It's only on the EPG anyway, even Windows Media Centre will bypass it, as it
uses the DigiGuide one. Or record the whole audio-video stream and use an
edit package. Or pause/record the old fashioned way.
On 14 June 2010 18:30, Phil Lewis backst...@linuxcentre.net wrote:
So is this just going
David,
As we have not actually seen the real Ofcom response yet, I don't know the
answers to your questions. But asking the legal position was my one and
only response to the consultation, so it will be interesting to hear it.
If I had the resources I would launch a judicial review, as this is
On 16 Jun 2010, at 07:11, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote:
It's only on the EPG anyway, even Windows Media Centre will bypass it, as it
uses the DigiGuide one. Or record the whole audio-video stream and use an
edit package. Or pause/record the old fashioned way.
Deviation
On 16 June 2010 07:54, Paul Webster p...@dabdig.com wrote:
On 16 Jun 2010, at 07:11, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote:
It's only on the EPG anyway, even Windows Media Centre will bypass it, as
it uses the DigiGuide one. Or record the whole audio-video stream and use
an edit
The published document is here:
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/content_mngt/statement/statement.pdf
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/content_mngt/statement/The
legal nonsense in section 2 clearly shows how unclear the legal position is.
On 16 June 2010 06:38, David Tomlinson
Brian Butterworth wrote:
It's only on the EPG anyway, even Windows Media Centre will bypass it,
as it uses the DigiGuide one. Or record the whole audio-video stream
and use an edit package. Or pause/record the old fashioned way.
To expand my argument (as you have seen my previous post).
All I can really do with you Mo is disagree.
Of course the public has a right to make an informed judgement. And all
I can say is that on the blog we have linked to and exposed all sides of
the argument and all the facts (including linking to your Guardian piece
and blog posts - and I suspect
Brian Butterworth wrote:
The published document is here:
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/content_mngt/statement/statement.pdf
Section 2.18
Ofcom is mindful that it does not have a power to include conditions in
the Multiplex B licence relating to content management per se. Ofcom
On 16/06/10 07:11, Brian Butterworth wrote:
It's only on the EPG anyway, even Windows Media Centre will bypass it,
as it uses the DigiGuide one. Or record the whole audio-video stream
and use an edit package. Or pause/record the old fashioned way.
And how long will the Radio Times XML
Does anyone have details on how the process for getting the necessary
details to officially obtain the tables/information to decode the encoded
EPG data?
I have seen somewhere that the stipulation was that this should be
royalty free, but that doesn't exclude administration costs, and
obviously
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 09:57, Stuart Clark stuart.cl...@jahingo.com wrote:
[I know such information doesn't help for open source projects, but it
would be interesting to know the level of the monetary/contractual bar to
people wanting to do things officially, and what effect doing so has on
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 09:57, Stuart Clark stuart.cl...@jahingo.com
wrote:
[I know such information doesn't help for open source projects, but it
would be interesting to know the level of the monetary/contractual bar
to
people wanting to do things officially, and what effect doing so has on
Andrew Bowden andrew.bow...@bbc.co.uk writes:
It's so hard for me currently to get SD content off my PVR
and on to
my iPod that I've never done it.
This is easy enough to automate however you like if you're
using a software PVR such as MythTV -- it's the only way I
listen to radio
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:29, Scot McSweeney-Roberts
bbc_backst...@mcsweeney-roberts.co.uk wrote:
... and then everyone who uses an open source
project could individually get their own tables.
only for those people who *actively* use open source. doesn't help at
all with open source stacks
Brian Butterworth wrote:
If I had the resources I would launch a judicial review, as this is
an appalling situation for Auntie.
I too don't have the resources for a judicial review, perhaps the BBC
should test the legal position it's self (judicial review), or the Open
Rights Group may
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:29, Scot McSweeney-Roberts
bbc_backst...@mcsweeney-roberts.co.uk wrote:
... and then everyone who uses an open source
project could individually get their own tables.
only for those people who *actively* use open source. doesn't help at
all with open source stacks
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:42, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote:
only for those people who *actively* use open source. doesn't help at
all with open source stacks embedded in consumer-facing products.
I doubt it would matter much with embedded systems. I can think of three cases -
1) The
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:12, Scot McSweeney-Roberts
bbc_backst...@mcsweeney-roberts.co.uk wrote:
2) The company release their OS components, but the 'secret sauce' is
a closed source app - again, they just include the include the tables
in their product like a closed source system.
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Scot McSweeney-Roberts
bbc_backst...@mcsweeney-roberts.co.uk wrote:
If they did it right then it would be a help (of sorts) to Open Source
projects and everybody would be happy. All that's needed is a website
where there's a form that includes an all import I
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:30, Adam Bradley a...@doublegeek.com wrote:
But the BBC would require as part of the download agreement that you had
appropriate content management on the device, wouldn't they?
I would be very surprised if that wasn't part of the T C's, but then
it's not much
On 16 Jun 2010, at 08:15, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv
wrote:
On 16 June 2010 07:54, Paul Webster p...@dabdig.com wrote:
On 16 Jun 2010, at 07:11, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv
wrote:
It's only on the EPG anyway, even Windows Media Centre will bypass
it, as it
Now, if the bbc would consider rolling out a library like this under the
LGPL
One of these for the epg, but release the source under a bsd-like licence to
distro suppliers so they can compile to tgt architectures and release through
Partner-type repos...
Use that as a proof of concept
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