>
>
> >>If I didnt know any better I would have said that Abdul-Baha was
cheating in order to make 3.5 days into 1260 years. Perhaps Im missing
something...>>
Dear David,
Joachim de Flora, the medieval founder of Dispensationalism concluded that
1260 (A.D.) would be the year as well. I think it
> Why? It seems to me that the difficulties of interpretation are too
> great, and the chances of destroying aesthetic value and wrongly
> denying freedom of expression, too high.
Dear William,
Except artistic work is subject to review if it is intended for mass
distribution. At one time they tri
Dear Tim,
Here's Rob's responses to your questions regarding Baha'i Review.
warmest, Susan
> These are excellent questions. I'll respond below.
>
> -- Robert Stockman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Susan Maneck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent
Khazeh jan,
Do you have your translation of the Tablet of a
Thousand Verses on the net anywhere?
warmest, Susan
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Mr. Grossman's interpretation tells volumes about how
> hard Mr. Grossman finds administrative service in the Faith, and how much
he
> puts into it.
Dear Vaughn,
I think that's what Mark was trying to say when we suggested Mr. Grossman
had been an administrator too long. I don't think he was sugg
Dear Tim,
I'm ccing this message to Rob Stockman since he runs the Review Office and
is in a better postion to answer your questions. But I'll tell you what I
know (or at least think I know.)
You wrote:
"1. If a character in a story believes things and does things
that would be easily recogni
> I am a member of my local spiritual assembly, but I dont claim to be a
Bahai administrator. I know one, though. He gets up at 5:00 every morning
to pray for two hours for his community before he goes to work. He and his
family support the activities of the friends, their firesides and feasts a
I recall that Ruhiyyih Khanum once reported that the Guardian said to her
that her mother was a hero but her father was a saint. I'm not sure he was
trying to say that her mother was better than her father, much less that
Horace Holley was greater than both of them.
warmest, Susan
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> "If a man is found lying with the wife of another man, both of them shall
> die, the man who lay with the woman, and the woman; so you shall purge the
> evil from Israel." (Deuteronomy 22:22)
>
> I'm assuming here that this law covers either fornication or adultery by
the
> man.
No, it doesn't.
> Thank you. However, I am not subscribed to the Baha'i Biblical Studies
> list.
And Daniel, unfortunately, isn't subscribed to Baha'i Studies.
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Subject: Moses and the Pentateuch
> Dear Richard,
>
> wrote the Bible around 400 B.C.>
>
>
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To: "Susan Maneck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:06 AM
Subject: Temptation of Abraham
> Dear Susan,
>
> Here is a short note on the temptation of Abraham
The last
> sentence is interesting, as how was Abraham's steadfastness and detachment
> demonstrated to men? Did He go around telling people about His
experience,
> including the voices from heaven?
It got written down in the Bible. ;-}
David, historians don't know if Abraham ever even existed.
> Can anyone confirm the rumor that the Encyclopedia project under the US
> NSA has been halted by the House?
Dear Marlene,
Unless you are talking about something that happened real recently it has
not been halted. However, articles for the Encyclopedia have to be reviewed
at the World Centre an
> I have heard that he could also speak at least good 'tourist' French and
> Italian, but don't know where these stories came from.
Dear Don,
His French was excellent. The Guardian was first educated in French at
Catholic schools in Haifa and Lebanon. He counted in French his entire life.
At the
"Perhaps the effect of the ablution lasts for twenty-four hours, or until
the repetitions have been completed; which ever is completed first."
I don't think so, Richard. I think if you interrupt your prayers or a dhikr
after you have performed your abolutions, you need to do them again. The
idea
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> I'm just trying to understand the sense of this law. Obviously it's
trying
> to make things easier for women, but wouldn't it be more easy to say the
> short obligatory prayer after ablutions than repeat those words 95 times?
Dear David,
I expect most of us do. But if we forget, saying those w
"Very few Azalís behave as Nima."
Dear Badi,
Do you know other Azalis?
You are probably correct. Becoming an Azali was simply part of this man's
rebellion against the House of Justice. I expect most Azalis are such
because that is what their parents are.
"My only interest is to obtain informati
I have never heard of Jesus' brothers
> being involved in any serious persecution of Jesus or His followers during
> Jesus' lifetime.
Dear David,
I think there is reason to believe Jesus family to oppose Him at some point
in His ministry. But I think the Gospel writers would be reluctant to tal
The
> problem of this passage is that it would indicate that non-Baha'is are
"bad
> associates" or "lepers," whom we should not associate with. Jesus'
brothers
> and Tahirih's sons were not bad people (I don't think), but 'Abdu'l-Baha
is
> clearly implying that Jesus and Tahirih's avoidance of th
" Then as a means of explanation states that "Moslem artists are forbidden
to draw animals, people and plants..." Therefore they have instead
developed beautiful expressions of art through abstract design and
calligraphy.
Question is: Are such drawings "forbidden" and what is the source?"
Dear
> Have you seen a breakdown of the Qur'an with regard to the number 19? I
> have one in my possession.
Yes, the problem is you can play this game with almost any number.
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Dear Larry,
The same method was applied to Qur'an by a rather eccentric Imam from Tucson
who came to the conclusion that everything came to the Number 19. But in my
opinion this is all nonsense. Here is a URL: http://skepdic.com/bibcode.html
warmest, Susan
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Oh, i see the problem. There are apparently two archives. You can access
the public ones here:
> > http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist (public)
Steve,. do you have a URL for that archive? I'm not sure how the passwords
on this oen work. I think everyone may have their own.
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Dear friends,
I few weeks ago we had a problem with a Covenant breaker
posting on this list who we immediately removed. It seems this same Covenant
breaker posted a message in my guest book and signed it Mirza Husayn Ali. There
is no way for me to remove this little piece of blasphemy dire
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> Why do we hark back to a bygone era continually in order to discuss ideas.
> Can we be original or is it impossible because of so much that has gone
> before?
Sure you can be original, Michael, if you don't mind speaking a language no
one else understands. But then, of course, you cease to commu
> Well, Susan jan, you may have to roll up the sleeves on this one and come
> up with a more befitting translation. It certainly will have the market
as
> it's a foundational text and would make a great project.
Uh, I'm afraid it's a little beyong me, Ahang jan. Let's pawn it off on
Will. ;-}
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> By the way it's available in English, though I don't recall the
> translator(s).
Franz Rosenthal translated it, but the translation isn't very good.
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"A note in Miracles and Metaphors points out that "Ibn-Khaldun, who has been
called the founder of sociology, argued that religion can only succeed if it
receives the backing of the prophet's people on the basis of kinship
solidarity". Was he truly the founder of sociology? Why was he called th
> You ask if there are any texts which state that the institution of the
> Guardianship can exist without a living Guardian.
Dear Peter,
This thread hasn't appeared on Baha'i Studies.
warmest, Susan
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Dear Ahang,
I was struck by this:
"Dr Khan identified four areas in particular that he felt the Baha¹i
community, complementary to its focus on the core lines of action, could
contribute to the spiritual and social rehabilitation of western society"
Those four were as follows:
1. Buildin
> Would "have" grounds or "would not have" grounds?
Dear Richard,
I was told that Mason Remey's plan for the Haifa Temple *would* be used.
warmest, Susan
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> Has the House actually confirmed that the Remey design will be built?
> Given that the Master and Guardian approved Remey and his design before
> he broke the covenant, it would seem that the House would have grounds
> to alter the decision.
That is what I was told when I was on pilgrimage.
Thanks, Khazeh. This is quite useful. I was trying to figure out what the
difference was between qara' and telavat myself.
warmest, Susan
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> Does that mean that if a person had memorized all of Baha'u'llah's
Writings
> they would still have to literally read His Writings everyday, as opposed
to
> just selecting a passage from memory and going over it in their mind or
> reciting it aloud?
Dear David,
If you know someone who has actu
> What about Western believers who do not know how to chant? Do our words
> have the same effect or should we learn to chant?
I fear if I tried chanting the angels would *really* scatter!
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Dear Friends As about the literal meaning of the root of this word,
ALMONJED,
Dear Faruq,
How do we get almonjed from Telavat? There doesn't appear to be a letter
they have in common!
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> >>You might think of it as reciting in the sense of 're-cite.'<<
>
> In the sense of dhikr or zakkar (adhkar)?
No, I don't think so. Dhikr recites the same word again and again and again.
warmest, Susan
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> Thank you. It wasn't understandable anyway.
Dear Richard,
What that was all about is that some people on another list had taken
Michael's word for it when he asserted that the Guardian was gay and never
slept with his wife. They insisted the only reason I wouldn't believe him
because he was a
Dear friends,
That last post was made by a declared Covenant breaker. Please do not
respond.
warmest, Susan
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> Susan,
>
> Okay, here is the best I can do:
>
> "... the principle that local activities
Dear friends,
Sometime ago the Universal House of Justice wrote the following:
"The beloved Guardian has explained that the general and national interests
of the Cause take precedence over local ones; thus contributions to local
funds are secondary to those to national funds. However, the stabil
"The cause of unfortunes, such as desease, troubles, tribulations etc., as
`Abdu'l-Baha says, are either the Will of God to teach us a lesson, or our
own faults. If you want I can try to find His Word and have it translated
for you. Not all of unfortunes are God-sent."
Dear Faruq,
Isn't there
Re: Two Adams??"She seems to think that she saw it in an article in the
Baha'i Studies Journal and that the statement was attributed to Abd'ul-
Baha. That wouldn't happen to ring any bells for you, would it?"
Dear Jeanne,
The only reference i know to *two* Adams is from the New Testament where
P
> >The 10,000 to 100,000 year mentioned by the Master seems to indicate the
beginning of human race around that time in my opinion.
>
> Aside from being a confirmation of current scientific thinking, does it
matter, from a scientific point of view, when the Master said that the human
race started?
"If you accept the evidence for the Eve or the out of Africa theory, science
has already confirmed the origin of our present species 100,000 years ago."
Dear Marlene,
I think even without the 'Eve' theory Homo Sapiens are supposed to emerge
about 100,000 years ago aren't they?
The Agricultral
"Dear Susan You're right. I have seen what you say about the age of this
world, but I couldn't find an answer to this Word of `Abdu'l-Baha about `ten
thousand years'. Could you look at it in Makatib or second volume of
Ma'idih (vol. 2, chapter 35)? (you can find it in both books)"
Dear Faruq
"The Tablet is in Persian. First, I was amazed when I cast a look at the
figure, but then I thought it must have been revealed long ago and there
might be some evidence just to show the age of the world more than six
thousand, and may be ten thousand. But, maybe your conjecture is correct
not min
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Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 6:20 PM
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Dear Susan,
I thought it might be of interest to the people on B St. that the Bab in the
Persia
> A friend has mentioned that she seems to remember reading something from
> either Shoghi Effendi or Abdu'l-Baha where he stated that the Adam of the
> Garden of Eden was not the same Adam who was the Manifestation of God.
Dear Jeanne,
I thought I'd answer this post earlier, but for some reason
Hi folks,
I'm hopelessly behind in my email, so I apologize for taking so long to
forward the following:
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Dear Badi,
To my knowledge Avarih was never designated a Hand of the
Cause, in fact, I don't think Abdu'l-Baha appointed any.
warmest, Susan
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Dear Jim,
Since you are new to this list, how about an introduction? Can we get a bio
from you? In fact, perhaps we could all do with a round of bios since I
think we have had a number of new subscribers recently.
I'm Susan Maneck and I manage this list on behalf of Mark Foster, the list
However, not all words
> of all minutes of all Assembly meetings need be protected under
> confidentiality.
Dear Marleen,
Those involving personal problems are likely to be the most confidential of
all, and these are the ones most important for a study such as the one Jim
is suggesting.
warmest
> It is forbidden you to wed your fathers' wives. We shrink, for very
shame,
> from treating of the subject of boys. Fear ye the Merciful, O peoples of
> the world! Commit not that which is forbidden you in Our Holy Tablet, and
be
> not of those who rove distractedly in the wilderness of their d
"Confidential studies happen all the time. Researchers sign confidentiality
oaths. Names and identifiers are translated into code."
Dear Marleen,
I wasn't thinking of maintaining the confidentiality of the subjects. I was
thinking about maintaining Assembly confidentiality, etc.
warmest, Susan
Contrary
> to what I said the NSA could and should commission some kinds of
> research. I suppose there is no reason it cannot commission research
> and construct some distance between it and the research. I need to
> think again. Although I still think we should allow and construct a
> sphere of i
> Does anyone know where I can find counterarguments to each of the reasons
> given by the House of Justice, for continuing the review process, in its
> messages of 8 September 1991, 10 December 1992, and 5 October 1993?
Dear Jim,
I believe those are the latest letters on that issue. But why a
> That the Bahai Faith could not or should not be "organized".
Dear Steve,
Ruth White would quote a pilgrim's note which reported Abdu'l-Baha as saying
the Baha'i Faith could never be organized. She used it to oppose Shoghi
Effendi's efforts to create the administrative order. My recollection is
> I am not sure that if I were on the NSA I would commission a
> scientific study on social problems within the Baha'i Faith. For a
> start research takes up resources.
Dear William,
I agree they wouldn't do it under that rubric. But they might very well be
interested in a study which focused on
> Something tells me you don't approve of Fred's Web site.
And it has nothing to do with the fact he has nine pages on it denouncing
me. ;-}
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> >>Has there been any scholarship on social problems within the Baha'i
Faith, such as abusive behavior, corruption of institutions, and
mind-control cults?<<
>
> There have been opinion pieces but, to my knowledge, no objective
treatments of this subject.
I'm not sure that there could be. I'm not
> So, has there been any (other?) scholarship on social problems within the
> Baha'i Faith
Hmmm. Again, I don't know if you would call this scholarship but there is
book entitled something like "Love and Estrangement with the Baha'i
community" which I think is pretty good. It has been a long tim
> Yes. Just today I stumbled upon the following:
> http://www.chick.com/catalog/tractlist.asp
> This is so gross and crude you might scream.
Dear Alex,
Believe it or not you can find these tracts everywhere in the US.
warmest, Susan
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Dear Susan
In relation to the discussion on this subject on
Baha'I Studies, the friends might note that Article V, Sect
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Dear Susan,
You might pass this on as a point for the current discussi
> > -the 'fireside' method is being somewhat ignored in the recent
> emphasis
> > on Ruhi, IMO. It is still a valid way of teaching (how can something
> > recommended so highly by the Guardian become invalid?) and I suspect
> if
> > we had all opened our homes as regularly as was suggested (each 1
Also, Book 6 tends to be overly rigid in its conception of how
> >to teach at firesides. It emphasizes controlling the amount of
information
> >given to the seeker rather than answering the questions in their heart
> >which is
> >what the Guardian stressed.
>
> Only if it is improperly tutored.
De
> >>>They give their membership as 144,000, which is obviously absurd, but I
think I know where they got that number from.<<
Dear David,
I don't think 144,000 is the number of membership, I think it is the number
of Baha'is they expect eventually to go over to them.
Right now, I don't think they
> I think everyone here knows of the passage in which 'Abdu'l-Baha tells us
to
> teach one person per year. This passage is often cited to show that if
> Baha'is live their life properly and teach properly the outcome will be
that
> they will convert one person to the Faith a year. It is also su
Earlier we had a thread regarding the influence of Islam on the Renaissance.
Some of you might find the topic of the following conference interesting;
Retelling the Renaissance, East and West
"Retelling the Renaissance, East and West"
Institute for Arab and Islamic Studies, Exeter University, 30
Dear Jim,
You've got some great ideas here. I'd like to see how you fill them out.
warmest, Susan
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My advice: if the
> minutiae of bathing are that important to you (why?), ask for an
elucidation
> from the Universal House of Justice.
> And don't tell them I sent you...
Don't tell them I sent you either. But Shoghi Effendi and 'Abdu'l-Baha both
said this is not our business, and I'm quite happy
Dear David,
I think you need to keep in mind that deciding the minutae of Baha'i law is
not the function of scholarship in this Day, though it was in past
Dispensations. As Shoghi Effendi stated:
"But praise be to God that the Pen of Glory has done away with the
unyielding an dictatorial views of
> Here, one of our members asked if the Arabic word used by Baha'u'llah to
> refer to the "Self" of God might have more meanings than the translation
> can provide.
Dear Brian,
The term translated as "Self" in this passage literally means His "Own
Being."
Hope that helps.
warmest, Susan
-
> Why couldn't soldiers be commanded to sneak to some location where the
enemy
> is hiding, and kill them on arrival? That would be murder. Are you
saying
> a Baha'i should refuse to cooperate then, but could otherwise kill?
Dear David,
I'm not sure that is the best example. But surely a Baha'i
Dear friends,
I should add that if Mina is able to get a visa to come to the US we will be
adding her to the agenda of the AAR.
warmest, Susan
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bably make myself
available. The Baha'i panels at the AAR will be as follows:
Bahá'í Studies Colloquy 2003: session 1
Sunday, November 23, 2003, 7-8:30 p.m.
Atlanta Marriott Marquis Hotel, Madrid Room
Dr. Susan Maneck, Jackson State University, presiding
7:00Dr. Richard Thomas, Michi
> Allah'u'Abha! Please advise where I can find the Service of Women paper
and
> the statistics compiled in connection to that.
Dear Mina,
The 1996 statistics are more recent. Do you still want these older ones?
warmest, Susan
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> OK, so if lengthy msgs are a problem for a few, how about an education
> campaign for the others on how to eliminate the html version from
> their msgs?
Dear Don,
As I indicated, this can't be done for AOL users. In Outlook if you see
those lines you go up and click on "Format" and then click o
>
> You mean that AOL users have to send in both formats?
Dear Don,
What I mean is that AOL email has html embedded even in their plain email
and there is no tool to eliminate those.
warmest, Susan
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> At least as serious are the Outlook users who use the default settings
> and send everything in both plaintext and html.
Dear Don,
That isn't possible for AOL users. I've gone to their techies myself.
warmest, Susan
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> One day, someone will write a doctoral dissertation on the style of
> translation of Shoghi Effendi. A lot can be learned from his
> translations.
Dear Brent and David,
Dianne Malouf already did, but I think it will take more than one
dissertation.
I don't think it would be readily apparent t
> But that's not what the 1932 letter stated. It said nothing about monthly
> debt to income ratio or anything that you'd recognize from the
introductory
> Finance 101 course.
Dear Ahang,
Well, I think the principle that is being expressed is that we don't use
contributions to the fund as an exc
> We live in a society that everyone has home mortgage, credit card
payments,
> car loans, college loans, etc. Very few people, if any, are debt free.
Is
> it really practical to hold this dated statement of 1932 as a guiding
> principle?
Dear Ahang,
I've never taken it to me that we pay off all
> I was, however, reading about people who admitted to having difficulty
being
> able to look at Baha'u'llah's face, and power was mentioned. Hence, it
> sounded like more than just custom.
Dear David,
I realize that. What I'm suggesting is that people's experiences are in part
culturally determ
In an earlier
> discussing it was suggested that 'Abdu'l-Baha might be a minor Prophet,
His
> description sounding like a minor Prophet.
Dear David,
I think you misunderstood. I had suggested that 'Abdu'l-Baha's *station*
might be at least as great as those of the lesser prophets, but I never
su
>
> I can't offhand think of any references in which 'Abdu'l-Baha indicates He
> is Revealing something.
I don't think Abdu'l-Baha ever made such a claim but my recollection is that
Baha'u'llah affirmed that one of His sons could reveal verses.
warmest, Susan
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> I just wanted to note something I only recently noticed about the wording
of
> this sentence. What I refer to is the words "a Revelation direct from
God."
Dear David,
The phrase 'direct from God' is not in the original. The original literally
says whoso layeth claim to a *Cause.* 'Abdu'l-Baha
> Susan is correct in this. The individual referred to is Joseph Perdu.
Yes, that is the person I had in mind.
warmest, Susan
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> Kia Ora Susan. David is correct, this man was not a Covenant breaker at
> that time. He may well have become a Covenant breaker later on but at that
> time when he was residing in New Zealand and Australia, he was not. To be
> honest I have forgotten his name. I think it was around 1951 that th
> I'm kind of doubting this. It seems implied that the error of that person
> was only related to a monetary issue, which would not make one a
> Covenant-breaker.
Dear David,
I said that because I have other information about the person involved. My
recollection is that he was expelled after vis
> Further on this issue, I happened to think of how in Iran there is a
secret
> underground Baha'i university. Aren't the Baha'is in Iran being
disobedient
> to their government in having this? If they didn't feel they were being
> disobedient it wouldn't be kept under wraps.
Dear David,
There
> I remember reading a quotation by Shoghi Effendi or written on his behalf
> stating that paying off one's debts comes before contributing to the Fund.
> I cannot find it. Does anyone know of it? All the ones I have been able to
> find are the following. Thank you, Loni Bramson
Dear Loni,
I th
> The following authentic passage might be read to indicate that the
> Manifestation has always come from the East,
Dear David,
Part of the problem here may be that the same word can be used in Arabic to
mean Dawning-point or East.
warmest, Susan
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> If we were to take this as an accurate statement of a limitation on the
> nature and powers of the National and Universal House of Justice, how
> would we reconcile this with the Guardian's statement to the US NSA about
> "the relations that should be maintained between the central
> administrati
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