On Monday 21 January 2002 05:29, Gino Peregrini wrote:
I'd been using blackbox on Red Hat. I have changed to SuSE 7.3. I have bb
6.2 running well and have been over the menu.
I'm wondering how to set up bb to start with certain programs
running--bbpager and some dockapps, mostly. I know how
Hi,
i wonder if it is possible to get the name of the current
workspace. What i wont to do is:
- press Alt-(1-9) to switch to a workspace
- press F5 to open a new aterm
this already works fine.
Now i think there should be a little shell-script to get an
environment variable ($WORKSPACE) and do a
On 21-Jan-2002 Sascha Huedepohl wrote:
Hi,
i wonder if it is possible to get the name of the current
workspace. What i wont to do is:
- press Alt-(1-9) to switch to a workspace
- press F5 to open a new aterm
this already works fine.
Now i think there should be a little shell-script to
As we move forward in the code reorganization, I would like to remove some of
the precompiler cruft.
Which brings me to the following questions:
a) are there any OS/2 people out there using blackbox. I would like to remove
the OS/2 cruft if possible.
b) the slit is currently a compile time
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 02:09:28 -0800 (PST)
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
a) are there any OS/2 people out there using blackbox. I would like
to remove the OS/2 cruft if possible.
No, thanks.
b) the slit is currently a compile time option which I think is a
little silly.
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 02:09:28 -0800 (PST)
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
a) are there any OS/2 people out there using blackbox. I would like to remove
the OS/2 cruft if possible.
Never tried it. And from what I heard, I never want to.
Happy with Linux.
b) the slit is
In message: Re: get workspace name ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
on 21/01/2002 (Mon 01:05) Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
once we support the NET WM spec you can write a little program which
asks blackbox what is the number of the workspace currently, then ask
it for the name of that workspace. You could
On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 02:09:28AM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
As we move forward in the code reorganization, I would like to remove some of
the precompiler cruft.
Which brings me to the following questions:
a) are there any OS/2 people out there using blackbox. I would like to
Hello,
Isn't what you say below an assertion that
1) You want the toolbar to do what the slit does, because
2) There is no need for *both* toolbar *and* slit in BB,
meaning that for the end user they functionally overlap, and all it's
really needed is*ONE* only way to puth a
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
b) the slit is currently a compile time option which I think is a little silly.
How many of you actually compile with the slit turned off? How many of those
would care if the slit was still in the code, but only active if an app was
actually in it? In other
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
a) are there any OS/2 people out there using blackbox. I would like to remove
the OS/2 cruft if possible.
Never having used OS/2, I don't care either way, but it's an almost
philosphical question: should support for any Operating System be
On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 02:59:34PM +0100, Marco wrote:
Isn't what you say below an assertion that
1) You want the toolbar to do what the slit does, because
2) There is no need for *both* toolbar *and* slit in BB,
meaning that for the end user they functionally overlap, and
On Mon, 2002-01-21 at 10:41, Jan Schaumann wrote:
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
a) are there any OS/2 people out there using blackbox. I would like to remove
the OS/2 cruft if possible.
Never having used OS/2, I don't care either way, but it's an almost
philosphical
Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Toolbar I only use for the date's advanced capabilities (strftime)
over bbdate. If the Toolbar could be a compile-time option[1], I'd leave
it out and adjust bbdate to support strftime and construct my own
Toolbar-lookalike from
What has always surprised me with blackbox is that the 'toolbar' has
no functionality to speak of: you can switch workspaces, see the time
and see which window has the focus.
The toolbar is one of the things that makes blackbox unique. I like the very
minimal and resource friendly clock,
On 21-Jan-2002 Markus Ottenbacher wrote:
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
b) the slit is currently a compile time option which I think is a little
silly.
How many of you actually compile with the slit turned off? How many of
those
would care if the slit was still in the code, but only active
On 21-Jan-2002 Wilbert Berendsen wrote:
Hi,
I use blackbox with the nl_NL@euro encoding (which has default charset
iso-8859-15), and I have some font problems with the current bb releases
(including 0.62).
Many styles display a fixed font instead of lucidasans-10. Some display
the font
On Mon, Jan21,02 09:15, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
I am not found of the icon on toolbar idea. It turns the toolbar into more of a
panel and well, there are already plenty of those.
As for the battery load idea, I like it and have considered it know and then
before I became the blackbox
On 21-Jan-2002 Derek Cunningham wrote:
On Mon, Jan21,02 09:15, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
I am not found of the icon on toolbar idea. It turns the toolbar into more
of a
panel and well, there are already plenty of those.
As for the battery load idea, I like it and have considered it know
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The reason I want to remove the compile time option is because working around
all of the
#ifdef SLIT or BLAH
in the code is just annoying.
True. I actually do believe that the best way would be to remove those
and instead offer the
Jan Schaumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Um. I may be completely confused (quite possible--probability rather
high considering nobody else has thought of this), but isn't this
already possible by using the slit in a horizontal manner and docking
the mentioned apps? It seems to me that
On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 12:24:09 at 12:24:09PM -0500, Derek Cunningham wrote:
[snip]
a panel. Sure, it'd be one kickass panel because it's a bb panel, but why
doesn't someone just develop a sparate bbpanel that plays nicely with bb?
Then you could also have the option (run time!) to disable the
On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 13:33:26 at 01:33:26PM -0500, Jan Schaumann wrote:
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The reason I want to remove the compile time option is because working around
all of the
#ifdef SLIT or BLAH
in the code is just annoying.
True. I actually
On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 10:59:11 at 10:59:11AM -0500, Imad wrote:
keyboard again). With the power of bbkeys, I -- and others -- need
neither the toolbar *nor* the slit.
It depends from what ones want.
Icons on root window or panel are a poor substitute for keyboard
shortcuts: they don't really
* Robin Jury ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
For my vote,
a) clean the code. Of the three people in the world still using OS/2, I
doubt any are using blackbox.
Your ignorance is brilliant. I am certain that you probably are an
indirect user of OS/2 without even realising it.
--
Copyleft (c)
On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 09:19:07 at 09:19:07AM +1300, Robin Jury wrote:
b) I always use the slit. The toolbar however, I ignore. How about any
functionality that people want from the toolbar be put in the slit, and that
can be placed wherever? Does anybody feel any strong need to have both at
I wanted to place my vote for leaving the toolbar as compiled in by default. I
indirectly use it all of the time. What I mean by this is that when I have a
window maximized but not covering the toolbar it leaves me room on either side
of the toolbar to click on the screen and get the root menu.
No ignorance, I'm well aware of the uses of OS/2. However as a desktop
environment for users who have a choice on the matter (let alone loading
blackbox)it is not popular.
Don't take it so seriously, we are only talking about computers, not
something important.
cheers
Robin
-Original
I agree. The toolbar does serve a purpose--more than one actually. If
anything, it (or some other blackbox-created window) needs to be there
to catch KeyPress's if keyboard-navigable windows are going to be
included in blackbox proper.
And, I use the toolbar often for workspace-navigation,
On Mon, 2002-01-21 at 07:59, Marco wrote:
meaning that for the end user they functionally overlap, and all it's
really needed is*ONE* only way to puth a small, cpu light, unobtrusive
dashboard with aall the tools {time, link speed, cpu usage, new mail,
all the bbthings...} inside it?
On Mon, 2002-01-21 at 16:36, Mads Martin Jørgensen wrote:
In short, I'm for the removal of the Toolbar and functionality moved to
the Slit.
As long as one not would be stuck with anything unwanted in the slit.
Certainly not. I didn't intend to imply that anyone would be forced, to
have
On 21 Jan 2002, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote:
I agree. The toolbar does serve a purpose--more than one actually. If
anything, it (or some other blackbox-created window) needs to be there
to catch KeyPress's if keyboard-navigable windows are going to be
included in blackbox proper.
And,
On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 04:30:54PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
On Mon, 2002-01-21 at 14:19, Robin Jury wrote:
b) I always use the slit. The toolbar however, I ignore. How about any
functionality that people want from the toolbar be put in the slit, and that
can be placed wherever? Does
On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 04:30:54PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
On Mon, 2002-01-21 at 14:19, Robin Jury wrote:
b) I always use the slit. The toolbar however, I ignore. How about any
functionality that people want from the toolbar be put in the slit, and that
can be placed wherever? Does
Let's put the toolbar in the slit and the slit in the toolbar, so we can
be cool and have the first doubly-recursive FEATURE, as opposed to the lame,
traditional acronyms. Yah?
On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 12:53:47AM +0100, Alexander Volovics wrote:
On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 04:30:54PM -0600, Jamin W.
I can hear the masses screaming, *ra*, *rah*
Anyway.
I have some code to add Xinerama support to Blackbox... (still waiting
for the cheering to die down). For those of you who don't know what
Xinerama is it allows multiple monitors to be used as a single monitor.
The problem is things
Me too! I say keep the toolbar. I haven't been using bb very long, but
I find that it helps me keep track of what's going on in all my
workspaces. I enjoy being able to effortlessly and quickly flip between
10 different workspaces with apps open and ready to go. I leave it
always on top
On Mon, 2002-01-21 at 21:13, Jason Chu wrote:
I have some code to add Xinerama support to Blackbox... (still waiting
for the cheering to die down). For those of you who don't know what
Xinerama is it allows multiple monitors to be used as a single monitor.
The problem is things like
On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 10:15:27PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
I too use Xinerama in Blackbox, and have some difficulty understanding
the frequently voiced viewpoint that Blackbox's Xinerama support is
broken in some way. There is nothing broken concerning Blackbox's
current Xinerama
It's not Xinerama support per-se, it's more like Xinerama awareness.
I can understand your concerns with adding artifical boundaries in
Blackbox but there is a problem when Blackbox decides to pop up a window
in a part of my screen that doesn't exist (it can do that if the
situation is right: I
On 21 Jan 2002 21:44:52 -0800
Jason Chu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's not Xinerama support per-se, it's more like Xinerama awareness.
I can understand your concerns with adding artifical boundaries in
Blackbox but there is a problem when Blackbox decides to pop up a
window in a part of my
On Monday 21 January 2002 15:44, it is widely held that Jason 'vanRijn'
Kasper wrote:
And, I use the toolbar often for workspace-navigation, etc.
One thing that could be added to the toolbar would be that if you click on
the Workspace name a list of all the Workspaces appears, so I don't have
On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 10:41:33PM -0500, Nexist Xenda'ths wrote:
On Monday 21 January 2002 15:44, it is widely held that Jason 'vanRijn'
Kasper wrote:
And, I use the toolbar often for workspace-navigation, etc.
One thing that could be added to the toolbar would be that if you click on
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