello wrote:
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>> For those of you not so well educated, what is Matri
For those of you not so well educated, what is Matrix?
Elaine
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Yes, I got the email!
Elaine
On Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 1:30:12 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
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> Did any existing FTDNA customers get the email that I sent through the
> FTDNA system regarding the DNA Project? It basically reminded people to
> upload their Gedcom, the project was growing,
I do 1 or 2 myself. I do like the idea of writing variations in the notes
area as well, especially since there are multiple variations of spellings
at different times, too.
Elaine
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Looking at this, it actually makes sense for me - to be honest, I don't
remember what it used to look like, but I am 50/50 Portuguese/Irish, and
the mapping comes pretty darn close to that:
The Middle Eastern traces are Turkey with Tunisia for North Africa and
Tanzania for East Central -
Thanks - Mara! The other half is Irish, so this has been interesting to
use this service - I appreciate your posting it here.
Elaine
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The day I went to City Hall to find my grandparents records last summer, I
thought about going across the street to see what the Library had, but I
had spent so long in town hall that I decided to head back home, instead.
Now I feel like I missed a great opportunity. What a shame to hear this
I ordered a family finder kit for my niece on the 9th and it showed up the
22nd here in MA, so they are running a bit behind.
Elaine
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> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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>> On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Elaine Mello <emell...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
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>>> hi Margaret,
>>>
>>>I fou
hi Margaret,
I found on ancestry a NY immigration:
New York Passenger List, 1820-1957
Year: 1907: Arrival, New York, New York; Microfilm
Serial: T715, 1897-1959; Micriofilm roll: roll 0885;
Line 24; Page Number: 85
Looking at the record again, I realize it has a different
So they had two daughters named Maria? Was that common?
If I'm reading this right, she was born on the April 2nd, 1887.
Thank you for finding this other record, it was making my scratch my head!
Thanks to Cheri as well for posting my Maria's record.
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On Friday, December 9, 2016 at 8:03:54 AM UTC-5, Elaine Mello wrote:
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> Hi everyone,
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>I've been going page by page from about 1904 onwards looking for my
> parternal grandmather, Maria Lima. It's been great looking at these
> records for those years from Port
Hi Mara,
Francesca would be Maria's mother, which is why I identified this record
as possibly being them, since the ages match up for both Maria and her
mother. I wasn't aware of a sibling, but it looks like there was at least
one Joao, so I will go back into the birth records to see if I
Hi everyone,
I've been going page by page from about 1904 onwards looking for my
parternal grandmather, Maria Lima. It's been great looking at these
records for those years from Porto Delgada, because whomever was writing
the logs had the clearest handwriting I've seen so far. I think I
Just logged in from the Boston area with no problems at all.
Elaine
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It doesn't show up on line, or searching through university libraries or
Worldcat, so Angela might need to go to a rare book store to see if they
can find it.
Elaine
On Thursday, November 17, 2016 at 8:20:41 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
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> I believe Angela wants to purchase it.
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hi Cheri,
I see the adds now - it's interesting, as I tried the purple paperclip
(as good a name as any) and it had replaced one of my ancestors with the
person I clicked on) so I think we might be doing some beta testing for
FTDNA.
I do think a word doc with step by step screen shots
hi Cheri,
I tried following Method 1 and obviously missed something. I tried
dragging someone over to my tree and it put that person in the place of the
common ancestor. I had to re-upload my tree to fix that. Not sure what
I'm doing wrong, perhaps with the drag? But whatever I tried
Interesting -
11% Metal age invader, 51% farmer, 39% hunter/gatherer, and 0% non-European.
On Saturday, November 12, 2016 at 7:13:49 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
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> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes)
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> I'll be brief as I am at Family Tree DNA's (FTDNA) administrator
>
uesia of Sao Jose in Ponta Delgada
> some scribble on the 20 and 4 of November of 1000 900 and 60. Then it's the
> date they recorded it.
>
> You're on a roll! Yay! Cheri
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> Cheri Mello
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> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeir
signed it, but the godparents couldn't write so they
> didn't sign it"] "Era ut supra" is Latin and means "it happened as stated
> above".
>
> Curate Manoel Francisco d'Amoral
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> On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 6:34:15 PM UTC-7,
Hi all,
I've been digging through the CCA trying to find siblings for my
grandfather (Antonio de Mello Barbosa b. 1889 to Antonio de Mello Barbosa
1858 & Claudina Silva b. 1862.)
I was able to find the marriage record for Antonio & Claudina (1882), and
started searching birth records from
No, but he might be able to access the information since it came with him
from St. John's. ;)
On Friday, August 26, 2016 at 11:26:20 AM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
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> I'm talking about St. John the Baptist, since many of our immigrant
> ancestors to the New Bedford region went to St. John's. I
Rev Oliveira is still listed as the pastor of Our Lady at Mt. Carmel as
well. http://olmcnb.com/
On Friday, August 26, 2016 at 1:38:49 AM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
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> From "St. John The Baptist Church New Bedford, Massachusetts
> Quasquicentennial 1871-1996," page 8
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> (NOTE 1: St. John the
Yes, the Archdiocese is in Fall River. I just sent an inquiry to the
church though, as I had been looking at another church for the
information. So thank you for that and we'll see if they respond. The
Archdiocese requests appointments and had a 6 - 8 week response rate for
inquiries. The
I originally did an inquiry to the church where it looked like the records
were sent when the church closed. They told me I needed to go to the
Archdiocses for that information. I sent an email to the Bristol Country
Archdiocese archivist, but haven't heard back yet.
Thanks, Paul for that
ii.Jose de Melo Barbosa, born Abt. 1863 in
> Ribeira Quente- Sao Paulo; married Francisca de Jesus 31 Oct 1888 in
> Ribeira Quente- Sao Paulo; born in Ribeira Quente- Sao Paulo.
>
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>
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>
> On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 11:51:37 AM UTC-4, Shirley Allegre wro
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> Farol de Marianna Augusta, neta paterna do Jose Ignacia de Lima e de Anna
> Maria da Motta, e materna de Manoel de Mello Barboza e de Maria Julia
> Linhares; Foi Padrinho, Manoel Carvalho, solteiro, maritmo, e madrinha
> Maria da Gloria, solteira...
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> On Tuesday, August 2
ns. I need to enter just a couple of
>> more people and then my program will link them.
>>
>> Yes, you are my cousin. All the Mellos from Ribeira Quente (RQ) are
>> related.
>> Cheri
>>
>> Cheri Mello
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>> Researching:
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> Hi everyone,
>
> I've begun searching for my father's side of the family with little
> to no information, other than what I found by going to the New Bedford, MA
> city hall to look up information about my grandparents. I did find
> infor
at city hall, but I may not have searched far back
enough to find it. .
Thanks for any help you can give!
Elaine
On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 5:44:58 PM UTC-4, Elaine Mello wrote:
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> Hi everyone,
>
> I've begun searching for my father's side of the family
Hi everyone,
I've begun searching for my father's side of the family with little to
no information, other than what I found by going to the New Bedford, MA
city hall to look up information about my grandparents. I did find
information on their death certificates, which helped a little,
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