Re: Man page link site

2002-05-28 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Tue, 28 May 2002, Mr.X wrote: On Tue, 28 May 2002 18:38:04 -0400 Kyle Donaldson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These show off many of the common styles (what Blackbox calls it's themes)... Hmm, speaking as a layman, this would confuse the hell out of me. Why? What Blackbox calls it's

another bb screenshot

2002-03-17 Thread Kyle Donaldson
Here's another screenshot for youse: http://www.pointlessmovement.net/grafin/bb-ss-1.png or, if that one stops working, try http://www.gilex.net/grafin/bb-ss-1.png (I'm in the middle of a domain switch-over, and the server's a bit flakey. flakey...) --gile

Re: bbsnapshot idea for some intrepid programmer

2002-02-23 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Sat, 23 Feb 2002, Jan Schaumann wrote: cthulhain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: please change #!/bin/sh at the top of your script to #!/bin/bash because of the following: WINDOW_IDS=(`xlsclients -l | grep Window | sed s/Window // | sed s/://`) I'd rather see it adjusted to work with

Re: program launching method mismatch in blackbox and bbkeys

2002-02-05 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Roman Neuhauser wrote: blackbox spawns programs (from the root menu) via execl(), while bbkeys uses execve() (or vice versa, don't remember). this leads to, on both of my machines at least, terminals with different characteristics (see below). could you guys agree on a

Re: 0.62.1 released!

2002-01-30 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, xOr wrote: Blackbox 0.62.1 is released! Here's what the changelog reports: * added Chinese nls * support srcdir in all makefiles * multibyte support is only enabled when the locale actually needs it * cleaned up the ignore lock modifier code Yes! Finally, Blackbox is

Re: website, let's get the decision made

2002-01-26 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: 1) http://www.planetquake.com/lvl/blackbox 2) http://www.threadbox.net/blackbox 3) http://www.threadbox.net/blackbox/lightgfx.html 4) http://speed.seas.upenn.edu/~rarya/bb2/ 5) http://speed.seas.upenn.edu/~rarya/bb/index.html 6)

Re: newbies ..

2002-01-24 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On 25 Jan 2002, Luke Freeman wrote: SNIP Well, if you are looking purely at the configuration aspects (menu/style editors) of blackbox there is no real difference between bbconf and whiteBOX. I think as a menu editor and style editor they are pretty much evenly matched. bbconf does

Re: my take on toolbar v. slit

2002-01-23 Thread Kyle Donaldson
Here goes the restraints of the list members, now that I've opened my mouth... On 23 Jan 2002, Jamin W. Collins wrote: S N I P Not necessary the case. The date inserted in the slit could be configured to wrap to fit the slit width, thus not increasing the slit beyond a minimum. Something

Re: Moving Windows on 0.62.0

2002-01-20 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, Greg Gilbert wrote: I was having a problem moving windows with alt+click, and I did have my keyboard modified using xmodmap to remove the numlock button. I turned off the mapping and startup and all is well. I've attached the mappings I used. Greg Ah, but my

Re: bbkeys 0.8.4 and bbconf 1.4 released

2002-01-19 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On 19 Jan 2002, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote: blammo, etc. snip I'm also releasing bbconf 1.4 tonight. There are lots of enhancements, bug fixes, and neato thingeys in both releases and I'll try to explain a little below snippity - build fixes for FreeBSD--FreeBSD calls qt2's lib

Moving Windows on 0.62.0

2002-01-19 Thread Kyle Donaldson
I just installed 0.62.0 and after starting it I can't resize or move any windows! Anyone have an idea as to why this is happening? --gile

Re: Moving Windows on 0.62.0

2002-01-19 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Sat, 19 Jan 2002, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: On 19-Jan-2002 Kyle Donaldson wrote: I just installed 0.62.0 and after starting it I can't resize or move any windows! Anyone have an idea as to why this is happening? well, it works here.. Do you mean you can nove resize them

Re: Moving Windows on 0.62.0

2002-01-19 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Sat, 19 Jan 2002, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: snip bizarre, it works here and for many other people. No change has been made to the window code since pre4 which made it so numlock and friends did not affect blackbox. It actually stopped working on my box at pre3 (I had been using

Re: problems with compilation of the newest version

2002-01-11 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Marcin Cylke wrote: Hello I'm new with the Black Box.I downladed the packed archive with sources of black box 0.61.1 and have problems with its compilation.I run configure, and the make, as a usual user.It effects with this error messages: [snip] i.e. `friend class

Re: Threads BB Web - Reworked

2002-01-08 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, mattias/spikboll wrote: On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 18:02:50 +0100 ray@crytek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've put my HTML skills to the test and reworked Threads design. I've removed all images except the 'blackbox' and the 'blackbox title'. I've also removed most of the nested

Re: Blackbox Web Design

2002-01-07 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Thread wrote: Wacha guys think of this? http://www.threadbox.net/blackbox We can add some more cutie graphics if that's what people like, but I also know the blackbox crowd is a minimalistic one. (I know I am.) We'll see what people like. Beautiful. Loaded very fast

Re: Exiting Blackbox

2001-12-11 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Jan Schaumann wrote: [snip] Now, if blackbox receives any of SIGSEGV,SIGFPE, SIGINT or SIGTERM, it calls this shtudonw-function, just as if exit had been selected from the menu. It would therefore stand to reason that if you CTRL-ALT-BSPC X, bb should receive a

Re: Exiting Blackbox

2001-12-11 Thread Kyle Donaldson
(Oh, like I can resist making the argument worse...) Here's a quick Gtk+ program that confirms BB's exit. It sends signal 15 (SIGTERM), which BB catches and properly exits itself, most likely bringing down X with it. http://www.pointlessmovement.net/hacks/tbbexit.tar.gz --gile -- It's

Re: backspace problems in man pages, etc

2001-12-04 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Tue, 4 Dec 2001, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: [snip] I daren't mis-type something, because all I will see is a string of literal '^H's when I press backspace. [snip] To delete the character behind the cursor, you use the rubout or erase key (this is the backspace key). You may need

Re: Searching mail crashes Blackbox and X.

2001-11-27 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Christian Dysthe wrote: I have done some more testing and come up with something iteresting: It seems the crashes ONLY happens if no mail matches the search criteria. As long as an e-mail is found matching the criteria Blackbox won't crash. In other WM's you get a

Re: Focussed frame, white border

2001-11-16 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Glyn Millington wrote: Greetings - I've just downloaded the most marvellous theme (which shall be nameless, at least for now) EXCEPT that when I move the mouse over a window it acquires an ugly white rim. It spoils an otherwise nicly murky screen. Can anyone tell me

Re: bbconf

2001-11-10 Thread Kyle Donaldson
/* the old quoting was disgusting */ On Sat, 10 Nov 2001, Christian Dysthe wrote: On Sat, 10 Nov 2001 08:26:56 -0600: gino peregrini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have downloaded installed bbconf; however, when I try to open it, it crashes with a segmentation fault. If it was a binary

Re: bbconf

2001-11-10 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Sat, 10 Nov 2001, Christian Dysthe wrote: I guess I wasn't precise in my first mail. I do get bbconf to save most stuff, but not the Qt stuff: The BBConf Qt Widget Style. When I try to change that I get an error message saying it was not able to save to the file specified, and I have not

Re: Blackbox on Solaris

2001-10-30 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Neven Boric wrote: [snipp] I can't get bsetbg to work with images, it always returns 'test: argument expected' (or something similar, I'm at home right now). ... That's either a problem with the system test(1) command or the system sh(1). It looks as if it was written

Re: bbconf problems

2001-10-11 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Wed, 10 Oct 2001, Jan Schaumann wrote: Herman Tamas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Schaumann wrote: It should create the bloody directory if it doesn't exist... at least that's what i'd have done... No, if the default is not existing, it should kindly ask the user where

Re: bbconf problems

2001-10-10 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Wed, 10 Oct 2001, tp40 wrote: Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 17:22:50 -0400 (EDT) To: Blackbox Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: tp40 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: bbconf problems I've been trying to change the look of bbconf using the selector on the front page, but

Re: Themes

2001-10-08 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Mon, 8 Oct 2001, Josh Gates wrote: hey Im trying to edit some themes to look better with transparent terminals. Ive noticed that on most themes, there is a white/black border around the inside of the window frame. when its focused its white, and when its unfocused its black. This is

Re: blackbox site/faq

2001-10-06 Thread Kyle Donaldson
I could contact Brad Jeff regarding this idea, but i don't want to do it if you, guys are not with me. So if there are anybody who wants me to do this task, he/she should drop me a mail. When i get the critical mass of reactions (which is ~10 mail in this case i think), i will decide what

Re: bbconf 1.0 is released. BOOM

2001-09-16 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: That and it breaks the first rule of Unix: Do one thing and do it well. hate to break it to you but every gui ever written does that (-: I know, but I just felt like venting after the build took 25 bloody minutes, mainly because of the

Re: bbconf 1.0 make bails out.

2001-09-16 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Mark Hill wrote: Hi, before I start moaning, I want to say thanks to the makers for doing bbconf 1.0 :-) Okay, I'm trying to compile bbconf 1.0 from source on a slackware 8.0 system. ./configure finishes with no errors, but make always

Re: bbconf 1.0 is released. BOOM

2001-09-16 Thread Kyle Donaldson
be needed by anyone else but the developers. (Why does ./configure insist on checking for them? The generation has already been done, otherwise ./configure wouldn't exist!) -- Kyle Donaldson Movement Without Reason Our company is like Microsoft quality, a figment of your imagination

Re: The slit

2001-08-23 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Jan Schaumann wrote: Or is there a way to compile BB without the slit so that it is disabled altogether? ./configure --disable-slit (As you can't see the slit when nothing's in it, why would it need to be disabled?) --gile

Re: feature request...

2001-07-30 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, after playing in traffic, Jeff Raven yelped: Well, the menu parser is currently line-based and rather nasty... some easier solutions would be to either -- put the long command in a script, and just use the script as the command instead -- set up some X

Re: newbie: problem editing menu

2001-07-29 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Sun, 29 Jul 2001, after playing in traffic, nicolas delon yelped: I wrote a patch that expands the two forms of ~ expansion: - ~/ : a simple getenv(HOME) - ~jeff/ : a getpwname and when blackbox rewrites .blackboxrc it takes the '~' form. I have coded it with a class, so i have

Re: newbie: problem editing menu

2001-07-27 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, after playing in traffic, Jeff Raven yelped: On Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 09:11:05AM -0500, ??t ??h wrote: I am stumped. Every time I edit the session.Menu pointer in /home/scott/.blackboxrc to a menu file other than the default file /etc/X11/blackbox/blackbox-menu, I

Re: key navigateable menus

2001-07-27 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, after playing in traffic, s yelped: I know this has been hashed an rehashed on the list. But I thought of this today at work, let me know what you guys think of it: for the key navigation of the menus, how about enumerating every menu item, so that a user can press

Re: menu bugs (was: bug when moving submenu ?)

2001-07-25 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Mark Weinem wrote: [snippity] And if you engulf the menu not deep enough (so that the first entries of the menu are visible) it doesn't slide in totally. You will see the first entries of the menu permanently. Why doesn't it slide in totally, so that only

Re: Wheaton

2001-07-24 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, M Leary wrote: Hi! How are you? I send you this file in order to have your advice See you later. Thanks Hmm... not only do I get it a second time, but my mail program (Spruce 0.7.5) shows that there is a third part that is 1.05 GB long. Windows is so inherently

Re: Best idea yet for window cycling handling

2001-07-19 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, Ben Jansens wrote: Ok, I've given this some thought and talked this over with others, and I think this is the best idea we've come up with: Currently, when bbkeys fires the Next Window message, blackbox catches the message, and switches to the next window. The same

Re: Another new bbkeys event

2001-07-17 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, xOr wrote: While I'm on this huge maillist clogging spree.. :P One thing that I'd really really like to see, is the ability to bind a key, with bbkeys, to opening the applications menu and windows menu. This can't possibly be a hard one to do.. I'll probly stick my nose

Re: Another thanks for BlackBox, a question, and a menu conflaguration suggetion (was: Window Cycling)

2001-07-17 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, after beating me senseless, Gregory J. Barlow wrote: [snip] Because the styledir code does not recurse through subdirectories, something you wanted. I personally would prefer that menus remain simply flat text files so that I can move them easily between systems.

Re: Restart

2001-07-13 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Tim Keating wrote: [snip] What I'd like to do is switch to the graphical login (kdm, gdm, or xdm) and still have the ability to switch between single or dual head, for the obvious reason that DRI doesn't work in dual head mode, and I _HAVE_ to have DRI to play games. 8-)

Re: newbie: no root menu

2001-07-11 Thread Kyle Donaldson
Here's a slight patch to allow ~ to be used in .blackboxrc. It's only allowed on session.menuFile and session.styleFile, as those are the only ones I know of that need the path. After ~ has been expanded the first time, it is rewritten as the expanded version when Blackbox rewrites it's config

Re: Solving bbkeys -i problem!

2001-07-10 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Tue, 10 Jul 2001, Bartek Kostrzewa wrote: You must know that a program can only be iconified correctly if it initialises after the window manager, so to solve this, I've done following in my .xinitrc ($WMANAGER is a global variable of my distribution which defines the default wm for

Re: Blackbox: which features *you* want?

2001-06-13 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, after beating gile to a bloody pulp, Andy Kopciuch wrote: If people are so unhappy with the way things currently have been developed in regards to blackbox, and it's applications, here's a couple of things to think about: First the are not that many bb apps out there

Re: Blackbox development

2001-06-12 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Andy Kopciuch wrote: [snip] As for the newbies ease of use. IMO blackbox is very specialized WM, and not for a linux newbie. They would sit around on their hands for 2 hours trying to figure out how to put a shortcut on the desktop. I think bb caters to the

Re: Blackbox development

2001-06-12 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Andy Kopciuch wrote: [snip] The point was not to state bb's association with Linux, but to point out it's association with verteran computer users. (Oooh, responses! Yay!) Ummm... yeah I already knew that. That's why I said Begin being asshole, although there's no

Re: sh -c answers thanks!

2001-05-30 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Jeff Raven wrote: D) Provide two menu items, say [exec] and [cexec]; the first would just use sh, the second sh -c. rootCommand would still use sh -c. For the most part this would make things work like they used to before the exec code was changed.

Re: A patch (was: sh -c processes???)

2001-05-30 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2001, Kyle Donaldson wrote: [snip] Thanks for this ideas. (And sorry for the delayed reply.) Obeying quotes and escapes is a good idea, but I think expanding wildcards and the other features are superfluous (at least as a blackbox

Re: a simple theme generation script

2001-05-06 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Sun, 6 May 2001, after plotting his latest world takeover plan, Jason Kasper wrote: Holy CRAP!!! Somebody actually uses toolbox out there!?!?!? =:) Rock ON, BAYBEE!! =:) [snip] Scary, ain't it? But wait, there's more: not only do I use it, I added a small feature to it (frameWidth),

Re: a simple theme generation script

2001-05-05 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On 05 May 2001, Forrest English wrote: it's really simple, and needs some more work, or at least more included templates. but, i figure i make themes often enough that it might be useful. http://truffula.net/~forrest/bbtheme.shtml comments appriciated, even if they're really harsh. It

Re: Xserver question

2001-04-20 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, after completing his latest world takeover plan, Eric Hostetler wrote: I am trying to get started using Blackbox. I am fairly new to Linux. I configured and installed Blackbox but when i type in the Blackbox command it tells me: BaseDisplay::BaseDisplay: connection to X

Re: large fonts

2001-04-02 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Mon, 02 Apr 2001, Peter Peltonen wrote: On my RH7.0 laptop with 800x600 resolution I find the fonts too large. How can I make them smaller? I tried to edit the /etc/X11/fs/config file and change the default-point-size value to a smaller one, but that did not affect Blackbox in any way.

Re: bbkeys 0.3.6 released

2001-03-15 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Jason vanRijn Kasper wrote: So. It's been a while. =:) bbkeys 0.3.6 is hereby released into the wild, may God have mercy on us. Thanks to several patches and ideas sent in from my little user community (look, Ma, I've got users!!), bbkeys now sports several new

Re: Another Open Letter

2001-03-14 Thread Kyle Donaldson
Well, since it looks like no one actually cares what I have to say, and the ones that read it seem to just want to shoot me down, I just have to ask Why does any one here care? I mean, if it's that bad, we can deal with it when the time comes. (Thanks for insulting me after I tried to make a

Another Open Letter

2001-03-13 Thread Kyle Donaldson
# # I wrote this open letter to the Unix world, after reading everything that went # on over 'Open letter re Gnome'. Maybe you'll like it, maybe you won't, but just # read it before jumping to conclusions. # Why do we care so much about what other people use, or think about what we use? Take

Re: XNotes+ with blackbox ?

2001-03-04 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, after finishing his latest world takeover plan, Eli Segal wrote: Hi I'be got this utility XNonets+ and I want to put it in the slit for convinient reasons anybody know how to do it ? it opens in a regular window eli Look through the program's docs, there

Re: Blackbox + backgrounds?

2001-03-01 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Thu, 1 Mar 2001, after plotting his latest world takeover plan William Leese wrote: Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:55:21 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: William Leese [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Blackbox + backgrounds? The subject says it all really. Is there

Re: Latest stable version for Red Hat 6.2

2001-02-20 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, marco.fioretti wrote: ... I have used blackbox 0.61 rpm with RedHat 6.2 with no problems for a couple of months now. Install was a piece of cake. Only glitch ...(is not being able to use)... keystrokes to change between windows and workspaces. The programmers have

Re: How about those features?

2001-02-18 Thread Kyle Donaldson
..I'll probably be 'blugeoned to s*it by big f*cking rocks' for this... -- Maybe you people are forgetting something. Blackbox (and a lot of other stuff) is 'freely-distributable, open-source software' and anyone can do whatever they

Re: Re: Debian packaging

2001-01-30 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: make bbkeys do something useful when the key is clicked and the gui tool is not installed and I will gladly remove the qt depends. Ok, here's the diff to bbkeys.cc. It tries to launch the QT gui tool, and if it fails, launches an xterm with

Re: blackbox on NetBSD/macppc ?

2001-01-29 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:19:52 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: blackbox on NetBSD/macppc ? i have tried to set up blackbox on an iMac rev. running NetBSD 1.5 . while the config/compile part went just peachy, it

Re: 24 hour clock

2001-01-23 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Morten Brix Pedersen wrote: Hi, How can I change the clock from 12 hour clock, to a 24 hours clock? Edit ~/.blackboxrc Look for the line: session.screen0.strftimeFormat: %I:%M %p If you want to just display 24 hour time: session.screen0.strftimeFormat: %H:%M (Don't

Re: Click to focus functionality

2001-01-21 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Morten Brix Pedersen wrote: Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 03:23:54 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Morten Brix Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Click to focus functionality Hi, When 'Click to focus' is enabled, I can only focus a window by hitting the title or the

Re: Re: Click to focus functionality

2001-01-21 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Bill Beal wrote: Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 11:00:30 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bill Beal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Click to focus functionality Kyle Donaldson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something's wrong then, because when I tried 'Click to focus', I can

Re: bbkeys

2001-01-15 Thread Kyle Donaldson
On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Bill Beal wrote: [snip] YMMV, but I added the following lines to my .xinitrc after determining the proper keycodes with xev, perhaps you could try the same numbers: # Map extra fnc keys for bbkeys /usr/X11R6/bin/xmodmap -e "keycode 115 = F30" #left Windows button

Re: How initialize KDE2

2001-01-10 Thread Kyle Donaldson
Hi. Im wondering how to initialize KDE2 in BB. In KDE1 i just put kde in a terminal under BB and it loaded ok, but now that not happend. Thanks in advance. A_V Take a look at this if you haven't already: http://www.draknor.net/kbb It may have what you're looking for. I don't use