Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3

2010-07-30 Thread nutmeg
Has anybody attempted to update Tidy and if so, does it support HTML5
yet?

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Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3

2010-07-21 Thread steveax
On Jul 20, 5:56 am, edac2 campb...@scdny.com wrote:
 I wasn't thinking of auto completion when I started this thread. Under
 Markup, there is a Format palette which has a bunch of CSS 2 format
 buttons which are really useful for writing a CSS style sheet. It
 would be great to add some buttons for rounded corners, drop shadows
 and other CSS 3 attributes

I use clippings for all those kind of things and then Clippings Menu -
 Insert Clipping

 Also under Markup, in the Utilities
 submenu, is Check Syntax. I use this all the time, but using the HTML
 5 doc type throws it off. It needs to be updated.

There are HTML5 validator (validator.nu) bookmarklets you can run from
the browser:

http://about.validator.nu/#alt-input

The url ones will of course not work for local files, but the DOM ones
will.

The HTML5 validator also has a web service. I'm thinking that
something could be cobbled together with validator.nu and some shell
scripts.

Quick and dirty curl example:

curl -F File=@/path/to/file/foo.html http://validator.nu/

The web service docs are here:

http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Validator.nu_Web_Service_Interface

There is also an example python script:

http://about.validator.nu/#alt-input

You can also grab the code and install locally (although a quick try
on my machine -- 10.6 -- failed on that)

 Finally, HTML 5
 needs to be added to the Document Type menu. Can any of this be done
 with a plug-in or extension, or does BBEdit need to be updated to add
 these capabilities?

Stationary is your friend here.

HTH,

-S

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Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3

2010-07-21 Thread Carlton


On Jul 20, 11:40 am, Steve Piercy steve.piercy@gmail.com wrote:

 As you know, no company has the resources to fulfill every customer
 request--even if it is for a very popular library like jQuery. jQuery
 is a library for a language, and Bare Bones tends to focus more on
 languages than their libraries.

For what it's worth, there's a complete set of BBEdit clippings for
jQuery version 1.4.2 (the latest) available at:

http://noumenal.co.uk/bbedit/jquery-clippings

There's all manner of clippings sets available at:

http://github.com/tedmasterweb/bbeditclippings

There are Django clippings at:

http://github.com/gregnewman/django-bbedit

There's a Rails toolkit at:

http://www.idolhands.com/ruby-on-rails/bbedit-on-rails/bbrails-toolkit
(although I don't know if there are clippings)

There are Zend Framework ctags at:

http://noumenal.co.uk/resources/downloads
(although these are a bit out of date -- ping me if you're actually
using them)

... And so on ... (Google helps.)

Either you can find all the resources you need or you can use those
you can find as examples. Generally people on the list will help when
you get stuck.

Hope that helps someone.

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Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3

2010-07-20 Thread stratboy
I already did it man. I a 10-years programmer, I know 'I first have to
read the manual'.


 1. Open 'User Manual' from 'Help' menu

Done

 2. Click in the search field

Done

 3. Type 'Completion Data' (without the quotes)

Done

 4. Click 'Completion Data' in the search results

Done

 5. Start reading

Done

 If you still have questions after that, then ask on this list
 for clarification.

Done! But didn't get answers.
Tuts guys, tuts!



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Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3

2010-07-20 Thread Charlie Garrison

Good morning,

On 20/07/10 at 12:47 AM -0700, stratboy em...@reghellin.com wrote:


If you still have questions after that, then ask on this list
for clarification.


Done! But didn't get answers.
Tuts guys, tuts!


And now that you've read that. Which part didn't you understand? 
That's why I said ask for clarification. Only you know what 
you're confused about, we can't help if we don't know what you 
need help with.



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Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3

2010-07-20 Thread Charlie Garrison

Good morning,

On 20/07/10 at 5:06 AM -0700, stratboy em...@reghellin.com wrote:


YEAH COME ON GUYS, MAKE SOME MORE NOISE!!! Maybe it'll be enough
to get to the right ears!


Yeah, cause we're trying to read your mind and continue to fail. 
As Dan Shoop would say:


But please, make us try and guess and use divination to 
determine what you're doing, it the summer months and goat 
entrails for augury really do well in the heat.


At least three people have tried to help, and all you've done is 
said wrong answer, try again. At some point you need to 
clarify what you're getting stuck on. Maybe tell us what you've 
tried and where it went wrong. I'm sure someone here can help 
clarify things.



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Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3

2010-07-19 Thread Charlie Garrison

Good morning,

On 17/07/10 at 6:25 AM -0700, stratboy em...@reghellin.com wrote:


I was quite confident we were talking about Completion Data
mechanics: maybe did I read wrong? Maybe you?


That's possible, but the reference the manual should have been a 
clue too. Try the following steps, I'd make a screen cast but my 
monitor is too dusty at present:


1. Open 'User Manual' from 'Help' menu
2. Click in the search field
3. Type 'Completion Data' (without the quotes)
4. Click 'Completion Data' in the search results
5. Start reading

If you still have questions after that, then ask on this list 
for clarification.



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Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3

2010-07-17 Thread LuKreme
On 16-Jul-2010, at 15:17, Bucky Junior wrote:
 
 Oh, I hope the wonderful crew doing support are still getting paid. They did 
 well by me when I wrote a couple of years back.

I've stopped, for the most part, writing to support with suggestions. More 
often then not 
they point out that my suggesstion has been in BBEdit since version 0.42 (the 
long-forgotten Apple ProDOS version that ran on the Apple //gs) or something.

But I was reasonably confident that HTML5 and CSS3 are not features I am 
overlooking :)

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Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3

2010-07-17 Thread stratboy
I was quite confident we were talking about Completion Data
mechanics: maybe did I read wrong? Maybe you?

On 16 Lug, 18:48, Kerri Hicks kerri.hi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:22 AM, stratboy em...@reghellin.com wrote:
  I think it's quite difficult, I don't wanna study to have such a
  thing. And no tutorial, no screencast..

 Here is the official Clippings tutorial!

 You can create a clipping by typing or pasting any desired text, or
 text and substitution placeholders, into a BBEdit document window and
 then choosing Save As Clipping from the Clippings menu. BBEdit will
 display a sheet in which you can name your clipping, and assign it to
 any existing or new clipping set.

 (OK, so I stole it from page 285 of the manual. The list of
 substitution placeholders is on page 289. A screencast for this
 somehow seems like overkill.)

 --Kerri

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Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3

2010-07-16 Thread stratboy
Yes, I think that BBEdit HTML tools in general REALLY need an heavy
upgrade, not only for html5/css3 issues.

Also, one thing that would really set BBEdit apart, would to finally
have full and up-to-date native autocomplation for the most important
js frameworks, jquery and Mootools first. It comes with some prototype
snippets but hey.. Prototype... Still Prototype? Really? Are you maybe
joking? :)

Bye!


On 15 Lug, 22:31, James Taylor webh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Agreed --

 Rich, Patrick.. what's the plan / time frame for html5/css3 markup  
 validation?

 Best, Jim

 On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 1:25 PM, edac2 campb...@scdny.com wrote:
  The Check Document Syntax utility goes nuts if the document type is
  HTML 5. It assumes an HTML 4.01 document type. Experimental as they
  may be, ≈ need to be added to
  BBEdit; they can always be updated later as the standards evolve.

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Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3

2010-07-16 Thread Rich Siegel

On Friday, July 16, 2010, stratboy em...@reghellin.com wrote:


Also, one thing that would really set BBEdit apart, would to finally
have full and up-to-date native autocomplation for the most important
js frameworks, jquery and Mootools first.


The Completion Data mechanics in 9.5 make it possible for you 
to do this yourself. The change notes should have enough detail 
to get you started.


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Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3

2010-07-16 Thread stratboy
I think it's quite difficult, I don't wanna study to have such a
thing. And no tutorial, no screencast..

http://barebones.com/products/bbedit/screencasts.html

I declares: We’re just getting started!
Well, some years ago..


 The Completion Data mechanics in 9.5 make it possible for you
 to do this yourself. The change notes should have enough detail
 to get you started.

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Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3

2010-07-16 Thread Kerri Hicks
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:22 AM, stratboy em...@reghellin.com wrote:
 I think it's quite difficult, I don't wanna study to have such a
 thing. And no tutorial, no screencast..


Here is the official Clippings tutorial!

You can create a clipping by typing or pasting any desired text, or
text and substitution placeholders, into a BBEdit document window and
then choosing Save As Clipping from the Clippings menu. BBEdit will
display a sheet in which you can name your clipping, and assign it to
any existing or new clipping set.

(OK, so I stole it from page 285 of the manual. The list of
substitution placeholders is on page 289. A screencast for this
somehow seems like overkill.)

--Kerri

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Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3

2010-07-16 Thread Bucky Junior

And a SPOTTED pony too. The brown ones I got are too drab!

Oh, I hope the wonderful crew doing support are still getting paid.  
They did well by me when I wrote a couple of years back.


Maybe I should write to them about spotted ponies?

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Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3

2010-07-15 Thread LuKreme
On 15-Jul-2010, at 11:25, edac2 wrote:
 
 The Check Document Syntax utility goes nuts if the document type is
 HTML 5. It assumes an HTML 4.01 document type. Experimental as they
 may be, HTML 5 and CSS 3 markup and validation need to be added to
 BBEdit; they can always be updated later as the standards evolve.

Yes, Please.

I'm doing a lot less HTML work in BBEdit right now because of the lack of 
HTML5/CSS.

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Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3

2010-07-15 Thread LuKreme
On 15-Jul-2010, at 13:03, LuKreme wrote:
 
 …lack of HTML5/CSS

ERm, CSS3 is what I typed. Some network daemon stole my 3, that must be the 
reason.

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Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3

2010-07-15 Thread James Taylor
Agreed --

Rich, Patrick.. what's the plan / time frame for html5/css3 markup  validation?

Best, Jim

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 1:25 PM, edac2 campb...@scdny.com wrote:
 The Check Document Syntax utility goes nuts if the document type is
 HTML 5. It assumes an HTML 4.01 document type. Experimental as they
 may be, ≈ need to be added to
 BBEdit; they can always be updated later as the standards evolve.

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