Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-25 Thread Armin K.
On 04/25/2014 04:13 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 08:02:58PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: Thanks for the pointer (I have not built systemd at the moment, still trying to sort out enough details for me to have a chance of getting the whole

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:09:26AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 03:19:45PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Last night I was trying to figure out how to set the dmesg log level in systemd. It turns out that it can be done with sysctl and set:

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:09:26AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 03:19:45PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Last night I was trying to figure out how to set the dmesg log level in systemd. It turns out that it can be done with sysctl and

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 08:02:58PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: Thanks for the pointer (I have not built systemd at the moment, still trying to sort out enough details for me to have a chance of getting the whole thing working). But your use of sysctl looks

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 08:02:58PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: Thanks for the pointer (I have not built systemd at the moment, still trying to sort out enough details for me to have a chance of getting the whole thing working). But your use of sysctl

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-22 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 03:19:45PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Last night I was trying to figure out how to set the dmesg log level in systemd. It turns out that it can be done with sysctl and set: kernel.printk = 4 4 1 7 where the numbers are console_loglevel, default_message_loglevel,

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 03:19:45PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Last night I was trying to figure out how to set the dmesg log level in systemd. It turns out that it can be done with sysctl and set: kernel.printk = 4 4 1 7 where the numbers are console_loglevel,

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-21 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 20/04/2014 23:26, Ken Moffat a écrit : I've no idea what that refers to, but it doesn't matter. I know that (at least) you and Pierre use jhalfs, and for me that is unusable (/scratch is an nfs mount on/from my server, I _really_ do not want to try to build there - by the same token, I

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: Le 20/04/2014 23:26, Ken Moffat a écrit : I've no idea what that refers to, but it doesn't matter. I know that (at least) you and Pierre use jhalfs, and for me that is unusable (/scratch is an nfs mount on/from my server, I _really_ do not want to try to build

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-21 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 21/04/2014 20:49, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : Pierre Labastie wrote: Le 20/04/2014 23:26, Ken Moffat a écrit : I've no idea what that refers to, but it doesn't matter. I know that (at least) you and Pierre use jhalfs, and for me that is unusable (/scratch is an nfs mount on/from my server,

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-21 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 03:28:01PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Pierre Labastie wrote: Le 21/04/2014 20:49, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : Pierre Labastie wrote: Le 20/04/2014 23:26, Ken Moffat a écrit : For convenience I also have scripts to mount and unmount virtual file systems and to clean up

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: There is also a deeper difference - jhalfs was originally a tool for builders. As an editor, my preference is to look at a new package version on a completed system [ normally, just a DESTDIR ], see what options I want to use [ e.g. omit static libs even in LFS, unless

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
BLFS Trac wrote: Comment (by ken@…): At the moment I'm still trying to absorb the systemd changes in LFS - my own scripts now build a working LFS with eudev and _current_ LFS bootscripts, and I'm fairly confident that the systemv-on-systemd build will work when I test it. But I'm

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 03:19:45PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: BLFS Trac wrote: Comment (by ken@…): At the moment I'm still trying to absorb the systemd changes in LFS - my own scripts now build a working LFS with eudev and _current_ LFS bootscripts, and I'm fairly confident that

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-20 Thread Fernando de Oliveira
Em 20-04-2014 18:26, Ken Moffat escreveu: On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 03:19:45PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: BLFS Trac wrote: My objective is to allow users that do not want to consider or even try systemd to continue to do what they are already doing. And you appear to be achieving that. I

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 03:19:45PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: My point was that _many_ people who build LFS-svn will either copy and paste, or will already have their own scripts. As you said (paraphrasing), this is a major change - those of us with our own scripts will

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 05:19:22PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: Really, the only thing that's different through the end of Chapter 6 is adding new packages. Skipping systemd and adding eudev is all that is needed to do a straight traditional build (with a few packages from

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 05:19:22PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: Really, the only thing that's different through the end of Chapter 6 is adding new packages. Skipping systemd and adding eudev is all that is needed to do a straight traditional build (with a

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 06:00:51PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 05:19:22PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: However there is a method to their madness and LFSers should be able to pick it up relatively quickly. Don't get me started on what that

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 06:00:51PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 05:19:22PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: However there is a method to their madness and LFSers should be able to pick it up relatively quickly. Don't get me started