Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-08-09 Thread Damien Garwood
Hi Chris, Ironically, I went to college to learn to be a piano tuner, simply because you'd think that I was born at a piano. I've been playing since I was four years old and I'm the first to moan if a piano is out of tune! A person who is blind, rather than a blind person...Is there a differenc

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-08-09 Thread Damien Garwood
Hi, Just got back from my mum's, so only just got these updates. Christy, I would tend to disagree. It depends how your brain is wired differently. Even someone with severe learning/intellectual disabilities can be taught basic things. As far as I am aware, the only time it is impossible to lea

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-08-05 Thread Sharon S
. Bye for now. >From Shaz. Canberra, Australia. From: blind-gamers@groups.io On Behalf Of Chris Norman via groups.io Sent: Wednesday, 5 August 2020 8:17 PM To: blind-gamers@groups.io Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas? Honestly, the compass is the only ap

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-08-05 Thread Chris Norman via groups.io
days before it resets. > > > > Well I really should go now. > > From Shaz. > > Canberra, Australia. > > > > *From:* blind-gamers@groups.io > *On Behalf Of *Chris Norman via groups.io > *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 August 2020 11:50 PM > *To:* blind-gamers@gr

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-08-05 Thread Chris Norman via groups.io
> > about. Once I came out of a shopping mall a different way then > > I went in so had no idea > > where I should be going and neither did my dog. So I put my GPS > > on for help, I put in where > > I wanted to be and it then told me to walk a certain distance &

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-08-05 Thread Chris Norman via groups.io
irected towards a > wall of the hall. For example, North is the lake side of the hall, East is > the kitchen, South is the road side and west is the cupboards. However, > that only works while we are in the hall, take me outside and turn me > slightly and I will give you the wrong dir

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-08-04 Thread Shaun Everiss
11:50 PM *To:* blind-gamers@groups.io *Subject:* Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas? Hi mate, Not sure anyone can know where north is, unless they're really good at reading the sun (thinking that excludes most of us), or they've got a finely-tuned magnet embedded so

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-08-04 Thread Patrick Smyth
Canberra, Australia. From: blind-gamers@groups.io On Behalf Of Chris Norman via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, 4 August 2020 11:50 PM To: blind-gamers@groups.io Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas? Hi mate, Not sure anyone can know where north is, unless they're really

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-08-04 Thread Sharon S
now. >From Shaz. Canberra, Australia. From: blind-gamers@groups.io On Behalf Of Chris Norman via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, 4 August 2020 11:50 PM To: blind-gamers@groups.io Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas? Hi mate, Not sure anyone can know where north

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-08-04 Thread Chris Norman via groups.io
t; > > > Talk later. > > From Shaz. > > Canberra, Australia. > > > > *From:* blind-gamers@groups.io *On Behalf Of *Chris > Norman via groups.io > *Sent:* Monday, 3 August 2020 12:43 AM > *To:* blind-gamers@groups.io > *Subject:* Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-08-03 Thread Sharon S
rra, Australia. From: blind-gamers@groups.io On Behalf Of Chris Norman via groups.io Sent: Monday, 3 August 2020 12:43 AM To: blind-gamers@groups.io Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas? Yeah, it's changed my outlook too. I've been sending the odd message fro

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-08-02 Thread Chris Norman via groups.io
Yeah, it's changed my outlook too. I've been sending the odd message from this thread onto my wife as well. She's partial in one eye, and has recently gotten dead interested in all this stuff, since Google Maps took us alongside a canal late at night, and she suddenly realised her lovely vision sh

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-08-02 Thread Chris Norman via groups.io
Wow, no more questions, your honour. That is fascinating though! I never realised that a person couldn't tell when they'd made a dramatic turn to the point they'd feel like they were always travelling straight. I mean, I've done it with gradual turns, but yeah, what you describe is a whole new kin

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-08-02 Thread Chris Norman via groups.io
Oh man, I have literally no idea. I said it would be interesting, not that I'd have the first clue about how to go about doing it haha. It's rubbish that your research will get cancelled though! I'm sorry that'll affect your income, as well as killing of potentially invaluable research. Take care

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-08-01 Thread Jessica Hodges
hmm, that's a bit of a complicated question. I know general things, for example that glass is see through, but I'm not good at knowing the affects of light, shadow, angle, things like that, so I very well might have cast shadows, I don't remember by now. I'm not sure about computerized maps. I

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-08-01 Thread Christy S
From a purely analytical standpoint I'm fascinated too. I think the main point though is, if someone's brain doesn't know how to grasp a concept due to wiring from very early on for whatever reason, it can't just be taught. This is important, because if more people understood this, I think th

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-08-01 Thread Shaun Everiss
True criss but have you thought about the work involved. I do research twice a year for a local university. Sadly thats mostly international scholarship students. Firstly you need funding and even before the covid thing funding for various projects was getting slashed a load. Next you need s

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-08-01 Thread Chris Norman via groups.io
MMM, getting a bunch of test subjects together, and renting some time in an MRI would be fascinating. Hook people up to an electroencephalograph while they recount the route to their local shop, or listen to instructions on how to get to the nearest toilet might be illuminating. Take care, Chris

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-08-01 Thread Chris Norman via groups.io
That's really interesting! It's challenged my - admittedly narrow-minded - way of seeing things. A developmental psychologist I am not, but I find this stuff so damn fascinating! I'd love to sit and have a drink with you, and hear about your experiences with things. As a point of personal interes

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-08-01 Thread Chris Norman via groups.io
Hi mate, It's really bad that seemingly so many people have such little support. I mean, I'm unreasonably lucky in the support I had, although ironically I think that stemmed from an intended lack thereof. When the doctors told my Mum I was blind, their "silver lining" was "well, MRS. Norman, they

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-07-31 Thread Liam Erven
I agree. I think wiring or neural connections have a lot to do with a lot more than we consider. On 7/31/2020 9:25 AM, Jessica Hodges wrote: Hello. I would challenge, a little, the notion that mental mapping is tied to how much activity someone has had growing up. My mother encouraged me to

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-07-31 Thread Jessica Hodges
Hello. I would challenge, a little, the notion that mental mapping is tied to how much activity someone has had growing up. My mother encouraged me to wander, to play outside, sledding, etc. If I wanted to do something, she didn't tell me no, and she frequently pushed me to do things even when

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-07-31 Thread Damien Garwood
Hi Chris, People who have the skill of echo location are lucky - I could never grasp that! As for competence versus safety: If you don't use the tools you have then you're not going to look competent if you end up hurting yourself. Think about it, those who are prejudiced will judge you regardl

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-07-31 Thread Damien Garwood
Hi Christy, Yes, I've often been scorned at by people, blind and sighted alike, because I'm not skilled in those areas. Remarks like "A four-year-old could do this!", or, "Come on now, you're not thick", spring readily to mind from teachers and carers, and all kinds of nasty names that I won't

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-07-31 Thread Chris Norman via groups.io
Hi, I hear what you're saying about your friend who couldn't find stuff too well. I used to laugh at blind folks using echo location. Now I'm a bit older, and don't care as much what people think of me, I cheerily exchange looking competent for feeling safer. In my experience - both through people

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-07-30 Thread Christy S
Damien and others, I know I'm behind on this. I tend to skip over a lot of posts depending on subject, but a conversation or two over the last few days got me thinking about this. First thing's first. The reason the game you mentioned said 6:00 is that many people refer to directions using

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-07-27 Thread Chris Norman via groups.io
OK, I'd like to clear up a few things for you. They probably won't improve your life much, but they may shed light on some things. Compass directions have nothing to do with the sun, they are to do with the magnetic poles of the earth. If you imagine a lollipop (them balls of sugary stuff stuck on

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-07-27 Thread Damien Garwood
Hi, This will be quite a long message, because I'm starting to realise just how complicated spatial awareness can actually be. This is a thing I've been struggling with for years. I only managed A Hero's Call because following a beacon is like playing a reflex game. It says north, you turn arou

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-07-27 Thread Chris Norman via groups.io
If only life provided such coordinates. :) Take care, Chris Norman On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 16:08, Luke Hewitt wrote: > I've found myself, that practicing has actually improved my ability to > navigate in games. > > When I started with shades of doom and gma tank commander, I was having > trou

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-07-27 Thread Luke Hewitt
I've found myself, that practicing has actually improved my ability to navigate in games. When I started with shades of doom and gma tank commander, I was having trouble, and it wasn't until I thought out the physical spacial awareness test myself that I managed to get my head around the idea,

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-07-27 Thread Chris Norman via groups.io
Hi, You're absolutely right, we should be being a little more sensitive. I sincerely hope I was not one of the people who gave off the afore mentioned attitude. I do have a habit of doing that when I don't mean to, so I'm really sorry if I caused any offense. Also... I think statistics show that m

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-07-27 Thread Liam Erven
I too have a major issue with spacial awareness. I'm able to understand it from a theoretical perspective, but I get turned around and lost very easily. On 7/27/2020 7:59 AM, Jessica Hodges wrote: Hello: I have admittedly been watching this thread a little carefully, and have been impressed

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-07-27 Thread Jessica Hodges
Hello: I have admittedly been watching this thread a little carefully, and have been impressed at the ingenuity of some of the helpful ideas. However, I have also seen, I think, a rather unfortunate amount of, "Duh, this should be obvious." While I recognize that cardinal directions, compasses

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-07-27 Thread Luke Hewitt
Simple test, ask him about physical space. EG if your standing in your living room, with the sofa behind you and the door to your left, and you turn to face the door, the sofa is now on your left. Better still if he has an Iphone or other smart phone device get him to activate the compass a

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-07-26 Thread Charles Rivard
020 1:30 AM To: Blind Gamers Group Subject: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas? Morning everyone! Please can anyone come up with any ideas. I'm trying to help a new friend Damien Garwood complete level one on Shades of Doom. But he can't understand the basic points of t

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-07-26 Thread Uniquely Able
What's his confusion? They're the cardinal directions. https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon"; target="_blank">https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repe

Re: [blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-07-26 Thread Chris Norman via groups.io
If you're facing north, east is to your right, and west is to your left (left sort of rhymes with west). Never Eat Shreaded Wheat is how I was told to remember it, for north, east, south, west. That or Naughty Elephants Squirt Water. Could imagine standing at the centre of a cross for those of a

[blind-gamers] Explaining the compass, any ideas?

2020-07-25 Thread Gary Price(Gmail)
Morning everyone! Please can anyone come up with any ideas. I'm trying to help a new friend Damien Garwood complete level one on Shades of Doom. But he can't understand the basic points of the compass. North, South, East and West. My friend Chris Graham in Australia came up with the idea of a bo