mherger wrote:
> > The Cache tree is explicitly for purgeable data so the OS could try
> to
> > free up space there, that would be expected behavior.
>
> And LMS is supposed to re-install plugins missing from it's
> InstalledPlugins folder.
>
Ah, yes, of course you are right. I thought that
bpa wrote:
>
> How does the Mac "know" the Cache directory is a cache directory - it
> cannot assume just by name ?
>
The Mac has a folder tree for Caches, it's this tree where LMS installs
the plugin data, not the application data ("Application Support") tree
where e.g. preferences and -
Actually I dont know but I do know it does all kinds of weird stuff
when running out of disk space.
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mherger wrote:
> > The problem is: it's not a very safe place to store stuff in because
> > every now and then the entire cache folder gets deleted due to (major)
> > OS updates, trouble shooting and what not.
>
> This never happened to me. Really. I do have one system I'm always on
> the
If that certbot automation only worked ...
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Well, maybe theres something in the SqueezeLite thread
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As I said: SqueezeLite has some options for this in the code.
I think its a command line option but it might even be a compile time
option, Daphile supports it in the SqueezeLite version it uses AFAIK.
Have a look at the SqueezeLite code for details, maybe the SqueezerLite
github page has a
I think there are some command line options for SqueezeLite
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Then you have enabled DoP in the DSDPlayer plugin. That's what I
initially did wrong, too
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Thanks, Michael, I will give it a try!
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Here and in the following posts there is more discussion of the issue
which apparently also applies to the "status" query.
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?101516-7-9-Problems-Bugs=807514=Aaltedio#post807514
Interestingly, this discussion is from almost exactly two years ago,
seems
No, I'm using "titles" withs "tags:Aaltedio".
According to the CLI spec "titles" supports the same tagged parameters
as songinfo.
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To elaborate:
iPeng here uses the "trackartist" if present, NOT the artist.
But in the cases shown above, the "songinfo" query either doesn't return
a trackartist or a wrong one (IIRC it returned the wrong one).
That's clearly a server bug.
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mherger wrote:
> > So I hope since this is a server bug it can be fixed.
>
> If all but one client app work correctly, then it's a server bug? Quite
> obviously iPeng is doing something differently.
>
> --
>
> Michael
The server doesn't work as specified in the CLI spec.
Sorry, this is
Ah, OK, I think this above is a DIFFERENT issue where songinfo returns
the albumartist as trackartist where it shouldn't .
IIRC we discussed this, too, and the problem might have been if the
albumartist is a selection criterion, too, but I'm not sure, would have
to investigate.
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The problem is that with some server versions a songinfo query will
return a random artist for the main "artist" (track artist) field.
Fror some reason that was not the case in the menus, only if you do a
plain CLI query.
IIRC you found the issue and fixed it in 7.9 but I'm not sure :)
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First: you can only have one subscription for the same player and the
same command/status (you can have several for different players). Your
subscription #3 overrides/unsubscribes #2.
I believe one reason for this is that in the past cometd unsubscribes
didn't work in Squeezebox Server so this
So this probably just uninstalls the Chromium engine?
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And no, DACs don't uncompress FLAC. And no, the processing on the player
side need not be higher, too. All myths.
Plus, you could just decode on the server if it were true.
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Bet. When do we do it?
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Sonic Orbiter is VortexBox, btw
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But remote library should still work if the main server is 7.9
And instead of browse library one could use bmf
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DJanGo wrote:
>
> Ahh i have plenty of Albums (manual tagged where one tracks has multiple
> genres) like the 2014 Wham! Last Christmas limited Edition. I feel real
> fine with the "old" behaviour
I'm not sure that's really "old". You've got the same thing with Artists
where you can also have
Oh, you mean all albums for a single Genre?
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Ah, I never noticed that's missing in the web UI.
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That's albums for a Genre (all albums containing at least one track from
a certain genre), sorted by artist.
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I doubt it.
I looked at this for iPeng and the problem is that the server can't sort
albums by genre.
There is an additional issue: there is no genre tag for albums, the
genre tag is applied per track. So if an album contains tracks with
several different genres - quite common if you use
Well, if you don't update your server there is no way to fix any bugs,
isn't it?
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mherger wrote:
> > Oops! No problem this morning album art displays for all tracks in the
> > playlist.
>
> I think TinyLMS can get a bit stressed on those requests. I got mine to
> reboot when I tried to reproduce your issue. Most likely it's a timeout
> problem. I've made a note about
mherger wrote:
> > Just a short input: could this feature be extended to other remote
> > non-LMS libraries like KODI or basically all UPnP libraries?
>
> UPnP browsing has been available "forever": check
> Settings/Advanced/Networking.
>
> --
>
> Michael
But there are no menus for it,
Welcome to the wonderful world of the UPnP-"standard"...
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So which of the Apps actually lets you control the Touch?
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Yes, we all understand what you can see. The question is: which App can
actually control the player. Play something, change volume, things like
that.
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The player is probably connected to MySqueezebox.com, that's why the
Logi App finds it there. Try to move it under "My Music" on the Touch.
To get radio menus in LMS you need to enter your MySb account
credentials in settings in the server's web interface
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Regarding switching from MySB to LMS I wrote "on the Touch", not in the
web interface. But if the player settings in the web interface show your
player information the your touch is actually connected to LMS, arme you
sure the Logi App is connected to the same MySB account?
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mherger wrote:
> >[15-11-26 14:49:56.6980] Slim::Utils::ImageResizer::sync_resize
> (141) Error resizing
> /Volumes/public/Media/Music/SXSW/SXSW_2005_Showcasing_Artists/Young_Heart_Attack-Misty_Rowe.mp3:
> Can't resize unknown type, magic: "\20JFIF\0\1\2"
>
> Do you know how you embedded
That's local artwork and thumbnails, the format iPeng registers for
creation during the scan (300x300_f)
I assume the github version will do, too, for the test?
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mherger wrote:
>
> I've added a check to dump a backtrace should this happen.
Of course your change did not only add a backtrace but also seem to
actually have fixed the issue for me - the server now immediately
returns (with no artwork, but at least it doesn't hang anymore).
It still logs
I'm having an issue where artwork loading (retrieving thumbnails) from
the server can sometimes stall. When that happens then for a minute or
so I don't get any artwork from the server anymore. It probably times
out then and that's when new artwork requests start to succeed again.
The log always
So you think changing the order of precedence could help?
Still I think it's a bug to not find the artwork for the track id. A bug
that only LMS 7.9 shows.
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mherger wrote:
>
> That should be "coverid" rather than "coverart", right? If so:
>
Actually no. It's "id" whenever "coverart=1".
I think "coverid" only got introduced with some recent server version
and is not backwards-compatible.
Shouldn't the two be the same?
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mherger wrote:
> Yes, it does so, because it doesn't find that cover ID in the database.
>
> This could happen if you were sending an outdated ID (stale cache
> somehow?) as part of the URL.
>
No cache. This is the big cover art which is requested straight from the
player status. Nothing gets
Here's iPeng's order of precedence for what to use for the artwork:
1. "coverart" field in the server status with "/music//cover".
I think that's what we are seeing here. iPeng uses the field without
interpreting it, just as it comes from the server (no numerical
conversion or something).
2. If
OK, thanks!
Now that explains why it hits so few users and why it's so well
reproducible for them.
I'll do a beta with the changed lookup order so that people who never
update the server get a fix, too.
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dcteal wrote:
> I ran the test that mherger described above. Attached is the server.log
> file.
>
Here it is... Two commas or dots in the track ID?
Code:
[
{
channel => "/c0080759/slim/playerstatus/00:04:20:05:78:f8",
data => {
can_seek => 1,
duration
mherger wrote:
>
> An interesting read. I'd uninstall IckStream and SongInfo, because they
> spill your log file with failure errors anyway. Then come back with a
> description of the problem you need help with.
>
Michael,
I find the end of the log file relevant and not spilled.
I might be
I remember we had this issue with the server not returning the unscaled
files but only the thumbnails a few times before but I don't remember
what the exact cause and fix was. I thought cleaning the artwork cache
but the OP seems to have done that.
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mherger wrote:
> > Because then you clutter your album list with multiple instances of an
> > album. Also, you might want an option to still easily play all. Which
> > the API would still have by simply omitting the CD number.
>
> Is this the main use-case: to be able to play a single disc out
Because then you clutter your album list with multiple instances of an
album. Also, you might want an option to still easily play all. Which
the API would still have by simply omitting the CD number.
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This is not super-urgent but would still make for a nice addition IMHO.
I made a change to iPeng that will make it show individual discs of
multi-disc albums. What this means is: if you have set your server to
group multi-disc albums together (if you don't, the discs are separate
albums) then
Triode's plugin works with all devices
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Michael, in the Logitech forum he wrote that smartphone Apps show the
menu, just the Touch doesn't
@DaveCochrane1 please give all information you gave there.
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Ah, and it works with the iPeng beta, apparently? I was wondering
whether that MySB-Switch still worked...
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I believe at least in the past iTunes would down convert ALAC to 16
bits, doesn't it? LMS should tell you in the file properties.
Oh, and I believe you have to turn off native support for ALC on the
Touch because that, too, might only support 16 Bit ALAC
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So this is for Radio/Touch, correct?
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Holiday season :) there's already another thread on this
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Umm... Sorry but I don't concur. this is not the 80s anymore, how the UX
of a system behaves must not be defined by its database design. You may
want to adapt the database design to make implementation of your
intended UX easier or even astilbe at all but in no cases do you do a
certain broken UX
You didn't but atrrocity just above you did :)
The problem is not that it's a huge issue when I see a wrong order - I
can just as well fix the tags.
The problem is when I _don't_ see it. Probably in a lot of cases.
The underlying issue is a severe problem with iTunes: it sometimes mixes
up tags
You also could, for example, have different rows for sorting and for the
actual display of information.
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The file naming doesn't help. My file names are all correct.
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Hm, I believe that's also how I switch players between servers in iPeng,
other Apps probably do the same, so it should stay available... Need to
find a way to test this.
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PasTim wrote:
If and when mysb.com disappears, there is an issue for Touch radio
users. If one is running tinyLMS off a USB stick or SD card (ie no main
LMS server) there seems to be no way of entering a radio URL. With
mysb.com one can enter a URL in a favourite there, then select and add
mherger wrote:
Am 28.02.15 um 15:41 schrieb pippin:
Is the My Apps menu going away? That would be an unnecessary hit to
a
lot of 3rd party plugins.
To many of my plugins rely on that menu option, too. No, it should stay.
There was an issue with the web UI after the first merge
woodster wrote:
Have tried ickstream, but this is an online service as well, that might
get shut down. It could be nice if the native apps e.g wimp could be run
from the local lms.
I have my local music, but can't avoid using online streaming, and need
to be sure to have a long term
Is the My Apps menu going away? That would be an unnecessary hit to a
lot of 3rd party plugins.
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Ah. Good.
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Cool, I know about a few people who will love to see this.
One question remaining: how is plugin installation handled? Are you
supposed to add all plugin repos manually?
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mherger wrote:
On a very related note: are you updating the metadata shown in the
playlist view as soon as a track is being played?
Yes. I did mention it in the iPeng thread but probably not in this one.
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mherger wrote:
What's the full query you're using?
The one for just main artist I use in playlists (the one that returns
a wrong artist) is
Code:
status 0 100 tags:uBjJKlaxdecN
The one I use for the Player status and NowPlaying screen
No, the second one. The first one is what I use but it returns wrong
results :)
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BTW: this post
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?51929-iPeng-support-threadp=807478viewfull=1#post807478
shows that the problem is not limited to the player status query but
also happens when requesting a track list (for an album).
The relevant query I use there is:
Code:
Another one...
There's a problem with artist roles in the player status. I often get
the composer instead of the track artist or the album artist in the main
artist field.
What I'm seeing is that whenever iPeng doesn't request _all_ artist
roles but just the main artist role (a in the tag list)
hm, lengthy discussion Maybe, but not with me. I don't really care a
lot _how_ it works as long as it's consistent.
I only store local items in favorites for testing and did a lot of that
when recently implementing the favorites editing for iPeng, that's how I
ran into it.
I feel handling of
Since the latest update I'm having an issue at least with incremental
scans, they never complete but eventually bail (at different points)
with such a log entry:
Code:
main::main (346) Error: Failed when running scan post-process:
[Carp::Clan::__ANON__():
OK, the error only seems to happen if you use the server while scanning
(e.g. browse the library or such). Looks like some locks go the wrong
way...
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And another edge case...
Favorites.
If you add stuff to favorites and this is not part of a certain library,
it will still be shown even with the library filter on, at least for
tracks and albums and intermediate levels for artists (didn't try
genres).
So, if
- there are tracks in favorites
That said: it's just as weird to search for a category, usually with a
full-text search you would expect a result-agnostic search returning all
kind of results and then maybe a way to filter what you get. No need for
27 different search boxes in a UI, one would be just fine...
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Philip Meyer wrote:
I'm not convinced I like it too much, TBH. A useful feature to have,
but not as the default for Albums search.
Sure _you_ are not convinced. But believe me, those other 99.9% of users
out there just cried crap for the last 6 years because Squeezebox did
anything other
Hm, interesting thing about Love. Does that mean the band Love is
never going to be found or did I misunderstand something?
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Kind of remember these kind of issues from the infamous The The bug in
iPeng 1.0.1 (iPeng 1.0 at the time did already contain special handling
for The The but 1.0.1 re-introduced a bug that crashed the App if you
had an album by The The and the App Store comments still have some
references to
Philip Meyer wrote:
I can't remember it being mentioned in the forum or bugzilla before.
It's been mentioned in the forums, it ranks under the top 10 feature
requests I get for iPeng and - most importantly - it's probably the #1
argument of people telling me what a crappy, outdated system
I think Michael will have to comment on the rules for sorting the
results. That's usually the complicated aspect of full text search,
getting the sorting right.
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Philip Meyer wrote:
In the example given for searching hurry love supremes such that Phil
Collins doesn't come up, what's the harm of searching for hurry
love...
For the third time: you are still arguing implementation details of
something that is in alpha state at best against a
Is this the full text search in 7.9?
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mherger wrote:
Yeah, I have seen that before... I think it depends (as so often with
encoding issues) on various factors which I haven't figured out yet...
Good luck with that.
We've had a horrible time with that recently with the ickStream plugin,
e.g. when trying to send player names
mherger wrote:
The problem here is the lack of standardization and localization.
Speech, spoken, Hörspiel, Hörbuch, etc. I've had them all. (and that's
one of the few reasons why I would re-tag some files: to reduce the
number of mostly redundant genres)
Yep. Same here. I didn't say
@marco Hint: don't edit your posts if you want Michael to see them!
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You can build much more flexible menus using CustomBrowse but most
plugins would not respect the filter, I end up with duplicate menus, not
all context menu items will work, search will not respect the
filters,...
Also, the CBR menus don't work as well in iPeng because they don't have
You mean libraries? Why not? I do and I'd definitely not be willing to
re-tag my 25K files for it.
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It covers 95% and I don't care about the rest.
It also works with stock LMS 7.9 now..
Actually I do have a license for Erland's plugins and that's what I've
been using for years but I'd like to replace them with 7.9 eventually
because that can more easily filter the whole library across all
For me it's genre.
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marcoc1712 wrote:
5. My suggestion was here just becouse I think is the more flexible and
less costing mods could be done in LMS to enable people use this great
functionality without the needs of complex UI or plugins, since every
logic will be defined and applied outside LMS.
It's OK,
marcoc1712 wrote:
users will accomplish this with the tagging applications they are used
to
Err... 99% of all users will use auto-tagging with iTunes or Windows and
have no idea how to change their tags.
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Thank you!!!
That's a dramatic change in performance!
BTW: not only for this particular case, all other Albums queries also
seem to be dramatically faster now, I think people will love this :)
The 17K vs. 26K is full vs. filtered library.
Settings-Information shows the size of the active library
mherger wrote:
Then you should probably write what you're talking about :-P. Because
you wrote:
Artists-All Albums is fast for me, too, it's Album Artists-All
Artists that is slow.
Umm, yep. That was wrong, sorry. But there definitely is no Album
Artists-All Artists menu (what would
mherger wrote:
Select a library on your player. Check the web UI: it's using the same
library. Check iPeng: using the same. Change in iPeng (while controlling
that player). Check other UIs again: all using the same library.
In my understanding that's per-player, not per controller.
mherger wrote:
Is this about right?
Yes.
Confirmed: I can't play Pippi Langstrumpf in Taka Tuka Land, but I can
play all its tracks from the kids' menu. Correct?
Again: yes.
Hmm... I'm not sure I fully understand the issue, can't reproduce it.
I've enabled the no kids music
One additional info on the latest comment (the one about it working/not
working in iPeng): you are aware (hey, you wrote this, so you should...)
that the library filter is per-client, so if you select a library view
in the web interface, iPeng still might use the whole, unfiltered
library until
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