Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-25 Thread Armin K.
On 04/25/2014 04:13 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 08:02:58PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >>> Ken Moffat wrote: >>> Thanks for the pointer (I have not built systemd at the moment, still trying to sort out enough details for me to have a chance of >>

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 08:02:58PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Ken Moffat wrote: >> >>>Thanks for the pointer (I have not built systemd at the moment, >>> still trying to sort out enough details for me to have a chance of >>> getting the whole thing working). But your use

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 08:02:58PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > > Thanks for the pointer (I have not built systemd at the moment, > > still trying to sort out enough details for me to have a chance of > > getting the whole thing working). But your use of sysctl looks > > un

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:09:26AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Ken Moffat wrote: >>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 03:19:45PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Last night I was trying to figure out how to set the dmesg log level in systemd. It turns out that it can be done wi

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:09:26AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 03:19:45PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> > >> Last night I was trying to figure out how to set the dmesg log level in > >> systemd. It turns out that it can be done with sysctl and set: >

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 03:19:45PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> >> Last night I was trying to figure out how to set the dmesg log level in >> systemd. It turns out that it can be done with sysctl and set: >> >> kernel.printk = 4 4 1 7 >> >> where the numbers are console_logleve

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-22 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 03:19:45PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > Last night I was trying to figure out how to set the dmesg log level in > systemd. It turns out that it can be done with sysctl and set: > > kernel.printk = 4 4 1 7 > > where the numbers are console_loglevel, default_message_logl

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > There is also a deeper difference - jhalfs was originally a tool for > builders. As an editor, my preference is to look at a new package > version on a completed system [ normally, just a DESTDIR ], see what > options I want to use [ e.g. omit static libs even in LFS, unless

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-21 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 03:28:01PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Pierre Labastie wrote: > > Le 21/04/2014 20:49, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : > >> Pierre Labastie wrote: > >>> Le 20/04/2014 23:26, Ken Moffat a écrit : > > >> For convenience I also have scripts to mount and unmount virtual file > >> systems

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: > Le 21/04/2014 20:49, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : >> Pierre Labastie wrote: >>> Le 20/04/2014 23:26, Ken Moffat a écrit : >> For convenience I also have scripts to mount and unmount virtual file >> systems and to clean up $LFS prior to the start of a new build. I also >> have an

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-21 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 21/04/2014 20:49, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : > Pierre Labastie wrote: >> Le 20/04/2014 23:26, Ken Moffat a écrit : >>> >>> >>> I've no idea what that refers to, but it doesn't matter. I know >>> that (at least) you and Pierre use jhalfs, and for me that is >>> unusable (/scratch is an nfs mount on

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: > Le 20/04/2014 23:26, Ken Moffat a écrit : >> >> >> I've no idea what that refers to, but it doesn't matter. I know >> that (at least) you and Pierre use jhalfs, and for me that is >> unusable (/scratch is an nfs mount on/from my server, I _really_ do >> not want to try t

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-21 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 20/04/2014 23:26, Ken Moffat a écrit : > > > I've no idea what that refers to, but it doesn't matter. I know > that (at least) you and Pierre use jhalfs, and for me that is > unusable (/scratch is an nfs mount on/from my server, I _really_ do > not want to try to build there - by the same tok

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 06:00:51PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Ken Moffat wrote: >>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 05:19:22PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: However there is a method to their madness and LFSers should be able to pick it up relatively quickly. >>>Do

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 06:00:51PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 05:19:22PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> However there is a method to their madness and > >> LFSers should be able to pick it up relatively quickly. > >> > > Don't get me started on w

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 05:19:22PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Ken Moffat wrote: >> >> Really, the only thing that's different through the end of Chapter 6 is >> adding new packages. Skipping systemd and adding eudev is all that is >> needed to do a straight traditional build

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 05:19:22PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > Really, the only thing that's different through the end of Chapter 6 is > adding new packages. Skipping systemd and adding eudev is all that is > needed to do a straight traditional build (with a few packages f

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 03:19:45PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > My point was that _many_ people who build > LFS-svn will either copy and paste, or will already have their own > scripts. As you said (paraphrasing), this is a major change - those > of us with our own scripts will

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-20 Thread Fernando de Oliveira
Em 20-04-2014 18:26, Ken Moffat escreveu: > On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 03:19:45PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> BLFS Trac wrote: >> My objective is to allow users that do not want to consider or even try >> systemd to continue to do what they are already doing. >> > > And you appear to be achieving

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 03:19:45PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > BLFS Trac wrote: > > > Comment (by ken@…): > > > At the moment I'm still trying to absorb the systemd changes in LFS - my > > own scripts now build a working LFS with eudev and _current_ LFS > > bootscripts, and I'm fairly confi

Re: [blfs-dev] #4977: D-Bus-1.8.0: messagebus group and user already exist

2014-04-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
BLFS Trac wrote: > Comment (by ken@…): > At the moment I'm still trying to absorb the systemd changes in LFS - my > own scripts now build a working LFS with eudev and _current_ LFS > bootscripts, and I'm fairly confident that the systemv-on-systemd build > will work when I test it. But I