On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 21:27:55 -0800
Marc Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 05:53:26PM -0600, Jeffrey Taylor wrote:
I am looking for GUI e-mail clients that work well with
Blackbox.
I was away from Linux for a while. I am back now on Blackbox.
Something hasn't changed
On 10 Dec, Jeffrey Taylor wrote:
I am looking for GUI e-mail clients that work well with Blackbox. I
have GTK installed, but I don't want to install the whole GNOME or KDE
shooting match.
Suggestions?
Jeffrey
you definately want to look at tkrat: http://www.tkrat.org
it took me a
Wow, I never meant to cause such a firestorm!
I never wanted to change the default behavior of BB, just wanted to see
if there were any alternatives.
How about this for a solution - kind of a combination of things that
have been mentioned by others ---
Is there a way to remove the default Exit
On Mon, 2001-12-10 at 21:20, Paul Kincaid wrote:
Is there a way to remove the default Exit from the Menu?
Yea, just remove the entry from your menu file.
Jamin W. Collins
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:08:56 -0500
Scott Moynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Linux needs nothing. Linux is a kernel.
Ok, I will be more specific: *If* it is a goal to have more people
use the OS based on the Linux kernel in their day to day business
and private computing, good GUI based software
Christian Dysthe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 21:27:55 -0800
Marc Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 05:53:26PM -0600, Jeffrey Taylor wrote:
I am looking for GUI e-mail clients that work well with
Blackbox.
I was away from Linux for a while. I
Along with the confirmation exit issue I have another question. Is it possible to set
up a way to exit using the keyboard? Is there any command in bbkeys that will do this
or any other way of going about it? Just thought I would ask
Eric Carlsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
So, 0.61.2 is almost ready to be released screaming into the world. If anyone
has a patch floating around that fixes some problem I would love to hear about
it. The recent open file descriptor bug shows how much the community has
depended on the memory of this list to find bugs.
* Christian Dysthe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Ok, I will be more specific: *If* it is a goal to have more people
use the OS based on the Linux kernel in their day to day business
and private computing, good GUI based software is/will be needed.
Whose goal? You claim that GUI software is
On Tue, 2001-12-11 at 10:34, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
So, 0.61.2 is almost ready to be released screaming into the world. If anyone
has a patch floating around that fixes some problem I would love to hear about
it. The recent open file descriptor bug shows how much the community has
Changes from 0.61.1 to 0.61.2:
- added the ja_JP nls directory
- general code cleanups
- blackbox-nls.hh is always generated even if --disable-nls is used.
This allows us to not have all of those hideous #ifdef NLS chunks.
Nothing to worry about, if you do not want NLS this
On 11-Dec-2001 Derek Cunningham wrote:
On Tue, Dec11,01 08:34, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
So, 0.61.2 is almost ready to be released screaming into the world. If
anyone
has a patch floating around that fixes some problem I would love to hear
about
it.
The recent open file descriptor
Eric Christian Carlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Along with the confirmation exit issue I have another question. Is it
possible to set up a way to exit using the keyboard? Is there any
command in bbkeys that will do this or any other way of going about
it? Just thought I would ask
On Tue, Dec11,01 09:01, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
Changes from 0.61.1 to 0.61.2:
- added the ja_JP nls directory
- general code cleanups
- blackbox-nls.hh is always generated even if --disable-nls is used.
This allows us to not have all of those hideous #ifdef NLS chunks.
What about the workspace change bugs? And has there been any devel on the
smart placement changes?
What workspace bugs?
placeWindow() is the smart placement code. What else was supposed to happen
there?
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:48:28 -0500
Scott Moynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whose goal? You claim that GUI software is needed, presumably by
someone, but offer no solutions to the most important problem: Who
is going to write it? I, for one, am not going to sacrifice my
time, and perhaps money,
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Eric Christian Carlsen wrote:
Along with the confirmation exit issue I have another question. Is it
possible to set up a way to exit using the keyboard?
CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE is the default keyboard shortcut to exit The X Window
system. Seems to work with every window
On Tue, Dec11,01 09:12, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
What about the workspace change bugs? And has there been any devel on the
smart placement changes?
What workspace bugs?
placeWindow() is the smart placement code. What else was supposed to happen
there?
Well... I've never
On Tue, 2001-12-11 at 11:30, Derek Cunningham wrote:
On Tue, Dec11,01 09:12, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
What workspace bugs?
placeWindow() is the smart placement code. What else was supposed to happen
there?
Well... I've never experienced it... and so in my mind it's more the fabled
Circa 2001-Dec-11 06:52:11 -0600 dixit Jamin W. Collins:
: I too am looking for a good mail client for my Linux systems. I've been
: using the following as my requirements list:
:
: - FULL RFC compliance
: - Complete IMAP4rv1 support
: - Complete POP3 support
: - Small memory footprint
: -
On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 10:25:47AM -0700, Tim Keating wrote:
CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE is the default keyboard shortcut to exit The X Window
system. Seems to work with every window manager I've used. No it doesn't
ask for confirmation.
It also does NOT save changes to workspace(s) ... i.e. new
On Tue, 2001-12-11 at 11:43, Jim Knoble wrote:
You must mean 'telnet'. The user interface isn't spectacular, but it's
great for command-line users:
telnet imaphost.example.com imap
The commands are standard and are listed in RFC-2060
(http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2060.html).
If you
There's a flaw in LinkedList also xOr talked with Raven on July
28th about this one Pasting from his e-mail
I've found a problem in LinkedList.cc:
check out line 164:
__llist_node *nnode = new __llist_node, *inode =
_first-getNext();
how this function works is, if 0 is
Subject: Re: E-mail clients
From: Jamin W. Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Blackbox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 11 Dec 2001 12:12:50 -0600
On Tue, 2001-12-11 at 11:43, Jim Knoble wrote:
You must mean 'telnet'. The user interface isn't spectacular, but it's
great for command-line users:
Christian Dysthe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:48:28 -0500
Scott Moynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
Every email client is
basically a collection of text areas all connected together to do
one job: create and read email.
Just to be a PITA:
And a lot more. At least
I've been using mutt and IMAP for well over a year now with
*no* problems. Note that you have to use a development version
(i.e. currently 1.3.23). It really isn't beta... rock solid.
- e
On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 09:07:26AM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
On Tue, 2001-12-11 at 08:39, Jan
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:46:50 -0800
From: Eric Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jamin W. Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Blackbox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: E-mail clients
I've been using mutt and IMAP for well over a year now with
*no* problems. Note that you have to use a development
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Dave Price wrote:
CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE is the default keyboard shortcut to exit The X Window
It also does NOT save changes to workspace(s) ... i.e. new ones added,
renamed, etc. :-(
Then this sounds like a bug. I am assuming that X would send a polite
signal to blackbox
For your info, the following was submitted to the NetBSD gnats.
Subject: pkg/14895: wm/blackbox doesn't compile with gcc 2.95.3
c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I..
-I/usr/obj/pkg/wm/blackbox/work.i386/.buildlink/include
-I/usr/pkg/share/x11-links/include -DSHAPE -DSLIT -DINTERLACE-DNLS
On Tue, 2001-12-11 at 14:08, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE is the default keyboard shortcut to exit The X Window
It also does NOT save changes to workspace(s) ... i.e. new ones added,
renamed, etc. :-(
Then this sounds like a bug. I am assuming that X would send a polite
On 11-Dec-2001 Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
For your info, the following was submitted to the NetBSD gnats.
Subject: pkg/14895: wm/blackbox doesn't compile with gcc 2.95.3
interesting, i compile it with g++ 3.0 which is even more strict than 2.95.
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
For your info, the following was submitted to the NetBSD gnats.
Subject: pkg/14895: wm/blackbox doesn't compile with gcc 2.95.3
interesting, i compile it with g++ 3.0 which is even more strict than 2.95.
This isue may be just related to
* Christian Dysthe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Because a lot of people like to have a GUI. They like to point and
click. Why shouldn't they get it?
Because they are not willing to do anything to get it. This is
terribly off-topic. There are any number of fora that will accept this
type of
Christian Dysthe wrote:
Because a lot of people like to have a GUI. They like to point and
click. Why shouldn't they get it? I do not understand this. I have
no problems with the fact that people like to use console based
software, I even use it myself (MC as my default file manager), but
I,
Jamin W. Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2001-12-11 at 14:08, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE is the default keyboard shortcut to exit The X Window
It also does NOT save changes to workspace(s) ... i.e. new ones added,
renamed, etc. :-(
Then this sounds like a
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Jan Schaumann wrote:
[snip]
Now, if blackbox receives any of SIGSEGV,SIGFPE, SIGINT or SIGTERM, it
calls this shtudonw-function, just as if exit had been selected from
the menu. It would therefore stand to reason that if you CTRL-ALT-BSPC
X, bb should receive a
Now, if blackbox receives any of SIGSEGV,SIGFPE, SIGINT or SIGTERM, it
calls this shtudonw-function, just as if exit had been selected from
the menu. It would therefore stand to reason that if you CTRL-ALT-BSPC
X, bb should receive a SIGTERM and save the current configuration.
If it
On 11-Dec-2001 Peter Szekszardi wrote:
Hi,
There are also some focus bugs I mentioned on the list a few weeks ago.
Is this new version only about bugfixes? Would you consider minor
functional enhancements? I would really love to see a new focusing
model, where the focus would really follow
When I am resizing a windows with alt+rightmousebutton, if I click the
left mouse button as I am doing it and drag some more I encounter some
wierd behaviour. Try it and see; it should be very obvious. The border
drawn for resizing doesn't dissappear, the window decides it wants to
be a different
On Tue, 2001-12-11 at 15:52, Chris Gilbreth wrote:
When I am resizing a windows with alt+rightmousebutton, if I click the
left mouse button as I am doing it and drag some more I encounter some
wierd behaviour. Try it and see; it should be very obvious. The border
drawn for resizing doesn't
On 11-Dec-2001 Chris Gilbreth wrote:
When I am resizing a windows with alt+rightmousebutton, if I click the
left mouse button as I am doing it and drag some more I encounter some
wierd behaviour. Try it and see; it should be very obvious. The border
drawn for resizing doesn't dissappear, the
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On Tuesday 11 December 2001 15:32, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
blackbox assumes that nls_types.h gives it a nls_ctad type. Apparently
under
netBSD this assumption is failing. At least that is my reading.
Does it compile correctly if ./configure
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On Monday 10 December 2001 21:24, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
I do not
intend to make bb the all singing and dancing easy to use wonder wm.
Hell yes to that. :)
- --
[scott] :: ein kalter Tod für den sprecher von Lügen
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Today at 1:25pm, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry said:
Now, if blackbox receives any of SIGSEGV,SIGFPE, SIGINT or SIGTERM, it
calls this shtudonw-function, just as if exit had been selected from
the menu. It would therefore stand to reason that if you CTRL-ALT-BSPC
X, bb should receive a SIGTERM
Today at 3:53pm, Jamin W. Collins said:
On Tue, 2001-12-11 at 15:52, Chris Gilbreth wrote:
When I am resizing a windows with alt+rightmousebutton, if I click the
left mouse button as I am doing it and drag some more I encounter some
wierd behaviour. Try it and see; it should be very
On 11-Dec-2001 Wilbert Berendsen wrote:
Today at 1:25pm, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry said:
Now, if blackbox receives any of SIGSEGV,SIGFPE, SIGINT or SIGTERM, it
calls this shtudonw-function, just as if exit had been selected from
the menu. It would therefore stand to reason that if you
On 11-Dec-2001 Henrik Kinnunen wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 13:52:11 -0800
Chris Gilbreth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I am resizing a windows with alt+rightmousebutton, if I click the
left mouse button as I am doing it and drag some more I encounter some
wierd behaviour. Try it and see; it
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 11-Dec-2001 Wilbert Berendsen wrote:
I believe the signal it sends is X is not here die now. Which bb can not
catch.
I think the signal is SIGPIPE (13, Broken pipe), Blackbox just terminates
without saving anything.
Not sure it
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On Tuesday 11 December 2001 14:07, Jan Schaumann wrote:
Christian Dysthe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In addition, mails are stored
in a standard forat, so that you can easily and happily grep through
your mail and perform searches that are far
possible bug in either bb, xlib or xfree 4 was the thread's name. Fun reading,
I had forgotten I was involved with it (-:
Yet another bug morel fixed and we never saw ..
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You could setup bbkeys to ExecCommand {xterm -e ~/bin/bbexit.pl} and
have a script ask for confirmation (See the email i just sent with a hackish
little perl script)
On Tuesday 11 December 2001 11:31, Eric Christian Carlsen wrote:
Along with the
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On Tuesday 11 December 2001 17:57, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
On 11-Dec-2001 Wilbert Berendsen wrote:
Today at 1:25pm, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry said:
Now, if blackbox receives any of SIGSEGV,SIGFPE, SIGINT or SIGTERM, it
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Is there support for ALT+Click on windows to bring them forward
regardless of Lock keys? (or is it considered a feature to not be
able to ALT+click while either NUM/CAPS lock are on?)
On Tuesday 11 December 2001 11:46, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
On
Is there a specific signal that could be sent to Blackbox and make
Blackbox do exactly the same thing as if a user had clicked [exit]
from within Blackbox ?
case SIGSEGV:
case SIGFPE:
scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For anyone that's interested... here's a perl script to show how easy it is
to exit-confirm. Call this script in a term window when you want to
exit, and it'll ask for a Y or an N (case insensitive) no is default,
so hitting enter will not kill blackbox)
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On Tuesday 11 December 2001 19:08, Jan Schaumann wrote:
scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Christian Dysthe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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On Tue, 4 Dec 2001, scott wrote:
On Tuesday 11 December 2001 19:08, Jan Schaumann wrote:
scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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On Tuesday 11 December 2001 14:07, Jan Schaumann wrote:
(Oh, like I can resist making the argument worse...)
Here's a quick Gtk+ program that confirms BB's exit. It sends signal 15
(SIGTERM), which BB catches and properly exits itself, most likely bringing
down X with it.
http://www.pointlessmovement.net/hacks/tbbexit.tar.gz
--gile
--
It's
* Tim Keating ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE is the default keyboard shortcut to exit The X Window
system. Seems to work with every window manager I've used. No it doesn't
ask for confirmation.
CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE will kill the X session, this might not be a
problem in
Mutt is what I have been using for years. I am writing a series of
articles on e-mail and need to have some GUI clients I can reccommend
or at least some experience with GUI clients.
Jeffrey
Quoting Marc Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 05:53:26PM -0600, Jeffrey Taylor wrote:
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