Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3
Has anybody attempted to update Tidy and if so, does it support HTML5 yet? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group.
Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3
On Jul 20, 5:56 am, edac2 campb...@scdny.com wrote: I wasn't thinking of auto completion when I started this thread. Under Markup, there is a Format palette which has a bunch of CSS 2 format buttons which are really useful for writing a CSS style sheet. It would be great to add some buttons for rounded corners, drop shadows and other CSS 3 attributes I use clippings for all those kind of things and then Clippings Menu - Insert Clipping Also under Markup, in the Utilities submenu, is Check Syntax. I use this all the time, but using the HTML 5 doc type throws it off. It needs to be updated. There are HTML5 validator (validator.nu) bookmarklets you can run from the browser: http://about.validator.nu/#alt-input The url ones will of course not work for local files, but the DOM ones will. The HTML5 validator also has a web service. I'm thinking that something could be cobbled together with validator.nu and some shell scripts. Quick and dirty curl example: curl -F File=@/path/to/file/foo.html http://validator.nu/ The web service docs are here: http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Validator.nu_Web_Service_Interface There is also an example python script: http://about.validator.nu/#alt-input You can also grab the code and install locally (although a quick try on my machine -- 10.6 -- failed on that) Finally, HTML 5 needs to be added to the Document Type menu. Can any of this be done with a plug-in or extension, or does BBEdit need to be updated to add these capabilities? Stationary is your friend here. HTH, -S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group.
Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3
On Jul 20, 11:40 am, Steve Piercy steve.piercy@gmail.com wrote: As you know, no company has the resources to fulfill every customer request--even if it is for a very popular library like jQuery. jQuery is a library for a language, and Bare Bones tends to focus more on languages than their libraries. For what it's worth, there's a complete set of BBEdit clippings for jQuery version 1.4.2 (the latest) available at: http://noumenal.co.uk/bbedit/jquery-clippings There's all manner of clippings sets available at: http://github.com/tedmasterweb/bbeditclippings There are Django clippings at: http://github.com/gregnewman/django-bbedit There's a Rails toolkit at: http://www.idolhands.com/ruby-on-rails/bbedit-on-rails/bbrails-toolkit (although I don't know if there are clippings) There are Zend Framework ctags at: http://noumenal.co.uk/resources/downloads (although these are a bit out of date -- ping me if you're actually using them) ... And so on ... (Google helps.) Either you can find all the resources you need or you can use those you can find as examples. Generally people on the list will help when you get stuck. Hope that helps someone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group.
Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3
I already did it man. I a 10-years programmer, I know 'I first have to read the manual'. 1. Open 'User Manual' from 'Help' menu Done 2. Click in the search field Done 3. Type 'Completion Data' (without the quotes) Done 4. Click 'Completion Data' in the search results Done 5. Start reading Done If you still have questions after that, then ask on this list for clarification. Done! But didn't get answers. Tuts guys, tuts! Charlie -- Ꮚ Charlie Garrison ♊ garri...@zeta.org.au O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail -www.asciiribbon.org 〠 http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group.
Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3
Good morning, On 20/07/10 at 12:47 AM -0700, stratboy em...@reghellin.com wrote: If you still have questions after that, then ask on this list for clarification. Done! But didn't get answers. Tuts guys, tuts! And now that you've read that. Which part didn't you understand? That's why I said ask for clarification. Only you know what you're confused about, we can't help if we don't know what you need help with. Charlie -- Ꮚ Charlie Garrison ♊ garri...@zeta.org.au O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org 〠 http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group.
Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3
Good morning, On 20/07/10 at 5:06 AM -0700, stratboy em...@reghellin.com wrote: YEAH COME ON GUYS, MAKE SOME MORE NOISE!!! Maybe it'll be enough to get to the right ears! Yeah, cause we're trying to read your mind and continue to fail. As Dan Shoop would say: But please, make us try and guess and use divination to determine what you're doing, it the summer months and goat entrails for augury really do well in the heat. At least three people have tried to help, and all you've done is said wrong answer, try again. At some point you need to clarify what you're getting stuck on. Maybe tell us what you've tried and where it went wrong. I'm sure someone here can help clarify things. Charlie -- Ꮚ Charlie Garrison ♊ garri...@zeta.org.au O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org 〠 http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group.
Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3
Good morning, On 17/07/10 at 6:25 AM -0700, stratboy em...@reghellin.com wrote: I was quite confident we were talking about Completion Data mechanics: maybe did I read wrong? Maybe you? That's possible, but the reference the manual should have been a clue too. Try the following steps, I'd make a screen cast but my monitor is too dusty at present: 1. Open 'User Manual' from 'Help' menu 2. Click in the search field 3. Type 'Completion Data' (without the quotes) 4. Click 'Completion Data' in the search results 5. Start reading If you still have questions after that, then ask on this list for clarification. Charlie -- Ꮚ Charlie Garrison ♊ garri...@zeta.org.au O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org 〠 http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group.
Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3
On 16-Jul-2010, at 15:17, Bucky Junior wrote: Oh, I hope the wonderful crew doing support are still getting paid. They did well by me when I wrote a couple of years back. I've stopped, for the most part, writing to support with suggestions. More often then not they point out that my suggesstion has been in BBEdit since version 0.42 (the long-forgotten Apple ProDOS version that ran on the Apple //gs) or something. But I was reasonably confident that HTML5 and CSS3 are not features I am overlooking :) -- 'The trouble with my friend here is that he doesn't know the difference between a postulate and a metaphor of human existence. Or a hole in the ground.' --Pyramids -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group.
Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3
I was quite confident we were talking about Completion Data mechanics: maybe did I read wrong? Maybe you? On 16 Lug, 18:48, Kerri Hicks kerri.hi...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:22 AM, stratboy em...@reghellin.com wrote: I think it's quite difficult, I don't wanna study to have such a thing. And no tutorial, no screencast.. Here is the official Clippings tutorial! You can create a clipping by typing or pasting any desired text, or text and substitution placeholders, into a BBEdit document window and then choosing Save As Clipping from the Clippings menu. BBEdit will display a sheet in which you can name your clipping, and assign it to any existing or new clipping set. (OK, so I stole it from page 285 of the manual. The list of substitution placeholders is on page 289. A screencast for this somehow seems like overkill.) --Kerri -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group.
Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3
Yes, I think that BBEdit HTML tools in general REALLY need an heavy upgrade, not only for html5/css3 issues. Also, one thing that would really set BBEdit apart, would to finally have full and up-to-date native autocomplation for the most important js frameworks, jquery and Mootools first. It comes with some prototype snippets but hey.. Prototype... Still Prototype? Really? Are you maybe joking? :) Bye! On 15 Lug, 22:31, James Taylor webh...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed -- Rich, Patrick.. what's the plan / time frame for html5/css3 markup validation? Best, Jim On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 1:25 PM, edac2 campb...@scdny.com wrote: The Check Document Syntax utility goes nuts if the document type is HTML 5. It assumes an HTML 4.01 document type. Experimental as they may be, ≈ need to be added to BBEdit; they can always be updated later as the standards evolve. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group.
Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3
On Friday, July 16, 2010, stratboy em...@reghellin.com wrote: Also, one thing that would really set BBEdit apart, would to finally have full and up-to-date native autocomplation for the most important js frameworks, jquery and Mootools first. The Completion Data mechanics in 9.5 make it possible for you to do this yourself. The change notes should have enough detail to get you started. R. -- Rich Siegel Bare Bones Software, Inc. sie...@barebones.com http://www.barebones.com/ Someday I'll look back on all this and laugh... until they sedate me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group.
Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3
I think it's quite difficult, I don't wanna study to have such a thing. And no tutorial, no screencast.. http://barebones.com/products/bbedit/screencasts.html I declares: We’re just getting started! Well, some years ago.. The Completion Data mechanics in 9.5 make it possible for you to do this yourself. The change notes should have enough detail to get you started. R. -- Rich Siegel Bare Bones Software, Inc. sie...@barebones.com http://www.barebones.com/ Someday I'll look back on all this and laugh... until they sedate me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group.
Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:22 AM, stratboy em...@reghellin.com wrote: I think it's quite difficult, I don't wanna study to have such a thing. And no tutorial, no screencast.. Here is the official Clippings tutorial! You can create a clipping by typing or pasting any desired text, or text and substitution placeholders, into a BBEdit document window and then choosing Save As Clipping from the Clippings menu. BBEdit will display a sheet in which you can name your clipping, and assign it to any existing or new clipping set. (OK, so I stole it from page 285 of the manual. The list of substitution placeholders is on page 289. A screencast for this somehow seems like overkill.) --Kerri -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group.
Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3
And a SPOTTED pony too. The brown ones I got are too drab! Oh, I hope the wonderful crew doing support are still getting paid. They did well by me when I wrote a couple of years back. Maybe I should write to them about spotted ponies? If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Bucky Junior -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group.
Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3
On 15-Jul-2010, at 11:25, edac2 wrote: The Check Document Syntax utility goes nuts if the document type is HTML 5. It assumes an HTML 4.01 document type. Experimental as they may be, HTML 5 and CSS 3 markup and validation need to be added to BBEdit; they can always be updated later as the standards evolve. Yes, Please. I'm doing a lot less HTML work in BBEdit right now because of the lack of HTML5/CSS. -- GRAMMAR IS NOT A TIME OF WASTE Bart chalkboard Ep. AABF10 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group.
Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3
On 15-Jul-2010, at 13:03, LuKreme wrote: …lack of HTML5/CSS ERm, CSS3 is what I typed. Some network daemon stole my 3, that must be the reason. -- Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group.
Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3
Agreed -- Rich, Patrick.. what's the plan / time frame for html5/css3 markup validation? Best, Jim On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 1:25 PM, edac2 campb...@scdny.com wrote: The Check Document Syntax utility goes nuts if the document type is HTML 5. It assumes an HTML 4.01 document type. Experimental as they may be, ≈ need to be added to BBEdit; they can always be updated later as the standards evolve. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group.