Re: Using BBEdit for markdown presentation?

2021-04-20 Thread Christopher Stone
On 04/20/2021, at 14:31, Tibor Páli mailto:palitiborlas...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Is TextsQuickLook.qlgenerator a script that you wrote, it is something 
> provided with Marked 2?
> Tibor
> 
>> I've got 3 apps on my system that include a Quick Look module for MarkDown.
>> 
>> com.barebones.bbedit.markdown-source -> 
>> /Applications/Applications_Chris/Markdown_Apps/Texts/Texts.app/Contents/Library/QuickLook/TextsQuickLook.qlgenerator
>>  (1.0)
>> 
>> net.daringfireball.markdown -> 
>> /Applications/Applications_Chris/Markdown_Apps/Texts/Texts.app/Contents/Library/QuickLook/TextsQuickLook.qlgenerator
>>  (1.0)
>> 
>> public.plain-text -> 
>> /Applications/Applications_Chris/Markdown_Apps/Texts/Texts.app/Contents/Library/QuickLook/TextsQuickLook.qlgenerator
>>  (1.0)
>> 
>> Quick Look can see Markdown files, and Spotlight can find their content.


Hey Tibor,

No, look more carefully at the listed apps.

I was mistaken – there are only two apps – BBEdit and Texts.app.  The Texts.app 
actually has two text flavors – plain text and markdown.

You can discover a few things about Quick Look by using the Terminal:

man qlmanage

qlmanage -m | egrep -i "markdown"

Texts.app (freeware) is a bit like Marked, but it's an editor – not just a 
viewer.

http://www.texts.io 

Unfortunately it hasn't been updated since 2016.

There're one or more 3rd party QL modules.  Here's one:

https://github.com/toland/qlmarkdown 

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Re: Using BBEdit for markdown presentation?

2021-04-20 Thread Tibor Páli
Is TextsQuickLook.qlgenerator a script that you wrote, it is something provided 
with Marked 2?
Tibor

> On 2021. Apr 20., at 20:42, Christopher Stone  
> wrote:
> 
> On 04/20/2021, at 12:23, Tibor Páli  > wrote:
>> So, if I force to open an .md file with Safari, it opens it as an 
>> un-rendered markdown text file, just like BBEdit.
>> 
>> I think Chrome can render markdown files. I my install and try.
> 
> 
> Hey Tibor,
> 
> Take a good look at Marked 2, before you spend much more time on this.
> 
> 
> URL Handler
> 
> Marked’s URL handler provides additional scripting and workflow capabilities. 
> You can include a url in the notes of another application, for example, that 
> will open a file in Marked when clicked. You can perform several actions, as 
> listed below.
> 
> https://marked2app.com/help/URL_Handler.html 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I've got 3 apps on my system that include a Quick Look module for MarkDown.
> 
> com.barebones.bbedit.markdown-source -> 
> /Applications/Applications_Chris/Markdown_Apps/Texts/Texts.app/Contents/Library/QuickLook/TextsQuickLook.qlgenerator
>  (1.0)
> 
> net.daringfireball.markdown -> 
> /Applications/Applications_Chris/Markdown_Apps/Texts/Texts.app/Contents/Library/QuickLook/TextsQuickLook.qlgenerator
>  (1.0)
> 
> public.plain-text -> 
> /Applications/Applications_Chris/Markdown_Apps/Texts/Texts.app/Contents/Library/QuickLook/TextsQuickLook.qlgenerator
>  (1.0)
> 
> Quick Look can see Markdown files, and Spotlight can find their content.
> 
> --
> Best Regards,
> Chris
> 
> 
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Re: Using BBEdit for markdown presentation?

2021-04-20 Thread Tibor Páli
Dear Chris,

this is great!

I will check it out!

Tibor

> On 2021. Apr 20., at 20:42, Christopher Stone  
> wrote:
> 
> On 04/20/2021, at 12:23, Tibor Páli  > wrote:
>> So, if I force to open an .md file with Safari, it opens it as an 
>> un-rendered markdown text file, just like BBEdit.
>> 
>> I think Chrome can render markdown files. I my install and try.
> 
> 
> Hey Tibor,
> 
> Take a good look at Marked 2, before you spend much more time on this.
> 
> 
> URL Handler
> 
> Marked’s URL handler provides additional scripting and workflow capabilities. 
> You can include a url in the notes of another application, for example, that 
> will open a file in Marked when clicked. You can perform several actions, as 
> listed below.
> 
> https://marked2app.com/help/URL_Handler.html 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I've got 3 apps on my system that include a Quick Look module for MarkDown.
> 
> com.barebones.bbedit.markdown-source -> 
> /Applications/Applications_Chris/Markdown_Apps/Texts/Texts.app/Contents/Library/QuickLook/TextsQuickLook.qlgenerator
>  (1.0)
> 
> net.daringfireball.markdown -> 
> /Applications/Applications_Chris/Markdown_Apps/Texts/Texts.app/Contents/Library/QuickLook/TextsQuickLook.qlgenerator
>  (1.0)
> 
> public.plain-text -> 
> /Applications/Applications_Chris/Markdown_Apps/Texts/Texts.app/Contents/Library/QuickLook/TextsQuickLook.qlgenerator
>  (1.0)
> 
> Quick Look can see Markdown files, and Spotlight can find their content.
> 
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> Best Regards,
> Chris
> 
> 
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Re: Using BBEdit for markdown presentation?

2021-04-20 Thread Tibor Páli
Dear James, I do not want to replace Apple Notes. I need an interlinked note 
management system (see my explanation in another message).
Tibor

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Re: Using BBEdit for markdown presentation?

2021-04-20 Thread Christopher Stone
On 04/20/2021, at 12:23, Tibor Páli mailto:palitiborlas...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> So, if I force to open an .md file with Safari, it opens it as an un-rendered 
> markdown text file, just like BBEdit.
> 
> I think Chrome can render markdown files. I my install and try.


Hey Tibor,

Take a good look at Marked 2, before you spend much more time on this.


URL Handler

Marked’s URL handler provides additional scripting and workflow capabilities. 
You can include a url in the notes of another application, for example, that 
will open a file in Marked when clicked. You can perform several actions, as 
listed below.

https://marked2app.com/help/URL_Handler.html 





I've got 3 apps on my system that include a Quick Look module for MarkDown.

com.barebones.bbedit.markdown-source -> 
/Applications/Applications_Chris/Markdown_Apps/Texts/Texts.app/Contents/Library/QuickLook/TextsQuickLook.qlgenerator
 (1.0)

net.daringfireball.markdown -> 
/Applications/Applications_Chris/Markdown_Apps/Texts/Texts.app/Contents/Library/QuickLook/TextsQuickLook.qlgenerator
 (1.0)

public.plain-text -> 
/Applications/Applications_Chris/Markdown_Apps/Texts/Texts.app/Contents/Library/QuickLook/TextsQuickLook.qlgenerator
 (1.0)

Quick Look can see Markdown files, and Spotlight can find their content.

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Re: Using BBEdit for markdown presentation?

2021-04-20 Thread Todd Wachob


>  On Apr 20, 2021, at 1:23 PM, Tibor Páli  wrote:
> 
> So, if I force to open an .md file with Safari, it opens it as an un-rendered 
> markdown text file, just like BBEdit.
> 
> I think Chrome can render markdown files. I my install and try.

An application requires an implementation of a Markdown parser before it can 
convert from Markdown to HTML.  Some applications have them built in, others 
don’t. 

I checked Safari and Chrome: neither browser will open a Markdown file. 

Have you read the Markdown project web page? It’s at

daringfireball.net/projects/markdown

and contains information about Markdown implementations. 

Todd

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Re: Using BBEdit for markdown presentation?

2021-04-20 Thread Tibor Páli
and before html there was the fully text-based usenet system that was very fast 
to write, browse and find info (with grep search) using pine or macsoup.

Never, since then I could review and manage essential information as quickly, 
cleanly and efficiently as with usenet.

Today, even if I know that a page exist and I know the content it is often 
difficult or impossible to formulate the search string in say google to 
actually bring up that page.

Tibor

> On 2021. Apr 20., at 18:50, James Reynolds  
> wrote:
> 
> Ok, I've got to say this. The original WorldWideWeb (Nexus) browser from 1990 
> had the ability to edit, link, and browse documents. And didn't HyperCard 
> have this functionality too? Basically a rich text editor, browser, and note 
> organizer? The internet is massive now but I think the original purpose 
> behind the whole thing was kind of lost. I mean, I don't know of anything 
> that really has this functionality that is targeted for power users and works 
> rock solid. I've never used Evernote. Maybe it can do it? It is hard for me 
> to buy into it, especially if it locks me into their product. Maybe this 
> broke down because nobody could decide what the best editor was (we still 
> have vi) and well, Netscape vs Microsoft and now Google.
> 
> James

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Re: Using BBEdit for markdown presentation?

2021-04-20 Thread Tibor Páli
Yes, it is very strange that although markdown has great uses in many areas and 
it is very much simpler than RTF or HTML neither the OS (Mac standard quick 
view also does not know it) or standard browsers can render a markdown file 
without some hacking.

Best, Tibor

> On 2021. Apr 20., at 18:50, James Reynolds  
> wrote:
> 
> Ok, I've got to say this. The original WorldWideWeb (Nexus) browser from 1990 
> had the ability to edit, link, and browse documents. And didn't HyperCard 
> have this functionality too? Basically a rich text editor, browser, and note 
> organizer? The internet is massive now but I think the original purpose 
> behind the whole thing was kind of lost. I mean, I don't know of anything 
> that really has this functionality that is targeted for power users and works 
> rock solid. I've never used Evernote. Maybe it can do it? It is hard for me 
> to buy into it, especially if it locks me into their product. Maybe this 
> broke down because nobody could decide what the best editor was (we still 
> have vi) and well, Netscape vs Microsoft and now Google.
> 
> James

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Re: Using BBEdit for markdown presentation?

2021-04-20 Thread Tibor Páli
So, if I force to open an .md file with Safari, it opens it as an un-rendered 
markdown text file, just like BBEdit.

I think Chrome can render markdown files. I my install and try.

Best, Tibor

> On 2021. Apr 20., at 18:43, Gerald Davenport  wrote:
> 
> Tibor...  I figured I was out of line...  Sorry.
> Thought it might have worked.
> 
> When you say safari cannot be selected, have you changed the ENABLE: 
> Recommended Applications to All Applications. then you can choose what ever 
> app you want to open anything in.
> 
> **_I no I do not need to say to this group that it could be troublesome if 
> you choose an app that cannot handle the file. like choosing text edit to 
> open an illustrator file._**
> 
> It will try, but may not work.
> 
> - gerald

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Re: Using BBEdit for markdown presentation?

2021-04-20 Thread Tibor Páli
Dear James, thanks for your thoughts.

I came to the markdown territory because I want to rationalise my note taking. 
It is a bit off-topic but let me explain briefly because BBEdit is central to 
it. Until now I exclusively logged notes and tasks in plain text files in 
BBEdit. 

All notes (work, hobby, family) of a day goes into an everything_log file (for 
the past 3 years the size is about 1.7 million words). It is fastest to find 
things in this file with BBEdit. (I also tried TaskPaper and it was quite fast 
with this big file as well, and it has a very nice tagging system, but no 
links). Certain notes belong to different projects, so I copy those notes into 
project-specific logs and I mark those notes with [logged in project1] etc.. 
However, there is a conceptual problem with this workflow: hardly any note 
belongs to only a single project. So I copy-paste many notes to several project 
logs. And there you see the extra work and time with this workflow.

So, I decided that I need a new system where I need to enter everything only 
once and let related notes to be interlinked, so that I can follow connections. 
I don’t want to embed graphics or whatever in these logs, only link to them. 
Keep the notes still text based. Question: single (database like) file or notes 
as independent files? Single big files are very good for BBEdit and TaskPaper, 
at least for searching. But managing relationships would be difficult just only 
with tags, without links. If it is a single database of proprietary format, I 
would depend on one sw developer. If it is a big number of files of different 
sizes, I would need multi-file search in BBEdit to find things, but Spotlight 
and Devon could index the files too.

Anyway, I was/am looking at many options: Tinderbox, Devonthink, Scrivener 
(have these), TheBrain (evaluating the trial), TaskPaper(evaluating the trial), 
Obsidian (currently there is a free version). All of these apps have pros and 
cons.

Right now I see that Obsidian has a lot of potential (at least for my purpose; 
it is still in beta): uses plain text markdown files in my drive, renders .md 
even with custom CSS, has tags, links, map, no dependence on any server, etc.. 
I can edit a file in BBEdit, save and it is updated in the app. Of course I can 
browse over the internal .md files (in preview mode) but this does not work 
with external .md files. So, I am testing the possibilities with markdown files 
in general. 

Best,

Tibor

> On 2021. Apr 20., at 18:26, James Reynolds  
> wrote:
> 
> I've been watching this thread and because someone mentioned Joplin I tried 
> it out. I'm having so many problems with it I'm afraid of using it now. It is 
> constantly losing the undo history. When I performed an undo, it wouldn't 
> zoom to the location that was undid so I had to copy the before and after 
> text out of Joplin and put it in BBEdit to do diff to see what changed! I 
> even set BBEdit to the external editor and tried working exclusively that way 
> but if I did anything in Joplin at all it was just a huge liability. I can't 
> even see the point of using it now. I have to reread my entire document now 
> because I don't know what Joplin has done to my document.
> 
> I think BBEdit has spoiled me because it has so many rock solid less-popular 
> features that I've used to work faster and be more productive but they don't 
> transfer to other text editors. And in this case I've learned to use undo and 
> redo to do maybe crazy things like navigate around my document and when I 
> tried it in Joplin it actually put my document in peril.
> 
> I'll just add the only reason I tried Joplin is because I want something that 
> is like Apple's Notes but with Markdown, synchronizes to a cloud of my 
> choosing, and it runs on macOS, iOS, and Linux . It looked like Joplin had 
> all of those things. But yeah, I don't think it's going to work out. I'm 
> wondering if replacing Apple Notes is also the goal of the person who started 
> this thread.
> 
> James

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Re: Using BBEdit for markdown presentation?

2021-04-20 Thread James Reynolds
Ok, I've got to say this. The original WorldWideWeb (Nexus) browser from 1990 
had the ability to edit, link, and browse documents. And didn't HyperCard have 
this functionality too? Basically a rich text editor, browser, and note 
organizer? The internet is massive now but I think the original purpose behind 
the whole thing was kind of lost. I mean, I don't know of anything that really 
has this functionality that is targeted for power users and works rock solid. 
I've never used Evernote. Maybe it can do it? It is hard for me to buy into it, 
especially if it locks me into their product. Maybe this broke down because 
nobody could decide what the best editor was (we still have vi) and well, 
Netscape vs Microsoft and now Google.

James


> On Apr 20, 2021, at 10:26 AM, James Reynolds  
> wrote:
> 
> I've been watching this thread and because someone mentioned Joplin I tried 
> it out. I'm having so many problems with it I'm afraid of using it now. It is 
> constantly losing the undo history. When I performed an undo, it wouldn't 
> zoom to the location that was undid so I had to copy the before and after 
> text out of Joplin and put it in BBEdit to do diff to see what changed! I 
> even set BBEdit to the external editor and tried working exclusively that way 
> but if I did anything in Joplin at all it was just a huge liability. I can't 
> even see the point of using it now. I have to reread my entire document now 
> because I don't know what Joplin has done to my document.
> 
> I think BBEdit has spoiled me because it has so many rock solid less-popular 
> features that I've used to work faster and be more productive but they don't 
> transfer to other text editors. And in this case I've learned to use undo and 
> redo to do maybe crazy things like navigate around my document and when I 
> tried it in Joplin it actually put my document in peril.
> 
> I'll just add the only reason I tried Joplin is because I want something that 
> is like Apple's Notes but with Markdown, synchronizes to a cloud of my 
> choosing, and it runs on macOS, iOS, and Linux . It looked like Joplin had 
> all of those things. But yeah, I don't think it's going to work out. I'm 
> wondering if replacing Apple Notes is also the goal of the person who started 
> this thread.
> 
> James
> 
>> On Apr 20, 2021, at 9:54 AM, Tibor Páli  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Patrick,
>> 
>> many hanks for clarification!
>> 
>> Interestingly, the situation is the same with Devonthink on .md files. I can 
>> open an md. file and it gets rendered but clicking on a link to another .md 
>> file will be opened in BBEdit editor mode. (Some time ago, I could use DT as 
>> browser on rtf documents, but it is its internal doc format). The situation 
>> is same even with Obsidian whose document format is .md, but any time I 
>> activate and external .md file it gets opened with BBEdit :) . (Within the 
>> app I can of course browse over the internal .md files).
>> 
>> So, my best bet right know for presentation/browsing over arbitrary 
>> interlinked markdown files (without living preview mode) is to try Marked 2 
>> or a similar program.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Tibor
>> 
>>> On 2021. Apr 20., at 17:39, Patrick Woolsey  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 4/19/21 at 12:00 PM, palitiborlas...@gmail.com (Tibor Páli) wrote:
>>> 
 Is it possible to have the BBEdit preview to open new .md files by 
 clicking to links and REMAIN WITHIN THE BBEdit Preview, preferably in full 
 screen mode (and opening the .md files in the background)?.
 
>>> 
>>> I regret it is not currently possible to work with Markdown documents in 
>>> the manner you describe above.
>>> 
>>> In broad terms, when you preview a Markdown document, BBEdit will 
>>> automatically generate an HTML temp file from that document and open the 
>>> resulting file in the Preview window.
>>> 
>>> The Preview window is however 'not a browser' i.e. its sole purpose is to 
>>> display the contents of the associated Markdown file (as rendered), and 
>>> thus though any links you click within this window will be externally 
>>> resolved, you cannot use the Preview window to browse through other 
>>> documents, no matter how they're related.
>>> 
>>> That all said, the ability to work with 'sets' of associated Markdown files 
>>> is a matter we have given some thought to over time, and if any of you 
>>> folks have any _specific_ requests or suggestions[*] then you know the 
>>> drill... ;-)
>>> 
>>> [*: emphasis intentional :-) ]
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Patrick Woolsey
>>> ==
>>> Bare Bones Software, Inc. 
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Re: Using BBEdit for markdown presentation?

2021-04-20 Thread Gerald Davenport
Tibor...  I figured I was out of line...  Sorry.
Thought it might have worked.

When you say safari cannot be selected, have you changed the ENABLE:
Recommended Applications to All Applications. then you can choose what
ever app you want to open anything in.

**_I no I do not need to say to this group that it could be troublesome if
you choose an app that cannot handle the file. like choosing text edit to
open an illustrator file._**

It will try, but may not work.

- gerald

On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 9:38 AM Tibor Páli 
wrote:

> Dear Gerald,
>
> If I chose "open with” in Finder, no app is offered with which I could
> browse over several interlinked .md files without leaving the (rendered)
> preview mode. Actually no app is offered at all which does render the
> markdown code. All the offered apps open an .md file in text (markdown
> code) mode. Safari can not be selected (I think Safari can only be used if
> BBEdit translated the md code to html).
>
> BBEdit offers a preview of the rendered markdown but as explained it is
> not a browser. That is when I click a link to another .md file, it will
> open the code in BBEdit.
>
> I think the Chrome browser can render markdown directly. I am thinking
> wether to try Chrome or Marked 2.
>
> Best,
>
> Tibor
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Re: Using BBEdit for markdown presentation?

2021-04-20 Thread Tibor Páli
Dear Gerald,

If I chose "open with” in Finder, no app is offered with which I could browse 
over several interlinked .md files without leaving the (rendered) preview mode. 
Actually no app is offered at all which does render the markdown code. All the 
offered apps open an .md file in text (markdown code) mode. Safari can not be 
selected (I think Safari can only be used if BBEdit translated the md code to 
html).

BBEdit offers a preview of the rendered markdown but as explained it is not a 
browser. That is when I click a link to another .md file, it will open the code 
in BBEdit.

I think the Chrome browser can render markdown directly. I am thinking wether 
to try Chrome or Marked 2.

Best,

Tibor

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Re: Using BBEdit for markdown presentation?

2021-04-20 Thread James Reynolds
I've been watching this thread and because someone mentioned Joplin I tried it 
out. I'm having so many problems with it I'm afraid of using it now. It is 
constantly losing the undo history. When I performed an undo, it wouldn't zoom 
to the location that was undid so I had to copy the before and after text out 
of Joplin and put it in BBEdit to do diff to see what changed! I even set 
BBEdit to the external editor and tried working exclusively that way but if I 
did anything in Joplin at all it was just a huge liability. I can't even see 
the point of using it now. I have to reread my entire document now because I 
don't know what Joplin has done to my document.

I think BBEdit has spoiled me because it has so many rock solid less-popular 
features that I've used to work faster and be more productive but they don't 
transfer to other text editors. And in this case I've learned to use undo and 
redo to do maybe crazy things like navigate around my document and when I tried 
it in Joplin it actually put my document in peril.

I'll just add the only reason I tried Joplin is because I want something that 
is like Apple's Notes but with Markdown, synchronizes to a cloud of my 
choosing, and it runs on macOS, iOS, and Linux . It looked like Joplin had all 
of those things. But yeah, I don't think it's going to work out. I'm wondering 
if replacing Apple Notes is also the goal of the person who started this thread.

James

> On Apr 20, 2021, at 9:54 AM, Tibor Páli  wrote:
> 
> Dear Patrick,
> 
> many hanks for clarification!
> 
> Interestingly, the situation is the same with Devonthink on .md files. I can 
> open an md. file and it gets rendered but clicking on a link to another .md 
> file will be opened in BBEdit editor mode. (Some time ago, I could use DT as 
> browser on rtf documents, but it is its internal doc format). The situation 
> is same even with Obsidian whose document format is .md, but any time I 
> activate and external .md file it gets opened with BBEdit :) . (Within the 
> app I can of course browse over the internal .md files).
> 
> So, my best bet right know for presentation/browsing over arbitrary 
> interlinked markdown files (without living preview mode) is to try Marked 2 
> or a similar program.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Tibor
> 
>> On 2021. Apr 20., at 17:39, Patrick Woolsey  wrote:
>> 
>> On 4/19/21 at 12:00 PM, palitiborlas...@gmail.com (Tibor Páli) wrote:
>> 
>>> Is it possible to have the BBEdit preview to open new .md files by clicking 
>>> to links and REMAIN WITHIN THE BBEdit Preview, preferably in full screen 
>>> mode (and opening the .md files in the background)?.
>>> 
>> 
>> I regret it is not currently possible to work with Markdown documents in the 
>> manner you describe above.
>> 
>> In broad terms, when you preview a Markdown document, BBEdit will 
>> automatically generate an HTML temp file from that document and open the 
>> resulting file in the Preview window.
>> 
>> The Preview window is however 'not a browser' i.e. its sole purpose is to 
>> display the contents of the associated Markdown file (as rendered), and thus 
>> though any links you click within this window will be externally resolved, 
>> you cannot use the Preview window to browse through other documents, no 
>> matter how they're related.
>> 
>> That all said, the ability to work with 'sets' of associated Markdown files 
>> is a matter we have given some thought to over time, and if any of you folks 
>> have any _specific_ requests or suggestions[*] then you know the drill... ;-)
>> 
>> [*: emphasis intentional :-) ]
>> 
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Patrick Woolsey
>> ==
>> Bare Bones Software, Inc. 
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Re: Using BBEdit for markdown presentation?

2021-04-20 Thread Gerald Davenport
Apologies if I am coming in on this a little late and not understanding the
issue.

But could you not just get info on an md file and change the open with and
change all?

I did and now when I click on an md file, it does not open in bbedit it
opens is the app i changed it to.

_again_ apologize for jumping in when I probably should not.

- gerald



On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 8:54 AM Tibor Páli 
wrote:

> Dear Patrick,
>
> many hanks for clarification!
>
> Interestingly, the situation is the same with Devonthink on .md files. I
> can open an md. file and it gets rendered but clicking on a link to another
> .md file will be opened in BBEdit editor mode. (Some time ago, I could use
> DT as browser on rtf documents, but it is its internal doc format). The
> situation is same even with Obsidian whose document format is .md, but any
> time I activate and external .md file it gets opened with BBEdit :) .
> (Within the app I can of course browse over the internal .md files).
>
> So, my best bet right know for presentation/browsing over arbitrary
> interlinked markdown files (without living preview mode) is to try Marked 2
> or a similar program.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Tibor
>
> > On 2021. Apr 20., at 17:39, Patrick Woolsey 
> wrote:
> >
> > On 4/19/21 at 12:00 PM, palitiborlas...@gmail.com (Tibor Páli) wrote:
> >
> >> Is it possible to have the BBEdit preview to open new .md files by
> clicking to links and REMAIN WITHIN THE BBEdit Preview, preferably in full
> screen mode (and opening the .md files in the background)?.
> >>
> >
> > I regret it is not currently possible to work with Markdown documents in
> the manner you describe above.
> >
> > In broad terms, when you preview a Markdown document, BBEdit will
> automatically generate an HTML temp file from that document and open the
> resulting file in the Preview window.
> >
> > The Preview window is however 'not a browser' i.e. its sole purpose is
> to display the contents of the associated Markdown file (as rendered), and
> thus though any links you click within this window will be externally
> resolved, you cannot use the Preview window to browse through other
> documents, no matter how they're related.
> >
> > That all said, the ability to work with 'sets' of associated Markdown
> files is a matter we have given some thought to over time, and if any of
> you folks have any _specific_ requests or suggestions[*] then you know the
> drill... ;-)
> >
> > [*: emphasis intentional :-) ]
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Patrick Woolsey
> > ==
> > Bare Bones Software, Inc. 
>
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Re: Using BBEdit for markdown presentation?

2021-04-20 Thread Tibor Páli
Dear Patrick,

many hanks for clarification!

Interestingly, the situation is the same with Devonthink on .md files. I can 
open an md. file and it gets rendered but clicking on a link to another .md 
file will be opened in BBEdit editor mode. (Some time ago, I could use DT as 
browser on rtf documents, but it is its internal doc format). The situation is 
same even with Obsidian whose document format is .md, but any time I activate 
and external .md file it gets opened with BBEdit :) . (Within the app I can of 
course browse over the internal .md files).

So, my best bet right know for presentation/browsing over arbitrary interlinked 
markdown files (without living preview mode) is to try Marked 2 or a similar 
program.

Best regards,

Tibor

> On 2021. Apr 20., at 17:39, Patrick Woolsey  wrote:
> 
> On 4/19/21 at 12:00 PM, palitiborlas...@gmail.com (Tibor Páli) wrote:
> 
>> Is it possible to have the BBEdit preview to open new .md files by clicking 
>> to links and REMAIN WITHIN THE BBEdit Preview, preferably in full screen 
>> mode (and opening the .md files in the background)?.
>> 
> 
> I regret it is not currently possible to work with Markdown documents in the 
> manner you describe above.
> 
> In broad terms, when you preview a Markdown document, BBEdit will 
> automatically generate an HTML temp file from that document and open the 
> resulting file in the Preview window.
> 
> The Preview window is however 'not a browser' i.e. its sole purpose is to 
> display the contents of the associated Markdown file (as rendered), and thus 
> though any links you click within this window will be externally resolved, 
> you cannot use the Preview window to browse through other documents, no 
> matter how they're related.
> 
> That all said, the ability to work with 'sets' of associated Markdown files 
> is a matter we have given some thought to over time, and if any of you folks 
> have any _specific_ requests or suggestions[*] then you know the drill... ;-)
> 
> [*: emphasis intentional :-) ]
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Patrick Woolsey
> ==
> Bare Bones Software, Inc. 

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Re: Using BBEdit for markdown presentation?

2021-04-20 Thread Patrick Woolsey

On 4/19/21 at 12:00 PM, palitiborlas...@gmail.com (Tibor Páli) wrote:


Is it possible to have the BBEdit preview to open new .md files by clicking to 
links and REMAIN WITHIN THE BBEdit Preview, preferably in full screen mode (and 
opening the .md files in the background)?.



I regret it is not currently possible to work with Markdown 
documents in the manner you describe above.


In broad terms, when you preview a Markdown document, BBEdit 
will automatically generate an HTML temp file from that document 
and open the resulting file in the Preview window.


The Preview window is however 'not a browser' i.e. its sole 
purpose is to display the contents of the associated Markdown 
file (as rendered), and thus though any links you click within 
this window will be externally resolved, you cannot use the 
Preview window to browse through other documents, no matter how 
they're related.


That all said, the ability to work with 'sets' of associated 
Markdown files is a matter we have given some thought to over 
time, and if any of you folks have any _specific_ requests or 
suggestions[*] then you know the drill... ;-)


[*: emphasis intentional :-) ]


Regards

 Patrick Woolsey
==
Bare Bones Software, Inc. 

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Re: Using BBEdit for markdown presentation?

2021-04-20 Thread Darren Duncan

On 2021-04-19 9:00 a.m., Tibor Páli wrote:

Is it possible to have the BBEdit preview to open new .md files by clicking to 
links and REMAIN WITHIN THE BBEdit Preview, preferably in full screen mode (and 
opening the .md files in the background)?.


As someone who uses inter-linked collections of Markdown files as a primary 
documentation format now, I second the above request that it would be very 
helpful for clicking links to stay in the BBEdit preview window. -- Darren Duncan


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