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2002-03-16 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 17-Mar-2002 Cstring wrote: Hello blackbox, I have noticed that at the blackbox.alug site that i cant get to any of the links to download the current version. I had to ftp to linux.com to get a version of BB and I was just wonder if you guys plan to fix this soon or do you

Re: bring me back to blackbox :)

2002-03-16 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 17-Mar-2002 Marc Wilson wrote: On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 05:30:54AM +0200, Ciprian wrote: I've applied it to 0.62.1 and used it with success. It goes great with my new Windows XP theme for BlackBox :) (yeah, I know, XP, what can I do, I like using BlackBox and I like the looks of XP).

Re: Snap to window

2002-03-14 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
While on the topic of the workspace code I'd like to ask Shaleh, or whoever that might have a clue, why there's two linked lists of windows? I was thinking maybe Workspace::getWindow(int) could be changed to return windows from the stacklistning instead, but I suppose I might be overseeing

Re: 'input' resource from X bug?

2002-03-12 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 12-Mar-2002 Mads Martin Jørgensen wrote: Hey together, A colleague of mine noticed that even though the X resource .input is set to false, blackbox still claims focus for the thing, even though it is supposed to not do so. /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/XLoad set XLoad.input: false

Re: compiling for hpux 11

2002-03-12 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 12-Mar-2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried the CVS (I think - I had never used CVS before). It died at the same spot. Please show me the output. CVs is easy. cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/blackboxwm login cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/blackboxwm -z3 \

Re: compiling for hpux 11

2002-03-12 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
BaseDisplay.hh: In method `const int BaseDisplay::hasShapeExtensions() const': BaseDisplay.hh:276: invalid use of type decl `struct BaseDisplay::shape' as expression BaseDisplay.hh:276: warning: returning reference to temporary BaseDisplay.hh:276: confused by earlier errors, bailing out

Re: App launching in the parent desktop

2002-03-12 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Think about what bblaunch does. (/me says this knowing shaleh hates bblaunch...) yeah, and bblaunch barely works. To implement this would mean adding a run queue. When blackbox starts an app it would add the command line to the queue with information about the state at that time. When a

Re: Snap to window

2002-03-11 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 11-Mar-2002 Mattias Eklöf wrote: I've written two different implementations of a snap-to-window behaviour, but right now I have a problem I don't quite know how to deal with. As it is now a window doesn't care about how the other windows are layered and will snap to the closest window,

Re: bbkeys won't open?

2002-03-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 10-Mar-2002 Paul Mackinney wrote: First, apologies is this isn't the right forum for bbkeys. I switched to blackbox about 2 months ago and have been in heaven. But very recently, when I try to configure bbkeys it bonks. Specifically, I click on the keyhole icon and a term? window opens

Re: Resizing problem

2002-03-09 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
what can i do ??? i'm a programmer .. so maybe if you dierect me to the part in the source i coukd try and figure out if you resize with the mouse the code path is: blackbox.cc:process_event() case motion notify which calls BlackboxWindow::motionNotifyEvent().

Re: French translation of man pages

2002-03-08 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 08-Mar-2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In the next 2 or 3 months most of the translation files will need to be done from scratch. A lot of the text is cruft and debug info. Count me in for the Romanian translation. Actually, I don't know

Re: blackbox frequent crashes

2002-03-08 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 08-Mar-2002 Paul Tremblay wrote: I am experiencing frequent crashes on blackbox. I am using nedit to execute scripts. This somehow causes the window manager to crash. I get this error message: Failed to open Catalogue, using default message BS

Re: blackbox frequent crashes

2002-03-08 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I'm not sure how to do gdb. (Probably I just type in the line as it is written!) However, I think I'll try downloading the newest version of blackbox first. gdb /path/to/blackbox /path/to/core you will then get a prompt. Type 'bt'. Save the output.

Re: blackbox library

2002-03-08 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 09-Mar-2002 Jason Willis wrote: Hello everyone, I thought I heard a short while back that a library (like a toolkit for creating a blackbox-like gui) was in the works. Is this is case? If so, how far down the road is this library going to be released.I was just wondering

Re: blackbox frequent crashes

2002-03-08 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 09-Mar-2002 Paul Tremblay wrote: On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 11:23:41AM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: gdb /path/to/blackbox /path/to/core you will then get a prompt. Type 'bt'. Save the output. I just looked at the man pages for gdb. It states (if I am not mistaken

Re: [patch] sloppy focus click anywhere to raise

2002-03-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
IIRC, this is correct. The current method of placement doesn't maintain a list of free areas. in cvs I keep a single rectangle which knows the actual available size of the screen versus the real screen's size. The availableArea is reduced by windows which declare a 'strut' as per the

Re: Placing of windows larger than display area?

2002-03-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 07-Mar-2002 Steven M. Castellotti wrote: Yep, you made sense. (c: Unfortunately, I can't do ALT+right-click or anything like that with a stylus, but maybe I can at least map META (alt) to a button, or do something along those lines. Steve, please file a bug (not a feature

Re: bbsmount and nvidia drivers

2002-03-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 07-Mar-2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An aquintance of mine had bbsmount working in a blackbox 0.61.0. 2.4.16 linux kernel and XFree 4.2.0 environment with the XFree nv driver for his Geforce2 MX. He attempted to install nvidia's kernel and GLX drivers from source and bbsmount started

sf.net website up

2002-03-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I uploaded the website today. Some of the links go nowhere (the docs section). Comments and content welcome. My next job is to find all of the shots people posted and create a screenshot page.

Re: French translation of man pages

2002-03-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 07-Mar-2002 Duret Bertrand wrote: This mail is directed to the french speakers of this mailing list. I've just finished the french translation of blackbox.1 and bsetroot.1. Before I send the files to Shaleh, I propose to those who are interested, to read the translation. I didn't

Re: window resizing larger than workspace

2002-03-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 08-Mar-2002 Marco Fonseca wrote: Hey, Is there a configuration item that tells blackbox *not* to limit the maximum size a window can grow. Currently I can make a window grow, at most, slightly larger than the screen. Theres times where its usefull to be able to set my window much

Re: [patch] sloppy focus click anywhere to raise

2002-03-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
But I'm trying to modify it to do what you describe, and I don't see where bb calculates the available area. Got a pointer to the appropriate code? In reading through the maximize_over_slit patch, it seems that bb has to calculate it on the fly each time. It is in the CVS code. look

Re: Domain Name

2002-03-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On another note, what progress has been made with making the blackbox website active? (ie. the design that was choosen)... I need to spend about 2 hours straightening it up. Proper text, links, etc.

Re: [patch] sloppy focus click anywhere to raise

2002-03-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Is CVS currently buildable? yep. Making all in src make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/blackbox/src' c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DSHAPE -DSLIT -DINTERLACE-DNLS -DTIMEDCACHE -DLOCALEPATH=\/usr/local/share/blackbox/nls\ -DDEFAULTMENU=\/usr/local/share/blackbox/menu\

Re: blackbox-0.62.1-custom_titlebar-fab.patch

2002-03-02 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 03-Mar-2002 Marc Wilson wrote: Ok, here's another one that shaleh says is never gonna make it into blackbox actually, I am on the fence on this one It may make it in

Re: blackbox-0.62.1-custom_titlebar-fab.patch

2002-03-02 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
You *are* bracket-happy though, you know ^_^ oh? You must be referring to this: if (test) { } else { } the else could safely lose the {} However I find the else then gets lots easily It is also my experience that every time i have a place where I can get away without braces

Re: Open Windows without decorations

2002-03-02 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 03-Mar-2002 -|- Hurgh -|- wrote: Hello, Just a simple question, how do u open windows with out decorations U can reply to my email address instead of filling the list with the answers and flames Thanks -|- Hurgh -|- PS - I did already check the archive, and i could not find my

Re: 64 bit blackbox crashing on style change

2002-03-01 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 01-Mar-2002 Bo Thorsen wrote: Hi all, I now have blackbox running and looking beautiful in my hammer simulator, but I have a problem I can set the style in blackboxrc, but if I try it on runtime blackbox immediately dumps core Not having gdb yet, I'm faced with an awful amount of

Re: A problem about close button

2002-03-01 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 01-Mar-2002 tang holmos wrote: I made a Xlib program which runs just fine on KDE,but when I run it on BlackBox ,I find there is no close button on the right top corner,so I can just kill it but not colse it! I think the problem must lie on the two different window managers and I

Re: bbsession script v0.02

2002-02-26 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Is that licensed under the GPL or some other Open Source friendly license? I'm sure there are a few that would prefer it. it is licensed under the free for commercial use only license.

Re: bbsession script v0.02

2002-02-26 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I think '/bin/sh' is a better choice also. On my system, 'ash' doesn't understand ~, so the last line of bbsession mv $TEMPFILE ~/.bbsession fails with No such file or directory yep '~' is a GNU ism (-: Use $HOME, it *SHOULD* be safe enough.

Re: bbsession script v0.02

2002-02-26 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 26-Feb-2002 Jan Schaumann wrote: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep '~' is a GNU ism (-: It is? So ~ is not functional in the original Bourne Shell? Get someone to try it on a Sun with a real /bin/sh. My experience has been it only worked under glibc based

Re: Feature request: bbkeys alternativ mappings

2002-02-25 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 25-Feb-2002 Ciprian Popovici wrote: OK, this is not directly related to blackbox but bbkeys but I don't know enough about their internals and it may just concern both. How about having bbkeys alternative mappings exchangeable on the run? Make a key combination that cycles through

Re: bbsnapshot idea for some intrepid programmer

2002-02-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Somehow, I'm not surprised. I've not been impressed with bash. It's ironic that they claim to aspire to ieee 1003.2 compliance, and claim that most posix scripts should run in bash without modification. I rarely have got bourne shell scripts to run correctly in bash without significant

Re: Session saving alternatives

2002-02-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 22-Feb-2002 Ben Neuman wrote: Hi, everybody. I've just recently gotten back into using Blackbox - I had wandered into the dark lands of pwm, ion, and windowmaker before eventually making it back here, and one thing I missed upon coming back to Blackbox was the ability to save sessions. Now

Re: Session saving alternatives

2002-02-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Okay, I grabbed bblaunch off of freshmeat and compiled it. I see that I can tell it to launch with certain attributes - sticky, no decor, maximized, etc, but what I'm really looking for is the ability to specify the position and sizes of a grid of programs. What you said gave me the

bbsnapshot idea for some intrepid programmer

2002-02-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
So, people keep asking for session management. I think I see a way to give them what they want yet keep blackbox simple. Implement a Slit app which would act kind of like bbpager or bbkeys. It just sits there listening for 'new window', 'dead window', etc. It should be a simple square with

Re: bblaunch

2002-02-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 22-Feb-2002 Andy Kopciuch wrote: Hi, With the recent session management/bblaunch discussion, I did some playing around. I can use bblaunch for say aterm in workspace 4 bblaunch -w 4 aterm That works fine, but when I use a KDE application, it fails bblaunch -w 4 konsole I

Re: bblaunch

2002-02-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 22-Feb-2002 Andy Kopciuch wrote: note it is a warning, not an error. What is actually happening is the bblaunch code is rather sloppy. The fix is easy. The reason it is complaining is because it tries to read its own window which does not have all of the hints set. The message is

Re: bbsnapshot idea for some intrepid programmer

2002-02-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 22-Feb-2002 Andy Kopciuch wrote: Someone with experience with the bbtools code should be able to write this in 2 or 3 days. A newbie to the code but not to coding should be able to knock it out in a week or so. Either bbpager or bbkeys has most of this written, so you could also start

Re: bbsnapshot idea for some intrepid programmer

2002-02-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 22-Feb-2002 Jeremy C. Reed wrote: On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: bbsnapshot has a loop kind of like this: ... on exit the program should write out the list as well. Or maybe a simple shell tool using xlsclients and xprop could do this? (But not runing all the time

Re: bbsnapshot idea for some intrepid programmer

2002-02-22 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 22-Feb-2002 Luke Freeman wrote: whilst we are on this track .. it would be handy to have a windowsish 'startup' feature, a global rootCommand if you will. I know about .xinitrc and all that but that still is not blackbox specific .. (plus .xinitrc doesnt fire for me -- redhat 7.1 :)

Re: some buggy bbkeys/blackbox focus stuff

2002-02-19 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
no for the bug, to reproduce do these steps: - go to an empty workspace - open a new window with bbkeys in a way that it doesn't get focused (with sloppy focus put mouse far away) - try to cycle to it with bbkeys while it is not focused, bbkeys doesn't select it. - open another

Re: Feature Request

2002-02-19 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I am defiantely interested in hearing of a case where the ~/ support does not work or somehow fails. Well, I'm about to go camping for the rest of the week so I can't confirm, but IIRC I can't use ~ for session.menuFile: in ~/.blackboxrc (0.62.1) (my boyfriend complained of the same

Re: Dockapps

2002-02-19 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 19-Feb-2002 Johan Ronström wrote: Hello. Not really a bb question but... I use dockapps in blackbox (not fluxbox). I have just written the program names in .xinitrc but my problem is that the dockapps never are in the same order and less in the order i wrote them to start in. Is

Re: Dockapps

2002-02-19 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 19-Feb-2002 M.G. Houtman wrote: There are ways as others have told you. I hope to add the ability to drag items around in the slit. This will let you adjust them at runtime. Window Maker also stores information about every app it controls. At this time I am not willing to add this type

Re: Feature Request

2002-02-18 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
ya go me... I read a post on another mailing list (a LUG) where a person was having a problem with the whol ~ thing... and just assumed it was still broken. In retrospec, they were using 61.1, and I hadn't updated my .blackboxrc file. *shrug* sorry... I am defiantely interested in

Re: for those of you feeling lucky

2002-02-18 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I'm just curious to see how development on blackbox is being managed. :) the way i'm looking at it is that i just have my own little play ground, and i don't have final say about what goes into blackbox and what doesn't. shaleh has done some pretty good stuff with the existing blackbox

Re: NetBSD

2002-02-15 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 14-Feb-2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just one other thing I found with a from scratch compile of blackbox on NetBSD: NetBSD, by default, does not come with the library paths entered, so when blackbox tries to use libSM.6, X11.6, Xext.6, etc, it chokes. /usr/lib is the only path for a full

Re: BSD

2002-02-14 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 14-Feb-2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might want to add to the INSTALL documentation that the BSDs (NetBSD, FreeBSD and OpenBSD) should use GNU make (installed as gmake on Net/FreeBSD), not BSD make, otherwise it will not compile everything successfully. Does automake add gnu make

Re: Whatever happenend to bsetbg in blackbox-0.62-1 (rectificati

2002-02-13 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
as for the tempfile thing, i believe this is something that shaleh has added, since my original script makes its own tempfiles manually. i prefer things this way so that's how the upcoming bsetbg will work, unless someone can give me a good reason why i should use an external program to

Re: [zefram@fysh.org: new SourceForge terms]

2002-02-13 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 13-Feb-2002 David Egan Evans wrote: In case there was concern over the licensing, the newer BSD license, which is essentially what blackbox uses, is Free by Stallman's definition, and copy-left compatible. This should qualify blackbox without a problem for savannah. I am willing to

Re: [zefram@fysh.org: new SourceForge terms]

2002-02-13 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
plug Then consider sunsite.dk. It's smaller and more personal while still providing the normal services (ftp/http/cvs/rsync/mailinglists) and daily backups. /plug Ok, how about a bug/feature request tracker and fast access from the US. A big reason I chose sf.net was the bug tracker.

Re: compress+nograb+unmapfix patch

2002-02-11 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Shaleh, is the version currently in CVS buildable? I couldn't get Brad's patch to apply cleanly to Window.cc and I don't speak enough C++ to do it by hand. you have to apply it from within the src/ dir not the top level dir like my patches usually are. That said, yes cvs builds and I

Re: Latest Release

2002-02-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
be displayed at (http://blackboxwm.sf.net), which currently has nothing. I have been horribly sick the last two days and finishing my contract with some employers earlier this week. The new site should be up within a few days.

Re: bbkeys/blackbox workspace change error

2002-02-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 10-Feb-2002 Es Bee Ex wrote: I can't remember if this is a known bug or not, but it is pretty annoying. Whenever I am working in a workspace with, say, Opera, and I use the bbpager style workspace switching to scroll to another workspace I will sometimes either be travelling to, or will

Re: Window update problem ..

2002-02-09 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 09-Feb-2002 Eli Segal wrote: Hi, I'm having a problem with blackbox when i run LyX or xterm with mc on it. it that when i resize the window or overlaping it with another window it content gets messy and it wont update until i iconize it when restore this is really bothers with LyX

Re: Window update problem ..

2002-02-09 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I would suspect the NV driver here and not blackbox. I just did an dselect based upgrade in a rxvt that was 30% covered by another rxvt and the timer was just as accurate while covered as when not. With lyx I can scroll through the entire document and watch it update, even with symbols

Re: autohide after time interval

2002-02-09 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 09-Feb-2002 Marco Fonseca wrote: Is it possible to have auto-hide hide after some specified interval instead of immediately? not currently. Should not be too difficult to add though.

Re: autohide after time interval

2002-02-09 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 10-Feb-2002 Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: On 09-Feb-2002 Marco Fonseca wrote: Is it possible to have auto-hide hide after some specified interval instead of immediately? not currently. Should not be too difficult to add though. On further examination it is even easier than I expected

Re: Fluxbox review

2002-02-08 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Now this is something I really don't get. I took a look at the KDE patch since I use a lot of KDE apps. It's very small and doesn't need any KDE libraries. Afaics there's absolutely no bloat in the patch, only a feature that some people find nice. I simply can't see why a patch like this

Re: Workspace 2

2002-02-08 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 08-Feb-2002 Henrik Kinnunen wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 10:50:33 -0700 (MST) Eric Christian Carlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering if the 'crash on change to workspace 2' bug has been fixed with the new release. I've experienced that a few times now and I was wondering if it's

Re: Fluxbox review

2002-02-08 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Now this is something I really don't get. I took a look at the KDE patch since I use a lot of KDE apps. It's very small and doesn't need any KDE libraries. Afaics there's absolutely no bloat in the patch, only a feature that some people find nice. I simply can't see why a patch like this

Re: Blackbox styles

2002-02-08 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 08-Feb-2002 scott wrote: Are there any plans to distribute more styles with upcoming releases of blackbox? It seems that since styles themselves are just a few dozen lines of text, it'd be a trivial size increase to the BB distrib tarball if a bunch of new styles were added. I was

Re: Blackbox styles

2002-02-08 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 08-Feb-2002 Tig wrote: On this note, a number of the best themes I've seen for BB come from m3g; http://blackbox.nlc.no/index.html In fact these are the only themes I use now pretty good styles, they may wind up in a release some day . Someone let our friend know blackbox lives

Re: bb and transient windows

2002-02-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
The next time you go somewhere with or without your laptop, you can get your sources easily and make changes and commit them, delete the sources locally and still have your changes the next time you want to work on them. as I said elsewhere, the assumption here is I have network access

Re: Fluxbox review

2002-02-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 07-Feb-2002 Marc Wilson wrote: Head on over to http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-02-06-010-20-RV-DT-SW and check out the fluxbox review. While I suppose fluxbox is nice, he really doesn't get it, does he? Wow, I had heard the tabs were ugly but jeez . (-: I

Re: Fluxbox review

2002-02-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
any chance that one of the more articulate blackbox users/developers would be able to write a rebuttal review? there are some good comments from bb users pointing out errors, but it'd be great if we could show all the new work going into bb and point out why we like it better than fluxbox

Re: Workspace 2

2002-02-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 07-Feb-2002 Eric Christian Carlsen wrote: Just wondering if the 'crash on change to workspace 2' bug has been fixed with the new release. I've experienced that a few times now and I was wondering if it's worth it to update. The only reason I haven't so far is that I always use the patch

Re: cvs on sf.net

2002-02-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 07-Feb-2002 David Terrell wrote: On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 11:02:41AM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: Vendor branches don't give you good commit history. but they do reflect my code and cvs usage. Are you planning on letting other people commit to the cvs tree on sf directly

Re: Blackbox/wmswallow bug

2002-02-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 07-Feb-2002 Philipp Reinecke wrote: Hello, I recently experienced a strange bug which I believe is Blackbox related. Starting xbiff, putting it in the slit with wmswallow and changing to another workspace _before_ it appears in the slit leaves its window decorations on the workspace it

Re: bblaunch

2002-02-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 07-Feb-2002 Johan Ronström wrote: I dont know if this is the right newsgroup but bblaunch is a bbtool... When I use BBLaunch to start apps in other workspaces and so, the log says 'XGetCommand can't allocate enough memory' and the program launches normally (in the current workspace).

Re: [BlackBox] I know I'm not supposed to like eyecandy, but...

2002-02-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 08-Feb-2002 Imad Hussain wrote: Hi! Alright, I know BlackBox isn't about frills and such, and I do agree with that philosophy. However, recently I've been enticed by the dark side -- KDE. I'm sure I could be saved if I could find I way to modify the window decorations to be similiar

Re: Workspace 2

2002-02-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
It occured for me after a few days of using 0.62.0. The problem with this 'bug' is that it seems almost completely random, and it /very/ difficult to reproduce consistently, but I have had it happen to me at least 10 times. I am sorry this cannot be of any more use. If it does

RE: [BlackBox] I know I'm not supposed to like eyecandy, but...

2002-02-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
(like fvwm or twm), then BlackBox is a very beautiful alternative. In fact, in a lot of ways, I prefer BlackBox because of its simplicity. There is little to distract you. that is exactly what I like about blackbox. I often use it on a 800x600 display. There is still room.

RE: bb and transient windows

2002-02-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 05-Feb-2002 Asviyan, Anatoly wrote: -Original Message- From: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 5:14 AM To: Anatoly Asviyan Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Fw: RE: bb and transient windows The team is working on getting NET WM

Re: 0.62.1 released!

2002-02-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 06-Feb-2002 cthulhain wrote: In the gothic chambers of the underworld on Wed 06 Feb 2002 at 14:47 -0500, Jamin W. Collins muttered darkly: What usual window border are you referring to? I've just check gkrellm in and out of the slit and it runs the same for me now (under 0.62.1) as it

Re: quake3/gaim in bb

2002-02-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 06-Feb-2002 xOr wrote: On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 02:44:58AM -0600, Anh Lai wrote: Does anyone have this problem: when playing quake3 fullscreen, if someone messages me in gaim, the gaim messege window appears overlayed in my game view. Nothing freezes, but it's annoying that i must exit

Re: quake3/gaim in bb

2002-02-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Not sure of the complete technical breakdown in terms of what it means to Blackbox, but in essence Fullscreen items take over the complete display (no decoration of any kind). I don't believe this requires DGA. If it would help, I could whip up a really minor fullscreen SDL application

Re: quake3/gaim in bb

2002-02-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 06-Feb-2002 Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Wed, 2002-02-06 at 15:17, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: On this topic (forgive me I am not a gamer and generally do not own cool enough hardware to run most games) what does 'fullscreen mode' mean? Is this something like DGA? I suspect I will have

Re: bb and transient windows

2002-02-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Sean, are you sure you want to fend off other people from any stage of the development of blackbox? Right now, today yes. Too many cooks are not what I need. xOr and I are sufficent for the current task. We have worked out what there is to do and just need to do it. The work is

RE: bb and transient windows

2002-02-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Um. I don't see why you would discourage help so quickly. At very least more people means more eyes and more ideas. Heck, even having people bug testing, trying to break things, can only help. I have always released pre releases whenever they would compile. This will continue.

an explanation of the upcoming weeks

2002-02-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
There has been some concerned raised and I want to discuss this on its own thread so no one misses it. In the upcoming weeks there is going to be a major change in the blackbox internals. Part of this is to remove the home brew linked list code and use the STL. Part of this is to allow for

Re: bb and transient windows

2002-02-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I also was put off by the rather harsh thanks, but NO thanks. Are you going to update the anonymous CVS-tree regularly? That would give other interested parties at least the possibility to view the progress and submit patches (yes, sometimes somebody else _does_ find something that you

Re: bb and transient windows

2002-02-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 06-Feb-2002 Roman Neuhauser wrote: Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 17:46:41 -0500 From: Jan Schaumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: BlackBox (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: bb and transient windows Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Um. I don't see why you would discourage help

Re: call for content

2002-02-05 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
2) use styles shipped with blackbox with minimal (preferably no) modification The shipped styles are *old*, and there are some much nicer ones these days. I'd think that we should be showing off the best of what we can do with the style capabilities. If we have to provide a pointer

Re: Fw: RE: bb and transient windows

2002-02-05 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 04-Feb-2002 Anatoly Asviyan wrote: On 03-Feb-2002 Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote It seems that bb does not respect WM_TRANSIENT_FOR property: dialogs can appear anywhere on screen and not put above their master windows. can you give an example of improper handling? I open Foo

Re: call for content

2002-02-05 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 05-Feb-2002 Marc Wilson wrote: On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 07:11:04PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: Well, unless we recreate bb.themes.org I would rather use the default styles. Even then, since we ship these styles, people should know what they get for free. Then let's replace

Re: call for content

2002-02-04 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
How would you like us to submit screenshots? Email them to you personally? Normally, I would point you to my website, but the server is trashed at the moment. please, link to a URL. That way everyone can see them and if my mail goes flaky we do not lose anything.

Re: bb and transient windows

2002-02-03 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 03-Feb-2002 Asviyan, Anatoly wrote: hi here some thing that can be considered bugs ;-) If I missed something or just was wrong plz fix me It seems that bb does not respect WM_TRANSIENT_FOR property: dialogs can appear anywhere on screen and not put above their master windows.

Re: bsetroot and pseudo transparent apps

2002-02-03 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 03-Feb-2002 Marc Wilson wrote: On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 02:12:31PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: A user sent me a patch so that bsetroot can now set the atom that pseudo transparent apps want set. This has been commited to the head of the cvs tree. I tried it, it works great

Re: focus bug with bbkeys cycle menu

2002-02-03 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 04-Feb-2002 Joey Morris wrote: I think I've discovered a focus bug that occurs when the mouse is over the bbkeys cycle menu. To reproduce, open at least two windows on a workspace. Position one so that the cycle menu overlaps it when it appears. Position another so that the cycle menu does

bsetroot and pseudo transparent apps

2002-02-02 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
A user sent me a patch so that bsetroot can now set the atom that pseudo transparent apps want set. This has been commited to the head of the cvs tree. Remember to do a cvs update -dAP to remove the historical cruft. There should be a 0.62.2 release in a week or so. Fun things in the works,

Re: 0.62.1 released!

2002-01-31 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 31-Jan-2002 Mads Martin Jørgensen wrote: * Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Jan 31. 2002 07:16]: The keybind code will likely appear in blackbox at some future date (around 4 - 6 months I think). Will that be as configurable as bbkeys, or just as it was in the older versions

Re: Blackbox refuses to launch on :0.1

2002-01-31 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 31-Jan-2002 Isaac Shaeffer wrote: (note: this is not a Xinerama question) I have a multihead setup, and blackbox takes both heads over. Normaly the way bb does this is awsome But their are times I only wish bb to take control of one head. More specificly i want to run another wm on :0.1.

website

2002-01-31 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
1) http://www.planetquake.com/lvl/blackbox is the current champ by various counts, I like it too. I will probably work with Thread and the author of #1 to integrate the features we like from both. Thanks everyone.

Re: 0.62.1 released!

2002-01-31 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 31-Jan-2002 Ola Ormset wrote: On Thu, 2002-01-31 at 16:49, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: I have to reasons for wanting key bindings back: a) people find it annoying to have to compile and install one more app just to get blackbox working the way they want But bbkeys comes in very handy

call for content

2002-01-31 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
As we move forward with the new website we need content. I know that scattered around the web are various FAQs, tutorials, etc. I would like to host them on the blackbox site. If you want to write a new one, that is great too. A translator how to for people adding or modifying the nls files

Re: 0.62.1 released!

2002-01-30 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 31-Jan-2002 Marc Wilson wrote: On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 01:38:59PM -0600, xOr wrote: Blackbox 0.62.1 is released! Here's what the changelog reports: * added Chinese nls * support srcdir in all makefiles * multibyte support is only enabled when the locale actually needs it * cleaned up

Re: couple questions

2002-01-29 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 29-Jan-2002 Anh Lai wrote: 1) Any way to make windows raise to the front when using ALT+TAB (cycling thru opened windows) hack bbkeys to call RaiseWindow as it cycles 2) Any way to change the actions of buttons (right and middle click) on the window borders ie: I would like to change

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