Re: [backstage] HDCP RIP

On 14 September 2010 17:12, Ant Miller wrote: > For all it's flaws I think there was a decent model at the heart of it. It > did describe a model of media use that made sense, that described the > reasonable expectations of use of the ordinary user, and the ... oh, no > wait, I'm thinking of som

Re: [backstage] HDCP RIP

For all it's flaws I think there was a decent model at the heart of it. It did describe a model of media use that made sense, that described the reasonable expectations of use of the ordinary user, and the ... oh, no wait, I'm thinking of something else. Don't mind me. a On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at

Re: [backstage] HDCP RIP

Yeah, but in the meantime HWAAAH HWAAH HWAAH!!! *HYSTERICAL LAUGHTER* Alex - Original message - > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 15:31, Brian Butterworth > wrote: > > Seems like that very silly almost-content-protection system HDCP is no > > more... > > http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/14/

[backstage] R&D Technologist (Machine Inference)

Hi. The Archives Research section in BBC R&D is currently recruiting a new technologist specialising in Machine Inference Techniques, which may be of interest to some people here. The role is part of our Multimedia Classification project which looks to extract semantic information from AV co

Re: [backstage] HDCP RIP

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 15:31, Brian Butterworth wrote: > Seems like that very silly almost-content-protection system HDCP is no > more... > http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/14/hdcp-master-key-supposedly-released-unlocks-hdtv-copy-protect/ Fear not! I'm sure HDCP+ will be along soon to save us fro

[backstage] HDCP RIP

Seems like that very silly almost-content-protection system HDCP is no more... http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/14/hdcp-master-key-supposedly-released-unlocks-hdtv-copy-protect/ Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: @briantist web: ukfree.tv

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 13:51, Mo McRoberts wrote: > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 13:42, Scot McSweeney-Roberts > wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 13:08, Mo McRoberts wrote: > Well, "widespread support from the industry": > > http://www.projectcanvas.info/index.cfm/news/?mode=alias&alias=INDUSTRY-GE

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 13:50, Stephen Jolly wrote: > > On 13 Sep 2010, at 19:38, Scot McSweeney-Roberts wrote: > Why would a manufacturer >> make a Canvas box instead of something that they can sell in most of >> the world (or even all of the world with the right components)? > > Why would a manu

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 13:42, Scot McSweeney-Roberts wrote: > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 13:08, Mo McRoberts wrote: > >> Given the specs haven't been finished yet, it's the preserve of >> precisely nobody _right now_. >> > > True, but I still would have expected at least one of the big > manufactur

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

On 13 Sep 2010, at 19:38, Scot McSweeney-Roberts wrote: Why would a manufacturer > make a Canvas box instead of something that they can sell in most of > the world (or even all of the world with the right components)? Why would a manufacturer make a Freesat box instead of something that they can

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 13:08, Mo McRoberts wrote: > Given the specs haven't been finished yet, it's the preserve of > precisely nobody _right now_. > True, but I still would have expected at least one of the big manufacturers to be on board by now. Failing that, even someone like Tesco saying t

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:34, Scot McSweeney-Roberts wrote: > I think that until we start seeing manufacturers piping up saying that > they're going to start supporting Canvas in devices I can pop down to > Tesco and buy it's too early to say that Canvas will dominate the > market. If it remains

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:21, David Tomlinson wrote: > On 13/09/2010 23:11, Scot McSweeney-Roberts wrote: > > The distributors already use GeoIP or billing addresses to attempt to > restrict access on the internet to services (including the BBC), and while > iplayer, ITV player, and SEE SAW TV m

RE: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

> I think you might be surprised Andrew how well DVB kit works > across Europe from the larger manufacturers. The LCD screens > we have in the office are an EU wide model that asks you for > the country and language first time you switch them on, and > because they are an EU wide design give us

RE: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

I agree with you entirely, Paul. Btw, did folks here see my recent posts to the "gets even better" and scaling blogs? http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2010/09/bbc_iplayer_gets_even_better.html - mine are near the bottom. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2010/07/scaling_the_bbc_ipla

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

On 13/09/2010 23:11, Scot McSweeney-Roberts wrote: On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 21:22, David Tomlinson wrote: The Google TV box (Logitech Revue) is an addition to your set top box, so it does not integrate with Free To Air TV and may be unable to access UK catch-up content. But it's also getting

RE: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

> From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk > [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Andrew Bowden > Sent: 14 September 2010 09:42 > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > Subject: RE: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium > > It should work. But not everything will work. The EPG > p

RE: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

On Tue, 14 Sep 2010, Andrew Bowden wrote: It should work. But not everything will work. The EPG probably won't, nor the Now and Next. You're unlikely to get "traditional teletext". And if you're German, you won't get the menus in German. As a German would you buy a UK set top box? As a Brit

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 09:41, Andrew Bowden wrote: > From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk >> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 09:22, Andrew Bowden >> wrote: >> > The systems in a UK TV reciever are different to those of a French >> > one, of a German one, of a USA one >> Are you honestly saying that a D

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 09:43, Mo McRoberts wrote: > As I said, it'll work in a basic generic fashion, but there are many > many aspects which vary between countries, including the EPG and Red > Button. Which doesn't help the consumer at all. If I buy an ATSC TV in the New York and take it to C

RE: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 09:41, Andrew Bowden > wrote: > > > It should work.  But not everything will work.  The EPG probably > > won't, nor the Now and Next.  You're unlikely to get > "traditional teletext". > > And if you're German, you won't get the m

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 09:41, Andrew Bowden wrote: > It should work.  But not everything will work.  The EPG probably won't, > nor the Now and Next.  You're unlikely to get "traditional teletext". > And if you're German, you won't get the menus in German. > > As a German would you buy a UK set t

RE: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 09:22, Andrew Bowden > wrote: > > The systems in a UK TV reciever are different to those of a French > > one, of a German one, of a USA one > Are you honestly saying that a DVB-T receiver bought today in > Germany won't work in Fr

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 09:35, Scot McSweeney-Roberts wrote: > Are you honestly saying that a DVB-T receiver bought today in Germany > won't work in France or the UK? Yes, the US won't use DVB because it > wasn't invented there and there are some slight differences in > transmission details betwe

Re: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 09:22, Andrew Bowden wrote: > The systems in a UK TV reciever are different to those of a French one, > of a German one, of a USA one Are you honestly saying that a DVB-T receiver bought today in Germany won't work in France or the UK? Yes, the US won't use DVB because it

RE: [backstage] Canvas - Open Source Consortium

> From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk > To be honest, I'm unconvinced by Project Canvas. It's > difficult to see how a UK only system is going to compete in > this day and age. What does it do that a Google TV box can't > do? Why would a manufacturer make a Canvas box instead of > something

RE: [backstage] iPlayer: (Not Available)

> iPlayer: (Not Available) > can anyone (from the BBC?) explain why** the all new beta > iPlayer TV > channels are stuffed with programs that are (Not Available)? I don't work on web iPlayer but non-available programmes have been included for ages in the channel view, and when we did the Frees

Re: [backstage] iPlayer: (Not Available)

Lol that was proberly a change I did :) They're always been unavailable, before they were just greyed out I think, now the new design asked for the "not available" text to beside them as well On 13/09/2010 19:01, "Jonathan Chetwynd" wrote: > iPlayer: (Not Available) > > can anyone (from the B