Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-20 Thread Steve Jolly
Christopher Woods wrote: Personally I'd rather have naff analogue with continuous audio where I can gist the few words I miss, rather than have a lossy (moreso than analogue, arguably) digital signal with squelchy audio and dropouts every so often. I put up with it on my PC's freeview receiver,

RE: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-20 Thread Adam Hatia
was the case!   -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Woods Sent: 20 May 2008 02:20 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels You'd think... But then my first flat in London barely managed

RE: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-20 Thread Gareth Davis
The only option then was really to use the NTL analogue feed they put down the coax. Friendly engineer gave us some F type ends and cable and we could at least get 1 to 4. And Sky one audio on the FM. The old NYNEX FM hook up - that takes me back. It seemed amazing at the time, to get

RE: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-19 Thread Andrew Bowden
Surely in London I should be getting more than BBC One (sometimes), BBC Two (sometimes), Sky Three and Dave. I find it funny that I can get better broadcast television from a internet startup of untested legality than I do from actual broadcasting. You'd think... But then my first flat

RE: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-19 Thread Christopher Woods
You'd think... But then my first flat in London barely managed to get analogue... I actually got a digital box in the first place because it offered a better picture! A clear picture that broke up once every 90 seconds was preferable to watching fuzz and snow. Interesting you should

Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-17 Thread Brian Butterworth
Perhaps someone should tell them about BDA and the WinTV-Nova-T500 cards? Much better to source direct from digital than encode from a STB, surely? 2008/5/17 Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 08:02:24PM +0100, Richard Compston wrote: I don't know if Zattoo are using

RE: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-15 Thread Christopher Woods
Good point Gareth 'News 24' is streamed from a SDI source. We moved from analogue to digital capture cards about four/five years ago the difference in quality was immediately noticable - bitrate frame size for Flash has been upped of course, so looks even better (the current encoders are a

Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-15 Thread Matthew Cashmore
What kit did the Beeb use, and what do they use now? (fascinated by the choices in tech) Also (off-topic slightly) does anybody know what kit the radio studios use for the automatic level ducking when a DJ's speaking over the intro / tail of a track? I've seen what looks like a

RE: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-15 Thread Gareth Davis
What kit did the Beeb use, and what do they use now? (fascinated by the choices in tech) No idea about the rest of the BBC, but we do the TV Encoding with Osprey 540 cards in hp DL360G5 servers at Bush running Windows. Windows media audio encoding is also done here at Bush house using Osprey 230

Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-15 Thread Martin Deutsch
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Gareth Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As others have already said BHX is the extension to London Broadcasting House, apologies for the lapse into BBC TLAs. No idea what the site code is for the Mailbox, if any does know then feel free to email me it - because

Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-15 Thread Simon Cross
Also (off-topic slightly) does anybody know what kit the radio studios use for the automatic level ducking when a DJ's speaking over the intro / tail of a track? I've seen what looks like a sidechaining compressor in the background of some shots on programmes like Timelapse or suchlike (where a

RE: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-15 Thread Christopher Woods
Also (off-topic slightly) does anybody know what kit the radio studios use for the automatic level ducking when a DJ's speaking over the intro / tail of a track? I've seen what looks like a sidechaining compressor in the background of some shots on programmes like Timelapse or suchlike (where

RE: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-14 Thread Christopher Woods
Given that N24 has been pulled from Livestation, I can only imagine that the BBC's lawyers have done something here. How long does Zattoo get? Apparently it's nothing quite as sinister - N24 was streamed as part of the technical trial, which has now come to an end, and they're looking to

RE: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-14 Thread Gareth Davis
PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 May 2008 14:35 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-14 Thread Brian Butterworth
://www.bbcworldservice.com/ + 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Richard Compston *Sent:* 13 May 2008 19:05 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

RE: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-14 Thread Christopher Woods
News have just done a technical refresh of their studios and AFAIK they have not put any HD kit in. I've no idea if any will go in before we all move into new studios in the new BHX in 2012. By BHX you mean Birmingham, right? (just doublechecking) And is everything moving for News (studios

RE: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-14 Thread Andrew Bowden
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Woods News have just done a technical refresh of their studios and AFAIK they have not put any HD kit in. I've no idea if any will go in before we all move into new studios in

Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-14 Thread Brian Butterworth
2008/5/14 Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED]: News have just done a technical refresh of their studios and AFAIK they have not put any HD kit in. I've no idea if any will go in before we all move into new studios in the new BHX in 2012. By BHX you mean Birmingham, right? (just

Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-14 Thread Brian Butterworth
2008/5/14 Gareth Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Brian Butterworth wrote: Does that mean a BBC News HD channel would be possible? Why would it be? SDI is the usual way we send SD digital audio and video round the studios. The bitrate may be high, but it is still interlaced SD resolution video. I

Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-14 Thread Jeremy James
Gareth Davis wrote: Why would it be? SDI is the usual way we send SD digital audio and video round the studios. The bitrate may be high, but it is still interlaced SD resolution video. I can't remember the various different bandwidth figures for HD SDI, and I can't be bothered digging through

RE: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-14 Thread Gareth Davis
Christopher Woods wrote: By BHX you mean Birmingham, right? (just doublechecking) And is everything moving for News (studios AND live broadcast coordination, all that stuff, and not just any one element of it?) Sorry if it's a stupid question, but I've been

Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-14 Thread Tom Hannen
Most people just call it Egton... On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Gareth Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher Woods wrote: By BHX you mean Birmingham, right? (just doublechecking) And is everything moving for News (studios AND live broadcast coordination, all that stuff, and not just

Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-14 Thread Richard Compston
-- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Richard Compston *Sent:* 13 May 2008 19:05 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels Moving away from the legal wrangles for a moment, I must say I'm not too

Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-13 Thread Matt Barber
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://zattoo.com/ http://informitv.com/articles/2008/05/09/zattooclaimscopyright/ Zattoo, which is now offering live online streams of the leading British terrestrial television channels, is claiming it has the

RE: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-13 Thread Robin Cramp
for change. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 May 2008 14:35 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Brian

Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-13 Thread Brian Butterworth
: Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://zattoo.com/ http://informitv.com/articles/2008/05/09/zattooclaimscopyright/ Zattoo, which is now offering live online streams of the leading British

Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-13 Thread Richard Compston
] On Behalf Of Matt Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 May 2008 14:35 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://zattoo.com/ http://informitv.com/articles

Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-13 Thread Brian Butterworth
- live streaming BBC channels On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://zattoo.com/ http://informitv.com/articles/2008/05/09/zattooclaimscopyright/ Zattoo, which is now offering live online streams of the leading British

RE: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-13 Thread Christopher Woods
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 13 May 2008 19:57 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels I agree, the picture on Livestation is much better too. 2008/5/13 Richard Compston [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Moving away from the legal

Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels

2008-05-13 Thread Brian Butterworth
done something here. How long does Zattoo get? -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth *Sent:* 13 May 2008 19:57 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels I