Susn,
yes, but how do you know when the particular academic question is just
not the relevant one to ask from a spiritual point of view?
I guess I'm thinking along the lines that Baha'u'llah cautioned, "This
Day, O Shaykh, hath never been, nor is it now, the Day whereon man-made
arts and sciences
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But
there is a spiritual trap in the academic approach to spiritual matters, is
there not?
Owen
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Hi
all,
I
think what needs to be identified in questions like this, is what is the
underlying cause of both recognising and not recognising the Manaifestation of
God. This is an eternal question. East - west and any prophetic aspects are
related to the era that has now gone
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Sexuality is such a strong force in life, and I'm sure it has needed to
be for the human being to get to this place. It is part of the concept of love,
of attraction, that we cherish in so many other ways. It is also closely
associate with the egocentricism in all of us. After
Susan, sorry, I've trashed my email on this, so can't check on my
grammar. The following, hopefully, provides more sense.
In the Baha'i belief, the love of God is fostered through the revelation
of Baha'u'llah. The revelation is based on a covenant that provides us
with a Universal House of Justi
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Mathew, but does
'creature' only imply plants and animals as we know them from the Earth's
environment? I suppose it would suggest animated in some
way.
Owen
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Susan,
there is a
sense I get that we can't seperate the forces of God's major plan
and minor plan.
From the
Universal House of Justice we read that," We are told by Shoghi Effendi
that two great processes are at work in the world: the great Plan of God,
tumultuous in its
Blind obedience is when there is no attempt to understand the processes
behind a ruling or a law. Perhaps it is associated with literal views of
the world. It is certainly associated with a wish that someone else will
give the answer to the question, to tell one what to do, and fix it so
it doesn't
Brent,
And, because the House can revoke that which it has previously
instituted, this suggeststs that changes in society and changes in
knowledge can lead to the House making changes which are then
'infallible' for the period they are enacted. Infallibility therefore
seems to be a concept encompa
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David,You said, "I notice that the first set of
questions, in section 1, is not based on anypassage from the Writings.
Usually in Ruhi the questions are preceded by apassage, but here the
questions are to be answered from the editorialcomments provided. I'm
not saying that e
In the quote from the Universal House of Justice previously used on this
topic, they finish by pointing out "that it is only one of the many
temptations and faults that a human being must strive to overcome during
his lifetime, and you should not increase the difficulty you have by
over-emphasizing
As with most Baha'i teachings, it can be almost automatically recognised
that things are not going to be too easy. One might wonder where the
libido might then come from to make a family. But, then, a society that
makes this level of spirituality their own, is not a society with less
than ephemeral
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Well,
the whole history of religion can be seen in the light of taking the monkey out
of the man. And the monkey in the man tells him that, what is praiseworthy is a
'harem' to pass on his genes. What religion tells the man is that, what is
praiseworthy is to ensure that as ma
Dear Vaughn,
I think it was once suggested on the old Talisman that men be excluded
from the ITC. But that wouldn't change the fact that men get the final
word.
warmest, Susan
Susan,
Except in general men don't get the final word at all. It might be true
that, even at the bottom end of the soci
There was a book called, " The God of Budddha " published in the 1980's.
Never obtained a copy myself but read a copy of a friend and I seem to
remember reference to 'the unborn one', or 'uncreated one'.
Owen
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I think that's it exactly. In the Gleanings Baha'u'llah wrote:
"It is evident that every age in which a Manifestation
of God hath lived is divinely ordained, and
may, in a sense, be characterized as God's appointed
Day. This Day, however, is unique, and is to be distin
'I believe that it is not that He is a different category of
Manifestation than Nabi or Rasul. In essence He is like every other
Manifestation; though His Revelation is greater.
The Greatness of the Revelation of Baha'u'llah is shown by the fact that
the Qur'an does not state that another Prophe
It might be interesting if anyone knows a source for the interpretations
which started the Seventh Day Adventist Church to await the coming of
christ in 1844.
Regards
Owen
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Paul,
I think there must be some value in what you are saying here.
In any case, as principle I think we can look at the concept of the
Universal House of Justice and its membership, including the electoral
system that supports it, as one of the 'tools' that has been revealed to
Baha'u'llah as ap
Susan,
I guess I just don't agree with your assertion here about men in power
and women in service as relates to the House of Justice. The symbolic
issue may be important, but its importance may go to the question of
justice on a global scale rather than as a equity issue. We should
acknowledge th
Susan and all, I'm still confused as to why the discrimination regarding
the membership of the Universal House of Justice is perceived as a
problem. So I'm not quite sure what the discussion is all about. In the
analysis of any problem there are always those who are want to say,
'well it's obvious"
This is interesting to me, because apart from giving our own views on
the
issue in discussion with other Baha'is, without trying to represent our
opinions as the truth, I thought we weren't supposed to say more than
that
we don't know the reason, perhaps adding that in the Faith "Equality of
men
Is there anything from the World Centre since the publication of their
letter some 15 years ago that sheds more light on the subject or
attempts to deal with emotions and reactions generated as the result of
that ruling?
If so, I like to have a copy so I can share with these friends. Thanks
in a
Susan, I hadn't seen those guidelines.
Owen
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> Susan,
> aren't Baha'i studies essentially about the dialogu
Susan,
aren't Baha'i studies essentially about the dialogue between
contemporary society and the Baha'i teachings?. So any contemporary
issue, and courtship would have to be one of the more important, must
fall into the framework somewhere.
Regards
Owen
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David,
It seems to me that one of the values of 'engagement' and its briefish
period in Baha'i Law, is so that commitment can be ensured on the one
hand but, if not forthcoming, neither party is restricted from other
prospects for too long a period, on the other.
Stages of relationships toward m
Perhaps add a little space travel and genetic engineering.
Owen
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> Why then will future Manifestations come?
m and Liberalism
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Sometime in the future the Baha'i Faith will enter its winter and only a
few will be able to see their way to the next springtime. Do we allow
fate to carry us to that or do we exert every spiritual muscle to
prevent it? What do
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StudiesSubject: Fundamentalism and LiberalismThis continues my
review of articles from Reaso
David, I thought this passage referred to such things as death as
irrevocable. That is, once enacted, to bring to life again has enormous
implications. Impending might be about a whole host of social and
environmental interactions that can be changed.
The concept of existence, from a physics view o
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