Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-20 Thread Bob Kennedy
. - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people I tried to take a shop class through the local community college. After the first night, I got a call from

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-20 Thread RJ
Your comments remind me the time I cut off or nearly cut off the side of my thumb while splitting wood. The doctor was upset that I would be using a ax. He went on to say that a blind person shouldn't be doing these things. My reply was, That I bet he seen more sighted people who cut off their

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-20 Thread RJ
Now you know why I don't go to Sears, unless it is a must. smile - Original Message - From: Bob Kennedy To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people I understand the problem with Sears and I

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-20 Thread rs_denis
- From: Dan Rossi To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people I tried to take a shop class through the local community college. After the first night, I got a call from the school saying that I couldn't take

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-20 Thread Shawn Keen
, 2008 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people I have kept some of these responses to myself till now figuring there would be more than enough of them. Well, that has been true in spite of which: When I was younger, it was much more common for servers and sales persons to ask

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-19 Thread Jewel
One of our department stores had a very good special on 20 inch chainsaws recently, and being a sucker for chainsaws, I went along to buy one. The nasty little jumped-up salesman wouldn't sell me one unless I was prepared to sign a waiver to the effect that if injured, I would not sue them. I

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-19 Thread Tom Fowle
Jewel, At least in this country, such wavers have no true legal force. As past commodore of a sailing club for PWDs we are told to get such a waver for everyone who sails with us, but in the same breath that in a case of real injury and legal action the waver is of no use. One truly wonders both

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-19 Thread Bob Kennedy
people out there but it's always covered up by the ignorant ones... - Original Message - From: Jewel To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people One of our department stores had a very good

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-19 Thread Larry Stansifer
. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:37 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people There is no limit to ignorance. I was at the woodworking show a few

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-19 Thread RJ
it. There are good people out there but it's always covered up by the ignorant ones... - Original Message - From: Jewel To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people One of our department stores had

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-19 Thread Tom Fowle
Actually I've found the sailing community is pretty darned accepting too I've walked the docks of a 750 slip marine with no railings of course, anchors sticking out, dock lines drapped about with great abandon, and nobody ever panicked, not even the security people. So it ain't all stupidity. Tom

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-19 Thread Larry Stansifer
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people I can see the reasoning behind him not wanting to sell you a blade. It wasn't because you were blind, but he wasn't sure of the cash you were trying to hand him. For at a round that time a blind counterfeiter carved out

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-19 Thread Tom Hodges
PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people Due to things like that I used to purposely mess with car rental folks. I had a small trucking company. So I had a coverage cert for temporary use of any vehicle by named persons. I was one of the named

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-19 Thread Dale Leavens
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people There is no limit to ignorance. I was at the woodworking show a few years back, a huge showing of all sorts of dangerous tools for working with wood. One of the guys selling Forrest Saw blades

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-19 Thread Dan Rossi
I tried to take a shop class through the local community college. After the first night, I got a call from the school saying that I couldn't take the class. Both Teresa and I were signed up for three classes each, several hundred bucks worth of classes. I said that if I couldn't take shop

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-19 Thread Tom Hodges
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people I guess I have had pretty good luck. The only woodworking show I have been to so far was in London, I went with my son. There was a chap demonstrating and selling the Tormek wet slow speed sharpening system which I

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-19 Thread Bob Kennedy
was. It was a great group to be around, even Geoff Bodine who went on to NASCAR was alright. - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 7:46 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people It's my story and I'm

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-19 Thread Bob Kennedy
I understand the problem with Sears and I work for them... - Original Message - From: RJ To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people I can see the reasoning behind him not wanting to sell you

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-19 Thread Dale Leavens
a tutorial, the subject comes up fairly frequently. Soon though the process will become obsolete. - Original Message - From: Tom Hodges To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:26 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people Dale

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-19 Thread Bob Kennedy
See? Should have gone to Sears. I'm sure they'd treat you like someone that is disabled... - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:21 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people Damn

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-19 Thread Tom Hodges
PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people Tom, I don't know that I have a particularly good way but I have soldered a lot of joints over the years. It seems to me I have written extensively on the subject a couple of years ago. I wonder

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-19 Thread Dan Rossi
There is already something new and improved in place of sweating Copper. When they installed my new furnace, I kept hearing a strange sound from the basement, and not smelling hot solder and Copper. I asked, and they showed me their new gadget. All the fittings are crimped on with a

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-19 Thread Bob Kennedy
, November 19, 2008 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people I guess I have had pretty good luck. The only woodworking show I have been to so far was in London, I went with my son. There was a chap demonstrating and selling the Tormek wet slow speed sharpening system which I was very

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-19 Thread Bob Kennedy
Message - From: Tom Fowle To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people Actually I've found the sailing community is pretty darned accepting too I've walked the docks of a 750 slip marine with no railings

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-19 Thread Dale Leavens
to extend a supply line. So far I haven't used the stuff but I expect I soon will. - Original Message - From: Tom Hodges To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:45 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people Dale, Why would

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-19 Thread Dale Leavens
- From: Dan Rossi To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people I tried to take a shop class through the local community college. After the first night, I got a call from the school saying that I couldn't take

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-19 Thread Tom Vos
: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:59 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people PEX! Cross linked polyethylene. There are several joining systems for it now none of which require a torch. It has superior wear characteristics and is flexible enough to pull

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-19 Thread Spiro
that document wouldn't stand in court. On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Jewel wrote: One of our department stores had a very good special on 20 inch chainsaws recently, and being a sucker for chainsaws, I went along to buy one. The nasty little jumped-up salesman wouldn't sell me one unless I was

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-19 Thread Spiro
, November 19, 2008 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people One of our department stores had a very good special on 20 inch chainsaws recently, and being a sucker for chainsaws, I went along to buy one. The nasty little jumped-up salesman wouldn't sell me one unless I

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-19 Thread Spiro
. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:37 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people There is no limit to ignorance. I was at the woodworking

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-18 Thread Spiro
I had a guy hesitate to sell me jigsaw blades when i didn't buy his stuff that a blind person must make jigs to not get hurt. So I acted bedazzled and asked with what one makes these jigs and he said with a router or a jigsaw So I agreed and he sold me the blades. Personally, I get tired of

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-18 Thread Spiro
Due to things like that I used to purposely mess with car rental folks. I had a small trucking company. So I had a coverage cert for temporary use of any vehicle by named persons. I was one of the named persons. I had a perfect record, and they never asked for sight info as i didn't list

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-17 Thread Scott Howell
Yeah, my wife and I have been in these situations and she says with a rather snide tone, don't ask me, I'm not buy ing the stuff. Pretty much telling the person hey idiot, he's asking the questions not me, so pay attention. On Nov 17, 2008, at 1:55 AM, Robert Riddle wrote: Oh yeah, I get

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-17 Thread Bob Kennedy
And she carries a gun so the point is very clear... - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 6:00 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people Carol's signature response is Did I ask you anything

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-17 Thread Larry Stansifer
] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 3:20 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people Yeah, my wife and I have been in these situations and she says with a rather snide tone, don't ask me, I'm not buy ing the stuff. Pretty much

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-17 Thread Bob Kennedy
. - Original Message - From: Robert Riddle To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 1:55 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people Oh yeah, I get things like that all the time. Try this. This spring we went to our local hardware store. I

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-17 Thread Betsy Whitney
I lived and shopped in this town for nine years before my now husband arrived. All of a sudden the clerks in the stores started talking to him. I would hand them my credit card with my name on it which is Elizabeth, not easy to confuse with a male, and they would try to hand him the slip to

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-17 Thread David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 7:06 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people I lived and shopped in this town for nine years before my now husband arrived. All of a sudden the clerks in the stores started talking to him. I would hand them my credit card with my name on it which

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-17 Thread Lee A. Stone
Whitney [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 7:06 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people I lived and shopped in this town for nine years before my now husband arrived. All of a sudden the clerks in the stores started talking

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-17 Thread David Ferrin
of thought. - Original Message - From: Lee A. Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people David, If I may. only one store that I know has actual training to work with folks with all

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-17 Thread Lenny McHugh
, November 17, 2008 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people David, If I may. only one store that I know has actual training to work with folks with all sorts of disabilities and that is Home Depot we know the woman who help write the training manuel. So all of us in our own way

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-17 Thread Lee A. Stone
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people David, If I may. only one store that I know has actual training to work with folks with all sorts of disabilities and that is Home Depot we know

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-17 Thread Larry Stansifer
by the time she got done with him. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 8:32 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people Lee, Interesting, maybe she

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-17 Thread Rob Monitor
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people Lee, Interesting, maybe she wrote a great set of rules too bad that the employees don't read them. Although they are very helpful many of them try to pet or talk

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-17 Thread Scott Howell
. Although they are very helpful many of them try to pet or talk to my guide dog. - Original Message - From: Lee A. Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people David

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-17 Thread Gary Hale
I've noticed that when most people see me walking with the cane, they tend to recognize it for what it is. Often, they don't recognize or understand the cane's significance when they find me standing with it. However, there's no excuse for the way some of you were treated when the person knew

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-17 Thread Bill Stephan
, when they're worrying about if the blind guy's gonna hurt himself. Bill Stephan, Kansas City MO Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (816)803-2469 -original message- Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people From: Scott Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11/17/2008 13:25 That must be why I've

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-17 Thread Bill Stephan
Bill Stephan, Kansas City MO Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (816)803-2469 -original message- Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people From: Scott Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11/17/2008 13:25 That must be why I've generally had good luck with Home Depot and actually Walmart

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-17 Thread Bob Kennedy
of action, and act like a man of thought. - Original Message - From: Lee A. Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people David, If I may. only one store that I know has actual

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-17 Thread Bob Kennedy
Doesn't that just do your heart good to be there though? It's like Yeah what she said! - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 10:47 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people I actually had

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-17 Thread Larry Stansifer
and laughed while Carol chewed hin a new one. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 5:42 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people Doesn't that just

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dealing with people

2008-11-16 Thread Robert Riddle
Oh yeah, I get things like that all the time. Try this. This spring we went to our local hardware store. I was looking to buy some nails and wire cutters. The sales clerk insisted on talking to my partner rather than to me. Like What sort of nails is he looking for? I was like, I'm standing