Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

2018-04-15 Thread Travis Siegel
Not bad ideas.  3k has a farming system that requires you to keep the 
soil hydrated, aerated, and even bug infested to make sure you get the 
best quality plants.  Perhaps something like that could help here.  
Perhaps, every 10 or 20 seconds, a check could be made to see if all 
conditions are prime for growing, and if not, then you need to add 
water, fertalizer, pest control, or maybe introduce animals like 
earthworms to keep the soil in it's peak condition for growing.  I like 
these suggestions, I'll see how much work it will be to introduce some 
of these into the current environment, and sew what kind of a difference 
it makes in game play.  After all, it's supposed to be fun, not hard 
work. *grin*




On 4/15/2018 1:15 AM, dark wrote:

Hi Travis.

Take a look at Aprone's lunimals, which basically had the same idea 
with eco system management instead of farms.


the way to make that sort of game interesting is with lots of levels, 
acheivements, tasks to do etc and progressive measures in gameplay 
that let you progress.


For example, just because you can grow carrots on level one doesn't 
mean they're the best! carrots you can possibly grow, so maybe an 
achievement could involve growing and harvesting several generations 
of carrots flawlessly in order to improve the quality of your carrots 
(while protecting them from weeds, floods, ravenous goats etc).


Another idea might be to go the crafting kingdom route and have you 
need to buy different luxury achievement or estate items to win the 
game, for which you need to grow and sell increasingly better quality 
plants in increasingly different varieties.


Another might be tasks to grow certain combinations of things, for 
example suppose an Italian chef was making a special meal and 
requested yu provide good quality garlic, tomatoes and bazel as 
ingredients.
Hth. As I said I love the idea of this style of game so definitely 
keep on with things.


All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message - From: "Travis Siegel" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking


That's certainly possible. The way it works now is after you plant a
vegitable (no fruits yet), you have to wait a number of seconds (roughly
equivalent to how many days it would take in rl) before you can harvest
the plants. There's of course background music for each level, and
sounds for various things, (reaching the side of the garden plor,
finishing tasks, and so on). I do plan to add a market, (currently, you
can't do anything with the plnats once you harvest them except plant
them again. Of course, harvesting them is necessary to complete the
tasks for each level, and even after the market is added, that's only
going to add minimal color to the game, there's still not a whole lot to
do, which is why I kind of stopped fiddling with it for the last week or
so, I honestly can't for the life of me think of anything to do with it
to make it interesting.

Floods, drauts, storms, thieves, wild animals and so on could certainly
add spice, and are almost certainly going to be necessary before the
game is really playable, but still, I don't see the point of just
sitting there growing and harvesting plants. On a phone/tablet, it's a
nice way to pass the time, watching your garden grow over time, but on
the pc, it's just boring, and I can't think of anyway to spice it up
beyond making it more difficult, but then nobody wants to play it.
Perhaps, that's why there aren't any of these sorts of games on the pc.



On 4/14/2018 4:32 PM, Maureen McEntee wrote:
Hi Travis, how about making it like a real farm, with drouts, floods 
and the like and the farmer has to survive, and save his crops. then 
be able to sell them.



















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Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

2018-04-14 Thread dark

Hi Travis.

Take a look at Aprone's lunimals, which basically had the same idea with eco 
system management instead of farms.


the way to make that sort of game interesting is with lots of levels, 
acheivements, tasks to do etc and progressive measures in gameplay that let 
you progress.


For example, just because you can grow carrots on level one doesn't mean 
they're the best! carrots you can possibly grow, so maybe an achievement 
could involve growing and harvesting several generations of carrots 
flawlessly in order to improve the quality of your carrots (while protecting 
them from weeds, floods, ravenous goats etc).


Another idea might be to go the crafting kingdom route and have you need to 
buy different luxury achievement or estate items to win the game, for which 
you need to grow and sell increasingly better quality plants in increasingly 
different varieties.


Another might be tasks to grow certain combinations of things, for example 
suppose an Italian chef was making a special meal and requested yu provide 
good quality garlic, tomatoes and bazel as ingredients.
Hth. As I said I love the idea of this style of game so definitely keep on 
with things.


All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "Travis Siegel" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking


That's certainly possible. The way it works now is after you plant a
vegitable (no fruits yet), you have to wait a number of seconds (roughly
equivalent to how many days it would take in rl) before you can harvest
the plants. There's of course background music for each level, and
sounds for various things, (reaching the side of the garden plor,
finishing tasks, and so on). I do plan to add a market, (currently, you
can't do anything with the plnats once you harvest them except plant
them again. Of course, harvesting them is necessary to complete the
tasks for each level, and even after the market is added, that's only
going to add minimal color to the game, there's still not a whole lot to
do, which is why I kind of stopped fiddling with it for the last week or
so, I honestly can't for the life of me think of anything to do with it
to make it interesting.

Floods, drauts, storms, thieves, wild animals and so on could certainly
add spice, and are almost certainly going to be necessary before the
game is really playable, but still, I don't see the point of just
sitting there growing and harvesting plants. On a phone/tablet, it's a
nice way to pass the time, watching your garden grow over time, but on
the pc, it's just boring, and I can't think of anyway to spice it up
beyond making it more difficult, but then nobody wants to play it.
Perhaps, that's why there aren't any of these sorts of games on the pc.



On 4/14/2018 4:32 PM, Maureen McEntee wrote:
Hi Travis, how about making it like a real farm, with drouts, floods and 
the like and the farmer has to survive, and save his crops. then be able 
to sell them.












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Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

2018-04-14 Thread dark

Hi Travis.

Actually I'd love a game like this and have been thinking about design and 
suggestions.


The first is variation.
In reality, farming isn't just a matter of planting things and waiting, or 
even just remebering to add water every so often. You need to watch out for 
pests, perhaps irrigate the land if there is too much rain, or add extra 
water for too much sun, weed the garden whilst making sure not to pull up 
your plants etc, plus of course there are different sorts of soil conditions 
and such that affect different plants.


If anyone has ever played the gardening minigame in four dimensions mud 
you'll get an idea of this.


Basically games are fun when the player is engaged and need to use their 
judgement about certain conditions. So for example, suppose you have a field 
with carrots in the north and onions in the south.
Well you look at your north field and find weeds growing there. Okay, you 
need to take the time to pull out the weeds, however while your doing this 
there is a lot of rain. Your carrots will be okay in watery soil, but your 
onions need dryer conditions so you'll need to alternate your time between 
weeding in the north and shoveling a bit of sand in the south. The problem 
though is your spending so much time weeding that your at best only able to 
fulfill a holding action for your onions which are rapidly becomming water 
logged as the rainy weather continues, so you use some of your limited funds 
to buy weed killer which will ease off the weeding so you can concentrate 
more on drying the soil for your onions, as you hope that if you grow enough 
onions you can recoop the cost of your weedkiller.


This is the sort of thing I mean by judgement and reaction, give you 
changing conditions that affect your crops and require you to spend time and 
resources in the game making those judgements.


hth and I really hope your gardening game gets finished.

All the best,

Dark. 



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Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

2018-04-14 Thread Travis Siegel
That's certainly possible.  The way it works now is after you plant a 
vegitable (no fruits yet), you have to wait a number of seconds (roughly 
equivalent to how many days it would take in rl) before you can harvest 
the plants.  There's of course background music for each level, and 
sounds for various things, (reaching the side of the garden plor, 
finishing tasks, and so on).  I do plan to add a market, (currently, you 
can't do anything with the plnats once you harvest them except plant 
them again.  Of course, harvesting them is necessary to complete the 
tasks for each level, and even after the market is added, that's only 
going to add minimal color to the game, there's still not a whole lot to 
do, which is why I kind of stopped fiddling with it for the last week or 
so, I honestly can't for the life of me think of anything to do with it 
to make it interesting.


Floods, drauts, storms, thieves, wild animals and so on could certainly 
add spice, and are almost certainly going to be necessary before the 
game is really playable, but still, I don't see the point of just 
sitting there growing and harvesting plants.  On a phone/tablet, it's a 
nice way to pass the time, watching your garden grow over time, but on 
the pc, it's just boring, and I can't think of anyway to spice it up 
beyond making it more difficult, but then nobody wants to play it.  
Perhaps, that's why there aren't any of these sorts of games on the pc. 




On 4/14/2018 4:32 PM, Maureen McEntee wrote:
Hi Travis, how about making it like a real farm, with drouts, floods 
and the like and the farmer has to survive, and save his crops. then 
be able to sell them.









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Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

2018-04-14 Thread Maureen McEntee
Hi Travis, how about making it like a real farm, with drouts, floods 
and the like and the farmer has to survive, and save his crops. then be 
able to sell them.


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Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

2018-04-14 Thread Travis Siegel

Heh, just for information, and kind of a outreach.

I've actually been working on a game similar to those found on the 
Iphone where you can grow things in your garden, harvest them, sell 
them, upgrade them, and so on.  My wife plays one of these, and it 
sounded so interesting, I decided to write one for myself. At the moment 
it's level based, so you can only grow carrots on level 1, and once you 
reach level 2, you can grow carrots or onions, but there's tasks to 
complete on each level, and although there's no quest sytem yet, I'm 
working on that as well. Basically, quests will be tasks that aren't 
level based.


My current problem though is one of creativity.  I'm kind of out of 
ideas on how to make this thing interesting.  You can plant and harvest 
plants for so long before it gets too boring to play anymore, so I'm 
trying to come up with things that will make the game worth playing long 
term.


I'm not quite ready for player testing yet, but if anyone would like to 
suggest ideas on how to make this thing more interesting, I'm sure open 
to suggestions.



On 2/23/2018 7:35 PM, Tyler Zahnke wrote:

In the mainstream video game world, there are games like Cooking Mama
and Burger Time. I was wondering if there were any audio-based games
with a food/cooking theme.





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Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

2018-04-14 Thread Travis Siegel
Just for reference, jzip and frots both compile just fine on mac OSX.  I 
used to have copies on my mac pages, but I have since lost those actual 
pages, though I'm sure I can still find the programs if anyone still 
wants them.  Perhaps I need to rebuild my mac pages, and post everything 
again.  I only have an older (cerca 2009 macbook) at the moment, so 
can't say how well anything I compile on it will work with newer macs, 
but it's trivially easy to build jzip and frots on the mac, and 
honestly, I don't see the need for macports, not the least of reasons is 
because when I installed it back in 2005, it hosed my system, requiring 
a reinstall of the os.  Every since then, I've actually gone through the 
macports catalog, and compiled each and every program they offered (at 
the time) on the mac without macports, and it worked just fine, so you 
can't feed me any crap about how any emulation layer is necessary for 
compatability.




On 2/24/2018 6:38 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
z8 games can be played even on modern platforms.  You would probably 
need win-frotz to play them though.  For those using Linux, we have 
frotz and jzip available to us.  The mac platform might have a problem 
unless these packages are on darwin or fink or in the apple store, but 
iPhone users and iPad users won't have any problem since the frotz app 
is available in the app store and now you can use it to browse 
ifarchives for games.






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Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

2018-02-25 Thread Shaun Everiss
Parchment is a web interpriter I guess you can but I have no idea where 
one would get it.





On 25/02/2018 5:09 a.m., Jude DaShiell wrote:
Parchment is really difficult to erase.  All kinds of Pagan Literature 
from the days when Rome was a major power are being recovered because 
of this.  For sure, clay tablets with a stylus can be used to play 
those games so long as the clay isn't hardened. :-)

On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, Tyler Zahnke wrote:


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 10:28:50
From: Tyler Zahnke 
Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

I wonder if they can be played on Parchment. I think Parchment is
cross-platform. And I thought people were still making games for the
Z-machine using Inform 6 and 7, mostly 7.

On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:

Hard?  Have you tried a google search like frotz for windows yet?  Or
frotz for mac yet?

On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, Tyler Zahnke wrote:


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 10:21:27
From: Tyler Zahnke 
Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

I mean, even the Apex can play Z5 files, so why is it so hard to find
software that can play them?

On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:
Most of them aren't playing on the original z-machine any longer.  
You
might be able to find one of them in Rick's Pawn Shop or that Pawn 
Shop

in Detroit that's on TV or maybe the Smithsonian Museum by now.

On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, Tyler Zahnke wrote:


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 07:46:27
From: Tyler Zahnke 
Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

Well, if I remember correctly, Zork was for the original Z machine,
and that's a game that's held up just as well as any 80s video game;
millions still play it.

On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:
z8 is the last so far of the z-machine formats the .z5 format 
was an

earlier format.
On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, Tyler Zahnke wrote:


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 07:39:55
From: Tyler Zahnke 
Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

Wait, I'm confused. Based on the numbers, Z8 sounds newer than Z5.
Why
would it be harder to find software that's compatible with Z8 
games

than it is to find software compatible with Z5 games?

On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:
z8 games can be played even on modern platforms.  You would 
probably
need win-frotz to play them though.  For those using Linux, we 
have

frotz and jzip available to us.  The mac platform might have a
problem
unless these packages are on darwin or fink or in the apple 
store,

but
iPhone users and iPad users won't have any problem since the 
frotz

app
is available in the app store and now you can use it to browse
ifarchives for games.

On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, mattias wrote:


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 00:47:45
From: mattias 
Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

z8? i think you cant play so old games on modern platforms
accessible?

e.g here in sweden there is a old webpage with swedish text
adventures
for
i
think amiga and some more

but no no you cant play it accessible


Den 2018-02-24 kl. 06:27, skrev Jude DaShiell:

 I forget if this is a .z8 game or .tads but I remember one of
them
with
 the title "chicken vindalou" in which you prepared that dish.

 On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, dark wrote:


 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 22:07:56
 From: dark 
 Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
 To: blind-gamers@groups.io
 Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

 Not as yet.

 I believe Aprone is working on a restaurant management sim 
which

we
might
 see at some point, revelation involves lots of recipes 
some of

which
re
 cooking based, and as part of Parkboss you can setup snack
stands,
but
 that is about it in the world of audiogames.

 There are however lots of muds and several browser games 
which

feature
 cooking, some of it fairly in depth cooking as an activity,
though
none
 concentrate on cooking specifically.

 off the top of my head Kingdom of loathing and 
metroplexity both

have
 cooking and coctail crafting as major parts of their rp 
ethos,

while
the
 creature rpg puppet? nightmares lets you make recipes to 
feed to

your
 soul puppets and even has a major quest chain where you 
work for

a?
chef.

 Gates of survival has cooking as an activity, but the 
access on

that
one
 is a little iffy.

 Mud wise, many of the crafting and survival muds such as Clok
and
lament
 have cooking, and I believe alteraeon is just introducing it
too.

 Flexible survival also has cooking recipes as? parts of the
general
 crafting.

 i know these aren't exactly what your looking for but 
these are

thus
far
 the best examples of? games with cooking in that I can 
think of.


 hth.

 All the best,

 Dark.
 ---

Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

2018-02-25 Thread Tyler Zahnke
I make interactive fiction myself (well, I did from 2012 to 2014 and
considered getting back into it), and I always wrote them in
JavaScript so that the players don't need to download any extra
software. I'm actually considering writing my next one in Twine, which
apparently compiles to more complex JavaScript; but I'll write it in
Twine, not JS, because Twine is easy, or so it's been said.

On 2/25/18, Shaun Everiss  wrote:
> Ok, the z machines started from zork.
>
> that used a .dat extention.
>
> then we had z3, z5 z6 and z8.
>
> Of those z5 and z8 are commenplace.
>
> Glulx or inform7 uses blb blorb zblorb and ulx.
>
> Depending on the things the latest inform 7 versions have graphics and
> sounds I forget the rest of that though.
>
> z8 is still about but yeah its old now.
>
> Winglulx handles inform7 and winfrotz for other stuff frotz and glulx
> interpriters run on everything from amiga and dos to windows ios and
> android.
>
> Some run on black burry and raspberry pie of all things so.
>
>
>
>
> On 25/02/2018 1:46 a.m., Tyler Zahnke wrote:
>> Well, if I remember correctly, Zork was for the original Z machine,
>> and that's a game that's held up just as well as any 80s video game;
>> millions still play it.
>>
>> On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:
>>> z8 is the last so far of the z-machine formats the .z5 format was an
>>> earlier format.
>>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, Tyler Zahnke wrote:
>>>
>>>> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 07:39:55
>>>> From: Tyler Zahnke 
>>>> Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking
>>>>
>>>> Wait, I'm confused. Based on the numbers, Z8 sounds newer than Z5. Why
>>>> would it be harder to find software that's compatible with Z8 games
>>>> than it is to find software compatible with Z5 games?
>>>>
>>>> On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:
>>>>> z8 games can be played even on modern platforms.  You would probably
>>>>> need win-frotz to play them though.  For those using Linux, we have
>>>>> frotz and jzip available to us.  The mac platform might have a problem
>>>>> unless these packages are on darwin or fink or in the apple store, but
>>>>> iPhone users and iPad users won't have any problem since the frotz app
>>>>> is available in the app store and now you can use it to browse
>>>>> ifarchives for games.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, mattias wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 00:47:45
>>>>>> From: mattias 
>>>>>> Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>>>> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking
>>>>>>
>>>>>> z8? i think you cant play so old games on modern platforms
>>>>>> accessible?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> e.g here in sweden there is a old webpage with swedish text
>>>>>> adventures
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> i
>>>>>> think amiga and some more
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but no no you cant play it accessible
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Den 2018-02-24 kl. 06:27, skrev Jude DaShiell:
>>>>>>>   I forget if this is a .z8 game or .tads but I remember one of them
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>   the title "chicken vindalou" in which you prepared that dish.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, dark wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 22:07:56
>>>>>>>>   From: dark 
>>>>>>>>   Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>>>>>>   To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>>>>>>   Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Not as yet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   I believe Aprone is working on a restaurant management sim which
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>   see at some point, revelation involves lots of recipes some of
>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>> re
>>>>>>>>   cooking based, and as part of Parkboss you c

Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

2018-02-25 Thread Shaun Everiss

Ok, the z machines started from zork.

that used a .dat extention.

then we had z3, z5 z6 and z8.

Of those z5 and z8 are commenplace.

Glulx or inform7 uses blb blorb zblorb and ulx.

Depending on the things the latest inform 7 versions have graphics and 
sounds I forget the rest of that though.


z8 is still about but yeah its old now.

Winglulx handles inform7 and winfrotz for other stuff frotz and glulx 
interpriters run on everything from amiga and dos to windows ios and 
android.


Some run on black burry and raspberry pie of all things so.




On 25/02/2018 1:46 a.m., Tyler Zahnke wrote:

Well, if I remember correctly, Zork was for the original Z machine,
and that's a game that's held up just as well as any 80s video game;
millions still play it.

On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:

z8 is the last so far of the z-machine formats the .z5 format was an
earlier format.
On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, Tyler Zahnke wrote:


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 07:39:55
From: Tyler Zahnke 
Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

Wait, I'm confused. Based on the numbers, Z8 sounds newer than Z5. Why
would it be harder to find software that's compatible with Z8 games
than it is to find software compatible with Z5 games?

On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:

z8 games can be played even on modern platforms.  You would probably
need win-frotz to play them though.  For those using Linux, we have
frotz and jzip available to us.  The mac platform might have a problem
unless these packages are on darwin or fink or in the apple store, but
iPhone users and iPad users won't have any problem since the frotz app
is available in the app store and now you can use it to browse
ifarchives for games.

On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, mattias wrote:


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 00:47:45
From: mattias 
Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

z8? i think you cant play so old games on modern platforms accessible?

e.g here in sweden there is a old webpage with swedish text adventures
for
i
think amiga and some more

but no no you cant play it accessible


Den 2018-02-24 kl. 06:27, skrev Jude DaShiell:

  I forget if this is a .z8 game or .tads but I remember one of them
with
  the title "chicken vindalou" in which you prepared that dish.

  On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, dark wrote:


  Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 22:07:56
  From: dark 
  Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
  To: blind-gamers@groups.io
  Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

  Not as yet.

  I believe Aprone is working on a restaurant management sim which we
might
  see at some point, revelation involves lots of recipes some of which
re
  cooking based, and as part of Parkboss you can setup snack stands,
but
  that is about it in the world of audiogames.

  There are however lots of muds and several browser games which
feature
  cooking, some of it fairly in depth cooking as an activity, though
none
  concentrate on cooking specifically.

  off the top of my head Kingdom of loathing and metroplexity both
have
  cooking and coctail crafting as major parts of their rp ethos, while
the
  creature rpg puppet? nightmares lets you make recipes to feed to
your
  soul puppets and even has a major quest chain where you work for a?
chef.

  Gates of survival has cooking as an activity, but the access on that
one
  is a little iffy.

  Mud wise, many of the crafting and survival muds such as Clok and
lament
  have cooking, and I believe alteraeon is just introducing it too.

  Flexible survival also has cooking recipes as? parts of the general
  crafting.

  i know these aren't exactly what your looking for but these are thus
far
  the best examples of? games with cooking in that I can think of.

  hth.

  All the best,

  Dark.
  - Original Message - From: "Tyler Zahnke"
  
  To: 
  Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 12:35 AM
  Subject: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking



  ?In the mainstream video game world, there are games like Cooking
Mama
  ?and Burger Time. I was wondering if there were any audio-based
games
  ?with a food/cooking theme.















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Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

2018-02-25 Thread mattias
What about Android tablets?

Skickades från E-post för Windows 10

Från: dark
Skickat: den 24 februari 2018 17:22
Till: blind-gamers@groups.io
Ämne: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

I thought the mac had an interpreter called Zoom or something that could 
play Zcode, tads and glulks  games, though obviously since I don't have a 
mac I'm  only guessing here.

All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "Jude DaShiell" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking


> z8 games can be played even on modern platforms.  You would probably need 
> win-frotz to play them though.  For those using Linux, we have frotz and 
> jzip available to us.  The mac platform might have a problem unless these 
> packages are on darwin or fink or in the apple store, but iPhone users and 
> iPad users won't have any problem since the frotz app is available in the 
> app store and now you can use it to browse ifarchives for games.
>
> On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, mattias wrote:
>
>> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 00:47:45
>> From: mattias 
>> Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking
>>
>> z8? i think you cant play so old games on modern platforms accessible?
>>
>> e.g here in sweden there is a old webpage with swedish text adventures 
>> for i think amiga and some more
>>
>> but no no you cant play it accessible
>>
>>
>> Den 2018-02-24 kl. 06:27, skrev Jude DaShiell:
>>>  I forget if this is a .z8 game or .tads but I remember one of them with
>>>  the title "chicken vindalou" in which you prepared that dish.
>>>
>>>  On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, dark wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 22:07:56
>>>>  From: dark 
>>>>  Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>>  To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>>  Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking
>>>>
>>>>  Not as yet.
>>>>
>>>>  I believe Aprone is working on a restaurant management sim which we 
>>>> might
>>>>  see at some point, revelation involves lots of recipes some of which 
>>>> re
>>>>  cooking based, and as part of Parkboss you can setup snack stands, but
>>>>  that is about it in the world of audiogames.
>>>>
>>>>  There are however lots of muds and several browser games which feature
>>>>  cooking, some of it fairly in depth cooking as an activity, though 
>>>> none
>>>>  concentrate on cooking specifically.
>>>>
>>>>  off the top of my head Kingdom of loathing and metroplexity both have
>>>>  cooking and coctail crafting as major parts of their rp ethos, while 
>>>> the
>>>>  creature rpg puppet? nightmares lets you make recipes to feed to your
>>>>  soul puppets and even has a major quest chain where you work for a? 
>>>> chef.
>>>>
>>>>  Gates of survival has cooking as an activity, but the access on that 
>>>> one
>>>>  is a little iffy.
>>>>
>>>>  Mud wise, many of the crafting and survival muds such as Clok and 
>>>> lament
>>>>  have cooking, and I believe alteraeon is just introducing it too.
>>>>
>>>>  Flexible survival also has cooking recipes as? parts of the general
>>>>  crafting.
>>>>
>>>>  i know these aren't exactly what your looking for but these are thus 
>>>> far
>>>>  the best examples of? games with cooking in that I can think of.
>>>>
>>>>  hth.
>>>>
>>>>  All the best,
>>>>
>>>>  Dark.
>>>>  - Original Message - From: "Tyler Zahnke"
>>>>  
>>>>  To: 
>>>>  Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 12:35 AM
>>>>  Subject: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking
>>>>
>>>>>  ?In the mainstream video game world, there are games like Cooking 
>>>>> Mama
>>>>>  ?and Burger Time. I was wondering if there were any audio-based games
>>>>>  ?with a food/cooking theme.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> -- 
>
>
> 
> 







Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

2018-02-24 Thread Jessica Hodges
their are always the iPhone games by maverick software, depending on 
what devices you have, more cupcakes is a good starting point.


Jessica.

2/23/2018 11:27 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
I forget if this is a .z8 game or .tads but I remember one of them 
with the title "chicken vindalou" in which you prepared that dish.


On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, dark wrote:


Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 22:07:56
From: dark 
Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

Not as yet.

I believe Aprone is working on a restaurant management sim which we 
might see at some point, revelation involves lots of recipes some of 
which re cooking based, and as part of Parkboss you can setup snack 
stands, but that is about it in the world of audiogames.


There are however lots of muds and several browser games which 
feature cooking, some of it fairly in depth cooking as an activity, 
though none concentrate on cooking specifically.


off the top of my head Kingdom of loathing and metroplexity both have 
cooking and coctail crafting as major parts of their rp ethos, while 
the creature rpg puppet  nightmares lets you make recipes to feed to 
your soul puppets and even has a major quest chain where you work for 
a  chef.


Gates of survival has cooking as an activity, but the access on that 
one is a little iffy.


Mud wise, many of the crafting and survival muds such as Clok and 
lament have cooking, and I believe alteraeon is just introducing it too.


Flexible survival also has cooking recipes as  parts of the general 
crafting.


i know these aren't exactly what your looking for but these are thus 
far the best examples of  games with cooking in that I can think of.


hth.

All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message - From: "Tyler Zahnke" 


To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 12:35 AM
Subject: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking



 In the mainstream video game world, there are games like Cooking Mama
 and Burger Time. I was wondering if there were any audio-based games
 with a food/cooking theme.














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Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

2018-02-24 Thread dark
Hmmm, it isn't hard to find  software to play zcode games at all, or indeed 
games in other If formats like tads or glulks either.


All the best,

Dark.


- Original Message - 
From: "Tyler Zahnke" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking



I mean, even the Apex can play Z5 files, so why is it so hard to find
software that can play them?

On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:

Most of them aren't playing on the original z-machine any longer.  You
might be able to find one of them in Rick's Pawn Shop or that Pawn Shop
in Detroit that's on TV or maybe the Smithsonian Museum by now.

On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, Tyler Zahnke wrote:


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 07:46:27
From: Tyler Zahnke 
Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

Well, if I remember correctly, Zork was for the original Z machine,
and that's a game that's held up just as well as any 80s video game;
millions still play it.

On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:

z8 is the last so far of the z-machine formats the .z5 format was an
earlier format.
On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, Tyler Zahnke wrote:


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 07:39:55
From: Tyler Zahnke 
Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

Wait, I'm confused. Based on the numbers, Z8 sounds newer than Z5. Why
would it be harder to find software that's compatible with Z8 games
than it is to find software compatible with Z5 games?

On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:

z8 games can be played even on modern platforms.  You would probably
need win-frotz to play them though.  For those using Linux, we have
frotz and jzip available to us.  The mac platform might have a 
problem
unless these packages are on darwin or fink or in the apple store, 
but
iPhone users and iPad users won't have any problem since the frotz 
app

is available in the app store and now you can use it to browse
ifarchives for games.

On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, mattias wrote:


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 00:47:45
From: mattias 
Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

z8? i think you cant play so old games on modern platforms
accessible?

e.g here in sweden there is a old webpage with swedish text
adventures
for
i
think amiga and some more

but no no you cant play it accessible


Den 2018-02-24 kl. 06:27, skrev Jude DaShiell:

 I forget if this is a .z8 game or .tads but I remember one of them
with
 the title "chicken vindalou" in which you prepared that dish.

 On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, dark wrote:


 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 22:07:56
 From: dark 
 Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
 To: blind-gamers@groups.io
 Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

 Not as yet.

 I believe Aprone is working on a restaurant management sim which
we
might
 see at some point, revelation involves lots of recipes some of
which
re
 cooking based, and as part of Parkboss you can setup snack 
stands,

but
 that is about it in the world of audiogames.

 There are however lots of muds and several browser games which
feature
 cooking, some of it fairly in depth cooking as an activity, 
though

none
 concentrate on cooking specifically.

 off the top of my head Kingdom of loathing and metroplexity both
have
 cooking and coctail crafting as major parts of their rp ethos,
while
the
 creature rpg puppet? nightmares lets you make recipes to feed to
your
 soul puppets and even has a major quest chain where you work for
a?
chef.

 Gates of survival has cooking as an activity, but the access on
that
one
 is a little iffy.

 Mud wise, many of the crafting and survival muds such as Clok and
lament
 have cooking, and I believe alteraeon is just introducing it too.

 Flexible survival also has cooking recipes as? parts of the
general
 crafting.

 i know these aren't exactly what your looking for but these are
thus
far
 the best examples of? games with cooking in that I can think of.

 hth.

 All the best,

 Dark.
 - Original Message - From: "Tyler Zahnke"
 
 To: 
 Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 12:35 AM
 Subject: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking


 ?In the mainstream video game world, there are games like 
Cooking

Mama
 ?and Burger Time. I was wondering if there were any audio-based
games
 ?with a food/cooking theme.




















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Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

2018-02-24 Thread dark
I thought the mac had an interpreter called Zoom or something that could 
play Zcode, tads and glulks  games, though obviously since I don't have a 
mac I'm  only guessing here.


All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "Jude DaShiell" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking


z8 games can be played even on modern platforms.  You would probably need 
win-frotz to play them though.  For those using Linux, we have frotz and 
jzip available to us.  The mac platform might have a problem unless these 
packages are on darwin or fink or in the apple store, but iPhone users and 
iPad users won't have any problem since the frotz app is available in the 
app store and now you can use it to browse ifarchives for games.


On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, mattias wrote:


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 00:47:45
From: mattias 
Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

z8? i think you cant play so old games on modern platforms accessible?

e.g here in sweden there is a old webpage with swedish text adventures 
for i think amiga and some more


but no no you cant play it accessible


Den 2018-02-24 kl. 06:27, skrev Jude DaShiell:

 I forget if this is a .z8 game or .tads but I remember one of them with
 the title "chicken vindalou" in which you prepared that dish.

 On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, dark wrote:


 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 22:07:56
 From: dark 
 Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
 To: blind-gamers@groups.io
 Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

 Not as yet.

 I believe Aprone is working on a restaurant management sim which we 
might
 see at some point, revelation involves lots of recipes some of which 
re

 cooking based, and as part of Parkboss you can setup snack stands, but
 that is about it in the world of audiogames.

 There are however lots of muds and several browser games which feature
 cooking, some of it fairly in depth cooking as an activity, though 
none

 concentrate on cooking specifically.

 off the top of my head Kingdom of loathing and metroplexity both have
 cooking and coctail crafting as major parts of their rp ethos, while 
the

 creature rpg puppet? nightmares lets you make recipes to feed to your
 soul puppets and even has a major quest chain where you work for a? 
chef.


 Gates of survival has cooking as an activity, but the access on that 
one

 is a little iffy.

 Mud wise, many of the crafting and survival muds such as Clok and 
lament

 have cooking, and I believe alteraeon is just introducing it too.

 Flexible survival also has cooking recipes as? parts of the general
 crafting.

 i know these aren't exactly what your looking for but these are thus 
far

 the best examples of? games with cooking in that I can think of.

 hth.

 All the best,

 Dark.
 - Original Message - From: "Tyler Zahnke"
 
 To: 
 Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 12:35 AM
 Subject: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

 ?In the mainstream video game world, there are games like Cooking 
Mama

 ?and Burger Time. I was wondering if there were any audio-based games
 ?with a food/cooking theme.



















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Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

2018-02-24 Thread Tyler Zahnke
Seriously, nobody's heard of the app Parchment? Is that still available?

On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:
> Parchment is really difficult to erase.  All kinds of Pagan Literature
> from the days when Rome was a major power are being recovered because of
> this.  For sure, clay tablets with a stylus can be used to play those
> games so long as the clay isn't hardened. :-)
> On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, Tyler
> Zahnke wrote:
>
>> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 10:28:50
>> From: Tyler Zahnke 
>> Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking
>>
>> I wonder if they can be played on Parchment. I think Parchment is
>> cross-platform. And I thought people were still making games for the
>> Z-machine using Inform 6 and 7, mostly 7.
>>
>> On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:
>>> Hard?  Have you tried a google search like frotz for windows yet?  Or
>>> frotz for mac yet?
>>>
>>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, Tyler Zahnke wrote:
>>>
>>>> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 10:21:27
>>>> From: Tyler Zahnke 
>>>> Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking
>>>>
>>>> I mean, even the Apex can play Z5 files, so why is it so hard to find
>>>> software that can play them?
>>>>
>>>> On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:
>>>>> Most of them aren't playing on the original z-machine any longer.  You
>>>>> might be able to find one of them in Rick's Pawn Shop or that Pawn
>>>>> Shop
>>>>> in Detroit that's on TV or maybe the Smithsonian Museum by now.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, Tyler Zahnke wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 07:46:27
>>>>>> From: Tyler Zahnke 
>>>>>> Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>>>> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, if I remember correctly, Zork was for the original Z machine,
>>>>>> and that's a game that's held up just as well as any 80s video game;
>>>>>> millions still play it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:
>>>>>>> z8 is the last so far of the z-machine formats the .z5 format was an
>>>>>>> earlier format.
>>>>>>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, Tyler Zahnke wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 07:39:55
>>>>>>>> From: Tyler Zahnke 
>>>>>>>> Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>>>>>> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wait, I'm confused. Based on the numbers, Z8 sounds newer than Z5.
>>>>>>>> Why
>>>>>>>> would it be harder to find software that's compatible with Z8 games
>>>>>>>> than it is to find software compatible with Z5 games?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> z8 games can be played even on modern platforms.  You would
>>>>>>>>> probably
>>>>>>>>> need win-frotz to play them though.  For those using Linux, we
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> frotz and jzip available to us.  The mac platform might have a
>>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>> unless these packages are on darwin or fink or in the apple store,
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> iPhone users and iPad users won't have any problem since the frotz
>>>>>>>>> app
>>>>>>>>> is available in the app store and now you can use it to browse
>>>>>>>>> ifarchives for games.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, mattias wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 00:47:45
>>>>>>>>>> From: mattias 
>>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>>>>>>>> To: blind-gam

Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

2018-02-24 Thread Jude DaShiell
Parchment is really difficult to erase.  All kinds of Pagan Literature 
from the days when Rome was a major power are being recovered because of 
this.  For sure, clay tablets with a stylus can be used to play those 
games so long as the clay isn't hardened. :-)
On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, Tyler 
Zahnke wrote:



Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 10:28:50
From: Tyler Zahnke 
Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

I wonder if they can be played on Parchment. I think Parchment is
cross-platform. And I thought people were still making games for the
Z-machine using Inform 6 and 7, mostly 7.

On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:

Hard?  Have you tried a google search like frotz for windows yet?  Or
frotz for mac yet?

On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, Tyler Zahnke wrote:


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 10:21:27
From: Tyler Zahnke 
Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

I mean, even the Apex can play Z5 files, so why is it so hard to find
software that can play them?

On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:

Most of them aren't playing on the original z-machine any longer.  You
might be able to find one of them in Rick's Pawn Shop or that Pawn Shop
in Detroit that's on TV or maybe the Smithsonian Museum by now.

On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, Tyler Zahnke wrote:


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 07:46:27
From: Tyler Zahnke 
Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

Well, if I remember correctly, Zork was for the original Z machine,
and that's a game that's held up just as well as any 80s video game;
millions still play it.

On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:

z8 is the last so far of the z-machine formats the .z5 format was an
earlier format.
On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, Tyler Zahnke wrote:


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 07:39:55
From: Tyler Zahnke 
Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

Wait, I'm confused. Based on the numbers, Z8 sounds newer than Z5.
Why
would it be harder to find software that's compatible with Z8 games
than it is to find software compatible with Z5 games?

On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:

z8 games can be played even on modern platforms.  You would probably
need win-frotz to play them though.  For those using Linux, we have
frotz and jzip available to us.  The mac platform might have a
problem
unless these packages are on darwin or fink or in the apple store,
but
iPhone users and iPad users won't have any problem since the frotz
app
is available in the app store and now you can use it to browse
ifarchives for games.

On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, mattias wrote:


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 00:47:45
From: mattias 
Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

z8? i think you cant play so old games on modern platforms
accessible?

e.g here in sweden there is a old webpage with swedish text
adventures
for
i
think amiga and some more

but no no you cant play it accessible


Den 2018-02-24 kl. 06:27, skrev Jude DaShiell:

 I forget if this is a .z8 game or .tads but I remember one of
them
with
 the title "chicken vindalou" in which you prepared that dish.

 On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, dark wrote:


 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 22:07:56
 From: dark 
 Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
 To: blind-gamers@groups.io
 Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

 Not as yet.

 I believe Aprone is working on a restaurant management sim which
we
might
 see at some point, revelation involves lots of recipes some of
which
re
 cooking based, and as part of Parkboss you can setup snack
stands,
but
 that is about it in the world of audiogames.

 There are however lots of muds and several browser games which
feature
 cooking, some of it fairly in depth cooking as an activity,
though
none
 concentrate on cooking specifically.

 off the top of my head Kingdom of loathing and metroplexity both
have
 cooking and coctail crafting as major parts of their rp ethos,
while
the
 creature rpg puppet? nightmares lets you make recipes to feed to
your
 soul puppets and even has a major quest chain where you work for
a?
chef.

 Gates of survival has cooking as an activity, but the access on
that
one
 is a little iffy.

 Mud wise, many of the crafting and survival muds such as Clok
and
lament
 have cooking, and I believe alteraeon is just introducing it
too.

 Flexible survival also has cooking recipes as? parts of the
general
 crafting.

 i know these aren't exactly what your looking for but these are
thus
far
 the best examples of? games with cooking in that I can think of.

 hth.

 All the best,

 Dark.
 - Original Message - From: "Tyler Zahnke"
 
 To: 
 Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 12:35 AM
 Subject: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking



 

Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

2018-02-24 Thread Tyler Zahnke
I wonder if they can be played on Parchment. I think Parchment is
cross-platform. And I thought people were still making games for the
Z-machine using Inform 6 and 7, mostly 7.

On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:
> Hard?  Have you tried a google search like frotz for windows yet?  Or
> frotz for mac yet?
>
> On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, Tyler Zahnke wrote:
>
>> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 10:21:27
>> From: Tyler Zahnke 
>> Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking
>>
>> I mean, even the Apex can play Z5 files, so why is it so hard to find
>> software that can play them?
>>
>> On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:
>>> Most of them aren't playing on the original z-machine any longer.  You
>>> might be able to find one of them in Rick's Pawn Shop or that Pawn Shop
>>> in Detroit that's on TV or maybe the Smithsonian Museum by now.
>>>
>>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, Tyler Zahnke wrote:
>>>
>>>> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 07:46:27
>>>> From: Tyler Zahnke 
>>>> Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking
>>>>
>>>> Well, if I remember correctly, Zork was for the original Z machine,
>>>> and that's a game that's held up just as well as any 80s video game;
>>>> millions still play it.
>>>>
>>>> On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:
>>>>> z8 is the last so far of the z-machine formats the .z5 format was an
>>>>> earlier format.
>>>>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, Tyler Zahnke wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 07:39:55
>>>>>> From: Tyler Zahnke 
>>>>>> Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>>>> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wait, I'm confused. Based on the numbers, Z8 sounds newer than Z5.
>>>>>> Why
>>>>>> would it be harder to find software that's compatible with Z8 games
>>>>>> than it is to find software compatible with Z5 games?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:
>>>>>>> z8 games can be played even on modern platforms.  You would probably
>>>>>>> need win-frotz to play them though.  For those using Linux, we have
>>>>>>> frotz and jzip available to us.  The mac platform might have a
>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>> unless these packages are on darwin or fink or in the apple store,
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> iPhone users and iPad users won't have any problem since the frotz
>>>>>>> app
>>>>>>> is available in the app store and now you can use it to browse
>>>>>>> ifarchives for games.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, mattias wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 00:47:45
>>>>>>>> From: mattias 
>>>>>>>> Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>>>>>> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> z8? i think you cant play so old games on modern platforms
>>>>>>>> accessible?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> e.g here in sweden there is a old webpage with swedish text
>>>>>>>> adventures
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>> think amiga and some more
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but no no you cant play it accessible
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Den 2018-02-24 kl. 06:27, skrev Jude DaShiell:
>>>>>>>>>  I forget if this is a .z8 game or .tads but I remember one of
>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>  the title "chicken vindalou" in which you prepared that dish.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, dark wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 22:07:56
&

Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

2018-02-24 Thread Jude DaShiell
Hard?  Have you tried a google search like frotz for windows yet?  Or 
frotz for mac yet?


On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, Tyler Zahnke wrote:


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 10:21:27
From: Tyler Zahnke 
Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

I mean, even the Apex can play Z5 files, so why is it so hard to find
software that can play them?

On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:

Most of them aren't playing on the original z-machine any longer.  You
might be able to find one of them in Rick's Pawn Shop or that Pawn Shop
in Detroit that's on TV or maybe the Smithsonian Museum by now.

On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, Tyler Zahnke wrote:


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 07:46:27
From: Tyler Zahnke 
Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

Well, if I remember correctly, Zork was for the original Z machine,
and that's a game that's held up just as well as any 80s video game;
millions still play it.

On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:

z8 is the last so far of the z-machine formats the .z5 format was an
earlier format.
On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, Tyler Zahnke wrote:


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 07:39:55
From: Tyler Zahnke 
Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

Wait, I'm confused. Based on the numbers, Z8 sounds newer than Z5. Why
would it be harder to find software that's compatible with Z8 games
than it is to find software compatible with Z5 games?

On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:

z8 games can be played even on modern platforms.  You would probably
need win-frotz to play them though.  For those using Linux, we have
frotz and jzip available to us.  The mac platform might have a problem
unless these packages are on darwin or fink or in the apple store, but
iPhone users and iPad users won't have any problem since the frotz app
is available in the app store and now you can use it to browse
ifarchives for games.

On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, mattias wrote:


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 00:47:45
From: mattias 
Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

z8? i think you cant play so old games on modern platforms
accessible?

e.g here in sweden there is a old webpage with swedish text
adventures
for
i
think amiga and some more

but no no you cant play it accessible


Den 2018-02-24 kl. 06:27, skrev Jude DaShiell:

 I forget if this is a .z8 game or .tads but I remember one of them
with
 the title "chicken vindalou" in which you prepared that dish.

 On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, dark wrote:


 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 22:07:56
 From: dark 
 Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
 To: blind-gamers@groups.io
 Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

 Not as yet.

 I believe Aprone is working on a restaurant management sim which
we
might
 see at some point, revelation involves lots of recipes some of
which
re
 cooking based, and as part of Parkboss you can setup snack stands,
but
 that is about it in the world of audiogames.

 There are however lots of muds and several browser games which
feature
 cooking, some of it fairly in depth cooking as an activity, though
none
 concentrate on cooking specifically.

 off the top of my head Kingdom of loathing and metroplexity both
have
 cooking and coctail crafting as major parts of their rp ethos,
while
the
 creature rpg puppet? nightmares lets you make recipes to feed to
your
 soul puppets and even has a major quest chain where you work for
a?
chef.

 Gates of survival has cooking as an activity, but the access on
that
one
 is a little iffy.

 Mud wise, many of the crafting and survival muds such as Clok and
lament
 have cooking, and I believe alteraeon is just introducing it too.

 Flexible survival also has cooking recipes as? parts of the
general
 crafting.

 i know these aren't exactly what your looking for but these are
thus
far
 the best examples of? games with cooking in that I can think of.

 hth.

 All the best,

 Dark.
 - Original Message - From: "Tyler Zahnke"
 
 To: 
 Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 12:35 AM
 Subject: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking



 ?In the mainstream video game world, there are games like Cooking
Mama
 ?and Burger Time. I was wondering if there were any audio-based
games
 ?with a food/cooking theme.




















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Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

2018-02-24 Thread Tyler Zahnke
I mean, even the Apex can play Z5 files, so why is it so hard to find
software that can play them?

On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:
> Most of them aren't playing on the original z-machine any longer.  You
> might be able to find one of them in Rick's Pawn Shop or that Pawn Shop
> in Detroit that's on TV or maybe the Smithsonian Museum by now.
>
> On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, Tyler Zahnke wrote:
>
>> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 07:46:27
>> From: Tyler Zahnke 
>> Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking
>>
>> Well, if I remember correctly, Zork was for the original Z machine,
>> and that's a game that's held up just as well as any 80s video game;
>> millions still play it.
>>
>> On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:
>>> z8 is the last so far of the z-machine formats the .z5 format was an
>>> earlier format.
>>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, Tyler Zahnke wrote:
>>>
>>>> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 07:39:55
>>>> From: Tyler Zahnke 
>>>> Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking
>>>>
>>>> Wait, I'm confused. Based on the numbers, Z8 sounds newer than Z5. Why
>>>> would it be harder to find software that's compatible with Z8 games
>>>> than it is to find software compatible with Z5 games?
>>>>
>>>> On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:
>>>>> z8 games can be played even on modern platforms.  You would probably
>>>>> need win-frotz to play them though.  For those using Linux, we have
>>>>> frotz and jzip available to us.  The mac platform might have a problem
>>>>> unless these packages are on darwin or fink or in the apple store, but
>>>>> iPhone users and iPad users won't have any problem since the frotz app
>>>>> is available in the app store and now you can use it to browse
>>>>> ifarchives for games.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, mattias wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 00:47:45
>>>>>> From: mattias 
>>>>>> Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>>>> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking
>>>>>>
>>>>>> z8? i think you cant play so old games on modern platforms
>>>>>> accessible?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> e.g here in sweden there is a old webpage with swedish text
>>>>>> adventures
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> i
>>>>>> think amiga and some more
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but no no you cant play it accessible
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Den 2018-02-24 kl. 06:27, skrev Jude DaShiell:
>>>>>>>  I forget if this is a .z8 game or .tads but I remember one of them
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>  the title "chicken vindalou" in which you prepared that dish.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, dark wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 22:07:56
>>>>>>>>  From: dark 
>>>>>>>>  Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>>>>>>  To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>>>>>>  Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Not as yet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I believe Aprone is working on a restaurant management sim which
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>  see at some point, revelation involves lots of recipes some of
>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>> re
>>>>>>>>  cooking based, and as part of Parkboss you can setup snack stands,
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>  that is about it in the world of audiogames.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  There are however lots of muds and several browser games which
>>>>>>>> feature
>>>>>>>>  cooking, some of it fairly in depth cooking as an activity, though
>>>>>>>> none
>>>>>>>>  concentrate on cooking specifically.
&g

Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

2018-02-24 Thread Jude DaShiell
Most of them aren't playing on the original z-machine any longer.  You 
might be able to find one of them in Rick's Pawn Shop or that Pawn Shop 
in Detroit that's on TV or maybe the Smithsonian Museum by now.


On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, Tyler Zahnke wrote:


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 07:46:27
From: Tyler Zahnke 
Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

Well, if I remember correctly, Zork was for the original Z machine,
and that's a game that's held up just as well as any 80s video game;
millions still play it.

On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:

z8 is the last so far of the z-machine formats the .z5 format was an
earlier format.
On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, Tyler Zahnke wrote:


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 07:39:55
From: Tyler Zahnke 
Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

Wait, I'm confused. Based on the numbers, Z8 sounds newer than Z5. Why
would it be harder to find software that's compatible with Z8 games
than it is to find software compatible with Z5 games?

On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:

z8 games can be played even on modern platforms.  You would probably
need win-frotz to play them though.  For those using Linux, we have
frotz and jzip available to us.  The mac platform might have a problem
unless these packages are on darwin or fink or in the apple store, but
iPhone users and iPad users won't have any problem since the frotz app
is available in the app store and now you can use it to browse
ifarchives for games.

On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, mattias wrote:


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 00:47:45
From: mattias 
Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

z8? i think you cant play so old games on modern platforms accessible?

e.g here in sweden there is a old webpage with swedish text adventures
for
i
think amiga and some more

but no no you cant play it accessible


Den 2018-02-24 kl. 06:27, skrev Jude DaShiell:

 I forget if this is a .z8 game or .tads but I remember one of them
with
 the title "chicken vindalou" in which you prepared that dish.

 On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, dark wrote:


 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 22:07:56
 From: dark 
 Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
 To: blind-gamers@groups.io
 Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

 Not as yet.

 I believe Aprone is working on a restaurant management sim which we
might
 see at some point, revelation involves lots of recipes some of which
re
 cooking based, and as part of Parkboss you can setup snack stands,
but
 that is about it in the world of audiogames.

 There are however lots of muds and several browser games which
feature
 cooking, some of it fairly in depth cooking as an activity, though
none
 concentrate on cooking specifically.

 off the top of my head Kingdom of loathing and metroplexity both
have
 cooking and coctail crafting as major parts of their rp ethos, while
the
 creature rpg puppet? nightmares lets you make recipes to feed to
your
 soul puppets and even has a major quest chain where you work for a?
chef.

 Gates of survival has cooking as an activity, but the access on that
one
 is a little iffy.

 Mud wise, many of the crafting and survival muds such as Clok and
lament
 have cooking, and I believe alteraeon is just introducing it too.

 Flexible survival also has cooking recipes as? parts of the general
 crafting.

 i know these aren't exactly what your looking for but these are thus
far
 the best examples of? games with cooking in that I can think of.

 hth.

 All the best,

 Dark.
 - Original Message - From: "Tyler Zahnke"
 
 To: 
 Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 12:35 AM
 Subject: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking



 ?In the mainstream video game world, there are games like Cooking
Mama
 ?and Burger Time. I was wondering if there were any audio-based
games
 ?with a food/cooking theme.




















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Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

2018-02-24 Thread Tyler Zahnke
Well, if I remember correctly, Zork was for the original Z machine,
and that's a game that's held up just as well as any 80s video game;
millions still play it.

On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:
> z8 is the last so far of the z-machine formats the .z5 format was an
> earlier format.
> On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, Tyler Zahnke wrote:
>
>> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 07:39:55
>> From: Tyler Zahnke 
>> Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking
>>
>> Wait, I'm confused. Based on the numbers, Z8 sounds newer than Z5. Why
>> would it be harder to find software that's compatible with Z8 games
>> than it is to find software compatible with Z5 games?
>>
>> On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:
>>> z8 games can be played even on modern platforms.  You would probably
>>> need win-frotz to play them though.  For those using Linux, we have
>>> frotz and jzip available to us.  The mac platform might have a problem
>>> unless these packages are on darwin or fink or in the apple store, but
>>> iPhone users and iPad users won't have any problem since the frotz app
>>> is available in the app store and now you can use it to browse
>>> ifarchives for games.
>>>
>>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, mattias wrote:
>>>
>>>> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 00:47:45
>>>> From: mattias 
>>>> Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking
>>>>
>>>> z8? i think you cant play so old games on modern platforms accessible?
>>>>
>>>> e.g here in sweden there is a old webpage with swedish text adventures
>>>> for
>>>> i
>>>> think amiga and some more
>>>>
>>>> but no no you cant play it accessible
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Den 2018-02-24 kl. 06:27, skrev Jude DaShiell:
>>>>>  I forget if this is a .z8 game or .tads but I remember one of them
>>>>> with
>>>>>  the title "chicken vindalou" in which you prepared that dish.
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, dark wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 22:07:56
>>>>>>  From: dark 
>>>>>>  Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>>>>  To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>>>>  Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Not as yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I believe Aprone is working on a restaurant management sim which we
>>>>>> might
>>>>>>  see at some point, revelation involves lots of recipes some of which
>>>>>> re
>>>>>>  cooking based, and as part of Parkboss you can setup snack stands,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>>  that is about it in the world of audiogames.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  There are however lots of muds and several browser games which
>>>>>> feature
>>>>>>  cooking, some of it fairly in depth cooking as an activity, though
>>>>>> none
>>>>>>  concentrate on cooking specifically.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  off the top of my head Kingdom of loathing and metroplexity both
>>>>>> have
>>>>>>  cooking and coctail crafting as major parts of their rp ethos, while
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>  creature rpg puppet? nightmares lets you make recipes to feed to
>>>>>> your
>>>>>>  soul puppets and even has a major quest chain where you work for a?
>>>>>> chef.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Gates of survival has cooking as an activity, but the access on that
>>>>>> one
>>>>>>  is a little iffy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Mud wise, many of the crafting and survival muds such as Clok and
>>>>>> lament
>>>>>>  have cooking, and I believe alteraeon is just introducing it too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Flexible survival also has cooking recipes as? parts of the general
>>>>>>  crafting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  i know these aren't exactly what your looking for but these are thus
>>>>>> far
>>>>>>  the best examples of? games with cooking in that I can think of.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  hth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  All the best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Dark.
>>>>>>  - Original Message - From: "Tyler Zahnke"
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  To: 
>>>>>>  Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 12:35 AM
>>>>>>  Subject: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  ?In the mainstream video game world, there are games like Cooking
>>>>>>> Mama
>>>>>>>  ?and Burger Time. I was wondering if there were any audio-based
>>>>>>> games
>>>>>>>  ?with a food/cooking theme.
>>>>>>>
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Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

2018-02-24 Thread Jude DaShiell
z8 is the last so far of the z-machine formats the .z5 format was an 
earlier format.

On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, Tyler Zahnke wrote:


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 07:39:55
From: Tyler Zahnke 
Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

Wait, I'm confused. Based on the numbers, Z8 sounds newer than Z5. Why
would it be harder to find software that's compatible with Z8 games
than it is to find software compatible with Z5 games?

On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:

z8 games can be played even on modern platforms.  You would probably
need win-frotz to play them though.  For those using Linux, we have
frotz and jzip available to us.  The mac platform might have a problem
unless these packages are on darwin or fink or in the apple store, but
iPhone users and iPad users won't have any problem since the frotz app
is available in the app store and now you can use it to browse
ifarchives for games.

On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, mattias wrote:


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 00:47:45
From: mattias 
Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

z8? i think you cant play so old games on modern platforms accessible?

e.g here in sweden there is a old webpage with swedish text adventures for
i
think amiga and some more

but no no you cant play it accessible


Den 2018-02-24 kl. 06:27, skrev Jude DaShiell:

 I forget if this is a .z8 game or .tads but I remember one of them with
 the title "chicken vindalou" in which you prepared that dish.

 On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, dark wrote:


 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 22:07:56
 From: dark 
 Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
 To: blind-gamers@groups.io
 Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

 Not as yet.

 I believe Aprone is working on a restaurant management sim which we
might
 see at some point, revelation involves lots of recipes some of which
re
 cooking based, and as part of Parkboss you can setup snack stands, but
 that is about it in the world of audiogames.

 There are however lots of muds and several browser games which feature
 cooking, some of it fairly in depth cooking as an activity, though
none
 concentrate on cooking specifically.

 off the top of my head Kingdom of loathing and metroplexity both have
 cooking and coctail crafting as major parts of their rp ethos, while
the
 creature rpg puppet? nightmares lets you make recipes to feed to your
 soul puppets and even has a major quest chain where you work for a?
chef.

 Gates of survival has cooking as an activity, but the access on that
one
 is a little iffy.

 Mud wise, many of the crafting and survival muds such as Clok and
lament
 have cooking, and I believe alteraeon is just introducing it too.

 Flexible survival also has cooking recipes as? parts of the general
 crafting.

 i know these aren't exactly what your looking for but these are thus
far
 the best examples of? games with cooking in that I can think of.

 hth.

 All the best,

 Dark.
 - Original Message - From: "Tyler Zahnke"
 
 To: 
 Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 12:35 AM
 Subject: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking



 ?In the mainstream video game world, there are games like Cooking
Mama
 ?and Burger Time. I was wondering if there were any audio-based games
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Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

2018-02-24 Thread Tyler Zahnke
Wait, I'm confused. Based on the numbers, Z8 sounds newer than Z5. Why
would it be harder to find software that's compatible with Z8 games
than it is to find software compatible with Z5 games?

On 2/24/18, Jude DaShiell  wrote:
> z8 games can be played even on modern platforms.  You would probably
> need win-frotz to play them though.  For those using Linux, we have
> frotz and jzip available to us.  The mac platform might have a problem
> unless these packages are on darwin or fink or in the apple store, but
> iPhone users and iPad users won't have any problem since the frotz app
> is available in the app store and now you can use it to browse
> ifarchives for games.
>
> On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, mattias wrote:
>
>> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 00:47:45
>> From: mattias 
>> Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking
>>
>> z8? i think you cant play so old games on modern platforms accessible?
>>
>> e.g here in sweden there is a old webpage with swedish text adventures for
>> i
>> think amiga and some more
>>
>> but no no you cant play it accessible
>>
>>
>> Den 2018-02-24 kl. 06:27, skrev Jude DaShiell:
>>>  I forget if this is a .z8 game or .tads but I remember one of them with
>>>  the title "chicken vindalou" in which you prepared that dish.
>>>
>>>  On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, dark wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 22:07:56
>>>>  From: dark 
>>>>  Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>>  To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>>>  Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking
>>>>
>>>>  Not as yet.
>>>>
>>>>  I believe Aprone is working on a restaurant management sim which we
>>>> might
>>>>  see at some point, revelation involves lots of recipes some of which
>>>> re
>>>>  cooking based, and as part of Parkboss you can setup snack stands, but
>>>>  that is about it in the world of audiogames.
>>>>
>>>>  There are however lots of muds and several browser games which feature
>>>>  cooking, some of it fairly in depth cooking as an activity, though
>>>> none
>>>>  concentrate on cooking specifically.
>>>>
>>>>  off the top of my head Kingdom of loathing and metroplexity both have
>>>>  cooking and coctail crafting as major parts of their rp ethos, while
>>>> the
>>>>  creature rpg puppet? nightmares lets you make recipes to feed to your
>>>>  soul puppets and even has a major quest chain where you work for a?
>>>> chef.
>>>>
>>>>  Gates of survival has cooking as an activity, but the access on that
>>>> one
>>>>  is a little iffy.
>>>>
>>>>  Mud wise, many of the crafting and survival muds such as Clok and
>>>> lament
>>>>  have cooking, and I believe alteraeon is just introducing it too.
>>>>
>>>>  Flexible survival also has cooking recipes as? parts of the general
>>>>  crafting.
>>>>
>>>>  i know these aren't exactly what your looking for but these are thus
>>>> far
>>>>  the best examples of? games with cooking in that I can think of.
>>>>
>>>>  hth.
>>>>
>>>>  All the best,
>>>>
>>>>  Dark.
>>>>  - Original Message - From: "Tyler Zahnke"
>>>>  
>>>>  To: 
>>>>  Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 12:35 AM
>>>>  Subject: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>  ?In the mainstream video game world, there are games like Cooking
>>>>> Mama
>>>>>  ?and Burger Time. I was wondering if there were any audio-based games
>>>>>  ?with a food/cooking theme.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

2018-02-24 Thread Jude DaShiell
z8 games can be played even on modern platforms.  You would probably 
need win-frotz to play them though.  For those using Linux, we have 
frotz and jzip available to us.  The mac platform might have a problem 
unless these packages are on darwin or fink or in the apple store, but 
iPhone users and iPad users won't have any problem since the frotz app 
is available in the app store and now you can use it to browse 
ifarchives for games.


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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 00:47:45
From: mattias 
Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

z8? i think you cant play so old games on modern platforms accessible?

e.g here in sweden there is a old webpage with swedish text adventures for i 
think amiga and some more


but no no you cant play it accessible


Den 2018-02-24 kl. 06:27, skrev Jude DaShiell:

 I forget if this is a .z8 game or .tads but I remember one of them with
 the title "chicken vindalou" in which you prepared that dish.

 On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, dark wrote:


 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 22:07:56
 From: dark 
 Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
 To: blind-gamers@groups.io
 Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

 Not as yet.

 I believe Aprone is working on a restaurant management sim which we might
 see at some point, revelation involves lots of recipes some of which re
 cooking based, and as part of Parkboss you can setup snack stands, but
 that is about it in the world of audiogames.

 There are however lots of muds and several browser games which feature
 cooking, some of it fairly in depth cooking as an activity, though none
 concentrate on cooking specifically.

 off the top of my head Kingdom of loathing and metroplexity both have
 cooking and coctail crafting as major parts of their rp ethos, while the
 creature rpg puppet? nightmares lets you make recipes to feed to your
 soul puppets and even has a major quest chain where you work for a? chef.

 Gates of survival has cooking as an activity, but the access on that one
 is a little iffy.

 Mud wise, many of the crafting and survival muds such as Clok and lament
 have cooking, and I believe alteraeon is just introducing it too.

 Flexible survival also has cooking recipes as? parts of the general
 crafting.

 i know these aren't exactly what your looking for but these are thus far
 the best examples of? games with cooking in that I can think of.

 hth.

 All the best,

 Dark.
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 Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 12:35 AM
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Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

2018-02-24 Thread dark
Actually interactive fiction interpreters tend to be very well maintained 
and exist for all modern platforms,  Macand Ios as well as Windows, so you 
should have no problem playing if games in formats like zcode and tads on a 
modern machine, actually there's a pretty cool Nvda addon that reads text 
output in many if interpreters very well that I tried recently.


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Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

2018-02-23 Thread mattias

z8? i think you cant play so old games on modern platforms accessible?

e.g here in sweden there is a old webpage with swedish text adventures 
for i think amiga and some more


but no no you cant play it accessible


Den 2018-02-24 kl. 06:27, skrev Jude DaShiell:
I forget if this is a .z8 game or .tads but I remember one of them 
with the title "chicken vindalou" in which you prepared that dish.


On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, dark wrote:


Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 22:07:56
From: dark 
Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

Not as yet.

I believe Aprone is working on a restaurant management sim which we 
might see at some point, revelation involves lots of recipes some of 
which re cooking based, and as part of Parkboss you can setup snack 
stands, but that is about it in the world of audiogames.


There are however lots of muds and several browser games which 
feature cooking, some of it fairly in depth cooking as an activity, 
though none concentrate on cooking specifically.


off the top of my head Kingdom of loathing and metroplexity both have 
cooking and coctail crafting as major parts of their rp ethos, while 
the creature rpg puppet  nightmares lets you make recipes to feed to 
your soul puppets and even has a major quest chain where you work for 
a  chef.


Gates of survival has cooking as an activity, but the access on that 
one is a little iffy.


Mud wise, many of the crafting and survival muds such as Clok and 
lament have cooking, and I believe alteraeon is just introducing it too.


Flexible survival also has cooking recipes as  parts of the general 
crafting.


i know these aren't exactly what your looking for but these are thus 
far the best examples of  games with cooking in that I can think of.


hth.

All the best,

Dark.
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Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

2018-02-23 Thread Jude DaShiell
I forget if this is a .z8 game or .tads but I remember one of them with 
the title "chicken vindalou" in which you prepared that dish.


On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, dark wrote:


Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 22:07:56
From: dark 
Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

Not as yet.

I believe Aprone is working on a restaurant management sim which we might see 
at some point, revelation involves lots of recipes some of which re cooking 
based, and as part of Parkboss you can  setup snack stands, but that is about 
it in the world of audiogames.


There are however lots of muds and several browser games which feature 
cooking, some of it fairly in depth cooking as an activity, though none 
concentrate on cooking specifically.


off the top of my head Kingdom of loathing and metroplexity both have cooking 
and coctail crafting as major parts of their rp ethos, while the creature rpg 
puppet  nightmares lets you make recipes to feed to your soul puppets and 
even has a major quest  chain where you work for a  chef.


Gates of survival has cooking as an activity, but the access on that one is a 
little iffy.


Mud wise, many of the crafting and survival muds such as Clok and lament have 
cooking, and I believe alteraeon is just introducing it too.


Flexible survival also has cooking recipes as  parts of the general crafting.

i know these aren't exactly what your looking for but these are thus far the 
best examples of  games with cooking in that I can think of.


hth.

All the best,

Dark.
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Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 12:35 AM
Subject: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking



 In the mainstream video game world, there are games like Cooking Mama
 and Burger Time. I was wondering if there were any audio-based games
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Re: [blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

2018-02-23 Thread dark

Not as yet.

I believe Aprone is working on a restaurant management sim which we might 
see at some point, revelation involves lots of recipes some of which re 
cooking based, and as part of Parkboss you can  setup snack stands, but 
that is about it in the world of audiogames.


There are however lots of muds and several browser games which feature 
cooking, some of it fairly in depth cooking as an activity, though none 
concentrate on cooking specifically.


off the top of my head Kingdom of loathing and metroplexity both have 
cooking and coctail crafting as major parts of their rp ethos, while the 
creature rpg puppet  nightmares lets you make recipes to feed to your soul 
puppets and even has a major quest  chain where you work for a  chef.


Gates of survival has cooking as an activity, but the access on that one is 
a little iffy.


Mud wise, many of the crafting and survival muds such as Clok and lament 
have cooking, and I believe alteraeon is just introducing it too.


Flexible survival also has cooking recipes as  parts of the general 
crafting.


i know these aren't exactly what your looking for but these are thus far the 
best examples of  games with cooking in that I can think of.


hth.

All the best,

Dark.
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[blind-gamers] games about food and cooking

2018-02-23 Thread Tyler Zahnke
In the mainstream video game world, there are games like Cooking Mama
and Burger Time. I was wondering if there were any audio-based games
with a food/cooking theme.

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