Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] thank you
Hi John V. No I'm Pat Sylvia. I live in Dartmouth Ma. I do know Enid Silva. Not personally, but I know who she is and I also know her Daughter Heidi and her son-in-law. I can't remember his name, but he use to drive bus with me some years back. 17 degrees here this morning. Feels like 1degree. Pat - Original Message - From: John Vasconcelos gfsjo...@gmail.com To: azores azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 8:39:26 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] thank you Pat Corbera? Welcome back stranger! It's been a few years since we've communicated. Dartmouth, Mass you say. You might know my cousin Enid (Vasconcellos) Silva. Her father was my first cousin. About 65 degrees in South Pasadena, Ca (But boy, are we having a drought to say nothing of the brush fires!) John Vasconcelos On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 6:44 AM, blackice...@comcast.net wrote: Hello, I would like to thank all of you that helped me fill in with what I needed. You have been a great help to me. I'm sure I'll need more help here and there soon. Thanks again and may God Bless you all 17 degrees in Dartmouth Ma. Pat -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores . -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores . -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira das Taínhas posted at CCA
It is a good morning if you want to look at Ribeiras das Tainhas records as they are posted at CCA. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Samta Casa De Misericordia records in Sap Miguel
Thanks Margaret- Ah- It said she was buried there so now that makes sense. Margaret, would you still be able to send me the immigration link for Emilia (Machado) traveling with Domingo's, Maria and Manoel in 1886. I've tried on ancestry and can't figure out how to get it. I've tried so many times. I didn't get the link the first time you sent it and you've helped me so much already, so I thought I'd find it, but so far I haven't. Thank you for all your help. Warm regards, Maria Elena On Jan 25, 2014, at 2:18 PM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that was the hospital of Ponta Delgada but it also had a Chapel and those who died while in hospital were buried there. Margaret Vicente On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com wrote: Are they mixed in with Sao Jose records? The record I have says te person was sepultada in the Santa Casa Misericordia was a hospital? Maria Elena -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lorenzo, Antony
Jane, If you can get a birthdate from the cemetery, then maybe I can locate his baptism record in Flores. He would be recorded there as Antonio Lourenco, and I would guess the de Fraga comes from the mother's family. The parents may be Manuel Lourenco and Maria ( de Conceicao, de Jesus, de Gloria, etc) with de Fraga parents. These name combinations point toward the north of the island. Eric Edgar On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:00 AM, jane Kelly jane.ke...@tafe.nsw.edu.auwrote: Thank you - Anthony married Agnes Eliza McGirty in Sydney NSW in 1874 aged 22 years. The other information I have comes from his naturalisation certificate on 9 August 1888. he died 4 April 1905 in Balmain , Sydney aged 54 years, I have the marriage certificate 16.2.1874 his parents are listed as Manuel Lorenzo ( Sailor) and Mary - rights of roman catholic church. Also have his death certificate but have not been able to find anything about his parents or life before Australia Only references to birth that I have are: - his marriage certificate -16.2.1874 lists him as a sailor aged 23 years - his naturalisation certificate - 9 august 1888 - lists him arriving in Australia in 1861, and advising he is 34 years old, says he is a native of Flores, West Island, Azores - his first son was named Antoni George on his birth certificate ( 3.11.1877 in Balmain Sydney) and the father is named as Antoni George Larence - Mariner , aged 27 from Portugal I do not have a birth date yet - but will shortly visit his grave in Rookwood cemetery and that might help with a date of birth Jane, I've worked with 2 other people who had ancestors from Flores, Azores who immigrated to Australia or New Zealand. I'm familiar with the databases available for Australian passenger and shipping lists. I've checked a number of databases, but none showed a Triton arrival for 1861. That particular year has a gap in the records of ships arriving at New South Wales. The son's name with the de Frayer may give a clue, likely originally being: de Fraga. Who did Anthony Lorenzo marry ? Can you give some more information; his birthdate, marriage information ? With birth information he may be found in the parish baptism records of Flores at the CCA - azores government archives site Eric Edgar On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 9:28 PM, jane Kelly jane@tafe.nsw.edu.auwrote: I am researching my family history and want to identify Antony or Anthony Lorenzo who arrived in Australia on Triton in 1861 at age of 9 years - this information is from his naturalisation papers in Australia and he list his parents as and Manuel and Maria and his birth place as Flores, West Island, Azores , Azores on these papers. He would have been born about 1854. I am hoping someone else may also be related and give me some further information. He married and had children in Australia with his son Francis Maxwell De Frayer Lorenzo being my great great grandfather. regards Jane Kelly. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira das Taínhas posted at CCA
I think that's me, Altino, and Shirley Allegre perusing Ribeira das Tainhas! They uploaded it all too! Well, Tainhas is pretty small! Cheri On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *It is a good morning if you want to look at Ribeiras das Tainhas records as they are posted at CCA.* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Identification of child's name baptized in Rosto de Cao
Hello, I have never heard of that name before, but when I look back at the baptism record name, now I can see Guiomar, whereas before I could not form a word from what was written. Learning new names and places everyday. I logged on from work, but I wanted to say a quick thank you for the help. On Monday, January 27, 2014 8:55:16 AM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: Aaron P, Guiomar Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Identification of child's name baptized in Rosto de Cao
Aaron, If you don’t already have the Basic Portuguese Paleography booklook, you need to download it from the Azores GenWeb site. In it, it has a list of Surnames and also a list of Given names. I’ve found it invaluable in figuring out names when I’m stumped! Rosemarie From: Aaron Pereira Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 9:48 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Identification of child's name baptized in Rosto de Cao Hello, I have never heard of that name before, but when I look back at the baptism record name, now I can see Guiomar, whereas before I could not form a word from what was written. Learning new names and places everyday. I logged on from work, but I wanted to say a quick thank you for the help. On Monday, January 27, 2014 8:55:16 AM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: Aaron P, Guiomar Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira das Taínhas posted at CCA
Oh, that’s why you are still in your PJ’s, glued to the PC and not answering phones or emails! LOL Rosemarie From: Cheri Mello Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 9:08 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira das Taínhas posted at CCA I think that's me, Altino, and Shirley Allegre perusing Ribeira das Tainhas! They uploaded it all too! Well, Tainhas is pretty small! Cheri On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: It is a good morning if you want to look at Ribeiras das Tainhas records as they are posted at CCA. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira das Taínhas posted at CCA
Nah, that noise you hear from down here? That's me, banging my head against the wall after calling Salt Lake AGAIN to try to get the computer lab classroom confirmation. Guess what! She was just getting read to work on it now! Amazing, huh? And I got to call the DMV too, in regards to getting my mom an Identification Card. That's been going on since last June. UGH! Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira das Taínhas posted at CCA
Good Luck! From: Cheri Mello Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 9:32 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira das Taínhas posted at CCA Nah, that noise you hear from down here? That's me, banging my head against the wall after calling Salt Lake AGAIN to try to get the computer lab classroom confirmation. Guess what! She was just getting read to work on it now! Amazing, huh? And I got to call the DMV too, in regards to getting my mom an Identification Card. That's been going on since last June. UGH! Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Identification of child's name baptized in Rosto de Cao
Rosemarie, I agree it is a huge help. My copy which was published from the LDS is dog eared and taped up I think I got it in 1992. Next to my copy of Guill I would be lost without it. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of rcapodc Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 11:19 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Identification of child's name baptized in Rosto de Cao Aaron, If you don’t already have the Basic Portuguese Paleography booklook, you need to download it from the Azores GenWeb site. In it, it has a list of Surnames and also a list of Given names. I’ve found it invaluable in figuring out names when I’m stumped! Rosemarie From: Aaron Pereira mailto:pereirah...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 9:48 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Identification of child's name baptized in Rosto de Cao Hello, I have never heard of that name before, but when I look back at the baptism record name, now I can see Guiomar, whereas before I could not form a word from what was written. Learning new names and places everyday. I logged on from work, but I wanted to say a quick thank you for the help. On Monday, January 27, 2014 8:55:16 AM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: Aaron P, Guiomar Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira das Taínhas posted at CCA
Salt Lake City – That’s easy! DMV – you need lots of luck! Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of rcapodc Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 11:48 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira das Taínhas posted at CCA Good Luck! From: Cheri Mello mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 9:32 AM To: Azores Genealogy mailto:azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira das Taínhas posted at CCA Nah, that noise you hear from down here? That's me, banging my head against the wall after calling Salt Lake AGAIN to try to get the computer lab classroom confirmation. Guess what! She was just getting read to work on it now! Amazing, huh? And I got to call the DMV too, in regards to getting my mom an Identification Card. That's been going on since last June. UGH! Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Identification of child's name baptized in Rosto de Cao
I know Rick, I have it in my binder that I bring with me to SLC! It also goes with me weekly to the FHC just-in-case! It really helps when you get into a new village and aren’t familier with the names. I know I found my 8xgreatgrandparents marriage and the Dad’s name was Ilario, first I couldn’t figure out the name (had to look at the word I knew, Igresia) and then had to look in the Paleography to see that it was Hilario in modern day spelling! A real must if you are going to doing your own researching! Rosemarie From: Richard Francis Pimentel Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 9:50 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Identification of child's name baptized in Rosto de Cao Rosemarie, I agree it is a huge help. My copy which was published from the LDS is dog eared and taped up I think I got it in 1992. Next to my copy of Guill I would be lost without it. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of rcapodc Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 11:19 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Identification of child's name baptized in Rosto de Cao Aaron, If you don’t already have the Basic Portuguese Paleography booklook, you need to download it from the Azores GenWeb site. In it, it has a list of Surnames and also a list of Given names. I’ve found it invaluable in figuring out names when I’m stumped! Rosemarie From: Aaron Pereira Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 9:48 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Identification of child's name baptized in Rosto de Cao Hello, I have never heard of that name before, but when I look back at the baptism record name, now I can see Guiomar, whereas before I could not form a word from what was written. Learning new names and places everyday. I logged on from work, but I wanted to say a quick thank you for the help. On Monday, January 27, 2014 8:55:16 AM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: Aaron P, Guiomar Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for immigration info for Ana Cândida De Jesus Souza
Thanks Todd On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *Hi Todd,* *Just some of my general impressions. I would say she died in the Azores. Have you checked the records of Santa Casa Misericordia which is part of the Sao Jose Records? The name Ana de Jesus Sousa is a common name so unless this person can trace her Ana back to Ponta Delgade I would not get too excited about it. Your Ana's daughter Maria de Jesus Agusta Teves did not immigrate until she was 50 years old leads me to believe her mother was most likely deceased by that time (1900) or did not want to move in her old age (if she was still alive she would be 90 years old).* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *brownat68 *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2014 2:42 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for immigration info for Ana Cândida De Jesus Souza Hello I am looking for possible immigration info for: Ana Cândida De Jesus Souza. I have her birth and marriage record from the Azores but there is no death record. I am thinking she immigrated to the United States. Ana Cândida De Jesus Souza Birth 1811 28 Oct São José, Ponta Delgada Baptism 1811 1 Nov São José, Ponta Delgada, São Miguel Island Marriage to António do Rego 1827 7 Oct Age: 15 São José, Ponta Delgada Marriage to Jacinto de Teves 1838 30 Dec Age: 27 São José, Ponta Delgada, São Miguel Island Parents Luis de Teves 1778 - 1839 Clara de Jesus 1780 - 1856 First husband: António do Rego Child: Maria de Jesús Augusta Teves 1850 - 1931 Passport 1903 19 Oct Age: 50 Ponta Delgada, São Miguel, Açores, PT Arrival 1903 31 Oct Age: 50 Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts, USA SS Cambroman A women has contacted me saying she has a match to Ana de Jesus Souza in her tree that matches mine but she says they immigrated from Portugal to West Virginia. All of the following children of Ana Cândida immigrated to Massachusetts. Thanks Todd -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/KjOzlo9aY2w/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hawaiian Marriages
On Monday, December 16, 2013 9:36:12 AM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: Interesting Eric E. I few years ago I was in Hawaii and I went on a tour of a sugar plantation there. The tour guide did say that the first wave of laborers were Chinese bachelors. And China is on a continent. Being a bunch of bachelors who weren't used to an island environment created a bit of a dilemma. I don't remember the tour guide's exact words anymore, but being bachelors they partied too much after hours, rabble roused, went stir-crazy due to being on islands, etc. So the plantation owners thought that bringing over entire families who were used to living on islands would be much more calming. So they initially recruited from the Azores and Madeira, which was successful, then from the Philippines. Correct. The plantation owners realized that a lot of these single men would (usually) fulfill their contract and immediately return home with what they've earned. This was after they began recruiting from Japan. So they realized that recruiting people by families would allow the laborers not to leave and continue to work. So that's what they did with Portugal and found that those who lived on islands were well suited to remain in the Hawaiian islands. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Legitimate vs Natural
In the CCA baptism records, I see that some are worded as legitimate and others are worded as natural, and the latter seem to omit the father. What is the difference? why is the father omitted in the naturals? Thanks, Dave -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Legitimate vs Natural
David J. L., A legitimate child was born in wedlock. A natural child was born out of wedlock. Many times the mother would not name the father. Once in a while she would. And having the mom baptize the child and not name the father is much more common in the Azores. Probably Madeira too, but I don't work much with those records. I remember George Pacheco telling me it was much more common in Cape Verde that both parents are stated when then are unwed. Just a different philosophy or cultural difference between the island groups. Now that records are online, I'll see if I can find my cousin's doozy. It is a baby, natural, born to the mom, wife of so-and-so and to dad, single, the adulterer! I double checked the dictionary to be sure, and technically, the mom was the adulterer (as I thought). Dad should not have been fooling around with a married woman, but I don't know of a word for a single man that does that. Well, modern day slang has words for it, (he's a player comes to mind) but that's not helpful in genealogical records. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Legitimate vs Natural
A natural child is one where the parents were not married to each other bur neither parent was married to somebody else. There was no adultery involved, only two people coming together without benefit of clergy. In other words, they were free to marry each other if they so desired. An illigitimat child is one where the parents were not married to each other, nor could they be, since one or both were already married to somebody else. That is my understanding. On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 3:41 PM, David J Lima dave.j.l...@gmail.com wrote: In the CCA baptism records, I see that some are worded as legitimate and others are worded as natural, and the latter seem to omit the father. What is the difference? why is the father omitted in the naturals? Thanks, Dave -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Legitimate vs Natural
Somewhere I remember reading a record Which went like this (Names made up.) Manoel filho de Jose de Arruda and Maria de Jesus mulher de Manoel de Sousa. That left no question what the situation was. I also remember reading a record that only listed the father's name and fathers parents nothing about the mother or her parents. Just when you think you have seen them all you find something different. As others have said filho legitimate is if the couple are married and filho natural is if they were not married. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Raposo Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 3:38 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Legitimate vs Natural A natural child is one where the parents were not married to each other bur neither parent was married to somebody else. There was no adultery involved, only two people coming together without benefit of clergy. In other words, they were free to marry each other if they so desired. An illigitimat child is one where the parents were not married to each other, nor could they be, since one or both were already married to somebody else. That is my understanding. On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 3:41 PM, David J Lima dave.j.l...@gmail.com wrote: In the CCA baptism records, I see that some are worded as legitimate and others are worded as natural, and the latter seem to omit the father. What is the difference? why is the father omitted in the naturals? Thanks, Dave -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Porto Formoso Index
Caro, Busco mais informações sobre os pais de Maria da graça,batizada no Porto Formoso e casada nos Ginetes a 15.11.1736, c. Mateus Raposo. Estou na dúvida se a mãe desta Maria era Maria Carreiro ou Carneiro, creio que só pesquisando os batismos de casal Maria Carreiro (Carneira?) e Manuel Correia será possível tirar a dúvida Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com Em Segunda-feira, 27 de Janeiro de 2014 10:42, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva eliseuman...@gmail.com escreveu: Hi Márcio! Podes dar mais pormenores? Tenho vários Manuel Correia, mas não casados com Maria Carreiro… Can you add some more detail? I have some Manuel Correia although they are not married to any Maria Carreiro… Eliseu Pacheco da Silva Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira das Taínhas posted at CCA
Can't wait to get home tomorrow and start going through the records! Hoping to fill in some gaps and figure out how I am related to some of you through family finder! - Cheryl On Jan 28, 2014 1:03 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *Salt Lake City - That's easy!* *DMV - you need lots of luck!* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *rcapodc *Sent:* Tuesday, January 28, 2014 11:48 AM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira das Taínhas posted at CCA Good Luck! *From:* Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com *Sent:* Tuesday, January 28, 2014 9:32 AM *To:* Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira das Taínhas posted at CCA Nah, that noise you hear from down here? That's me, banging my head against the wall after calling Salt Lake AGAIN to try to get the computer lab classroom confirmation. Guess what! She was just getting read to work on it now! Amazing, huh? And I got to call the DMV too, in regards to getting my mom an Identification Card. That's been going on since last June. UGH! Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] thank you
John and Pat, I also know Enid! Her husband Frank is my cousin. Greetings from Dartmouth, Ma as well! - Cheryl Lawrence-Wilson On Jan 28, 2014 5:27 AM, blackice...@comcast.net wrote: Hi John V. No I'm Pat Sylvia. I live in Dartmouth Ma. I do know Enid Silva. Not personally, but I know who she is and I also know her Daughter Heidi and her son-in-law. I can't remember his name, but he use to drive bus with me some years back. 17 degrees here this morning. Feels like 1degree. Pat -- *From: *John Vasconcelos gfsjo...@gmail.com *To: *azores azores@googlegroups.com *Sent: *Monday, January 27, 2014 8:39:26 PM *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] thank you Pat Corbera? Welcome back stranger! It's been a few years since we've communicated. Dartmouth, Mass you say. You might know my cousin Enid (Vasconcellos) Silva. Her father was my first cousin. About 65 degrees in South Pasadena, Ca (But boy, are we having a drought to say nothing of the brush fires!) John Vasconcelos On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 6:44 AM, blackice...@comcast.net wrote: Hello, I would like to thank all of you that helped me fill in with what I needed. You have been a great help to me. I'm sure I'll need more help here and there soon. Thanks again and may God Bless you all 17 degrees in Dartmouth Ma. Pat -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Legitimate vs Natural
John R, Yes, there are 3 ways to list the baptism and I just made it 2 ways. Legitimate: Parents are married Natural: Parents are NOT married Illegitimate: One parent married to someone else, as you stated. That is, if the priest follows the rules (which they do, most of the time). Now to find that record of illegitimate and post it! -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira das Taínhas posted at CCA
Oh yes, you have Tainhas too! Yippee! On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Cheryl Lawrence cheryl...@gmail.comwrote: Can't wait to get home tomorrow and start going through the records! Hoping to fill in some gaps and figure out how I am related to some of you through family finder! - Cheryl On Jan 28, 2014 1:03 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *Salt Lake City - That's easy!* *DMV - you need lots of luck!* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *rcapodc *Sent:* Tuesday, January 28, 2014 11:48 AM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira das Taínhas posted at CCA Good Luck! *From:* Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com *Sent:* Tuesday, January 28, 2014 9:32 AM *To:* Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira das Taínhas posted at CCA Nah, that noise you hear from down here? That's me, banging my head against the wall after calling Salt Lake AGAIN to try to get the computer lab classroom confirmation. Guess what! She was just getting read to work on it now! Amazing, huh? And I got to call the DMV too, in regards to getting my mom an Identification Card. That's been going on since last June. UGH! Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Is Lusaweb down?
Repost for Freddy Garcia, fg.streetbob at gmail.com Hi there, is the Lusaweb site down? i can't access my tree, and does anyone know if i can somehow be the server for my own tree, it runs off of GeneWeb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Legitimate vs Natural
You will also occasionally seepai incerto of uncertain father , pai incognito, of unknown father. . I have seen at least three records that stated one of those, yet stated the paternal grandparents. You could only analyze that to means they didn't know which brother. Eric Edgar On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 1:38 PM, John Raposo marra...@yahoo.com wrote: A natural child is one where the parents were not married to each other bur neither parent was married to somebody else. There was no adultery involved, only two people coming together without benefit of clergy. In other words, they were free to marry each other if they so desired. An illigitimat child is one where the parents were not married to each other, nor could they be, since one or both were already married to somebody else. That is my understanding. On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 3:41 PM, David J Lima dave.j.l...@gmail.com wrote: In the CCA baptism records, I see that some are worded as legitimate and others are worded as natural, and the latter seem to omit the father. What is the difference? why is the father omitted in the naturals? Thanks, Dave -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] genealogy program
I was searching for genealogy programs as I bought Family Tree Maker but don't care much for and thought about legacy and saw Master genealogist as being a great program. Anyone have any thoughts? I am starting my genealogy search again and hope to be able to put everything into some program before I loose everything. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is Lusaweb down?
Freddy G, I just typed in www.lusaweb.com and got it to come up. I didn't click on any links or look anywhere in the site. I'm on Firefox and accessed it at 7:10 pm PST. Ask Joao C. Ventura about being a server for you own tree. He has his own tree up on his own site. He reads daily and I'm sure he'll answer you. Cheri On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 7:10:30 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: Repost for Freddy Garcia, fg.streetbob at gmail.com Hi there, is the Lusaweb site down? i can't access my tree, and does anyone know if i can somehow be the server for my own tree, it runs off of GeneWeb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] genealogy program
GGervais, You'll get people telling you that the best program is the one they are using. That's not going to help you. If you want certain things in a program and can tell us, that may steer you towards one program or the other. The 4 most popular in the PC market are: Family Tree Maker (FTM), Legacy, RootsMagic, and The Master Genealogist. You already know about FTM. Legacy has their Standard Edition (free) and their Deluxe (pay). So download Legacy and play around with it: www.legacyfamilytree.com The Deluxe has about 100 extra bells and whistles. RootsMagic also has a free editions. They call it their Essentials. Download that and play around with it too: www.rootsmagic.com/essentials I don't know how many extra bells and whistles their paid version has. The Master Genealogist (TMG) allows you to explore their full program for 30 days free (and then it locks you out). www.whollygenes.com Download that and play around with it (but make sure you have close to a month to peruse it. Trying to figure that program out 2 days before it expires is like doing a 5000 piece jigsaw puzzle in 1 hour). I go over all 4 programs in a lecture in Salt Lake. Your local genealogy society may have speakers. Request that they find a speaker that can lecture on genealogy software. General overview of the 3 you haven't tried: RootsMagic probably has the smallest learning curve. However, I've read that some people find that they outgrow that program rather easily. However, there's a RM User Group at one of my local genealogy societies, and there are a couple of engineers in there. So it's whatever makes you happy. Legacy has a pleasing user interface and a smaller learning curve. It can be a fairly powerful program, too. It's Source Writer is absolutely fantastic. No other program has a source feature like that. I'd have to look up the cons for Legacy. TMG is the most powerful program out there. They have a bit of a learning curve, but they have tried to do things to make it easier (they have a beginner's mode vs. an advanced mode). Their filtering feature is awesome (you have to practice learning how to use it, though). And it's just about completely customizable too. So you don't like the user interface out of the box, you can change it. When I bought a genealogy program in the mid-90s (I think this was back in the Windows 3.1 days), I had 2 criteria. 1) It had to have a character field long enough to take a city name the length of Ribeira das Tainhas or Vila Franca do Campo. 2) It had to take diacritics. Those accented letters. I wanted the names to be written properly. I wanted José de Mello, not Jose de Mello. Only 1 program on the market could do that at that time. Now, it's a moot point. They can all do that. So if you have any specific concerns for a genealogy program, ask away. Or try all 3 and then ask away. But make fake family and marry yourself to yourself, mess up on dates and make someone born after they died, make someone have a baby out of wedlock, etc. See how each program handles or display these things. Also, depending on where you live, see if there is User Group in your area (all the web sites above have a User Groups section where you can check to see if there is one in your area). We get people dropping in to our group wanting to see what the program is like before they purchase it. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] genealogy program
I used Family Tree Maker for a number of years and for the most part I liked it. I started finding that there were things I could not do with it in searching and printing so after much consideration I got The Master Genealogist. The first thing is that it is not upgraded every year to a new version which you have to spend another $40 to get the latest version. I bought TMG about 4 years ago about $80 and since then FTM has changed times. So while the initial cost is higher in the long run it is cheaper. With FTM I never used the on line tree or signed up for Ancestry which I do not need. The program is difficult to learn and takes time but the more I use it the better I like it. Cheri has been using it much longer then me so perhaps she will chime in. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ggervais1...@centurylink.net Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 5:24 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] genealogy program I was searching for genealogy programs as I bought Family Tree Maker but don't care much for and thought about legacy and saw Master genealogist as being a great program. Anyone have any thoughts? I am starting my genealogy search again and hope to be able to put everything into some program before I loose everything. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Porto Formoso Index
Check Porto Formoso the marriage of a Manuel Correia on the 15 Feb 1705, in Porto Formoso see who he marries in Porto Formoso On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Marcio Borba marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.comwrote: Caro, Busco mais informações sobre os pais de Maria da graça,batizada no Porto Formoso e casada nos Ginetes a 15.11.1736, c. Mateus Raposo. Estou na dúvida se a mãe desta Maria era Maria Carreiro ou Carneiro, creio que só pesquisando os batismos de casal Maria Carreiro (Carneira?) e Manuel Correia será possível tirar a dúvida Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com Em Segunda-feira, 27 de Janeiro de 2014 10:42, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva eliseuman...@gmail.com escreveu: Hi Márcio! Podes dar mais pormenores? Tenho vários Manuel Correia, mas não casados com Maria Carreiro... Can you add some more detail? I have some Manuel Correia although they are not married to any Maria Carreiro... *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva* Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- www.georgepacheco.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Vicente Ferreira parish, S. Miguel island
Márcio Early Marriage of people of São Vicente Ferreira are in Fenais da Luz On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 4:10 AM, Marcio Borba marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.comwrote: Ups... you're right lol Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com Em Segunda-feira, 20 de Janeiro de 2014 18:40, João Ventura j...@venturas.org escreveu: Olá, Márcio According to the info I've got on http://tombo.pt/f/pdl19, this parish was branched off São Pedro in 1838. João C. Ventura http://tombo.pt On Monday, 20 January 2014 03:53:17 UTC+1, Azoreanno wrote: Does anyone know if the Parish of Sao Vicente Ferreira in S. Miguel was part of another parish at some point?? Seems to be part of Ponta Delgada District but I dont see it up on CCA. Are they still working on Ponta Delgada?? Since they been adding Vila Franca parishes I thought Ponta Delgada was done. Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot. comhttp://azorean-roots.blogspot.com/ -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- www.georgepacheco.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] genealogy program
Geez, Rick, thanks for blowing my cover! LOL TMG has the Silver Edition for $34 (download only) or $40 (CD Rom and electronic Users Guide). The Gold Edition is $60 (download only) or $70 (CD-ROM electronic Users Guide). There is a chart that explains the difference: http://goo.gl/IAjTsk The current version is 8.0. To go from 7.0 to 8.0, I paid $30. And when they come up with version 9.0, it will be something along those lines. And it will take them 2 or 3 years to come out with 9.0 I started with TMG 2.5 in the mid-90s. Here it is, almost 20 years later and TMG is up to version 8.0. That's 6 version changes in 20 years, which averages out to you shelling out more money every 3.3 years. I like the filtering. If I'm trying to figure out my Ponta Garca people, so I can run the filter for everyone born in Ponta Garca. Or married in Ponta Garca. Or, or, or. OR, it can be and, and, and. This does take some time to learn. I also like customizing my Pick List. This is the index of people. Mine is set up to show the names, date of birth, date of death, father's name, mother's name, and spouse's name. So, if I'm looking at my 25 Manuel Silvas, I can really see which one I want to work on. There are other fields I can put in too (or take out). I pretty much like it how it comes out to the box. The main screen shows my subject person and all their details/events that happened in their life. So if it was displaying my immigrant ancestor, I would see the birth, immigration, censuses, WW1 Draft, dispensation (I had to make a tag or event for that), marriage(s), children, occupation, death, burial. All of that, right there, in my face. Not hidden behind an icon. I like that. To the right of that screen, I have 3 boxes: His children, his siblings, and his associates. Some people have their Flags open. I toggle that one off and on. I also have a couple of other layouts. I have one for the projector at my genealogy society. That's no big deal, really. I also have one called Project Explorer where I have my Details window open and my Pick List open. This is for me to clean my database. Well, split it. Should have split my dad's Portuguese lines from his American lines years ago before merging it with my mom's. My mom has no Portuguese ancestry and is not related to him that way. Yeah, DNA proved that they are 6th cousins, but it's on my dad's one an only German line way back in the 1740s. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Miguel people in Sao Jorge!
Hi List, While searching for relatives in Norte Grande, Sao Jorge, I can across two different men from Sao Miguel and their wives having children: 1892 Image #9: Constancia born to Joao Silveira Brazil and his wife Constancia dos Anjos. Joao is listed as being a native of Sao Jose de Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel and is the son of Joaquim Silveira Brazil Anna de Jesus.. His wife, Constancia dos Anjos is from Norte Grande. 1892 Image #9: Adelaide born to Francisco Jose Moreira? and Maria do Rosario. Francisco is a native of Villa Franca do Campo, Sao Miguel and is the son of Maria Euphrazia, single. Maria do Rosario is from Norte Grande. Just thought I would make a note of the two births to men from Sao Miguel just in case you have no clue where they went to marry! Rosemarie -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira das Taínhas posted at CCA
California DMV I DO NOT miss that institution. The only thing slower, in my opinion is the Madeira Archives. Paul G. On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 1:03:52 PM UTC-5, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: *Salt Lake City – That’s easy!* *DMV – you need lots of luck!* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *rcapodc *Sent:* Tuesday, January 28, 2014 11:48 AM *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira das Taínhas posted at CCA Good Luck! *From:* Cheri Mello javascript: *Sent:* Tuesday, January 28, 2014 9:32 AM *To:* Azores Genealogy javascript: *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira das Taínhas posted at CCA Nah, that noise you hear from down here? That's me, banging my head against the wall after calling Salt Lake AGAIN to try to get the computer lab classroom confirmation. Guess what! She was just getting read to work on it now! Amazing, huh? And I got to call the DMV too, in regards to getting my mom an Identification Card. That's been going on since last June. UGH! Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Legitimate vs Natural
To add a little spice to this discussion . . . On the registration of my great-grandparents' marriage, natural is used in the sense of native of or born in. For example, my great-grandfather is described as natural, baptisado, e moradôra da rua de Igreja desta freguesia, which I understand as born, baptized, and living in Rua de Igreja of this parish. He is further described as the filho legitimo of his parents who also are naturais of the same parish, as is my great-grandmother. Her parents, in contrast, are from two different villages, Flamengos and Almoxarife, though both clearly lived in Flamengos at the time of the marriage. The father was described as natural dos Flamengos and the mother as natural do Almoxarife. Seems the translation of natural can shift depending on context. Tomás Leal -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
